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Post by iknownuthing on Oct 9, 2017 7:52:05 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Oct 9, 2017 15:40:32 GMT -6
Failing teachers spearheaded the suit. They complain about over crowded classrooms and then this. Go figure. I wonder how far this would go if the charter school teachers were in the union, my guess is then charters would be the best thing since sliced bread.
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Post by Southplaq on Oct 14, 2017 20:46:27 GMT -6
Failing teachers spearheaded the suit. They complain about over crowded classrooms and then this. Go figure. I wonder how far this would go if the charter school teachers were in the union, my guess is then charters would be the best thing since sliced bread. Yep
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Post by brprepfan on Oct 17, 2017 21:00:15 GMT -6
If you think the teachers are the problem at failing schools, my guess is that you have never set foot in a failing school.
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Post by iknownuthing on Oct 18, 2017 8:23:27 GMT -6
If you think the teachers are the problem at failing schools, my guess is that you have never set foot in a failing school. I would say, it is a select group of teachers who are the problem. Those most interested in the check they get and their retirement than in actual teaching. I have spoken to many teachers, family members included and they all have the same opinion. My sister taught for almost 30 years, honors courses, and she had enough of the "stupidity" of the administration and what is being forced on them in the name of change or the name of success. In many schools the problem is the administration, in others it is the home office. Mostly though the problem begins in the home. Yet we see groups trying to force certain schools to remain open, years after they should have been shuttered due to failure. This brings back round to failed schools with unfortunate children being baby sat instead of taught. Parents who care and want to make a difference now look to charter schools, private schools if they can afford it or to home schooling. These take those who would be successful out of the system enhancing the spiral towards failure, not only for the school but for the lives of the children. So when, I see people defending a failed school, I automatically assume that they care more about a tradition or the teachers pay then they do the kids. Shouldn't it be that the kids are the priority and not just useless s for political gain?
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Post by btown on Oct 18, 2017 9:07:03 GMT -6
Failing school issues start with no discipline or lack of discipline in the school. Someone name me a school with great discipline that is also a failing school.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2017 9:28:34 GMT -6
Southplaq - YOU ARE AN do you know what it takes to be a teacher in public schools in Louisiana today. You spend half of your time filling out paperwork on your computer. If they would let you teach it would be better for the students. and iknownuthing you do know nothing if you think we teach just for the check you are also an .
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Post by iknownuthing on Oct 18, 2017 9:57:51 GMT -6
Southplaq - YOU ARE AN do you know what it takes to be a teacher in public schools in Louisiana today. You spend half of your time filling out paperwork on your computer. If they would let you teach it would be better for the students. and iknownuthing you do know nothing if you think we teach just for the check you are also an . We got on that nerve. anyway, name calling only proves you are losing the argument. We never said all teachers teach for the money, just some. But I personally know of teachers who put their personal income level above all else. You can also tell the ones that do not hold the pay check above the students mentality, they are the ones who leave the public system for a lower paying job in the private school systems. These are the really good teachers who value discipline and education above a guaranteed paycheck with retirement. They will tell you if you ask them, how bad many of the public school teachers have become and how the good ones are pushed down because they do not tow the line or resist useless ic change.
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Post by iknownuthing on Oct 18, 2017 10:05:29 GMT -6
Teacher base pay in Louisiana starts at around $49K. That is greater than the starting salary of an Accountant in Louisiana, which runs around $44k and more than the median salary for a welder of $43k. Yes, many teachers take the job because it pays well.
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Post by btown on Oct 18, 2017 10:27:29 GMT -6
I am married to a teacher that has been the public school system for 25 years. She does not spend half a day on the computer filling out paper work. The teacher that is taking time away from teaching to do paper work on the computer is the reason that school is failing. My wife is at school on the weekend doing those duties. She teaches because she loves and she has been teaching at the same successful school for 25 years because her principle has her back and has outstanding discipline in the school. You can cut it, slice it anyway you want the only way a school is successful is if it has discipline and that is the only schools that good teachers want to teach in.
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Post by wtiger on Oct 19, 2017 14:11:02 GMT -6
Teacher base pay in Louisiana starts at around $49K. That is greater than the starting salary of an Accountant in Louisiana, which runs around $44k and more than the median salary for a welder of $43k. Yes, many teachers take the job because it pays well. What parish is that? I know multiple parishes that start well below 40. Catahoula starts at like $28k. Rapides is $39k. Orleans parish was below 40 but they recently got a pay raise I believe. Most parish websites have a salary schedule.
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Post by brprepfan on Oct 20, 2017 20:51:54 GMT -6
I started teaching in 2003 and made $29,500 a year. The pay has increased since then. The average starting pay in the state of Louisiana for a teacher is around $40,000. After about 15 years you may average $49,000 without coaching and without an advanced degree. I live in Baton Rouge and my peers that have college degrees with 15 years in the workforce are not making anywhere near $49,000 a year. Most are making over $100,000 a year. If an accountant has 15 years experience there is not a chance they are making $49,000 a year. They would make that in 5 months. A principal of a high school will make far less than the average worker at Exxon. (an operator without a degree will make tens of thousands more than a principal, much less a teacher)
Also I am not complaining about pay. I enjoy teaching and I enjoy the lifestyle it provides me. I just wanted to clarify misconceptions.
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Post by dogwalk on Oct 21, 2017 0:09:29 GMT -6
I'd like to know (at a failing school) the precentages of kids who come from a single parent house hold, specifically no father. I know this isn't the only factor, but in my opinion it's a big one. I've always been a believer of if we want to fix the school system...our families have to be fixed first and foremost. To me the single most important factor of student achievement is parental involvement.
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