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Post by roopride on Dec 14, 2018 14:42:44 GMT -6
The "Magnet" program for Kentwood is dance. Last I checked there was about 5 students that was out of zone for the dance "Magnet" I believe Amite "Magnet" is nursing but it too is heavily populated with students who live in Amites attendance zone. These two have homegrown talent ONLY. Well, except for the quarterback who transferred from Hammond and became the MVP of the state championship game... Not saying Amite recruited him or did anything wrong at all. Just shows that people find a way to get their kids into whatever school they want them in, public or private, or excuse me "select or non-select". [br He played with the same group of seniors in Amite lil league football, moved to Hammond in middle school then was moved back in 2017. I'm not saying kids dont come to our schools from but we dont have to recruit student-athletes from other programs. It is easy to look from the outside in and wanna be apart of a Kentwood, Amite, or any program with multiple championships
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Dec 14, 2018 15:06:32 GMT -6
Ok but their still technically Magnet. My point was that Magnet schools aren't automatically Select as the previous poster said. According to the handbook their suppose to be but that part seems to get overlooked as long as said school doesn't have policies to restrict enrollment. Most people on here don't seem to understand what makes a school get classified as Select. Attendance zones only affects Dual-enrollment schools, which have some Select admission students and even that must be at least 25% of their enrollment to get classified as Select. I see, why not lump all non traditional school into Select . Sounds good. Lets do that.
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Post by warhorsepride on Dec 14, 2018 16:18:10 GMT -6
I see, why not lump all non traditional school into Select . Sounds good. Lets do that. I've explained this on here before. Rapides is Open Enrollment, but each school including Peabody all still have zones AND the school board enforces its own policy on athletic transfers that require you to sit if a transfer is deemed for athletic reasons. Its why you don't hear about the LHSAA fishing around Rapides Parish anymore. There are cases where you do have to adhere to your zones still as well. In our case, you would make us a "select" school because we offer programs to kids that better their chances at college and knowledgable work experience prior to adulthood, when the school gains nothing monetarily from these kids choosing to enter these programs. Yes, they have requirements to enter these programs but you can also attend Peabody and choose not to enter any of those programs. That is not on the same level as a school that charges tuition and puts every kid through an application process simply to enter the school at the school's choice to let them in or not and is a safe haven in athletics for those who want to move to other schools to better their athletic abilities and futures only. That's why the ENTIRE thing is a load of crap, in ALL PHASES.
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Post by buck on Dec 14, 2018 16:36:44 GMT -6
Sounds good. Lets do that. I've explained this on here before. Rapides is Open Enrollment, but each school including Peabody all still have zones AND the school board enforces its own policy on athletic transfers that require you to sit if a transfer is deemed for athletic reasons. Its why you don't hear about the LHSAA fishing around Rapides Parish anymore. There are cases where you do have to adhere to your zones still as well. In our case, you would make us a "select" school because we offer programs to kids that better their chances at college and knowledgable work experience prior to adulthood, when the school gains nothing monetarily from these kids choosing to enter these programs. Yes, they have requirements to enter these programs but you can also attend Peabody and choose not to enter any of those programs. That is not on the same level as a school that charges tuition and puts every kid through an application process simply to enter the school at the school's choice to let them in or not and is a safe haven in athletics for those who want to move to other schools to better their athletic abilities and futures only. That's why the ENTIRE thing is a load of crap, in ALL PHASES. Warhorse you are dealing with people with . They will lump, shove, push, and kick out anyone in an effort to lesson competition. Their yellow stripes are obvious. If they succeed the private and Catholic schools would gladly welcome y’all.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Dec 14, 2018 17:18:47 GMT -6
I've explained this on here before. Rapides is Open Enrollment, but each school including Peabody all still have zones AND the school board enforces its own policy on athletic transfers that require you to sit if a transfer is deemed for athletic reasons. Its why you don't hear about the LHSAA fishing around Rapides Parish anymore. There are cases where you do have to adhere to your zones still as well. In our case, you would make us a "select" school because we offer programs to kids that better their chances at college and knowledgable work experience prior to adulthood, when the school gains nothing monetarily from these kids choosing to enter these programs. Yes, they have requirements to enter these programs but you can also attend Peabody and choose not to enter any of those programs. That is not on the same level as a school that charges tuition and puts every kid through an application process simply to enter the school at the school's choice to let them in or not and is a safe haven in athletics for those who want to move to other schools to better their athletic abilities and futures only. That's why the ENTIRE thing is a load of crap, in ALL PHASES. Warhorse you are dealing with people with . They will lump, shove, push, and kick out anyone in an effort to lesson competition. Their yellow stripes are obvious. If they succeed the private and Catholic schools would gladly welcome y’all. If you two read my previous post on this, not just the one ya'll are complaining about then they just went over your heads. As for my last post it was a sarcastic response to a sarcastic comment.
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Post by buck on Dec 14, 2018 18:31:13 GMT -6
Warhorse you are dealing with people with . They will lump, shove, push, and kick out anyone in an effort to lesson competition. Their yellow stripes are obvious. If they succeed the private and Catholic schools would gladly welcome y’all. If you two read my previous post on this, not just the one ya'll are complaining about then they just went over your heads. As for my last post it was a sarcastic response to a sarcastic comment. Lol, your yellow stripe is well documented.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 15, 2018 3:48:29 GMT -6
"Select" is much more of a function to keep kids out, rather than invite them in. If you can, by your school policy, keep children out of your school even though they live in your zone or nearest public school zone, you are deemed "select". As for Karr, yes, the can take whoever, but they have no policy that prevents kids from coming there. Therefore the school can grow and move up in class accordingly.
Many, most, private schools, have entrance requirement, that if not met by the student, can keep kids OUT of their school, therefore controlling enrollment. People look at the split from a "who you have" standpoint when in actuality it should be viewed from a "who you can keep out" standpoint. Karr doesn't select who is taken. A computer program does that among kids who have Karr as their first choice, and kids who don't get into their first choices but have Karr as a second or third choice
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Post by retired on Dec 15, 2018 6:36:48 GMT -6
"Select" is much more of a function to keep kids out, rather than invite them in. If you can, by your school policy, keep children out of your school even though they live in your zone or nearest public school zone, you are deemed "select". As for Karr, yes, the can take whoever, but they have no policy that prevents kids from coming there. Therefore the school can grow and move up in class accordingly.
Many, most, private schools, have entrance requirement, that if not met by the student, can keep kids OUT of their school, therefore controlling enrollment. People look at the split from a "who you have" standpoint when in actuality it should be viewed from a "who you can keep out" standpoint. Karr doesn't select who is taken. A computer program does that among kids who have Karr as their first choice, and kids who don't get into their first choices but have Karr as a second or third choice While that may be their stated position, I would be extremely surprised if Devin White, Ronnie Jackson etc...were "somehow" not more assured at getting selected to attend Karr as a first choice than a random high school student.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 15, 2018 7:16:33 GMT -6
Karr doesn't select who is taken. A computer program does that among kids who have Karr as their first choice, and kids who don't get into their first choices but have Karr as a second or third choice While that may be their stated position, I would be extremely surprised if Devin White, Ronnie Jackson etc...were "somehow" not more assured at getting selected to attend Karr as a first choice than a random high school student. Devin White was 300+ miles away. But I do believe there are families who have moved to St. Bernard Parish but still have their kids at Karr, Easton, etc. when they should now be Chalmette Owls
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Post by retired on Dec 15, 2018 8:10:27 GMT -6
While that may be their stated position, I would be extremely surprised if Devin White, Ronnie Jackson etc...were "somehow" not more assured at getting selected to attend Karr as a first choice than a random high school student. Devin White was 300+ miles away. But I do believe there are families who have moved to St. Bernard Parish but still have their kids at Karr, Easton, etc. when they should now be Chalmette Owls Devin Bush...lol Sorry. As far as "should now be Chalmette Owls" that is where the select/non select school zone issue gets muddy for me. The idea that students are bound human capital for schools based on where they sleep at night just isn't clear cut with me.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Dec 16, 2018 14:34:34 GMT -6
If you two read my previous post on this, not just the one ya'll are complaining about then they just went over your heads. As for my last post it was a sarcastic response to a sarcastic comment. Lol, your yellow stripe is well documented. Your Pea Brain couldn't understand what i was saying so i'll let u slide boy.
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Post by BGH on Dec 16, 2018 15:09:39 GMT -6
"Select" is much more of a function to keep kids out, rather than invite them in. If you can, by your school policy, keep children out of your school even though they live in your zone or nearest public school zone, you are deemed "select". As for Karr, yes, the can take whoever, but they have no policy that prevents kids from coming there. Therefore the school can grow and move up in class accordingly.
Many, most, private schools, have entrance requirement, that if not met by the student, can keep kids OUT of their school, therefore controlling enrollment. People look at the split from a "who you have" standpoint when in actuality it should be viewed from a "who you can keep out" standpoint. Karr doesn't select who is taken. A computer program does that among kids who have Karr as their first choice, and kids who don't get into their first choices but have Karr as a second or third choice
A computer does exactly what its programmers tells it to do, nothing more nothing less. The programmer gives it list of criteria and the computer without prejudice uses that criteria to develop data.
What criteria did they use? Was it strictly distance to the school, was it GPA, was it slanted toward minorities or underprivileged? Do legacies or at risk students get preference. If any of those things were used by the computer to develop a list then the students were SELECTED. No mater what spin you put on it, some students were selected and some students were kept out.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 16, 2018 15:52:38 GMT -6
Karr doesn't select who is taken. A computer program does that among kids who have Karr as their first choice, and kids who don't get into their first choices but have Karr as a second or third choice
A computer does exactly what its programmers tells it to do, nothing more nothing less. The programmer gives it list of criteria and the computer without prejudice uses that criteria to develop data.
What criteria did they use? Was it strictly distance to the school, was it GPA, was it slanted toward minorities or underprivileged? Do legacies or at risk students get preference. If any of those things were used by the computer to develop a list then the students were SELECTED. No mater what spin you put on it, some students were selected and some students were kept out.
it's about siblings and geographic zone...
geographic priority is only used to determine 50% of the seats in any school
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Post by boninesdrippins on Dec 16, 2018 17:03:37 GMT -6
An INCREDIBLE amount of misinformation on this thread. It’s like CNN
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Post by cjr3888 on Dec 17, 2018 11:32:00 GMT -6
If you think figuring out Select/Non-Select is confusing, that’s nothing compared to what’s going on in Lafayette/St Martin. St Martinville is losing kids to Southside High School which is in Lafayette Parish. Now the geniuses of the Lafayette Parish School Board want to move portable buildings to Southside because it’s over capacity.
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Post by blake2448 on Dec 17, 2018 14:15:56 GMT -6
Isn't southside a brand new school?
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Post by cjr3888 on Dec 17, 2018 14:49:26 GMT -6
Isn't southside a brand new school? Yes. Brand new and very expensive. Other schools in the parish were at 70-80% capacity and using portable buildings since the buildings are so old. Instead of fixing the schools, the school board built the monstrosity that is Southside.
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 18, 2018 11:11:22 GMT -6
Probably 90% of public school have students attending them who live outside of the attendance zone
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 18, 2018 11:14:14 GMT -6
Is any private school as bad as IMG Academy? They get players from all over the nation.
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Post by blake2448 on Dec 18, 2018 11:15:17 GMT -6
IMG would be double secret super select i believe
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 18, 2018 11:24:38 GMT -6
IMG would be double secret super select i believe Just imagine if we had schools like that in Louisiana who had football players from Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida. What kind of division or class would they be in, right?
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Post by blake2448 on Dec 18, 2018 11:30:28 GMT -6
well according to some people you just described West Monroe...
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Post by retired on Dec 18, 2018 21:08:45 GMT -6
Is any private school as bad as IMG Academy? They get players from all over the nation. No, but IMG Academy isn't really a traditional school in that sense. It is a talent agency that provides legally mandated education, as well as other professional development geared to future professional athletes.
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 18, 2018 21:27:30 GMT -6
It’s all a joke. Magnets are deemed as select while charters are not. All makes me chuckle. Get ready because McDonough 35 is coming to 3a as a charter. Reese whole staff split. Who is left beside Daggs? Look at this year how it played out.....
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Post by mt on Dec 19, 2018 7:43:03 GMT -6
It’s all a joke. Magnets are deemed as select while charters are not. All makes me chuckle. Get ready because McDonough 35 is coming to 3a as a charter. Reese whole staff split. Who is left beside Daggs? Look at this year how it played out..... They lost as much talent as anyone. Everyone knew it was a rebuilding year and last year was the chance. Lost Howard, Tillman, Keyes, Enzidore, mills, beckley, Tragic loss of a dlineman, Foucha and didn’t take in freshman. That’s a lot to overcome
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Post by iknownuthing on Dec 19, 2018 12:05:53 GMT -6
"Select" is much more of a function to keep kids out, rather than invite them in. If you can, by your school policy, keep children out of your school even though they live in your zone or nearest public school zone, you are deemed "select". As for Karr, yes, the can take whoever, but they have no policy that prevents kids from coming there. Therefore the school can grow and move up in class accordingly.
Many, most, private schools, have entrance requirement, that if not met by the student, can keep kids OUT of their school, therefore controlling enrollment. People look at the split from a "who you have" standpoint when in actuality it should be viewed from a "who you can keep out" standpoint. Yes, we all know the definition. But how does that translate to an advantage in athletics? Keeping potential athletes out of your school doesn't appear to be a good policy if all you want to do is win at football. Because the point of "select" was to punish private schools for existing and not just athletic success. Because we have enrollment standards for discipline and performance we are being punished. Because we have a greater academic success record we are being punished. Because we offer a more prudent and effective educational model we are being punished. It is all just a smoke screen to try and make private schools less attractive. Every private school student is a reduction in funding to the local public schools at a rate of about $13,000 per student annually. Considering that for example in Lafayette Parish, close to 40% of all students go to a private school from Pre k through 12 the loss of funds to public schools is astounding. Yet, the state does not give that money to the private schools, instead it stays with the state. So effectively, every single private school student's does not access the tax dollars their parents and grandparents have paid into the system. Instead, they pay the tax and then choose to pay additionally to avoid the disastrous public school system. What has happened is that in some places the percentage of traditional public school students has fallen tremendously and this will eventually lead to the collapse of the traditional public school. So the principals fiddle while traditional education in Louisiana burns.
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