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Post by retired on Feb 17, 2019 11:24:46 GMT -6
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Post by TheFireman89 on Feb 17, 2019 12:04:52 GMT -6
This is actually a big problem IMO. A lot of schools "cast a wide net" so to speak. Ive seen where some P5 schools "offer" well over 100 scholarships. And some players will commit and stay committed for months or even over a years and a week before signing day get told there was never really a scholarship for them. It's down right wrong.
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Post by retired on Feb 17, 2019 12:13:42 GMT -6
This is actually a big problem IMO. A lot of schools "cast a wide net" so to speak. Ive seen where some P5 schools "offer" well over 100 scholarships. And some players will commit and stay committed for months or even over a years and a week before signing day get told there was never really a scholarship for them. It's down right wrong. I agree. I believe a major contributing factor to this is the increase in "recruiting" essentially becoming an entity on its own, with media coverage, media covered (and produced) signing ceremonies etc.
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Post by TheFireman89 on Feb 17, 2019 12:41:16 GMT -6
If the NCAA really cared about these athletes (which we all know they don't) they would institute a cap on how many scholarships a program can offer in a cycle. I would say 50-60. I get offering more than you can sign because a lot of players switch commitments, or don't qualify academically, or anything else. But 300-400 offers for a 25 man class is asinine and the coaches that do this should be ashamed of themselves. I wish some of these sources would name the coaches that do these things so prospects can know who is legit and who is two faced when offering.
And a nice little plug from Feaster in there lol. I still say I agree with what he did in that situation, regardless of anything else about him
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Post by cvwildcatfan on Feb 17, 2019 12:41:43 GMT -6
Coach Feaster lost his job at Parkway for standing up to someone who did those kind of offers...
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Post by retired on Feb 17, 2019 12:48:52 GMT -6
Coach Feaster lost his job at Parkway for standing up to someone who did those kind of offers... That is mentioned in the article.
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Post by retired on Feb 17, 2019 12:54:32 GMT -6
If the NCAA really cared about these athletes (which we all know they don't) they would institute a cap on how many scholarships a program can offer in a cycle. I would say 50-60. I get offering more than you can sign because a lot of players switch commitments, or don't qualify academically, or anything else. But 300-400 offers for a 25 man class is asinine and the coaches that do this should be ashamed of themselves. I wish some of these sources would name the coaches that do these things so prospects can know who is legit and who is two faced when offering. And a nice little plug from Feaster in there lol. I still say I agree with what he did in that situation, regardless of anything else about him My suggestion has been to create a recruiting clearinghouse so to speak, and make all offers acceptable and binding to both parties upon acceptance. Essentially make the process a "say what you mean and mean what you say" process. You want to "offer" a kid in the 9th grade? Thats fine. If the kid accepts, great and he is now bound to you. He can't decommit and you can't pull the offer. Hope it turns out well for the both of you.
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Post by bigrob on Feb 17, 2019 13:13:13 GMT -6
If the NCAA really cared about these athletes (which we all know they don't) they would institute a cap on how many scholarships a program can offer in a cycle. I would say 50-60. I get offering more than you can sign because a lot of players switch commitments, or don't qualify academically, or anything else. But 300-400 offers for a 25 man class is asinine and the coaches that do this should be ashamed of themselves. I wish some of these sources would name the coaches that do these things so prospects can know who is legit and who is two faced when offering. And a nice little plug from Feaster in there lol. I still say I agree with what he did in that situation, regardless of anything else about him Yeah, it's pretty common knowledge the NCAA doesn't really care about players (for example, see: Sheely v NCAA). Also, I had to see if Feaster was who I thought yall were referring to (he is) and I agree on that part 100%. I also agree about players who get hosed by offers that aren't really offers-if they're lucky, a smaller school still has a spot for them and they can still go ball out, but some players in the previously mentioned situation won't be that lucky.
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Post by retired on Feb 17, 2019 15:39:15 GMT -6
If the NCAA really cared about these athletes (which we all know they don't) they would institute a cap on how many scholarships a program can offer in a cycle. I would say 50-60. I get offering more than you can sign because a lot of players switch commitments, or don't qualify academically, or anything else. But 300-400 offers for a 25 man class is asinine and the coaches that do this should be ashamed of themselves. I wish some of these sources would name the coaches that do these things so prospects can know who is legit and who is two faced when offering. And a nice little plug from Feaster in there lol. I still say I agree with what he did in that situation, regardless of anything else about him Yeah, it's pretty common knowledge the NCAA doesn't really care about players (for example, see: Sheely v NCAA). Also, I had to see if Feaster was who I thought yall were referring to (he is) and I agree on that part 100%. I also agree about players who get hosed by offers that aren't really offers-if they're lucky, a smaller school still has a spot for them and they can still go ball out, but some players in the previously mentioned situation won't be that lucky. To be fair though, Sheely is a case involving an athlete under NCAA jurisdiction. This thread is about students who have yet to attend an NCAA member institution.
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Post by bigrob on Feb 17, 2019 15:50:17 GMT -6
Yeah, it's pretty common knowledge the NCAA doesn't really care about players (for example, see: Sheely v NCAA). Also, I had to see if Feaster was who I thought yall were referring to (he is) and I agree on that part 100%. I also agree about players who get hosed by offers that aren't really offers-if they're lucky, a smaller school still has a spot for them and they can still go ball out, but some players in the previously mentioned situation won't be that lucky. To be fair though, Sheely is a case involving an athlete under NCAA jurisdiction. This thread is about students who have yet to attend an NCAA member institution. True, it just shows their mentality in general. It's not an apples to apples comparison, but the thought process in one explains a lot about the other.
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Post by retired on Feb 17, 2019 15:54:42 GMT -6
To be fair though, Sheely is a case involving an athlete under NCAA jurisdiction. This thread is about students who have yet to attend an NCAA member institution. True, it just shows their mentality in general. It's not an apples to apples comparison, but the thought process in one explains a lot about the other. I don't know if I agree with that necessarily. I do agree however, with one of the assertions made by the plaintiff in Sheely which is that the current mission of the NCAA is to maximize membership revenue as opposed to its stated core purpose.
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Post by bootbound on Feb 18, 2019 8:42:50 GMT -6
It's a dirty bidness!
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Post by mt on Feb 20, 2019 12:53:04 GMT -6
One thing I always say, if you want your answer to a question, follow the money....offers go out to get these kids to camp. Camps cost money...anywhere from 50-500 bucks. So offer 300-400, waive cost of the 30-40 you really want, have the others pay the prices. Lol math is pretty good on the revenue taken in
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Post by chalmetteowl on Feb 20, 2019 13:12:28 GMT -6
Heres why they do it. The college coaches would rather have a lot of kids committ and then cut them before signing day to get the ones they want. It's like a 2 or 3 year long tryout process.
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