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Post by wshs on May 20, 2019 10:21:52 GMT -6
It simply amazes me that you will find a way to drag the split into any and every thread created. I can only imagine how hard it is for someone to have a face to face conversation with you.
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Post by indy on May 20, 2019 10:29:06 GMT -6
Sorry it's difficult for me to be okay with kids being cheated.
What I think is amazing is how most of these posters can pivot on their issues Iota has kid living in Broussard no big deal ND does split them out Loreauville has kid living in New Iberia - insult me Catholic of New Iberia has kid living in Loreauville - split them out
Point out two transfers Evangel received and one Notre Dame gets
Completely over look Sterlington transfer QB or Many transfer QB
Make up allegations of ND softball team no mention of Iota girl who lives out of zone no mention of Crowley girl who lives in Jennings or my personal favorite Caldwell Parish pitcher lives in Ville Platte and attended three different schools in high school and signed with McNeese
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Post by icemanparsons on May 21, 2019 17:27:39 GMT -6
Another post that went from 👌 to 🤮🙄🤯
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Post by warriorsblue on May 24, 2019 8:10:01 GMT -6
I also hate the split because I remember great playoff games between public and private. Still play during the season but it isn't the same and most fans agree with that and some coaches agree with that. It will never go back but I sure miss it.
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Post by indy on May 24, 2019 9:00:41 GMT -6
It amazes me how public schools and the lhsaa can be upset with privates trying to do their own thing for championships when they are such a minority as to be bullied
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Post by billyb on May 25, 2019 0:33:40 GMT -6
ND team is loaded with great high school football players from top to bottom. Everybody on the board knows that. Good hard nosed tough football players from about 5 parishes. Everybody on the board knows what plays for ND and how you get them. Softball team of areas best is ridiculous beat Kinder by combined score of 50-0. Continue crying maybe mommy will give you a bottle. Everybody in the state despises Many (only exceptions are people that go to Many, went to Many, work at Many) Other than that I can assure you that everyone loves to see Many lose. This message board lights up like Vegas when you guys get beat in any sport. The privates can’t stand you because you act like you could compete against the privates. The publics can’t stand you because you guys act like you have been a perennial sports juggernaut. By the way, neither is even remotely true. There are two teams I love, the New Orleans Saints and any team playing Many Try to be nice when you get callled out for whining and or skirting the rules by having the only football school in your zone. When you start winning championships against “all” the teams in the state it would be understandable to get a little excited, until then thank the LHSAA for the split and move on. Mediocrity is not to be celebrated, play some good teams and see how you shake out, pretty sure Curtis could find a hole in their schedule.
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Post by tigerfan87 on May 28, 2019 14:43:22 GMT -6
Winning 2 out of three State championships in baseball..Looks like a dynasty in baseball is happening. They have been a baseball school for awhile big dawg. OCS is a baseball school also first and foremost. Sterlington will likely win football this new school year also. They are going to be very good. hey how much does sterlington have coming back? I thought in the dome I counted about half their starters were seniors but I could have been way off
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Post by iamray on May 29, 2019 10:18:39 GMT -6
Sorry it's difficult for me to be okay with kids being cheated. But I bet you were fine with all of the public school players getting cheated when the private programs started abusing the sit out rule which directly led to the split. Only when it affects your program do you begin this sanctimonious charade.
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Post by indy on May 30, 2019 8:10:50 GMT -6
Hi Ray
Hope you enjoyed your break from the site. I haven't seen a post from you in a while until today. It's really hard to debate or argue with you since you move the goalpost and pivot so much. At what point did publics follow zones, especially in North Louisiana? I know of West Monroe taking other schools players as early as 2000. Anyhow biggest issue i have is your assertion that i'm ok with any kids being cheated which i'm not. I don't care if they attend a public, private or some other version of school. I would think that a path to reunification would have to start with a sit down and finding common ground. I would like to think that we could at least agree that most "non select" schools are now starting at least one if not more out of zone kids in all of their sports.
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Post by iamray on Jun 3, 2019 8:46:00 GMT -6
Hi Ray Hope you enjoyed your break from the site. I haven't seen a post from you in a while until today. It's really hard to debate or argue with you since you move the goalpost and pivot so much. At what point did publics follow zones, especially in North Louisiana? I know of West Monroe taking other schools players as early as 2000. Anyhow biggest issue i have is your assertion that i'm ok with any kids being cheated which i'm not. I don't care if they attend a public, private or some other version of school. I would think that a path to reunification would have to start with a sit down and finding common ground. I would like to think that we could at least agree that most "non select" schools are now starting at least one if not more out of zone kids in all of their sports. "At what point did publics follow zones, especially in North Louisiana? I know of West Monroe taking other schools players as early as 2000." You cannot play football for Neville or West Monroe unless you live in a Neville or West Monroe zone. It is against the rules for either school to play a kid who does not live in their zone. These schools would be breaking LHSAA rules to play a kid who does not live in their zone.
Private schools can play a kid who lives anywhere. All the kid has to do is sit a year and poof, the kid is eligible. This was perfectly legal and created an unequal advantage the public schools could not utilize.
I'm done talking in circles with you. Your animosity toward all things public school blinds you to the very reason public schools wanted to make a change. If you can't acknowledge that private schools had an inherent advantage over public schools thanks to the sit-out rule, then this harangue is pointless.
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 11:00:24 GMT -6
My animosity l, seriously. Obviously I don’t like how kids are being cheated. But you seriously think all Public have only in-zone kids. If that was the case how in the world what the sit out be put up by public schools and passed by public schools?
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Post by warpig on Jun 3, 2019 16:17:10 GMT -6
Notre Dame has NEVER had an out of parish kid from public school start a football game or play on any special teams in 22 years these kids have come from public middle school Jake Borill - Offensive Line Mark Spell - Offensive Line Rusty Leger - Receiver Bailey Leonards - Receiver But i guess go ahead and keep telling yourself lies about these advantages i guess it doesn't make you feel as bad about the lack of REAL success at Many if you feel those that are winning are cheating Yes i hate the split but it's because i'm against kids being unfairly punished You seem to like it because it props up your school This sure seems like an example of a poorly adjusted person to have to push someone down to feel good about themselves Tyler Shelvin-Northside High/ND Crowley
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 16:29:13 GMT -6
Notre Dame has NEVER had an out of parish kid from public school start a football game or play on any special teams in 22 years these kids have come from public middle school Jake Borill - Offensive Line Mark Spell - Offensive Line Rusty Leger - Receiver Bailey Leonards - Receiver But i guess go ahead and keep telling yourself lies about these advantages i guess it doesn't make you feel as bad about the lack of REAL success at Many if you feel those that are winning are cheating Yes i hate the split but it's because i'm against kids being unfairly punished You seem to like it because it props up your school This sure seems like an example of a poorly adjusted person to have to push someone down to feel good about themselves Tyler Shelvin-Northside High/ND Crowley Read closely and slowly. I said middle school. Tylers transfer was midterm his jr year after he already signed with LSU
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Post by warpig on Jun 3, 2019 18:33:16 GMT -6
Tyler Shelvin-Northside High/ND Crowley Read closely and slowly. I said middle school. Tylers transfer was midterm his jr year after he already signed with LSU This was what you said: Notre Dame has NEVER had an out of parish kid from public school start a football game or play on any special teams I read nothing about middle school in that statement. Seemed like the glaring exception to your statement because he was a pretty high profile transfer.
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 19:56:48 GMT -6
Your right in the post I said we hadn’t had an out of parish transfer
I’m glad you brought this up I’m sure some other people were thinking of this
I meant it to be coming from public middle school but didn’t say it
This is why I think my point is still valid.
The advantage that private’s are told we have is we can take out of zone kids and they sit out a year thus becoming eligible. Well as a senior transfer Shelvin didn’t have this option. Tyler who was zoned for Lafayette high went out of zone to Northside. A public school who took an out of zone kid. But back to the original point Tyler was forced to move to crowley to play for nd. He could have moved to any school. Breaux Bridge picked up an all state senior transfer pitcher by the same rule. All schools are able to use the same rule that Tyler used. And as far as contribution to the team he wasn’t even named to the first team all district team.
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Post by warpig on Jun 3, 2019 20:10:12 GMT -6
Your right in the post I said we hadn’t had an out of parish transfer I’m glad you brought this up I’m sure some other people were thinking of this I meant it to be coming from public middle school but didn’t say it This is why I think my point is still valid. The advantage that private’s are told we have is we can take out of zone kids and they sit out a year thus becoming eligible. Well as a senior transfer Shelvin didn’t have this option. Tyler who was zoned for Lafayette high went out of zone to Northside. A public school who took an out of zone kid. But back to the original point Tyler was forced to move to crowley to play for nd. He could have moved to any school. Breaux Bridge picked up an all state senior transfer pitcher by the same rule. All schools are able to use the same rule that Tyler used. And as far as contribution to the team he wasn’t even named to the first team all district team. Look man...deflect all you want. You can say, “this school did this & this player lived here”. Man, that’s what elementary aged kids do; bring up somebody else when their actions are in question. Secondly, say what you want, but having a SEC caliber player on your team definitely adds “contribution”.
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 20:18:49 GMT -6
I provided context of the rule he used
Wasn’t deflecting
Get on YouTube pull up the film he spent most of the defensive snaps on the sideline. We had a home grown all state d tackle next to him.
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 20:21:19 GMT -6
Team before Shelvin was 14-0 Team after Shelvin was 13-1
Both played for championship
His didn’t
Look at this too How much has he impacted LSU’s defense?
His senior year was the same story
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 20:29:43 GMT -6
The originally point remains is that nd hasn’t gotten an out of parish transfer kid who used the sit out deal that public schools can use too and had the kid play varsity
Yes Tyler played Yes Tyler transferred No he wasn’t gonna be eligible at Northside No he couldn’t go to an in parish school because of lhsaa rules at the time No he couldn’t go to img
Would any of you even care if he went to a public school instead?
The originally point was simply pointing out that nd hasn’t used this perceived advantage to get public school kids and still hasn’t due him having to move
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Post by warpig on Jun 3, 2019 20:44:52 GMT -6
Team before Shelvin was 14-0 Team after Shelvin was 13-1 Both played for championship His didn’t Look at this too How much has he impacted LSU’s defense? His senior year was the same story Are we comparing LSU’s defense to ND’s?? Are we to infer because he doesn’t have a big impact on a defense that plays in arguably the best conference in the nation, that somehow he couldn’t have had much impact at Notre Dame-Crowley? Because I don’t care what the name of your team is, or whether they are select or non select....if you are 2A & an SEC caliber player comes to your school, their impact will be significant. I don’t care where the kid came from. I dont care where he went. The reason he was used as an example was a statement you made- and to me, he looked to be the glaring exception of your statement(which, worded the way you chose, left little wiggle room). The saddest thing about ANY of this is that this post was supposed to have nothing to do with any split talk. At least that’s not what the author intended. But this is where another thread has gone....again. It’s sad how much this split has affected you-a grown man.
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 20:50:25 GMT -6
So basically it doesn’t matter what I say?
You simply going to continue to state the obvious?
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Post by warpig on Jun 3, 2019 21:08:39 GMT -6
So basically it doesn’t matter what I say? You simply going to continue to state the obvious? No. I’m thinking it might be more effective instead to just post irrelevant talk on every thread that comes up. I think that’s the best way to spend my time On here. Seems to be getting a lot done....
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 21:15:18 GMT -6
Great. Someone else on here with a since of humor. I love irony. I really hope this isn’t lost on you WarPig. You pointed out the exact word for word quote so I guess I should do the same. Now it’s debatable as to the relevance of what I said what is concrete is that I post to EVERY THREAD. I don’t.
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Post by indy on Jun 4, 2019 12:34:34 GMT -6
Question for WArPig IAMRAY or anyone else
If only private “select” schools took in out of zone kids then why did multiple public schools put up the rule about out of zone eligible for subvarsity and why did they vote it in?
Obviously the “non select” aren’t in the business of doing what’s best for the “select”
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Post by GUNSLINGER on Jun 4, 2019 23:26:18 GMT -6
Question for WArPig IAMRAY or anyone else If only private “select” schools took in out of zone kids then why did multiple public schools put up the rule about out of zone eligible for subvarsity and why did they vote it in? Obviously the “non select” aren’t in the business of doing what’s best for the “select” And here goes Indy, hijacking yet another thread with talk of select/non-select/split.
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Post by indy on Jun 5, 2019 2:37:49 GMT -6
Did you even see what I replied too and what I said that got us on this tangent?
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Post by warpig on Jun 11, 2019 19:32:04 GMT -6
Did you even see what I replied too and what I said that got us on this tangent? Did it have a whole lot to do with Sterlington being a baseball school?
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Post by indy on Jun 11, 2019 20:05:59 GMT -6
Actually no
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Post by jimbo85 on Jun 11, 2019 20:17:21 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 11, 2019 20:59:20 GMT -6
It had absolutely zero to do with Sterlington
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