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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2019 4:36:21 GMT -6
How date Indy say Kentwood was better than Lab and we dominated them the WHOLE game 😒😂😂😂😂 Slip of the tongue. I guess I bought into your sandbagging!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 15, 2019 10:00:03 GMT -6
To chalmette Yes you’re correct those teams have principals and coaches go Agreed it’s on school if they don’t wanna go But should a team be put at more of a financial disadvantage From a logistical point of view practice should be day before you play well the split has kind of nuked that...
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Post by indy on Jun 15, 2019 10:07:33 GMT -6
What are you referring too?
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 15, 2019 10:22:06 GMT -6
Teams get two days in the Dome, their practice and then the game that weekend. If a team doesn't want to take the practice day it's on them. I'm pretty sure the coaches of every team in the Dome and maybe the principals too have a meeting in BR It is easy for people who live in Southeast LA to say "if they don't want to practice, that's on them". I don't think it would take much of a mental stretch to envision how some schools within a short drive to NOLA would feel if they had to face a yearly trip to Independence Stadium though. that is a good problem to have...
from a football standpoint, though, the time in the Dome isn't enough. it's more of a "wow, cool" thing for the kids. they're too distracted to concentrate on what you need to for a state championship game walkthrough
if i were a coach, i'd take my time in the Dome, do the pictures, get the kids something to eat, tour NOLA if the team is from far away, then go to a local playground for the real walkthrough or wait till we get back to school
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Post by indy on Jun 15, 2019 10:23:44 GMT -6
How would you pay for the multiple trips?
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 15, 2019 10:29:56 GMT -6
What are you referring too? "practice should be the day before you play"
well you can't in the Dome if you play Friday or Saturday that week
nonselects have shorter practice time as it is. why waste a day of travel
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Post by indy on Jun 15, 2019 10:40:03 GMT -6
Like I’ve said before it’s a part of the experience
Obviously you’ve never been a part of the that
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Post by retired on Jun 15, 2019 11:01:23 GMT -6
It is easy for people who live in Southeast LA to say "if they don't want to practice, that's on them". I don't think it would take much of a mental stretch to envision how some schools within a short drive to NOLA would feel if they had to face a yearly trip to Independence Stadium though. that is a good problem to have...
from a football standpoint, though, the time in the Dome isn't enough. it's more of a "wow, cool" thing for the kids. they're too distracted to concentrate on what you need to for a state championship game walkthrough
if i were a coach, i'd take my time in the Dome, do the pictures, get the kids something to eat, tour NOLA if the team is from far away, then go to a local playground for the real walkthrough or wait till we get back to school
I figured it was a given that everyone knew it was not a "real practice" but rather an acclimation period. That said, generally the hay is already in the barn for those type of practices (unless you subscribe to the Chip Kelly practice schedule) from week 1- week 14 either. Plus, for teams that made it to week 15, the "practice" part doesn't really matter.
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Post by indy on Jun 15, 2019 11:15:21 GMT -6
That acclimation matters
Very different negotiating catching the ball in the lights
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 15, 2019 11:15:47 GMT -6
Like I’ve said before it’s a part of the experience Obviously you’ve never been a part of the that nope, never have. Thanks Lutcher!
i also think it's overkill to have teams traveling 5+ hours for playoff games and missing school for them before the quarterfinals or so
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Post by indy on Jun 15, 2019 11:17:37 GMT -6
They kept us out in 2006
And beat us in New Orleans in 2003 and 2008
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Post by retired on Jun 15, 2019 11:19:51 GMT -6
That acclimation matters Very different negotiating catching the ball in the lights Yes, that acclimation matters. But the "practice" not so much... meaning it is important to get the kids IN THE DOME..and doing specials and throwing/catching/tracking the ball. It is NOT the same as having a standard pregame "practice" offsite as others suggested. Definitely would not be a good thing to miss their practice time, but not because the team needs its standard pregame practice it has run weeks 1-14 Make any sense?
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 15, 2019 11:24:55 GMT -6
That acclimation matters Very different negotiating catching the ball in the lights Yes, that acclimation matters. But the "practice" not so much... meaning it is important to get the kids IN THE DOME..and doing specials and throwing/catching/tracking the ball. It is NOT the same as having a "practice" offsite as others suggested. Definitely would not be a good thing to miss their practice time, but not because of "the practice" Make any sense? this is how we did it when we had Coach Salt and Coach Collins was the head coach
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, full practices, maybe a freshman game on Wednesday
Thursday walkthrough-middle school game-paint the field
Friday game
Saturday recovery/JV game
i don't remember how we did it when the game was Thursday or Saturday
this was 15-20 years ago now. i imagine there isn't as much contact overall, and Wednesdays might be lighter nowadays. if you're in the Dome kids will be pretty beat up by then
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Post by billpayor on Jun 16, 2019 9:44:32 GMT -6
The easiest solution to dealing with perennial powerhouses is to move them up a level based on multi-year success (playing in the dome regardless of end result) patterned on the travel ball category system (AA, AAA, Majors). Let each team rise or fall every 2 yrs and everyone will end up where they belong. Some teams will rise all the way to 5A, even though their enrollment indicates they're a 2A or 3A school. This isn't rocket science and the wheel has already been invented. With this format recruiting becomes null/void, at least with respect to their current classification.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 16, 2019 10:31:08 GMT -6
The easiest solution to dealing with perennial powerhouses is to move them up a level based on multi-year success (playing in the dome regardless of end result) patterned on the travel ball category system (AA, AAA, Majors). Let each team rise or fall every 2 yrs and everyone will end up where they belong. Some teams will rise all the way to 5A, even though their enrollment indicates they're a 2A or 3A school. This isn't rocket science and the wheel has already been invented. With this format recruiting becomes null/void, at least with respect to their current classification. The problem with that is...let’s say a 2A (borderline 1A) school has consecutive classes loaded with players but nothing in the following grades. They go to the dome back to back years and the school is forced into 3A. Those 2 loaded classes are gone, and what’s left is weak, and now may have 1A enrollment, but is forced to play a 3A schedule because a bunch of kids who are no longer there were successful. Are we supposed to punish kids who had little to do with their school making two straight trips to the dome by making them get their skulls crushed in for their junior and senior years? Sports were a whole lot better when there was good teams and the others wanted to beat them, instead of people wanting to punish success so everyone gets a fair chance. Sickening.
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 10:40:22 GMT -6
Agreed!
Sports is about competition not proving the Peter Principle
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Post by thedomeranger on Jun 16, 2019 10:42:16 GMT -6
The easiest solution to dealing with perennial powerhouses is to move them up a level based on multi-year success (playing in the dome regardless of end result) patterned on the travel ball category system (AA, AAA, Majors). Let each team rise or fall every 2 yrs and everyone will end up where they belong. Some teams will rise all the way to 5A, even though their enrollment indicates they're a 2A or 3A school. This isn't rocket science and the wheel has already been invented. With this format recruiting becomes null/void, at least with respect to their current classification. The problem with that is...let’s say a 2A (borderline 1A) school has consecutive classes loaded with players but nothing in the following grades. They go to the dome back to back years and the school is forced into 3A. Those 2 loaded classes are gone, and what’s left is weak, and now may have 1A enrollment, but is forced to play a 3A schedule because a bunch of kids who are no longer there were successful. Are we supposed to punish kids who had little to do with their school making two straight trips to the dome by making them get their skulls crushed in for their junior and senior years? Sports were a whole lot better when there was good teams and the others wanted to beat them, instead of people wanting to punish success so everyone gets a fair chance. Sickening. I think you nailed the conundrum here. It would require more than a look at consecutive championship seasons. It would also require an assessment of athletes on the team and the timeframe they were there. Serendipity plays into a 2-4 year run and can simply be the result of a particular group of kids. If you get a few big hard working trench players who may not be all state or d1 caliber combined with 3 or 4 D1 caliber skill guys, you may make a significant run for 3-4 years and even win it all, particularly in the lower 2 levels. It’s hard to be fair to everybody in these situations but if you’re not careful you start penalizing people for hard work and outstanding performance in the name of fairness. Not good, IMO
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 10:43:38 GMT -6
The easiest solution to dealing with perennial powerhouses is to move them up a level based on multi-year success (playing in the dome regardless of end result) patterned on the travel ball category system (AA, AAA, Majors). Let each team rise or fall every 2 yrs and everyone will end up where they belong. Some teams will rise all the way to 5A, even though their enrollment indicates they're a 2A or 3A school. This isn't rocket science and the wheel has already been invented. With this format recruiting becomes null/void, at least with respect to their current classification. The problem with that is...let’s say a 2A (borderline 1A) school has consecutive classes loaded with players but nothing in the following grades. They go to the dome back to back years and the school is forced into 3A. Those 2 loaded classes are gone, and what’s left is weak, and now may have 1A enrollment, but is forced to play a 3A schedule because a bunch of kids who are no longer there were successful. Are we supposed to punish kids who had little to do with their school making two straight trips to the dome by making them get their skulls crushed in for their junior and senior years? Sports were a whole lot better when there was good teams and the others wanted to beat them, instead of people wanting to punish success so everyone gets a fair chance. Sickening. you are punishing small 3A private schools by forcing them play large 4A schools. Sickening
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jun 16, 2019 10:56:11 GMT -6
The problem with that is...let’s say a 2A (borderline 1A) school has consecutive classes loaded with players but nothing in the following grades. They go to the dome back to back years and the school is forced into 3A. Those 2 loaded classes are gone, and what’s left is weak, and now may have 1A enrollment, but is forced to play a 3A schedule because a bunch of kids who are no longer there were successful. Are we supposed to punish kids who had little to do with their school making two straight trips to the dome by making them get their skulls crushed in for their junior and senior years? Sports were a whole lot better when there was good teams and the others wanted to beat them, instead of people wanting to punish success so everyone gets a fair chance. Sickening. you are punishing small 3A private schools by forcing them play large 4A schools. Sickening Agreed. That...in my opinion...is the absolute worst part of the split. And there are many bad parts to choose from.
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Post by retired on Jun 16, 2019 11:38:46 GMT -6
The easiest solution to dealing with perennial powerhouses is to move them up a level based on multi-year success (playing in the dome regardless of end result) patterned on the travel ball category system (AA, AAA, Majors). Let each team rise or fall every 2 yrs and everyone will end up where they belong. Some teams will rise all the way to 5A, even though their enrollment indicates they're a 2A or 3A school. This isn't rocket science and the wheel has already been invented. With this format recruiting becomes null/void, at least with respect to their current classification. No, I hate the idea of relegation/ promotion. As others have commented, "the norm" is to have a good run of kids, make a playoff run, have a special season or two..and then fall back down. Why compound that fall with a move up? Not to mention the logistical issue of timing. Will you promote/relegate every year? Every two years? How willthe promotion/relegation schedule mesh with the reclassification / redistricting schedule? What if a school's back to back appearances overlap cycles? (ie. occur in the last year of one cycle and the first year of another) but they go .500 the 2nd year of that cycle? Sometimes a school's ceiling might be that it is one of the top schools in their class, but not in the class above it. Is that something that needs to be corrected?
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 17, 2019 8:54:10 GMT -6
The easiest solution to dealing with perennial powerhouses is to move them up a level based on multi-year success (playing in the dome regardless of end result) patterned on the travel ball category system (AA, AAA, Majors). Let each team rise or fall every 2 yrs and everyone will end up where they belong. Some teams will rise all the way to 5A, even though their enrollment indicates they're a 2A or 3A school. This isn't rocket science and the wheel has already been invented. With this format recruiting becomes null/void, at least with respect to their current classification. No, I hate the idea of relegation/ promotion. As others have commented, "the norm" is to have a good run of kids, make a playoff run, have a special season or two..and then fall back down. Why compound that fall with a move up? Not to mention the logistical issue of timing. Will you promote/relegate every year? Every two years? How willthe promotion/relegation schedule mesh with the reclassification / redistricting schedule? What if a school's back to back appearances overlap cycles? (ie. occur in the last year of one cycle and the first year of another) but they go .500 the 2nd year of that cycle? Sometimes a school's ceiling might be that it is one of the top schools in their class, but not in the class above it. Is that something that needs to be corrected? also it isn't promotion and relegation if you can choose to do it...
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Post by retired on Jun 17, 2019 8:58:58 GMT -6
No, I hate the idea of relegation/ promotion. As others have commented, "the norm" is to have a good run of kids, make a playoff run, have a special season or two..and then fall back down. Why compound that fall with a move up? Not to mention the logistical issue of timing. Will you promote/relegate every year? Every two years? How willthe promotion/relegation schedule mesh with the reclassification / redistricting schedule? What if a school's back to back appearances overlap cycles? (ie. occur in the last year of one cycle and the first year of another) but they go .500 the 2nd year of that cycle? Sometimes a school's ceiling might be that it is one of the top schools in their class, but not in the class above it. Is that something that needs to be corrected? also it isn't promotion and relegation if you can choose to do it... Playing up in class, and what is suggested here (and elsewhere regarding promotion and relegation) are two entirely different things.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 27, 2019 11:53:04 GMT -6
My 2 cents worth of thought on how to fix it. End the split
There needs to be a new definition on competition. We have schools that will never ever be championship quality in any class and will never compete successfully. They still want to provide the opportunity for athletics but do not put the time and effort into becoming a State Champion caliber team. They don't have the time, personnel, resources, support nor the money. They feel abused and exist in both the public an the private sector. While others are driven and successful make it a priority and champion being a champion.
Reclassify the schools into Two Divisions. Championship Series (CS) and Non Championship Series (NCS) Schools. Non Championship Series school may play all sports but will not compete against Championship Series Schools in any way athletically.
NCS Schools will declare this intention to be NCS. They will be restricted to only athletes from their "HOME ZONE" as defined by the local school board. Any student from outside that zone is ineligible for participation at that school. New Students who move into the zone may be eligible. There are no playoffs of championship with only individual honor for exemplar performance and or character of the player. Play for the fun of the sport without the pressure of winning.
Championship Series Schools also must declare this intention to be CS. They will participate in a highly competitive open enrollment. There will be strict rules over transfers that require a move of more than 50 from original home school district. Each school will be given a 50 mile circle of recruitment from which athletes may come. No student from outside that district is eligible for athletic participation although they may attend the school. Transfers must prove residence within zone. Students may transfer to and from any school with in a district provided it is not in the same classification. Example, 5A Evangel player could not transfer to 5A Captain Shreve, but he could transfer to 3A Calvary Baptist or visa versa and be immediately eligible. Any transfer to a same classification school requires a mandatory 2 full Calendar year ineligibility for all sports. Transfer due to family moves that are legitimate for the work parents must prove to be true moves with the whole family moving together with all siblings attending an in district school.
Classifications: (5 classifications) Supers class: The largest schools in the state, those with size of 1500 students or more any smaller schools that choose to play up to the Supers classification with some mandatory requirements for certain schools. All current private 5A schools are mandatory Supers as well as 4A multi year State champions in 4A.
4A: All schools from 1,499 to 950 both public and private. If a school has 2 or more State championships in 4A they must move up to Super. 3A: All schools from 849 to 600. If a School has 2 or more State Championships in 3A they must move up to 4A 2A: All Schools from 599 to 200. If a School has 2 or more State Championships in 2A they must move up to 3A 1A: All Schools 199 and smaller football and non football. Any schools with 2 or more State Championships in 1A must move up go 2A.
Reclassifications will occur every 5 years. Schools that are consolidated will immediately be reclassified for the opening school year. Multi year schedule contracts are allowed. There are no sub districts, each school must participate in a minimum of 6 in class games or they will be ineligible for the playoffs. Schools may ban together to form leagues such as the Catholic League in NOLA and each League may choose and regulate it's own members and they may declare a league champion. But, Only in class games are used for power ratings eliminated the play up bump which is easily manipulated for a higher rating.
Playoffs. Once the season is over playoff brackets of 16 will be established and playoffs games are to commence after a bye week. During the Bye week the number next 4 best power rated teams numbers 17,18, 19 and 20 will play a bowl game with team selection draws to pit regions against region as consolation game championship. If all teams come from same region they will be drawn from a hat. Two Bowel Games, per class.
Non Championship Series schools are non compete programs there is no need for classification. Play whoever you want who is willing. No size splits no districts, no required number of games. If you want to establish leagues you may, but there is no bowl games or championship games allowed.
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Post by indy on Jun 28, 2019 11:55:26 GMT -6
I like the idea of the two separate leagues
The other league could have optional summer workouts too
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Post by wildcat on Jun 28, 2019 14:25:56 GMT -6
My 2 cents worth of thought on how to fix it. End the split There needs to be a new definition on competition. We have schools that will never ever be championship quality in any class and will never compete successfully. They still want to provide the opportunity for athletics but do not put the time and effort into becoming a State Champion caliber team. They don't have the time, personnel, resources, support nor the money. They feel abused and exist in both the public an the private sector. While others are driven and successful make it a priority and champion being a champion. Reclassify the schools into Two Divisions. Championship Series (CS) and Non Championship Series (NCS) Schools. Non Championship Series school may play all sports but will not compete against Championship Series Schools in any way athletically. NCS Schools will declare this intention to be NCS. They will be restricted to only athletes from their "HOME ZONE" as defined by the local school board. Any student from outside that zone is ineligible for participation at that school. New Students who move into the zone may be eligible. There are no playoffs of championship with only individual honor for exemplar performance and or character of the player. Play for the fun of the sport without the pressure of winning. Championship Series Schools also must declare this intention to be CS. They will participate in a highly competitive open enrollment. There will be strict rules over transfers that require a move of more than 50 from original home school district. Each school will be given a 50 mile circle of recruitment from which athletes may come. No student from outside that district is eligible for athletic participation although they may attend the school. Transfers must prove residence within zone. Students may transfer to and from any school with in a district provided it is not in the same classification. Example, 5A Evangel player could not transfer to 5A Captain Shreve, but he could transfer to 3A Calvary Baptist or visa versa and be immediately eligible. Any transfer to a same classification school requires a mandatory 2 full Calendar year ineligibility for all sports. Transfer due to family moves that are legitimate for the work parents must prove to be true moves with the whole family moving together with all siblings attending an in district school. Classifications: (5 classifications) Supers class: The largest schools in the state, those with size of 1500 students or more any smaller schools that choose to play up to the Supers classification with some mandatory requirements for certain schools. All current private 5A schools are mandatory Supers as well as 4A multi year State champions in 4A. 4A: All schools from 1,499 to 950 both public and private. If a school has 2 or more State championships in 4A they must move up to Super. 3A: All schools from 849 to 600. If a School has 2 or more State Championships in 3A they must move up to 4A 2A: All Schools from 599 to 200. If a School has 2 or more State Championships in 2A they must move up to 3A 1A: All Schools 199 and smaller football and non football. Any schools with 2 or more State Championships in 1A must move up go 2A. Reclassifications will occur every 5 years. Schools that are consolidated will immediately be reclassified for the opening school year. Multi year schedule contracts are allowed. There are no sub districts, each school must participate in a minimum of 6 in class games or they will be ineligible for the playoffs. Schools may ban together to form leagues such as the Catholic League in NOLA and each League may choose and regulate it's own members and they may declare a league champion. But, Only in class games are used for power ratings eliminated the play up bump which is easily manipulated for a higher rating. Playoffs. Once the season is over playoff brackets of 16 will be established and playoffs games are to commence after a bye week. During the Bye week the number next 4 best power rated teams numbers 17,18, 19 and 20 will play a bowl game with team selection draws to pit regions against region as consolation game championship. If all teams come from same region they will be drawn from a hat. Two Bowel Games, per class. Non Championship Series schools are non compete programs there is no need for classification. Play whoever you want who is willing. No size splits no districts, no required number of games. If you want to establish leagues you may, but there is no bowl games or championship games allowed. Have a question for ya, what happens when a school gets a group of talented kids and can fill a competitive team? Can they opt out and go to the competitive division, based on your 5 year ban they wouldn't have this option and the class may have graduated by then.
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Post by retired on Jun 28, 2019 15:58:50 GMT -6
My 2 cents worth of thought on how to fix it. End the split There needs to be a new definition on competition. We have schools that will never ever be championship quality in any class and will never compete successfully. They still want to provide the opportunity for athletics but do not put the time and effort into becoming a State Champion caliber team. They don't have the time, personnel, resources, support nor the money. They feel abused and exist in both the public an the private sector. While others are driven and successful make it a priority and champion being a champion. Reclassify the schools into Two Divisions. Championship Series (CS) and Non Championship Series (NCS) Schools. Non Championship Series school may play all sports but will not compete against Championship Series Schools in any way athletically. Schools can already declare to "not play for district honors" and then craft a schedule they feel is appropriate.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 28, 2019 18:46:28 GMT -6
My 2 cents worth of thought on how to fix it. End the split There needs to be a new definition on competition. We have schools that will never ever be championship quality in any class and will never compete successfully. They still want to provide the opportunity for athletics but do not put the time and effort into becoming a State Champion caliber team. They don't have the time, personnel, resources, support nor the money. They feel abused and exist in both the public an the private sector. While others are driven and successful make it a priority and champion being a champion. Reclassify the schools into Two Divisions. Championship Series (CS) and Non Championship Series (NCS) Schools. Non Championship Series school may play all sports but will not compete against Championship Series Schools in any way athletically. Schools can already declare to "not play for district honors" and then craft a schedule they feel is appropriate. there's not really many schools that are gonna just tell their kids "we're not trying". That's how you lose enrollment and become the butt of jokes. You're probably thinking of Grace King in Metairie being non-competitive but if they were like that in all sports, their soccer team wouldn't have been there to make the run they did. There's no reason they couldn't build a basketball program like Bonnabel or a football state champion like EJ, their two biggest rivals. I think kids like the feeling of knowing they're competing for district and state, even if they know their team won't come close.
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Post by retired on Jun 28, 2019 20:46:23 GMT -6
Schools can already declare to "not play for district honors" and then craft a schedule they feel is appropriate. there's not really many schools that are gonna just tell their kids "we're not trying". That's how you lose enrollment and become the butt of jokes. You're probably thinking of Grace King in Metairie being non-competitive but if they were like that in all sports, their soccer team wouldn't have been there to make the run they did. There's no reason they couldn't build a basketball program like Bonnabel or a football state champion like EJ, their two biggest rivals. I think kids like the feeling of knowing they're competing for district and state, even if they know their team won't come close. Actually I was thinking of Ben Franklin. I believe they currently chose not to compete for district honors and put together a 6-4 season with some competitive games rather than going out and getting pounded every week. Since it is obvious that students are not attending those schools for athletic purposes I am not sure how enrollment would decline by choosing to not play for district honors. While EJ's title was certainly a great accomplishment, EJ has never been as non competitive as King as a football team. Rummel and Curtis are two reasons why they can't build a football program.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 29, 2019 4:26:23 GMT -6
there's not really many schools that are gonna just tell their kids "we're not trying". That's how you lose enrollment and become the butt of jokes. You're probably thinking of Grace King in Metairie being non-competitive but if they were like that in all sports, their soccer team wouldn't have been there to make the run they did. There's no reason they couldn't build a basketball program like Bonnabel or a football state champion like EJ, their two biggest rivals. I think kids like the feeling of knowing they're competing for district and state, even if they know their team won't come close. Actually I was thinking of Ben Franklin. I believe they currently chose not to compete for district honors and put together a 6-4 season with some competitive games rather than going out and getting pounded every week. Since it is obvious that students are not attending those schools for athletic purposes I am not sure how enrollment would decline by choosing to not play for district honors. While EJ's title was certainly a great accomplishment, EJ has never been as non competitive as King as a football team. Rummel and Curtis are two reasons why they can't build a football program. right, but Ben Franklin competes in other sports however. Their soccer and volleyball are usually very good. And Curtis is right down the street from Destrehan yet they seem to have no trouble competing for state.
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Post by thedomeranger on Jun 29, 2019 7:17:28 GMT -6
My 2 cents worth of thought on how to fix it. End the split There needs to be a new definition on competition. We have schools that will never ever be championship quality in any class and will never compete successfully. They still want to provide the opportunity for athletics but do not put the time and effort into becoming a State Champion caliber team. They don't have the time, personnel, resources, support nor the money. They feel abused and exist in both the public an the private sector. While others are driven and successful make it a priority and champion being a champion. Reclassify the schools into Two Divisions. Championship Series (CS) and Non Championship Series (NCS) Schools. Non Championship Series school may play all sports but will not compete against Championship Series Schools in any way athletically. NCS Schools will declare this intention to be NCS. They will be restricted to only athletes from their "HOME ZONE" as defined by the local school board. Any student from outside that zone is ineligible for participation at that school. New Students who move into the zone may be eligible. There are no playoffs of championship with only individual honor for exemplar performance and or character of the player. Play for the fun of the sport without the pressure of winning. Championship Series Schools also must declare this intention to be CS. They will participate in a highly competitive open enrollment. There will be strict rules over transfers that require a move of more than 50 from original home school district. Each school will be given a 50 mile circle of recruitment from which athletes may come. No student from outside that district is eligible for athletic participation although they may attend the school. Transfers must prove residence within zone. Students may transfer to and from any school with in a district provided it is not in the same classification. Example, 5A Evangel player could not transfer to 5A Captain Shreve, but he could transfer to 3A Calvary Baptist or visa versa and be immediately eligible. Any transfer to a same classification school requires a mandatory 2 full Calendar year ineligibility for all sports. Transfer due to family moves that are legitimate for the work parents must prove to be true moves with the whole family moving together with all siblings attending an in district school. Classifications: (5 classifications) Supers class: The largest schools in the state, those with size of 1500 students or more any smaller schools that choose to play up to the Supers classification with some mandatory requirements for certain schools. All current private 5A schools are mandatory Supers as well as 4A multi year State champions in 4A. 4A: All schools from 1,499 to 950 both public and private. If a school has 2 or more State championships in 4A they must move up to Super. 3A: All schools from 849 to 600. If a School has 2 or more State Championships in 3A they must move up to 4A 2A: All Schools from 599 to 200. If a School has 2 or more State Championships in 2A they must move up to 3A 1A: All Schools 199 and smaller football and non football. Any schools with 2 or more State Championships in 1A must move up go 2A. Reclassifications will occur every 5 years. Schools that are consolidated will immediately be reclassified for the opening school year. Multi year schedule contracts are allowed. There are no sub districts, each school must participate in a minimum of 6 in class games or they will be ineligible for the playoffs. Schools may ban together to form leagues such as the Catholic League in NOLA and each League may choose and regulate it's own members and they may declare a league champion. But, Only in class games are used for power ratings eliminated the play up bump which is easily manipulated for a higher rating. Playoffs. Once the season is over playoff brackets of 16 will be established and playoffs games are to commence after a bye week. During the Bye week the number next 4 best power rated teams numbers 17,18, 19 and 20 will play a bowl game with team selection draws to pit regions against region as consolation game championship. If all teams come from same region they will be drawn from a hat. Two Bowel Games, per class. Non Championship Series schools are non compete programs there is no need for classification. Play whoever you want who is willing. No size splits no districts, no required number of games. If you want to establish leagues you may, but there is no bowl games or championship games allowed. The issue I have with a set # of championship wins moving you up is that you may be penalizing success rather than penalizing any sort of wrongdoing or “shady” behavior. The ironic part, if I recall correctly (big if for an old man, lol), is that the whole split momentum really started when schools like Evangel and John Curtis self imposed moving up from their classification. Once they started beating traditional larger public powerhouses more often than not if not always, they were forced back down by LHSAA. i also think if you take out a handful programs, you’ll find that few schools with 2 or 3 state championships in a 5 year period have more than 1 or 2 other championships in their entire history and of those that do there is still a large gap between the championships. And even of that handful you find that many of those clusters go back decades ago and most are public schools. Here is a good place to check this stats. www.14-0productions.com/football-champions.html. Interestingly enough there are more public’s than private’s that have 4 or more championships
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