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Post by Southplaq on May 30, 2019 2:36:15 GMT -6
I was listening to some coaches talk about Zachary, the infrastructure in that are, and the overall growth and development in that area, and they seem to think that we might be on the verge of another Louisiana football powerhouse and eventual dynasty. I’m not sure if Zachary, like other teams from time to time, is simply having good run with a good group of kids, or if they are building something special there. I do see the potential for massive growth and and subsequent population boom in that area, and the eventual pipeline of football talent into the area. Catholic BR and UHigh might be in trouble.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 8:07:40 GMT -6
I was listening to some coaches talk about Zachary, the infrastructure in that are, and the overall growth and development in that area, and they seem to think that we might be on the verge of another Louisiana football powerhouse and eventual dynasty. I’m not sure if Zachary, like other teams from time to time, is simply having good run with a good group of kids, or if they are building something special there. I do see the potential for massive growth and and subsequent population boom in that area, and the eventual pipeline of football talent into the area. Catholic BR and UHigh might be in trouble. I disagree. Most of the Zachary area was employed by Georgia Pacific which laid off about 700 employees last year. That area isn’t booming anywhere close to Ascension Parish and St. George. If the St. George proposal passes, there is only 1 high school in that area. Woodlawn. That maybe scary. Those kids who leave St. George and go to Catholic might think twice if that happens. It’s all speculation man. Zachary is loaded for the next years. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. Central is another area to put in this discussion. It’s blowing up too. Walker too.
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Post by indy on May 30, 2019 8:14:00 GMT -6
The one thing that seems to be overlooked a lot is the impact of coaching. David Brewerton is one of the best coaches in the State i look for zachary to continue to dominate.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 8:16:59 GMT -6
Zachary has an incoming freshmen coming in!!!! Dude is legit!!!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 15:36:24 GMT -6
Wish MT was around (seems he has disappeared lately) to address this.
He has said countless times that the area is expanding and how the youth league is the best he has seen, and he has seen them all just about.
So something does not jive with what Jklee days and MT has said. .
I would like some clarification there if possible.
I'd like to know about this freshman. You speak of. What position? Cedric Brown Jr. started (or at least have valuable minutes) two years ago in spots when they won stage, so they have a habit of playing freshmen if they are needed.
They have made the semifinals I believe 5 years in a row and played in the SuperDome 3 of those 5 years. So, the talent seems to pour in regardless. And, if Brewerton is as good of a coach, and his staff is also as good, the players will "transfer" in.
Just as two players I see in Jalen Creer (could be the freshman Jklee is speaking of at receiver) and Riley Howard at linebacker, both who were not on a roster last season.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 21:42:57 GMT -6
Wish MT was around (seems he has disappeared lately) to address this. He has said countless times that the area is expanding and how the youth league is the best he has seen, and he has seen them all just about. So something does not jive with what Jklee days and MT has said. . I would like some clarification there if possible. I'd like to know about this freshman. You speak of. What position? Cedric Brown Jr. started (or at least have valuable minutes) two years ago in spots when they won stage, so they have a habit of playing freshmen if they are needed. They have made the semifinals I believe 5 years in a row and played in the SuperDome 3 of those 5 years. So, the talent seems to pour in regardless. And, if Brewerton is as good of a coach, and his staff is also as good, the players will "transfer" in. Just as two players I see in Jalen Creer (could be the freshman Jklee is speaking of at receiver) and Riley Howard at linebacker, both who were not on a roster last season. The youth program is great. But in my opinion I think the plant having that massive layoff will affect that area. Now a friend of mine read my post earlier and said it won’t affect the football program at all. He gave a few good reasons why. A lot of BR people have moved and are still moving to that area. The youth program is loaded. It’s a kid name Davieko Ruffin. Please remember his name. He’s only 12 but this dude will be special. Runs track over the summer with my daughter. And I was speaking on an incoming freshman at Zachary. He’s a 2 sport guy. He can flat out go. So maybe I misspoke earlier. But it was my opinion.
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Post by retired on May 31, 2019 14:25:19 GMT -6
The one thing that seems to be overlooked a lot is the impact of coaching. David Brewerton is one of the best coaches in the State i look for zachary to continue to dominate. Eh.. sometimes it can be overrated when compared to other factors. Particularly at a public school, where more factors can come into play (although attendance can hurt private schools pretty quick--see Redemptorist) Dennis Dunn for example. 162-21 at ECA , 44-22 elsewhere (those figures may be off a bit, as various news sources gave conflicting records) None of that diminishes his accomplishments as a coach, but rather should just highlight that being a "powerhouse" has more to do with other factors than just the HC. Now, should conditions remain the same at Zachary, and Brewerton remain at the helm, no reason not to expect more of the same.
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Post by Raven on May 31, 2019 16:09:52 GMT -6
Touching on a few points regarding Zachary... JKLee does have a point about the plant closure affecting jobs in the area. I think that will be offset as long as Zachary continues to be the highest rated school district in the state. More people who work in Baton Rouge and the surrounding area will be willing to commute from Zachary if it means keeping their kids in one the of the best schools.
That will lead to more young families wanting to move into the area, which will increase property values, which will lead to additional revenue for the school through property taxes. All that leads to an even better school experience, and even more people wanting to move there.
Ascension Parish is experiencing the same kind of thing, but their kids are being split between 3 very large public schools with EA, STA and Dutchtown. Not to mention the AP kids that go to private schools in South BR like St. Michael, Parkview, Dunham, Episcopal, etc...
Once Redemptorist closed, both Central and Zachary saw an improvement, but Zachary started their independent district a few years before Central so they got a head start after separating themselves from the EBR system.
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Post by Southplaq on May 31, 2019 17:21:28 GMT -6
The one thing that seems to be overlooked a lot is the impact of coaching. David Brewerton is one of the best coaches in the State i look for zachary to continue to dominate. Eh.. sometimes it can be overrated when compared to other factors. Particularly at a public school, where more factors can come into play (although attendance can hurt private schools pretty quick--see Redemptorist) Dennis Dunn for example. 162-21 at ECA , 44-22 elsewhere (those figures may be off a bit, as various news sources gave conflicting records) None of that diminishes his accomplishments as a coach, but rather should just highlight that being a "powerhouse" has more to do with other factors than just the HC. Now, should conditions remain the same at Zachary, and Brewerton remain at the helm, no reason not to expect more of the same. excellent point!!
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2019 18:08:53 GMT -6
Eh.. sometimes it can be overrated when compared to other factors. Particularly at a public school, where more factors can come into play (although attendance can hurt private schools pretty quick--see Redemptorist) Dennis Dunn for example. 162-21 at ECA , 44-22 elsewhere (those figures may be off a bit, as various news sources gave conflicting records) None of that diminishes his accomplishments as a coach, but rather should just highlight that being a "powerhouse" has more to do with other factors than just the HC. Now, should conditions remain the same at Zachary, and Brewerton remain at the helm, no reason not to expect more of the same. excellent point!! May sound silly, but they remind me of the 5A version of Neville...
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Post by retired on Jun 1, 2019 10:18:29 GMT -6
Wish MT was around (seems he has disappeared lately) to address this. He has said countless times that the area is expanding and how the youth league is the best he has seen, and he has seen them all just about. So something does not jive with what Jklee days and MT has said. . I would like some clarification there if possible. I'd like to know about this freshman. You speak of. What position? Cedric Brown Jr. started (or at least have valuable minutes) two years ago in spots when they won stage, so they have a habit of playing freshmen if they are needed. They have made the semifinals I believe 5 years in a row and played in the SuperDome 3 of those 5 years. So, the talent seems to pour in regardless. And, if Brewerton is as good of a coach, and his staff is also as good, the players will "transfer" in. Just as two players I see in Jalen Creer (could be the freshman Jklee is speaking of at receiver) and Riley Howard at linebacker, both who were not on a roster last season. The youth program is great. But in my opinion I think the plant having that massive layoff will affect that area. It may or may not, but that is definitely the type of thing that can help dislodge a school (particularly a public school) from the mountain top. I agree. I think another crazy part of the equation is that it seems now in sports society if you aren't the best you don't make the attempt. There seems to be a mindset that anything less than the championship is a worthless endeavor, and as such we definitely seem to be witnessing a growing gap between the haves and the have nots. So that may favor teams currently on top. It seems now more than ever, the environment and culture dictates that athletes don't struggle to help "their school" compete for a district championship and a good year but rather all migrate to the same school to compete for state. Thanks NBA
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 11:28:03 GMT -6
The youth program is great. But in my opinion I think the plant having that massive layoff will affect that area. It may or may not, but that is definitely the type of thing that can help dislodge a school (particularly a public school) from the mountain top. I agree. I think another crazy part of the equation is that it seems now in sports society if you aren't the best you don't make the attempt. There seems to be a mindset that anything less than the championship is a worthless endeavor, and as such we definitely seem to be witnessing a growing gap between the haves and the have nots. So that may favor teams currently on top. It seems now more than ever, the environment and culture dictates that athletes don't struggle to help "their school" compete for a district championship and a good year but rather all migrate to the same school to compete for state. Thanks NBA Yep. I agree. The LeBron syndrome. But I can’t hate the game. I know for a fact kids in the BR area want to gang up at 1 school and blow everybody out. That’s definitely how it is here in EVERY sport not just football.
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Post by icemanparsons on Jun 1, 2019 20:42:44 GMT -6
Seems they're better than good
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 21:00:52 GMT -6
Seems they're better than good Zachary will not win state this year. Mark those words down. Remember then well. That will go to either Acadiana, West Monroe or Destrehan. Acadiana is my favorite this year by a very large margin. Very large. Depth everywhere and their junior and sopre classes are the best in public school 5A.
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Post by Southplaq on Jun 1, 2019 22:09:48 GMT -6
Seems they're better than good Zachary will not win state this year. Mark those words down. Remember then well. That will go to either Acadiana, West Monroe or Destrehan. Acadiana is my favorite this year by a very large margin. Very large. Depth everywhere and their junior and sopre classes are the best in public school 5A. I'm taking the crow out of the freezer to thaw, just in case.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2019 22:49:35 GMT -6
Zachary will not win state this year. Mark those words down. Remember then well. That will go to either Acadiana, West Monroe or Destrehan. Acadiana is my favorite this year by a very large margin. Very large. Depth everywhere and their junior and sopre classes are the best in public school 5A. I'm taking the crow out of the freezer to thaw, just in case. Zachary lost 2 interior defensive linemen that were very good in Bell and Jackson. Their replacements aren't world beaters, but serviceable. Undersized in the middle and McClure isn't playing football this year. Linebackers are going to be inexperienced and young. Receivers lost some talent in Davis, Whitfield and Simmons. Replacements aren't as good. I stand by that statement of them losing. Desteehan is loaded brother. Loaded. Eugene will be incredible early and often as a freshman. I expect him to win the starting job. Acadiana is just going to wreck shop and had a chance to win last year against Zachary at home in a close game in the 4th. They will be fastest defense in 5A. West Monroe returns their entire offensive line and the Fenceroy kid from Bastrop is one bad man. He will provide what Hamburg did last season. Defensively their back 7 will be very good for once in the last 10 years finally. Last year was Zachary year and hats off to them, but as of today I'm all in for one of the three I mentioned and they will separate as the year progresses once it begins. Acadiana looks incredible my man. I have family that graduated from there and they say the staff believes this is the year again and likely next two years as they are loaded.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 1:31:31 GMT -6
I'm taking the crow out of the freezer to thaw, just in case. Zachary lost 2 interior defensive linemen that were very good in Bell and Jackson. Their replacements aren't world beaters, but serviceable. Undersized in the middle and McClure isn't playing football this year. Linebackers are going to be inexperienced and young. Receivers lost some talent in Davis, Whitfield and Simmons. Replacements aren't as good. I stand by that statement of them losing. Desteehan is loaded brother. Loaded. Eugene will be incredible early and often as a freshman. I expect him to win the starting job. Acadiana is just going to wreck shop and had a chance to win last year against Zachary at home in a close game in the 4th. They will be fastest defense in 5A. West Monroe returns their entire offensive line and the Fenceroy kid from Bastrop is one bad man. He will provide what Hamburg did last season. Defensively their back 7 will be very good for once in the last 10 years finally. Last year was Zachary year and hats off to them, but as of today I'm all in for one of the three I mentioned and they will separate as the year progresses once it begins. Acadiana looks incredible my man. I have family that graduated from there and they say the staff believes this is the year again and likely next two years as they are loaded. I agree with the Destrehan pick. West Monroe will be good as always. Zachary has so many athletes it’s ridiculous. The Lafayette people say Acadiana is back. Should be a good year for 5A.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 4:12:18 GMT -6
Zachary lost 2 interior defensive linemen that were very good in Bell and Jackson. Their replacements aren't world beaters, but serviceable. Undersized in the middle and McClure isn't playing football this year. Linebackers are going to be inexperienced and young. Receivers lost some talent in Davis, Whitfield and Simmons. Replacements aren't as good. I stand by that statement of them losing. Desteehan is loaded brother. Loaded. Eugene will be incredible early and often as a freshman. I expect him to win the starting job. Acadiana is just going to wreck shop and had a chance to win last year against Zachary at home in a close game in the 4th. They will be fastest defense in 5A. West Monroe returns their entire offensive line and the Fenceroy kid from Bastrop is one bad man. He will provide what Hamburg did last season. Defensively their back 7 will be very good for once in the last 10 years finally. Last year was Zachary year and hats off to them, but as of today I'm all in for one of the three I mentioned and they will separate as the year progresses once it begins. Acadiana looks incredible my man. I have family that graduated from there and they say the staff believes this is the year again and likely next two years as they are loaded. I agree with the Destrehan pick. West Monroe will be good as always. Zachary has so many athletes it’s ridiculous. The Lafayette people say Acadiana is back. Should be a good year for 5A. The sleeper team this year is East St John. The new coach has had 1 or two years now with the team. They have some really good young talent and all they need is another great coach. They should be a sleeper to watch out for.
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Post by icemanparsons on Jun 2, 2019 7:35:43 GMT -6
Seems they're better than good Zachary will not win state this year. Mark those words down. Remember then well. That will go to either Acadiana, West Monroe or Destrehan. Acadiana is my favorite this year by a very large margin. Very large. Depth everywhere and their junior and sopre classes are the best in public school 5A. West Monroe hasn't fared well against Desty and Acadiana in the finals in past title games unless I'm wrong
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Post by WM on Jun 2, 2019 12:26:37 GMT -6
Zachary will not win state this year. Mark those words down. Remember then well. That will go to either Acadiana, West Monroe or Destrehan. Acadiana is my favorite this year by a very large margin. Very large. Depth everywhere and their junior and sopre classes are the best in public school 5A. West Monroe hasn't fared well against Desty and Acadiana in the finals in past title games unless I'm wrong I believe West Monroe is 3-2 against both in the playoffs. And I know 1-1 against both in title games. Beat Destrehan in the title game in 1993 lost to Destrehan in 2008. Beat Acadiana in the 2005 title game and lost to Acadiana in 2010.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 13:53:42 GMT -6
From my recollection, since 1993 WM is 4-4 against both Acadiana and Destrehan.
agains Acadiana wins in 2005 and 2012; losses in 2007 and 2010.
Destrehan wins in 1993 (where it all began) And 2005; losses in 2008 and 2014.
That is my recollection. Before 1993 I do not have any idea.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 2, 2019 14:25:35 GMT -6
I was listening to some coaches talk about Zachary, the infrastructure in that are, and the overall growth and development in that area, and they seem to think that we might be on the verge of another Louisiana football powerhouse and eventual dynasty. I’m not sure if Zachary, like other teams from time to time, is simply having good run with a good group of kids, or if they are building something special there. I do see the potential for massive growth and and subsequent population boom in that area, and the eventual pipeline of football talent into the area. Catholic BR and UHigh might be in trouble. maybe, but Zachary will still always be at the disadvantage that Catholic and whoever can get their kids, and they can't as easily get the kids from other parts of BR
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Post by icemanparsons on Jun 2, 2019 17:59:03 GMT -6
From my recollection, since 1993 WM is 4-4 against both Acadiana and Destrehan. agains Acadiana wins in 2005 and 2012; losses in 2007 and 2010. Destrehan wins in 1993 (where it all began) And 2005; losses in 2008 and 2014. That is my recollection. Before 1993 I do not have any idea. didnt WM beat Acadiana in the 1977 4A semifinals
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Post by icemanparsons on Jun 2, 2019 18:00:23 GMT -6
West Monroe hasn't fared well against Desty and Acadiana in the finals in past title games unless I'm wrong I believe West Monroe is 3-2 against both in the playoffs. And I know 1-1 against both in title games. Beat Destrehan in the title game in 1993 lost to Destrehan in 2008. Beat Acadiana in the 2005 title game and lost to Acadiana in 2010. In West Monroe terms 3-2 might be as not fared well. You know they dominated everyone they've played since 1991.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 18:37:16 GMT -6
From my recollection, since 1993 WM is 4-4 against both Acadiana and Destrehan. agains Acadiana wins in 2005 and 2012; losses in 2007 and 2010. Destrehan wins in 1993 (where it all began) And 2005; losses in 2008 and 2014. That is my recollection. Before 1993 I do not have any idea. didnt WM beat Acadiana in the 1977 4A semifinals I'm not sure, but I am going post-dynasty era until today. 4-4 is what I have. Destrehan has never travelled to WM for any game since WM has been a dynasty in 1993 onward. West Monroe has never travelled to Zachary or Acadiana either since both Acadiana and Zachary have become powers. Fun useless facts.
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Post by WM on Jun 2, 2019 21:42:32 GMT -6
didnt WM beat Acadiana in the 1977 4A semifinals I'm not sure, but I am going post-dynasty era until today. 4-4 is what I have. Destrehan has never travelled to WM for any game since WM has been a dynasty in 1993 onward. West Monroe has never travelled to Zachary or Acadiana either since both Acadiana and Zachary have become powers. Fun useless facts. West Monroe beat Acadiana at ULL in 2001 41-13 in the semis. Beat Acadiana again in the 2002 semis at West Monroe 21-7.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 21:59:29 GMT -6
I was listening to some coaches talk about Zachary, the infrastructure in that are, and the overall growth and development in that area, and they seem to think that we might be on the verge of another Louisiana football powerhouse and eventual dynasty. I’m not sure if Zachary, like other teams from time to time, is simply having good run with a good group of kids, or if they are building something special there. I do see the potential for massive growth and and subsequent population boom in that area, and the eventual pipeline of football talent into the area. Catholic BR and UHigh might be in trouble. maybe, but Zachary will still always be at the disadvantage that Catholic and whoever can get their kids, and they can't as easily get the kids from other parts of BR Zachary doesn’t have any problem getting kids from other parts of BR. Hell they got Lindsey Scott Jr from Ascension Parish 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2019 22:31:09 GMT -6
I'm not sure, but I am going post-dynasty era until today. 4-4 is what I have. Destrehan has never travelled to WM for any game since WM has been a dynasty in 1993 onward. West Monroe has never travelled to Zachary or Acadiana either since both Acadiana and Zachary have become powers. Fun useless facts. West Monroe beat Acadiana at ULL in 2001 41-13 in the semis. Beat Acadiana again in the 2002 semis at West Monroe 21-7. Well, I was pretty specific. Never played at Acadiana High School. I've been to Acadiana many times and it is a very very difficult environment to play in. So that means WM is 5-4 against Desty and Acadiana since 1993. Since Acadiana was a good program they are 2-2 in my book. Acadiana was not any good in 2001.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2019 5:12:02 GMT -6
I'll add that Zachary has also lost Jadarrion Davis's (TE last season #85) little brother Jalen Bolden who would be a sopre who is around 6'2 200 to basketball and won't be playing football.
They have lost some talent this year and some are leaving already.
I see the light at the end of the tunnel for the Broncos in the next two years.
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Post by terribleturk on Jun 6, 2019 13:56:24 GMT -6
From my recollection, since 1993 WM is 4-4 against both Acadiana and Destrehan. agains Acadiana wins in 2005 and 2012; losses in 2007 and 2010. Destrehan wins in 1993 (where it all began) And 2005; losses in 2008 and 2014. That is my recollection. Before 1993 I do not have any idea. didnt WM beat Acadiana in the 1977 4A semifinals Bonnabel High beat Acadiana in that 1977 semi final game 27-7.Acadiana then went on a long drought of not making it past the quarter finals until that 2001 semi lost to West Monroe.
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