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Post by indy on Jul 5, 2019 15:46:05 GMT -6
I doubt anyone on this board cares but why are we split when The Holden softball team has three girls who start that live in Albany?
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Post by bayouboss on Jul 6, 2019 6:28:59 GMT -6
Looks like you were right Indy. They don’t care. It’s OK when public schools have out of zone athletes.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 6:52:26 GMT -6
Looks like you were right Indy. They don’t care. It’s OK when public schools have out of zone athletes. They care about themselves.
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Post by cvwildcatfan on Jul 6, 2019 9:31:31 GMT -6
I doubt anyone on this board cares but why are we split when The Holden softball team has three girls who start that live in Albany? I'm wondering why a grown man is finding out where teenage girls live at.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 9:36:29 GMT -6
I doubt anyone on this board cares but why are we split when The Holden softball team has three girls who start that live in Albany? I'm wondering why a grown man is finding out where teenage girls live at. Live at? I’m wondering where you went to school at?
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jul 6, 2019 10:52:38 GMT -6
The private schools have never given a damn about the public schools. But ya'll want the public schools to cater to the private schools ? BS !!! With all of its flaws, the split is still better than the old system.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 11:31:58 GMT -6
The private schools have never given a damn about the public schools. But ya'll want the public schools to cater to the private schools ? BS !!! With all of its flaws, the split is still better than the old system. If by better you mean watered down you are absolutely correct
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 11:34:07 GMT -6
Ok 1994 how is it fair to all the schools that three time defending champ Holden plays because of their out of zone kids?
Typical attack me because you can’t defend the out of zone kids
No chance any coaches in that parish told the nd softball coach about that
Sure seems misguided to say that the private’s never cared to the public’s Like A. Private’s liked Curtis and Evangel B. Private’s thought it was a good idea from them to be forced down
Split is about spite and jealousy not some level playing field that can’t exist
My question is think about how much animosity wasn’t created by pushing those two down side seems like this is doing something similar
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 11:35:37 GMT -6
1994 what gives the impression that private’s want Public’s to cater to them?
I just wanna see fair treatment and haven’t met anyone that has some thought to the contrary
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Post by retired on Jul 6, 2019 11:39:49 GMT -6
1994 what gives the impression that private’s want Public’s to cater to them? I just wanna see fair treatment and haven’t met anyone that has some thought to the contrary I believe when much of this started years ago the private schools were not receptive to ideas such as the modifier. Also to help fully understand the scope of things, private schools were asked for records regarding athletes and financial aid. They balked. That said, I think if one believes the split should remain in place, they should be welcome to examining the classification process with a greater number of public schools being classified as select.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 11:49:56 GMT -6
If “select” was fairly and equally marked across the board there wouldn’t be enough public schools left to fill a bracket
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Post by retired on Jul 6, 2019 11:57:12 GMT -6
If “select” was fairly and equally marked across the board there wouldn’t be enough public schools left to fill a bracket Based off of many of the replies you have made that I then addressed with data and facts, I have to say that I simply don't believe you can make such a statement and expect any validity.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 12:09:39 GMT -6
Me?
If the rule is an out of zone starter than my statement is factually accurate
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Post by retired on Jul 6, 2019 12:43:42 GMT -6
Me? If the rule is an out of zone starter than my statement is factually accurate If you can't get the name of the LHSAA director, or the date or manner in which the infamous "play in class" doctrine was established, or if when you request someone look at the semi final scores and are met with numerous examples of blow outs pre split, why would someone give validity your claims regarding the make up of 100s of schools? Not trying to be a jerk, just pointing out lots of your "claims" aren't really supported. You make a true observation that despite what some may believe, just because a school is a public school doesn't mean that its enrollment policy is one utilizing historic "attendance zones". But then you make a an unsubstantiated claim that so many schools either have a more wide ranging enrollment policy OR they cheat that a traditional non-select bracket could not be filled.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 13:06:38 GMT -6
You yourself said don’t waste my time at the lake so I didn’t and will post these Scores
What’s this you say about play in class doctrine? It was established by Kenny Henderson.
Is a public forum the correct place to start posting names of out of zone high school kids?
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Post by fanman on Jul 6, 2019 13:17:36 GMT -6
Stomp another mud hole I We he glad when we start games. And maybe stop same old same old
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 14:08:47 GMT -6
We end up in a mud hole because we seem to wanna have two sets of rules
Set 1 public schools can have all the out of zone kids no issue
Set 2 private’s can’t have any out of zone kids due to perception that both the kid is good and that someone other than the family is paying
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jul 6, 2019 15:30:44 GMT -6
1994 what gives the impression that private’s want Public’s to cater to them? I just wanna see fair treatment and haven’t met anyone that has some thought to the contrary I believe when much of this started years ago the private schools were not receptive to ideas such as the modifier. Also to help fully understand the scope of things, private schools were asked for records regarding athletes and financial aid. They balked. That said, I think if one believes the split should remain in place, they should be welcome to examining the classification process with a greater number of public schools being classified as select. Seems like so many on here don't understand the term Select as it is being used by the LHSAA. Private schools and Lab schools are classified Select automatically. Certain public schools are classified Select because 25 percent or more of their enrollment consist of out-of-zone students enrolled in specialized Select admission programs that require testing, interviews, auditions for acceptance and grade point standards for retention. There are Non Selects that have specialized programs but they have no such requirements for admission or retention and are open to all students that apply. Karr gets singled out quite a bit on here but is a charter school that is open to ALL students in Orleans Parish and has NO admission or retention standards. It is therefore, Non Select.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 15:54:08 GMT -6
Don’t you have a grand kid at nd?
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 15:58:08 GMT -6
If you wanna recite the rule then you also need to include magnet
And the made up 25% rule only applies to dual curriculum And it had to be changed to that due to the preponderance of public schools that had over 25% out of zone
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 16:01:19 GMT -6
If you don’t believe this is made up then ask yourself why is Grambling not “select”?
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Post by retired on Jul 6, 2019 16:09:54 GMT -6
I believe when much of this started years ago the private schools were not receptive to ideas such as the modifier. Also to help fully understand the scope of things, private schools were asked for records regarding athletes and financial aid. They balked. That said, I think if one believes the split should remain in place, they should be welcome to examining the classification process with a greater number of public schools being classified as select. Seems like so many on here don't understand the term Select as it is being used by the LHSAA. Private schools and Lab schools are classified Select automatically. Certain public schools are classified Select because 25 percent or more of their enrollment consist of out-of-zone students enrolled in specialized Select admission programs that require testing, interviews, auditions for acceptance and grade point standards for retention. There are Non Selects that have specialized programs but they have no such requirements for admission or retention and are open to all students that apply. Karr gets singled out quite a bit on here but is a charter school that is open to ALL students in Orleans Parish and has NO admission or retention standards. It is therefore, Non Select. Ahh..but here is where it complex. Isn't it more accurate to state that Karr and Warren Easton etc. are "open" to all students because the admission process is lottery based and placement is done by ONEAPP. If someone (like myself) is going to call out ECA AND CURTIS, then it must be recognized that by that standard any athlete in New Orleans can choose to go to WE or Karr just like they could choose to go to any private school. Seems like the same thing to me.
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 16:17:43 GMT -6
Retired you are correct All of Orleans Parish is open enrollment like this
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Post by indy on Jul 6, 2019 18:02:19 GMT -6
Then Lafayette Parish has more exceptions than the tax code
They actually have kids who will use their grand parents address to attend their school of choice despite not actually living in Lafayette Parish
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2019 18:16:48 GMT -6
The private schools have never given a damn about the public schools. But ya'll want the public schools to cater to the private schools ? BS !!! With all of its flaws, the split is still better than the old system. Really? You really believe that? Honestly? Winless teams making the playoffs is “better than the old system.” How sway?
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Post by brprepfan on Jul 7, 2019 21:42:38 GMT -6
he is blinded by public school thinking.
I wish teams had to have at least a 5-5 record to make playoffs.
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Post by retired on Jul 8, 2019 14:29:33 GMT -6
he is blinded by public school thinking. I wish teams had to have at least a 5-5 record to make playoffs. Why? I know the common reply will be about teams not "earning" or "deserving", and I understand that. But its just one round at the end of the tournament, good teams are playing good teams (with the occasional super team that will beat everyone by 30 regardless).
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Post by indy on Jul 8, 2019 15:10:07 GMT -6
retired i'm glad your job didn't have anything to do with Math
just one round yeah not so much
in lower brackets
first round team who wouldn't have gotten in without split
second round team who would have been seed 28-36
quarterfinal round team seeded in the teens
not until final four did you get descent games
AND YES I'M READY TO POST THE BRACKET WITH THESE SEEDS BECAUSE YOU TAKE EVERYTHING SO LITERALLY
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Post by retired on Jul 8, 2019 20:02:11 GMT -6
retired i'm glad your job didn't have anything to do with Math just one round yeah not so much in lower brackets first round team who wouldn't have gotten in without split second round team who would have been seed 28-36 quarterfinal round team seeded in the teens not until final four did you get descent games AND YES I'M READY TO POST THE BRACKET WITH THESE SEEDS BECAUSE YOU TAKE EVERYTHING SO LITERALLY Yes, but would having a rule saying you must be .500 to make the playoffs really change that? And would the weaker opening round ultimately affect the final four?
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Post by indy on Jul 9, 2019 8:34:10 GMT -6
Well playing better teams wouldn’t allow teams to hold back plays and defenses for the next round
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