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Post by deadman318 on Jan 14, 2019 9:34:53 GMT -6
Outdoor football in December would be hit or miss... Good news is if that does happen there is a strong possibility of playing in "not so cold" weather... Bad news is that if it is really cold the crowd will be small. Also, streaming live kills crowds as well...
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Post by blake2448 on Jan 14, 2019 11:01:24 GMT -6
Considering the astronomical costs associated with those 9 games being played in the dome, maybe the LHSAA should consider moving the games to another host site. I understand the people saying the kids want to play in the dome, but the costs have to be considered. I am pretty sure those same children would be just as happy if the games were played at LSU, which is done with football in December so they could easily host.
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Post by logic on Jan 14, 2019 12:16:35 GMT -6
An outside venue is a gamble with the weather in December. If it's mild and dry then its fine but if it's cold and rainy then not so fine. In the state championship the elements should be perfect for those kids and the game. Game should not be about money. the Superdome should also come down on their rental fee as well
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Post by blake2448 on Jan 14, 2019 13:13:45 GMT -6
It will always be about money first and the children second. I agree the weather is not always perfect in December, but then again it isn't a guarantee any of the other weeks. A domed stadium is ideal, but not for the price they are wanting the LHSAA to pay.
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Post by mt on Jan 14, 2019 17:37:47 GMT -6
Superdome charges this egregiously because they’ve basically monopolized that market. 1) only dome 2) tons of things to do outside of football(helps attendance) 3) no other viable option based on 1&2
I get Cajun field for 2a/div iii. Acadiana area is typically represented in this game and not too far from others. Just not sure how it works for every class. But if we talking monetary value, it makes sense for private’s to do there own thing
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Post by indy on Jan 14, 2019 19:29:00 GMT -6
Superdome charges this egregiously because they’ve basically monopolized that market. 1) only dome 2) tons of things to do outside of football(helps attendance) 3) no other viable option based on 1&2 I get Cajun field for 2a/div iii. Acadiana area is typically represented in this game and not too far from others. Just not sure how it works for every class. But if we talking monetary value, it makes sense for private’s to do there own thing They manage to play soccer state championships outdoors without 1 & 2.
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Post by easyduzit on Jan 14, 2019 19:40:13 GMT -6
The Saints and Benson family are multi billionaires, what would it hurt to donate the dome for a weekend and let the schools get the majority percentage and let the LHSAA get a flat rate. It would be a great tax right off for the Saints, and a drop in the bucket money wise. .0124% donation.
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Post by kbanes on Jan 14, 2019 21:14:07 GMT -6
Considering the astronomical costs associated with those 9 games being played in the dome, maybe the LHSAA should consider moving the games to another host site. I understand the people saying the kids want to play in the dome, but the costs have to be considered. I am pretty sure those same children would be just as happy if the games were played at LSU, which is done with football in December so they could easily host. I have a strong suspicion that nine games in a weekend is not going to be very interesting to the LSU field maintenance team. How much would it cost the LHSAA to resod Tiger stadium. I suspect that any stadium used for the playoffs would have to be some kind of artificial turf.
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Post by btown on Jan 15, 2019 6:10:04 GMT -6
Superdome charges this egregiously because they’ve basically monopolized that market. 1) only dome 2) tons of things to do outside of football(helps attendance) 3) no other viable option based on 1&2 I get Cajun field for 2a/div iii. Acadiana area is typically represented in this game and not too far from others. Just not sure how it works for every class. But if we talking monetary value, it makes sense for private’s to do there own thing They manage to play soccer state championships outdoors without 1 & 2. Put it out for bid. I know of two High School stadiums that could handle and probably more. Sulphur and West Monroe.
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Post by indy on Jan 15, 2019 6:28:03 GMT -6
They manage to play soccer state championships outdoors without 1 & 2. Put it out for bid. I know of two High School stadiums that could handle and probably more. Sulphur and West Monroe. UL would bid $0. They have an indoor practice facility next door for warm ups if weather is less than perfect, great parking and plenty of hotels to accommodate those who chose to stay. It’s the most centralized stadium in the state and is at the confluence of I-49 and I-10. Even if the attendance is down it would add $800k to the pot because of no rent. That’s $44,000 per team it should be a no brainer except for the fact that our self serving s running the show have no brains.
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Post by kbanes on Jan 15, 2019 10:59:59 GMT -6
Not that I'm opposed to UL hosting, but how does someone know that UL would bid $0? Has it come up before? Are they on record?
I remember that the rate that the Superdome charged the LHSAA was previously posted, and I remember that it was along the lines of $700,00, but was this ever verified in any way?
kbanes
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Post by mt on Jan 15, 2019 12:48:50 GMT -6
Superdome charges this egregiously because they’ve basically monopolized that market. 1) only dome 2) tons of things to do outside of football(helps attendance) 3) no other viable option based on 1&2 I get Cajun field for 2a/div iii. Acadiana area is typically represented in this game and not too far from others. Just not sure how it works for every class. But if we talking monetary value, it makes sense for private’s to do there own thing They manage to play soccer state championships outdoors without 1 & 2. Fair point, you got me there.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jan 16, 2019 8:12:28 GMT -6
the Superdome is owned by the state, not the Saints, if that makes a difference
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Post by mt on Jan 16, 2019 8:18:01 GMT -6
the Superdome is owned by the state, not the Saints, if that makes a difference Makes sense why the price is insanely high
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Post by Rick James on Jan 16, 2019 8:46:17 GMT -6
the Superdome is owned by the state, not the Saints, if that makes a difference Makes sense why the price is insanely high And a company has been hired to run it. Management Group.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jan 16, 2019 10:49:19 GMT -6
Put it out for bid. I know of two High School stadiums that could handle and probably more. Sulphur and West Monroe. UL would bid $0. They have an indoor practice facility next door for warm ups if weather is less than perfect, great parking and plenty of hotels to accommodate those who chose to stay. It’s the most centralized stadium in the state and is at the confluence of I-49 and I-10. Even if the attendance is down it would add $800k to the pot because of no rent. That’s $44,000 per team it should be a no brainer except for the fact that our self serving s running the show have no brains. I am not so sure UL and Lafayette would have a high level of interest in dealing with the incompetence and arrogance of the LHSAA. We put on the best basketball tournament championships ever seen in this state and s politicked to get it removed from Lafayette. The new site turned into an absolute fiasco for the next few years and when UL and Lafayette were asked to resubmit an offer they declined. But if they were to deal only with the Divisional Championships, they might be willing to offer it up, but for the whole LHSAA and the public school stupidity and corruption that undoubtable comes along with dealing with public school principals, I severely doubt it.
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Post by scholastic1 on Jan 16, 2019 19:07:48 GMT -6
Makes sense if it makes the schools more money. Crowds would be bigger if played at a neutral site.
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Post by mt on Jan 17, 2019 20:47:33 GMT -6
I made a new thread about the entire meeting next week but a quote from Teurlings principal “-It would be less rental, fewer days for the LHSAA staff on the job and home game on the bracket for select teams (championships). It’s expensive to lose playoff games in several sports if you do well and catch byes. It affects your bottom line.” -Teurlings Principal
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Post by indy on Jan 17, 2019 21:11:30 GMT -6
I made a new thread about the entire meeting next week but a quote from Teurlings principal “-It would be less rental, fewer days for the LHSAA staff on the job and home game on the bracket for select teams (championships). It’s expensive to lose playoff games in several sports if you do well and catch byes. It affects your bottom line.” -Teurlings Principal He should have put a proposal for 11 game seasons for the private schools also.
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Post by louisianafootballfan on Jan 18, 2019 7:41:54 GMT -6
Put it out for bid. I know of two High School stadiums that could handle and probably more. Sulphur and West Monroe. UL would bid $0. They have an indoor practice facility next door for warm ups if weather is less than perfect, great parking and plenty of hotels to accommodate those who chose to stay. It’s the most centralized stadium in the state and is at the confluence of I-49 and I-10. Even if the attendance is down it would add $800k to the pot because of no rent. That’s $44,000 per team it should be a no brainer except for the fact that our self serving s running the show have no brains. ^^^^^^ This this this this this this this this^^^^^^^
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Post by wildcat on Jan 18, 2019 10:03:54 GMT -6
Im willing to bet their would be kids and coaches willing to play in a parking lot or cow pasture if they had a chance to win a state title. Its about the title, not the location.
The only person who would suffer from playing outside in a cold game would be the winning coach when he receives a Gatorade bath (which by the way you cant do in the Superdome).
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Post by Rick James on Jan 18, 2019 11:33:15 GMT -6
Im willing to bet their would be kids and coaches willing to play in a parking lot or cow pasture if they had a chance to win a state title. Its about the title, not the location. The only person who would suffer from playing outside in a cold game would be the winning coach when he receives a Gatorade bath (which by the way you cant do in the Superdome). Bonine basically said yesterday that this was against the rules. EC sets championship sites, not schools. Going to ask them to remove this before vote.
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Post by coachtanklo on Jan 18, 2019 13:02:49 GMT -6
It is a good proposal. LHSAA cries about not having enough money , not having enough man power , not having enough of everything. This proposal saves them money , saves them man power, saves them everything . THE LHSAA AND A LOT OF YOU SAY IT IS A PRINCIPAL RUN ORGANIZATION. THIS IS A SELECT SCHOOL MATTER . LET THE SELECT SCHOOLS PRINCIPALS VOTE ON IT . IN FACT EVERY PROPOSAL SHOULD BE VOTED ON BY THE PRINCIPALS , NOT THE EXCECUTIVE COMMITTEE. My opinion.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jan 18, 2019 15:19:02 GMT -6
Im willing to bet their would be kids and coaches willing to play in a parking lot or cow pasture if they had a chance to win a state title. Its about the title, not the location. The only person who would suffer from playing outside in a cold game would be the winning coach when he receives a Gatorade bath (which by the way you cant do in the Superdome). we'll see on Sunday about at 6:00 PM
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