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Post by gridiron on Dec 11, 2018 8:00:17 GMT -6
Some truth to the e remarks the rest is ridiculous ranting from a hater. Name your school and we will probably understand why.
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Post by Seabiscuit on Dec 11, 2018 15:31:39 GMT -6
know speaking of west Ouachita I think its awesome that these two will finally play against each other. Might not mean nothing at the moment but I think eventually it will. I see this becoming a HUGE rivalry if West Ouachita can get that program on its feet. just saying or am I wrong??
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2018 15:36:58 GMT -6
know speaking of west Ouachita I think its awesome that these two will finally play against each other. Might not mean nothing at the moment but I think eventually it will. I see this becoming a HUGE rivalry if West Ouachita can get that program on its feet. just saying or am I wrong?? First WO and Middleton have to commit to the program and the community. Then he needs to sell to his middle schools that leaving towards WM is not a guarantee anymore for a title. That the seasons of change is upon us and we can build our own program. You cant lose your starting center to WM and other players. If Middleton chooses to commit his future to that program the sky can be the limit. He has the chance now more than ever to do so.
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Post by coolaroola on Dec 11, 2018 15:53:52 GMT -6
You cant lose your starting center to WM.
Wrong.... again. The center did not start at WO. And no RB has left Ouachita for WM. Once again, facts disrupt your agenda, but please carry on....I need entertainment
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Post by Seabiscuit on Dec 11, 2018 15:55:41 GMT -6
I mean I always liked WM football but to see these two clash kinda just feels right to me. I mean what 15 miles apart and never played each other in football. to me this can and prolly will be THE Game of the year eventually for west Monroe if WO can somehow get a Win within 3 years and I think this game will be another WM and Neville like rivalry. could be wrong but just being so close and sharing the same side and both how they came just a lot of similarities to me just one has football program and money and other don't have all the boosters money but baseball program... but your right WO is getting better still has a ways to go though, but can be done just need a good coach I don't know if they got that or not, but the athletes are there just not the right atmosphere at WO........... yet, but good coach a few big wins get in playoffs and make runs consistently and then they're off.
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Post by gridiron on Dec 11, 2018 15:55:54 GMT -6
I hope WO does come on and all the power is on the west side of the river. That would be awesome! I would pay to see them beat Neville. Don't think it's going to happen.
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Post by tigerfan87 on Dec 11, 2018 15:56:17 GMT -6
know speaking of west Ouachita I think its awesome that these two will finally play against each other. Might not mean nothing at the moment but I think eventually it will. I see this becoming a HUGE rivalry if West Ouachita can get that program on its feet. just saying or am I wrong?? First WO and Middleton have to commit to the program and the community. Then he needs to sell to his middle schools that leaving towards WM is not a guarantee anymore for a title. That the seasons of change is upon us and we can build our own program. You cant lose your starting center to WM and other players. If Middleton chooses to commit his future to that program the sky can be the limit. He has the chance now more than ever to do so. I do think they can definitely make strides and get a little better but I don’t see any way west ouachita is ever even a district contender. They just don’t have the talent, heck I don’t think they have the physical talent to win the local 3-A district and I don’t know if they have ever fielded a team that could win 1-a. Even if the couple of kids who transfer out of their every year or so stayed I don’t think it would be close to enough.
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Post by Seabiscuit on Dec 11, 2018 15:58:34 GMT -6
but I could be wrong just know there is a lot of back and forth with these two schools well when I was growing up there was. they couldn't stand each other and about everytime I talked to someone from WO or WM they was talking about how much they hate each other. then came football talk about if they played they would just try to knock each other heads off... which to me is something I like so if its still like that today, then I might have to drive over and watch this feud. lol
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Post by tigerfan87 on Dec 11, 2018 15:58:50 GMT -6
I mean I always liked WM football but to see these two clash kinda just feels right to me. I mean what 15 miles apart and never played each other in football. to me this can and prolly will be THE Game of the year eventually for west Monroe if WO can somehow get a Win within 3 years and I think this game will be another WM and Neville like rivalry. could be wrong but just being so close and sharing the same side and both how they came just a lot of similarities to me just one has football program and money and other don't have all the boosters money but baseball program... but your right WO is getting better still has a ways to go though, but can be done just need a good coach I don't know if they got that or not, but the athletes are there just not the right atmosphere at WO........... yet, but good coach a few big wins get in playoffs and make runs consistently and then they're off. Bud I really don’t think the athletes are there I think contending in basketball or football is a pipe dream at west ouachita. I have nothing against the chiefs but there is no chance they get a win anytime in the near future in a series with WM. I don’t see them playing within 35 points in the next decade no matter the coach
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Post by Seabiscuit on Dec 11, 2018 16:06:14 GMT -6
I mean I always liked WM football but to see these two clash kinda just feels right to me. I mean what 15 miles apart and never played each other in football. to me this can and prolly will be THE Game of the year eventually for west Monroe if WO can somehow get a Win within 3 years and I think this game will be another WM and Neville like rivalry. could be wrong but just being so close and sharing the same side and both how they came just a lot of similarities to me just one has football program and money and other don't have all the boosters money but baseball program... but your right WO is getting better still has a ways to go though, but can be done just need a good coach I don't know if they got that or not, but the athletes are there just not the right atmosphere at WO........... yet, but good coach a few big wins get in playoffs and make runs consistently and then they're off. Bud I really don’t think the the athletes are there I think competitions in basketball or football is s pipe dream at west ouachita. I have nothing against the chiefs but their is no chance they get a win anytime in the near future in a series with WM oh I don't think theyre better, but sometimes when you really hate a school you can do dumb things like upset teams, and cocky teams Like WM can easily overlook as well, like we did with DC when I was a freshman completely over looked that school thought it was the same guys from Jr high... wrong lol but West Ouachita does have somewhat of talent well raw talent. change the atmosphere of that school to football program and actually spent money on it. put money WO will be making runs in the playing offs no state titles for a while but could easily start something there. decent school perfect spot to expand as much as they want. nothing is holding them back besides themselves. I mean lets be real WM used to be horrible now look where they are. and that wasn't that long ago either where they flipped the script, so all I'm saying is that if WM can do it so can WO. now will they I don't know but it can be done.
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Post by gridiron on Dec 11, 2018 16:32:12 GMT -6
I'm not saying your wrong about the animosity between the two schools, it's just the first I've heard of it. I know a couple of their coaches and have never heard any remarks but maybe your right. Hate to hear it though.
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Post by tigerfan87 on Dec 11, 2018 16:32:32 GMT -6
Bud I really don’t think the the athletes are there I think competitions in basketball or football is s pipe dream at west ouachita. I have nothing against the chiefs but their is no chance they get a win anytime in the near future in a series with WM oh I don't think theyre better, but sometimes when you really hate a school you can do dumb things like upset teams, and cocky teams Like WM can easily overlook as well, like we did with DC when I was a freshman completely over looked that school thought it was the same guys from Jr high... wrong lol but West Ouachita does have somewhat of talent well raw talent. change the atmosphere of that school to football program and actually spent money on it. put money WO will be making runs in the playing offs no state titles for a while but could easily start something there. decent school perfect spot to expand as much as they want. nothing is holding them back besides themselves. I mean lets be real WM used to be horrible now look where they are. and that wasn't that long ago either where they flipped the script, so all I'm saying is that if WM can do it so can WO. now will they I don't know but it can be done. I agree that familiarity can lead to weird upsets. And west ouachita does have a lot of money and resources at their disposal but i don’t think they have near the talent pool that west monroe had to tap into when shows turned them around. But ya never know you could be on to something that area is growing
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Post by Seabiscuit on Dec 11, 2018 16:48:31 GMT -6
oh I don't think theyre better, but sometimes when you really hate a school you can do dumb things like upset teams, and cocky teams Like WM can easily overlook as well, like we did with DC when I was a freshman completely over looked that school thought it was the same guys from Jr high... wrong lol but West Ouachita does have somewhat of talent well raw talent. change the atmosphere of that school to football program and actually spent money on it. put money WO will be making runs in the playing offs no state titles for a while but could easily start something there. decent school perfect spot to expand as much as they want. nothing is holding them back besides themselves. I mean lets be real WM used to be horrible now look where they are. and that wasn't that long ago either where they flipped the script, so all I'm saying is that if WM can do it so can WO. now will they I don't know but it can be done. I agree that familiarity can lead to weird upsets. And west ouachita does have a lot of money and resources at their disposal but i don’t think they have near the talent pool that west monroe had to tap into when shows turned them around. But ya never know you could be on to something that area is growing I mean it will take a while for it to happen, but if they go all out and actually spend money on the football program instead of band and all that, wouldn't surprise me one bit if Wo turns it around and becomes competitive. But there has to be some things that fall into place for that to happen. But it is there just needs boosters and coaching the community is already behind the school, so you already have loyal fans so imagine what that place will be like if they start winning and have a football program.....
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Post by iamray on Dec 11, 2018 17:29:03 GMT -6
Logic said he didn't Cate about the no-call but if his son had worked so hard for years to be in a position to win a title he would have cared a lot. Actually, you know nothing about me, and vice-versa. I dont teach my kids to rely on others to finish a job. Finish it yourself. Also, life isnt fair. Never will be They had a chance to ice the game after that incredible run by Wright. They didnt. They had a chance to score again and even just tie it up with 2 minutes left. They didnt. Counting on others to come through intstead of yourself is not what i wish to instill and that is how i think. Ive seen enough bad calls, erroneous no calls in every sport, and at every level of play to come up with this philosophical approach. It is insane to believe you will get every call or eveey ref crew will see every call. Living vicariously is a dangerous approach. The playcall was beautiful. It was the perfect call and no one was in position to make that tackle. The linebacker and DB both overran the play and were not in position. The pulling guard wss in front of thr linebacker as he overran the play to his left. The db overran to the left and was not in position. Had just one been sitting therr waiting to tackle the runner and was shoved or pushed from behind id be as upset as you. That isnt what happened. "They had a chance to ice the game after that incredible run by Wright. They didnt. They had a chance to score again and even just tie it up with 2 minutes left." END. OF. DISCUSSION.
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Post by gridiron on Dec 11, 2018 18:25:11 GMT -6
Wohhh Iamray said end of discussion so I guess that's it. Shut this thread down!
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Post by movethechains on Dec 11, 2018 20:15:12 GMT -6
As close as that game was, does anyone really believe either one is THAT much better than the other? If they played first one to 50, I think the loser would have 45. And there would be complaining about the play that got the winning team the 50, lol. They are BOTH great programs.
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Post by snackcake on Dec 11, 2018 22:11:12 GMT -6
Wohhh Iamray said end of discussion so I guess that's it. Shut this thread down! Lol! Let that happen to Neville and Brenda Shelling would be calling for the impeachment of Eddie Bonine!
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Post by sportsjunki10 on Dec 12, 2018 14:03:21 GMT -6
Not sure if it would be recruiting or parents who want their child to attend a school that is a B school, that has great facilities, that has great football tradition.
On that note WM needs parents to choose WM that has children that can play rb with power and speed, tall long receiver who can stretch the field, play making receiver, a couple DT and LB. maybe the underclassmen already there can fill those shoes.
Also need an OC who isn’t afraid to take a shot. At the end of a game you have to get creative and gamble with a pass play or something other than run run run up the middle. Close out the game with the ball.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2018 14:37:37 GMT -6
Not sure if it would be recruiting or parents who want their child to attend a school that is a B school, that has great facilities, that has great football tradition. On that note WM needs parents to choose WM that has children that can play rb with power and speed, tall long receiver who can stretch the field, play making receiver, a couple DT and LB. maybe the underclassmen already there can fill those shoes. Also need an OC who isn’t afraid to take a shot. At the end of a game you have to get creative and gamble with a pass play or something other than run run run up the middle. Close out the game with the ball. The running back role has been solidified with the kid from Ouachita. If it is true. Im not sure if it Lewis or Richard or a freshman moving in to be a sopre. There arent many up and coming receiving prospects in the area. Linebacker is Ouachitas Glass and nevilles #28. Wossman will be off limits now with Dean. Sterlington has very little major talent anywhere. Monroe/WM is bare on talent and even the local sports anchor mentioned it on his telecast. Neville has the big talent coming up on that freshman team with the QB, DT, and OT. Lack depth but talent is very good. They arent going anywhere. Oak Grove has the big boys but their moving in would raise eyebrows like no time in WM history. Bastrop always is good for a couple of transfers. Id watch Bastrop closely with the Coach being let go. Poach season will be upon us.
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Post by proudrebfan on Dec 12, 2018 21:34:24 GMT -6
Not sure if it would be recruiting or parents who want their child to attend a school that is a B school, that has great facilities, that has great football tradition. On that note WM needs parents to choose WM that has children that can play rb with power and speed, tall long receiver who can stretch the field, play making receiver, a couple DT and LB. maybe the underclassmen already there can fill those shoes. Also need an OC who isn’t afraid to take a shot. At the end of a game you have to get creative and gamble with a pass play or something other than run run run up the middle. Close out the game with the ball. The running back role has been solidified with the kid from Ouachita. If it is true. Im not sure if it Lewis or Richard or a freshman moving in to be a sopre. There arent many up and coming receiving prospects in the area. Linebacker is Ouachitas Glass and nevilles #28. Wossman will be off limits now with Dean. Sterlington has very little major talent anywhere. Monroe/WM is bare on talent and even the local sports anchor mentioned it on his telecast. Neville has the big talent coming up on that freshman team with the QB, DT, and OT. Lack depth but talent is very good. They arent going anywhere. Oak Grove has the big boys but their moving in would raise eyebrows like no time in WM history. Bastrop always is good for a couple of transfers. Id watch Bastrop closely with the Coach being let go. Poach season will be upon us. The Neville freshman team, the one the bare on talent West Monroe team beat. There is some serious talent on that WM freshman team. They are being compared to the group that are graduating this year.
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Post by gamewatcher on Dec 12, 2018 21:57:41 GMT -6
those kid s from wm are 1-1/2 yrs older than the kids they play. takes a few years to catch up at that age. hence, nobody hardly ever beats them. older, depth and experience.
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Post by WM on Dec 13, 2018 5:46:37 GMT -6
those kid s from wm are 1-1/2 yrs older than the kids they play. Yep, we are so good at this we've figured out away to hold our kids back an additional 1/2 year.
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Post by footballyapper on Dec 13, 2018 23:15:38 GMT -6
Offensive Coordinator or Consultant (valued consultant)
Systems attract players Instead of recruiting players, recruit some coaching talent to bring flavor and explosiveness to that offense... With the "athletes" in and around West Monroe the right system will be attractive to players. Ask Nick Saban... Kids don't care about prestige its about flash. We've seen the Rebels win win win and then "puuuhtut".
Suggestion... hire a guy who runs an aggressive offense In my opinion it wasn't players that lost that game not even coaching, it was the scheme IT WAS NOT AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH! Should have won by 20.
There are a few guys at a few schools who might be looked down on because of where they are but they may bring what's needed to carry WM over the hump. Here's where they should start Bastrop Neville Wossman Ferriday.
Instead of recruiting these school's players go after their coaches. Check the numbers I think these school's QBs threw for a lot of yard with less time in the pocket. Runningbacks ran for a lot yards with less up front than WM.
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Post by buttonwillow on Dec 14, 2018 7:29:00 GMT -6
Just imagine what WM could have done and would be with an OC like Feaster!!!!
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Post by sportsjunki10 on Dec 14, 2018 10:34:12 GMT -6
Footballyaper you are right on target. WM had a lot of talent the last three years. A play here or there would make them back to back champions. Zachary beat them by 2 and 3 and in those games a lot of luck was on the side of Zachary. Snap over the punters head two years ago, no call this year. However if they had a destrehan style of offense they win back to back championships and dominate those games. Get creative, spread the call around. On that second to last drive 3rd and five throw a play action out there or swing pass to the back. The guy might have scored.
We can’t say state champions but we can say class 5A champions.
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