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Post by Sixpack on Jun 7, 2019 11:22:39 GMT -6
Ray says 7 on 7 competition is TOTALLY useless. But wait. Ray sys 7 on 7 competition is helpful for timing and for helping the competitors stay in shape. If 7 on 7 competition helps timing and helps the competitors stay in shape how can 7 on 7 competition be TOTALLY useless? It seems Ray has contradicted himself. But Ray can't seem to find the moral character to admit it. I have spent the last few days reading about a dozen of his posts where he tries to change the subject and make up silly unrelated analogies trying to squirm out of the fact that he contracted himself. The reason that is important is because it shows a lack of character.
Here's another chance to show whether he has any character or whether he is just an empty suit who can't admit when he is wrong. I am betting he will run from the questions again. Let's see.
Ray:
(1)You claim 7 on 7 competition is TOTALLY useless.
(2)You also said 7 on 7 competition helps the competitors timing. (Your words, "Timing is one thing. I can see where that can be helpful, for sure.")
(3) You also said 7 on 7 competition helps the competitors stay in shape. (Your words, "I do think you make a good point in stating that it will help kids stay in shape. No doubt about that."
Question 1...Ray did you contradict yourself when you said 7 on 7's are TOTALLY useless? (Yes or no) Question 2...If you did contradict yourself why do you keep saying you did not contradict yourself?
Do you have the moral character to answer those questions in a direct way or will you just hem and haw, change the subject, attack me personally and run from the questions again just like you have been doing very day for the last week.
Watch Ray run.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 7, 2019 11:29:52 GMT -6
Sorry for the large print. Settings got messed up and I didn't see it until it was too late to edit.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 7, 2019 11:40:34 GMT -6
So a new thread was needed for you two to continue this useless back and forth?
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Post by fanman on Jun 7, 2019 11:57:35 GMT -6
I am going to watch soccer and hope football starts soon.
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Post by iamray on Jun 7, 2019 16:18:56 GMT -6
This is ridiculous. You want to be right so bad you create a brand new thread and use the largest font you could find. And don't say it was an accident, that is nothing more than you trying to excuse what you did (sound familiar )This is pathetic. Of course you finally start a thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with football. You're an egotistical exhibitionist. In no way was a new thread needed. The only reason you did this was to seek attention. These other guys are right; our back and forth is useless. I've explained myself in the original thread. You are only posting one sentence and won't post what I wrote immediately after that. These people don't care for your antics. People want to discuss and argue about football, both of which you avoid. Since you are scared to post the phrase in question in its entirety, I'll do it for you: "Timing is one thing. I can see where that can be helpful, for sure. I think they could just stay after practice and work on timing. But that timing is going to be much different when the quarterback is facing a pass rush." I'm clearly being nice to the guy in acknowledging his input and then offering my opinion on timing. You simply refuse to believe the truth. I can do no more than give you the truth which you just want to shout down. I'll assume you agree with me on 7v7's since you have repeatedly dodged addressing that point. I'm starting to think you are obsessed with me. I've got you so hot under the collar that you decided to make an entire thread just to try and call me out. I will assume you are my biggest fan as you are the only poster who has dedicated an entire thread solely to me. Thanks for the attention and love. Tell me where to send the autograph.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 7, 2019 17:19:30 GMT -6
This is ridiculous. You want to be right so bad you create a brand new thread and use the largest font you could find. And don't say it was an accident, that is nothing more than you trying to excuse what you did (sound familiar )This is pathetic. Of course you finally start a thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with football. You're an egotistical exhibitionist. In no way was a new thread needed. The only reason you did this was to seek attention. These other guys are right; our back and forth is useless. I've explained myself in the original thread. You are only posting one sentence and won't post what I wrote immediately after that. These people don't care for your antics. People want to discuss and argue about football, both of which you avoid. Since you are scared to post the phrase in question in its entirety, I'll do it for you: "Timing is one thing. I can see where that can be helpful, for sure. I think they could just stay after practice and work on timing. But that timing is going to be much different when the quarterback is facing a pass rush." I'm clearly being nice to the guy in acknowledging his input and then offering my opinion on timing. You simply refuse to believe the truth. I can do no more than give you the truth which you just want to shout down. I'll assume you agree with me on 7v7's since you have repeatedly dodged addressing that point. I'm starting to think you are obsessed with me. I've got you so hot under the collar that you decided to make an entire thread just to try and call me out. I will assume you are my biggest fan as you are the only poster who has dedicated an entire thread solely to me. Thanks for the attention and love. Tell me where to send the autograph. LOL! I knew you didn't have the character to admit you contradicted yourself. You did exactly what I said you would do. You changed the subject from the question I asked to the size of the font, then you launched a one paragraph personal attack against me then you hemmed and hawed with some nonsense about being a fan of yours and then you RAN from the question I asked. You are an empty suit. You are as transparent as air because air is all you have.
What difference do you think it makes for you to say timing is different in a real game. So what? That doesn't change the fact that you said timing FOR SURE can be helped in 7 on 7's. And that is a direct contradiction to your claim that 7 on 7's are TOTALLY useless.
You can't admit your mistake because you don't have the character. If you had any principles you would explain that although 7 on 7's can not simulate a real game experiences they do have some value in improving timing and helping kids stay in shape. You can't do that because only someone with principles can admit they were wrong You are of no further use to me. I have exposed your lack of character for everyone to see.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 7, 2019 17:51:46 GMT -6
This is just a short note to apologize to Ray.
I have gone back and forth with him before and I know he has character and principles. Sometimes I get a little carried away when I get in a debate and go a little overboard. He is wrong in refusing to admit he contradicted himself but he is not unprincipled.
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Post by iamray on Jun 7, 2019 19:13:10 GMT -6
This is ridiculous. You want to be right so bad you create a brand new thread and use the largest font you could find. And don't say it was an accident, that is nothing more than you trying to excuse what you did (sound familiar )This is pathetic. Of course you finally start a thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with football. You're an egotistical exhibitionist. In no way was a new thread needed. The only reason you did this was to seek attention. These other guys are right; our back and forth is useless. I've explained myself in the original thread. You are only posting one sentence and won't post what I wrote immediately after that. These people don't care for your antics. People want to discuss and argue about football, both of which you avoid. Since you are scared to post the phrase in question in its entirety, I'll do it for you: "Timing is one thing. I can see where that can be helpful, for sure. I think they could just stay after practice and work on timing. But that timing is going to be much different when the quarterback is facing a pass rush." I'm clearly being nice to the guy in acknowledging his input and then offering my opinion on timing. You simply refuse to believe the truth. I can do no more than give you the truth which you just want to shout down. I'll assume you agree with me on 7v7's since you have repeatedly dodged addressing that point. I'm starting to think you are obsessed with me. I've got you so hot under the collar that you decided to make an entire thread just to try and call me out. I will assume you are my biggest fan as you are the only poster who has dedicated an entire thread solely to me. Thanks for the attention and love. Tell me where to send the autograph. LOL! I knew you didn't have the character to admit you contradicted yourself. You did exactly what I said you would do. You changed the subject from the question I asked to the size of the font, then you launched a one paragraph personal attack against me then you hemmed and hawed with some nonsense about being a fan of yours and then you RAN from the question I asked. You are an empty suit. You are as transparent as air because air is all you have.
What difference do you think it makes for you to say timing is different in a real game. So what? That doesn't change the fact that you said timing FOR SURE can be helped in 7 on 7's. And that is a direct contradiction to your claim that 7 on 7's are TOTALLY useless.
You can't admit your mistake because you don't have the character. If you had any principles you would explain that although 7 on 7's can not simulate a real game experiences they do have some value in improving timing and helping kids stay in shape. You can't do that because only someone with principles can admit they were wrong You are of no further use to me. I have exposed your lack of character for everyone to see. "You are as transparent as air because air is all you have." What does this even mean? Man, take a step back and look at the vitriol you've poured into this nonsense. It isn't even about football. You just want to prove that you think I made a mistake with a phrase. Are you ok? Over 2,000 words from you now ALL about how you think I made a mistake with one of my statements. You're unreal."What difference do you think it makes for you to say timing is different in a real game. So what?"It shows that I think timing isn't something that can be improved because the timing in 7v7 is completely different than a real game where a QB will face pressure. What the hell do you mean so what? I'm not going to go over this again. You don't believe me. Kick rocks."You can't admit your mistake because you don't have the character."Are you for real? I don't have character because you don't believe something I said on a high school message board? You obviously evaluate your own character based on how you interact with us here. That's weird, man. Why else would you say I lack character? I mean, this site is your moral compass and judgement hall. Don't attack my character. This is exactly the arrogance I mentioned. " If you had any principles you would explain that although 7 on 7's can not simulate a real game experiences they do have some value in improving timing and helping kids stay in shape."Exhibit B: how this board is your method for evaluating character and principle among others. Are you serious? If I had ANY principles, I would admit to a mistake you think I made on a message board. This is getting out of hand with you."You can't do that because only someone with principles can admit they were wrong"Now I don't feel bad for calling you a jerk. This is so lame to say I don't have principle simply because you think you're right and I'm wrong ABOUT A STATEMENT ON 7V7 FOOTBALL FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!"You are of no further use to me"Again, the arrogance. Who the hell are you? You used me? For what? You really think a lot of yourself. You really, really do. What did you "use" me for, dictator bluestar? You've made an butt out of yourself. Starting a brand new thread, using obnoxiously large font; all just to try and call me out in front of people who couldn't care less about our little diatribe."I have exposed your lack of character for everyone to see."I called you an exhibitionist earlier and this statement right here proves it. You don't care about anything other than the attention you think you garner from trying to point out mistakes you think others have made. According to you, I have no character or principles all because you think I contradicted myself with a statement on 7v7 football. That is so asininely stupid that I cannot entirely believe it is even true. But you've always been this way on this board.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 7, 2019 19:45:37 GMT -6
O.K., I take back my apology.
Ray is unprincipled, devoid of character and afraid to admit he contradicted himself. I caught him obviously contradicting himself and exposed his hypocrisy and instead of admitting his shortcomings all he can do is make up nonsense about me. He is weak. Talking to him is like talking to a child.
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Post by fanman on Jun 8, 2019 6:16:35 GMT -6
you May not like Rays comments that is fine. But imo it is wrong for the attacks on his character. We all have opinions and most of us have given and taken heat for our comments. I believe we actually know very little about the character integrity of those that post here. I believe an apology should be offered up to Ray. He may not get it but imo he should
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 8, 2019 8:37:32 GMT -6
you May not like Rays comments that is fine. But imo it is wrong for the attacks on his character. We all have opinions and most of us have given and taken heat for our comments. I believe we actually know very little about the character integrity of those that post here. I believe an apology should be offered up to Ray. He may not get it but imo he should Are you blind? Did you not see where I offered him an apology? And even after I did he refused to answer my question. He simply came back and attacked me personally like he always does. He is an EMPTY SUIT.
Only an EMPTY SUIT would be AFRAID to answer a simple yes or no question with a yes or a no. A person with character would step up to the plate and answer YES or NO. He can't do it.
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Post by whistler on Jun 8, 2019 9:36:43 GMT -6
Are you really making a federal case over whether someone said 7 on 7 is useless or not?
This feels a lot like my 4 year old having a toddler meltdown over whether her sandwich got sliced in rectangles or triangles.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 8, 2019 10:16:17 GMT -6
Are you really making a federal case over whether someone said 7 on 7 is useless or not? This feels a lot like my 4 year old having a toddler meltdown over whether her sandwich got sliced in rectangles or triangles. I'm not making a federal case out of anything. I am simply asking Ray to answer a simple yes or no question. Ray is making a federal case out of it by trying to avoid answering the question.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 8, 2019 10:59:52 GMT -6
Are you really making a federal case over whether someone said 7 on 7 is useless or not? This feels a lot like my 4 year old having a toddler meltdown over whether her sandwich got sliced in rectangles or triangles. I'm not making a federal case out of anything.ย I am simply asking Ray to answer a simple yes or no question.ย Ray is making a federal case out of it by trying to avoid answering the question.Do you realize how petty this is? What youโre saying is that youโre going to keep typing novels, saying the same thing over and over, and now in multiple threads, just because you want another grown man to agree with you? Or to say he was wrong? Jeez dude. Find a hobby.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 8, 2019 11:53:21 GMT -6
I'm not making a federal case out of anything. I am simply asking Ray to answer a simple yes or no question. Ray is making a federal case out of it by trying to avoid answering the question. Do you realize how petty this is? What youโre saying is that youโre going to keep typing novels, saying the same thing over and over, and now in multiple threads, just because you want another grown man to agree with you? Or to say he was wrong? Jeez dude. Find a hobby. How would you know I am typing novels or typing the same thing over and over in multiple threads unless you are reading everything I write. If you are reading everything I write its' because you choose to read it. Nobody is forcing you to read what I write. If you don't like what I am saying don't click on my posts.
When someone is wrong they should admit they are wrong. If you don't believe that maybe you should examine your own standards instead of questioning mine.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 8, 2019 12:10:46 GMT -6
Do you realize how petty this is? What youโre saying is that youโre going to keep typing novels, saying the same thing over and over, and now in multiple threads, just because you want another grown man to agree with you? Or to say he was wrong? Jeez dude. Find a hobby. How would you know I am typing novels or typing the same thing over and over in multiple threads unless you are reading everything I write.ย If you are reading everything I write its' because you choose to read it.ย Nobody is forcing you to read what I write.ย If you don't like what I am saying don't click on my posts.ย
When someone is wrong they should admit they are wrong.ย If you don't believe that maybe you should examine your own standards instead of questioning mine.ย ๐ Ok man. I like to read discussions about Louisiana high school sports so I read all of the threads. Unfortunately, your never ending crusade is mixed in with that. I hope you get your little message board apology or whatever it is that will make you feel better.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 8, 2019 12:32:41 GMT -6
How would you know I am typing novels or typing the same thing over and over in multiple threads unless you are reading everything I write. If you are reading everything I write its' because you choose to read it. Nobody is forcing you to read what I write. If you don't like what I am saying don't click on my posts.
When someone is wrong they should admit they are wrong. If you don't believe that maybe you should examine your own standards instead of questioning mine. ๐ Ok man. I like to read discussions about Louisiana high school sports so I read all of the threads. Unfortunately, your never ending crusade is mixed in with that. I hope you get your little message board apology or whatever it is that will make you feel better. Let me see if I can help you. Next time you are reading "all the threads" and you find one is getting too long for you just stop reading it.
I too hope Ray will admit he contradicted himself about 7 on 7 competition but I don't think he will. That would takes character.
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Post by iamray on Jun 8, 2019 13:10:15 GMT -6
O.K., I take back my apology.
Ray is unprincipled, devoid of character and afraid to admit he contradicted himself. I caught him obviously contradicting himself and exposed his hypocrisy and instead of admitting his shortcomings all he can do is make up nonsense about me. He is weak. Talking to him is like talking to a child. Well this proves your "apology" was nothing more than a farce. You don't take back a real apology. You either mean it or you don't. If talking to me is like talking to a child, then arguing with me is like arguing with a child, right? Why do you continue to do it? Just leave it alone. I will never see eye-to-eye with you. Quit making yourself look foolish to everyone on here. And quit wasting this board's space with your "character crusade." Grow up and stop arguing with "children." Seriously, just leave it alone.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 8, 2019 15:13:58 GMT -6
O.K., I take back my apology.
Ray is unprincipled, devoid of character and afraid to admit he contradicted himself. I caught him obviously contradicting himself and exposed his hypocrisy and instead of admitting his shortcomings all he can do is make up nonsense about me. He is weak. Talking to him is like talking to a child. Well this proves your "apology" was nothing more than a farce. You don't take back a real apology. You either mean it or you don't. If talking to me is like talking to a child, then arguing with me is like arguing with a child, right? Why do you continue to do it? Just leave it alone. I will never see eye-to-eye with you. Quit making yourself look foolish to everyone on here. And quit wasting this board's space with your "character crusade." Grow up and stop arguing with "children." Seriously, just leave it alone. Hey Empty Suit Ray.
You want to stop wasting this board's space? OK. I know a very easy way to do that. Just answer the following yes or no question with a yes or a no.
If you run from the question again and just attack me personally or go into some unnecessary discussion about what you think is wrong with 7 on 7's then it will be YOU who is wasting board space, not me. Just answer with a yes or a no if you can find enough character to do it. I don't think you can.
QUESTION: Does 7 on 7 competition help the athletes who participate in the competition from the standpoint of timing and from the standpoint of staying in shape?
YES or NO. Don't start blabbering about something else. Answer the question.
Either....
YES (7 on 7 competition helps athletes from the standpoint of timing and from the standpoint of staying in shape)
OR
NO (7 on 7 competition does not help athletes from the standpoint of timing and from the standpoint of staying in shape)
Watch Ray Run!
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Post by knightly80 on Jun 8, 2019 17:50:27 GMT -6
Well this proves your "apology" was nothing more than a farce. You don't take back a real apology. You either mean it or you don't. If talking to me is like talking to a child, then arguing with me is like arguing with a child, right? Why do you continue to do it? Just leave it alone. I will never see eye-to-eye with you. Quit making yourself look foolish to everyone on here. And quit wasting this board's space with your "character crusade." Grow up and stop arguing with "children." Seriously, just leave it alone. Hey Empty Suit Ray.ย
You want to stop wasting this board's space?ย OK.ย I know a very easy way to do that.ย Just answer the following yes or no question with a yes or a no.
If you run from the question again and just attack me personally or go into some unnecessary discussion about what you think is wrong with 7 on 7's then it will be YOU who is wasting board space, not me. Just answer with a yes or a no if you can find enough character to do it.ย I don't think you can.
QUESTION: Does 7 on 7 competition help the athletes who participate in the competition from the standpoint of timing and from the standpoint of staying in shape? ย
YES or NO.ย Don't start blabbering about something else. Answer the question.
Either....
YES (7 on 7 competition helps athletes from the standpoint of timing and from the standpoint of staying in shape)
OR
NO (7 on 7 competition does not help athletes from the standpoint of timing and from the standpoint of staying in shape)
Watch Ray Run![ Wow, you are whack
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Post by iamray on Jun 10, 2019 14:46:00 GMT -6
Sorry for the large print. Settings got messed up and I didn't see it until it was too late to edit. You could literally edit this post right now. It is an outright lie to say it was โtoo lateโ to edit the post. Do you have the moral character and principle to admit you made a mistake???
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 15:30:37 GMT -6
This is ridiculous. You want to be right so bad you create a brand new thread and use the largest font you could find. And don't say it was an accident, that is nothing more than you trying to excuse what you did (sound familiar )This is pathetic. Of course you finally start a thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with football. You're an egotistical exhibitionist. In no way was a new thread needed. The only reason you did this was to seek attention. These other guys are right; our back and forth is useless. I've explained myself in the original thread. You are only posting one sentence and won't post what I wrote immediately after that. These people don't care for your antics. People want to discuss and argue about football, both of which you avoid. Since you are scared to post the phrase in question in its entirety, I'll do it for you: "Timing is one thing. I can see where that can be helpful, for sure. I think they could just stay after practice and work on timing. But that timing is going to be much different when the quarterback is facing a pass rush." I'm clearly being nice to the guy in acknowledging his input and then offering my opinion on timing. You simply refuse to believe the truth. I can do no more than give you the truth which you just want to shout down. I'll assume you agree with me on 7v7's since you have repeatedly dodged addressing that point. I'm starting to think you are obsessed with me. I've got you so hot under the collar that you decided to make an entire thread just to try and call me out. I will assume you are my biggest fan as you are the only poster who has dedicated an entire thread solely to me. Thanks for the attention and love. Tell me where to send the autograph. Please excuse Me Suxpack as his Evangel Eagles are losing their fizz and soon to be a forgotten memory.
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Post by iamray on Jun 10, 2019 16:20:31 GMT -6
This is ridiculous. You want to be right so bad you create a brand new thread and use the largest font you could find. And don't say it was an accident, that is nothing more than you trying to excuse what you did (sound familiar )This is pathetic. Of course you finally start a thread and it has absolutely nothing to do with football. You're an egotistical exhibitionist. In no way was a new thread needed. The only reason you did this was to seek attention. These other guys are right; our back and forth is useless. I've explained myself in the original thread. You are only posting one sentence and won't post what I wrote immediately after that. These people don't care for your antics. People want to discuss and argue about football, both of which you avoid. Since you are scared to post the phrase in question in its entirety, I'll do it for you: "Timing is one thing. I can see where that can be helpful, for sure. I think they could just stay after practice and work on timing. But that timing is going to be much different when the quarterback is facing a pass rush." I'm clearly being nice to the guy in acknowledging his input and then offering my opinion on timing. You simply refuse to believe the truth. I can do no more than give you the truth which you just want to shout down. I'll assume you agree with me on 7v7's since you have repeatedly dodged addressing that point. I'm starting to think you are obsessed with me. I've got you so hot under the collar that you decided to make an entire thread just to try and call me out. I will assume you are my biggest fan as you are the only poster who has dedicated an entire thread solely to me. Thanks for the attention and love. Tell me where to send the autograph. Please excuse Me Suxpack as his Evangel Eagles are losing their fizz and soon to be a forgotten memory. ๐๐๐
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 10, 2019 16:50:33 GMT -6
Please excuse Me Suxpack as his Evangel Eagles are losing their fizz and soon to be a forgotten memory. ๐๐๐ Evangel can lose a lot of fizz and still beat most of the teams in Louisiana.
Evangel will be competitive for a long time. But not as long as it takes Ray to find the character to admit he screwed up. That will take forever.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 10, 2019 17:05:03 GMT -6
Sorry for the large print. Settings got messed up and I didn't see it until it was too late to edit. You could literally edit this post right now. It is an outright lie to say it was โtoo lateโ to edit the post. Do you have the moral character and principle to admit you made a mistake??? I corrected my mistake. I made a mistake when I apologized to you. Then when you continued to refuse admitting that you contradicted yourself I realized you REALLY are lacking in character. So I withdrew the apology.
Let's test your character again. Maybe you have developed some character since yesterday but I doubt it. What's your answer to this question.
Is 7 on 7 competition useful in helping athletes develop their timing and stay in shape??
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Post by fanman on Jun 10, 2019 17:05:09 GMT -6
Obsession can be a terrible deterrent to clear thinking and peacefully living
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 10, 2019 17:11:34 GMT -6
Obsession can be a terrible deterrent to clear thinking and peacefully living Correct.
You would probably able to think more clearly and live more peacefully if you weren't so obsessed with what I say.
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Post by indy on Jun 10, 2019 17:28:46 GMT -6
Forget tarsus vs hare or coyote vs roadrunner. We now have hard vs dumb. My money is on iamdundumb. I can relate to a mistake or two or letting your passion control you sometimes. Arguing is fun, dealing with a righteous hard is not.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 17:30:39 GMT -6
Obsession can be a terrible deterrent to clear thinking and peacefully living Correct.ย
You would probably able to think more clearly and live more peacefully if you weren't so obsessed with what I say.So when WM disposes of Evangel come this season Neville, Ouachita, and West Monroe all will have owned the once mighty Eagles over the last decade. My have times changed. And do not talk about the past. This Evangel team is going to get rocked by WM.
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Post by Sixpack on Jun 10, 2019 17:41:51 GMT -6
Forget tarsus vs hare or coyote vs roadrunner. We now have hard vs dumb. My money is on iamdundumb. I can relate to a mistake or two or letting your passion control you sometimes. Arguing is fun, dealing with a righteous hard is not. You shouldn't call Ray a dumbass just because he can't find the character to admit he made a mistake.
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