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Post by indy on Aug 21, 2019 19:50:12 GMT -6
Does anyone know of a team that is the only football playing school in the parish that doesn’t have a winning record every year?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 19:56:00 GMT -6
Does anyone know of a team that is the only football playing school in the parish that doesn’t have a winning record every year? Franklin?
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Post by thedomeranger on Aug 21, 2019 20:26:49 GMT -6
Does anyone know of a team that is the only football playing school in the parish that doesn’t have a winning record every year? Franklin? There are several football playing schools in St Mary parish.
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Post by wshs on Aug 21, 2019 20:31:34 GMT -6
Does anyone know of a team that is the only football playing school in the parish that doesn’t have a winning record every year? Winnfield, Red River, Jonesboro hodge, Caldwell, Franklin parish
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Post by 64 on Aug 21, 2019 20:41:21 GMT -6
Does anyone know of a team that is the only football playing school in the parish that doesn’t have a winning record every year? Madison Parish Tensas Parish General Trass in East Carroll
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Post by chalmetteowl on Aug 22, 2019 6:00:33 GMT -6
Does anyone know of a team that is the only football playing school in the parish that doesn’t have a winning record every year? us if we were in a different district...
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Post by jhodgegrad on Aug 22, 2019 6:21:39 GMT -6
Jonesboro until the past 2 years.
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Post by kamala on Aug 22, 2019 7:59:46 GMT -6
Yall be careful. Indy didn't actually expect yall to point out nearly 10 schools that are the only one in a parish but don't win consistently.
Yall just totally destroyed this thread for him. LOL
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Post by indy on Aug 22, 2019 8:04:47 GMT -6
Actually you guys did what I was hoping for.
Some private schools are singled out for their success and are singled out for a few.
Eventually the Many fans may realize that it could turn on them.
Not all “selects” do well Not all “non selects” do well Not all only football team in the parish do well
The only thing that is a majority is schools not doing that well in football
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Post by 40back on Aug 22, 2019 8:28:13 GMT -6
Yall be careful. Indy didn't actually expect yall to point out nearly 10 schools that are the only one in a parish but don't win consistently. Yall just totally destroyed this thread for him. LOL LOL. Yea and his response is . . . .well, sad.
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Post by movethechains on Aug 22, 2019 8:36:48 GMT -6
Actually you guys did what I was hoping for. Some private schools are singled out for their success and are singled out for a few. Eventually the Many fans may realize that it could turn on them. Not all “selects” do well Not all “non selects” do well Not all only football team in the parish do well The only thing that is a majority is schools not doing that well in football They can't all be doing well. Somebody has the be the ones getting beaten. If a team goes 10-0, then ten schools have at least one loss, lol. Every year nine teams are gonna lose the championship game. lol
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Post by kamala on Aug 22, 2019 9:41:06 GMT -6
Actually you guys did what I was hoping for. Some private schools are singled out for their success and are singled out for a few. Eventually the Many fans may realize that it could turn on them. Not all “selects” do well Not all “non selects” do well Not all only football team in the parish do well The only thing that is a majority is schools not doing that well in football What a total load of crap. LOL. But nice try at a save. No one buys it though. Shows weakness when someone can't just say, "Yea, I was wrong on that one".
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Post by Sixpack on Aug 22, 2019 11:59:17 GMT -6
Actually you guys did what I was hoping for. Some private schools are singled out for their success and are singled out for a few. Eventually the Many fans may realize that it could turn on them. Not all “selects” do well Not all “non selects” do well Not all only football team in the parish do well The only thing that is a majority is schools not doing that well in football What a total load of crap. LOL. But nice try at a save. No one buys it though. Shows weakness when someone can't just say, "Yea, I was wrong on that one". Well what else would you expect from someone who thinks private schools with open border enrollment areas have no athletic advantage over public schools with mandatory neighborhood enrollment zones.
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Post by wshs on Aug 22, 2019 12:07:56 GMT -6
What a total load of crap. LOL. But nice try at a save. No one buys it though. Shows weakness when someone can't just say, "Yea, I was wrong on that one". Well what else would you expect from someone who thinks private schools with open border enrollment areas have no athletic advantage over public schools with mandatory neighborhood enrollment zones.Oh no , you done doned it now. Get ready for a list of public school kids out of their zone and enrollment numbers for Sabine parish
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Post by movethechains on Aug 22, 2019 13:19:43 GMT -6
I'm still waiting to hear from, anyone, I guess, if the Magnolia-Evangel game will be a close game. And I still think Evangel-ND would be a good game. All these teams that have a six, seven year "run" (some with maybe a ten year run) is good. But like I stated before, John Curtis seems to be the ONLY team in the state to have only ONE run. But it's about a 35 year run, and counting, lol.
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Post by movethechains on Aug 22, 2019 13:22:04 GMT -6
The River Ridge zone genes must be one of a kind, and going way back, lol.
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Post by Southplaq on Aug 22, 2019 13:43:45 GMT -6
Well what else would you expect from someone who thinks private schools with open border enrollment areas have no athletic advantage over public schools with mandatory neighborhood enrollment zones. Oh no , you done doned it now. Get ready for a list of public school kids out of their zone and enrollment numbers for Sabine parish LMAOOO!! My thoughts exactly. Sixpack, oooohhhhhh poop, you done messed up now, son. You done opened up a 55-galon drum of Grade-A, prime-time Pioneer, whoop . Get ready for 35 more post that will eventually turn into a SPLIT discussion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 13:53:05 GMT -6
Doesn't matter if a private school offers open enrollment with no zone required.
The LHSAA makes it clear that No matter private or public a kid who enters his freshman year outside of the zone he is ineligible for one calendar year.
So although Notre Dame may be open enrollment it doesn't mean some kid living outside the closest public school zone can attend and play his first year unless he has made a bona fide (like Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich bona fide) move into the zone. And what is the zone the LHSAA attached to private schools? Simple, the closest public school in location to the private. So, let's so OCS is the school here, that closest public is Sterlington. So OCS is required to take kids for athletic purposes within Sterlington zone. So they may have open enrollment but it doesn't matter with athletics.
Now, public school educational departments like my neck of the woods in OPSB, they can set their parameters as to eligibility and the LHSAA will adhere to whatever it is. So if a school board has an open enrollment for athletic purposes within entire parish system, LHSAA won't rule a kid ineligible if he attends a school within the School Board outlined schools within their jurisdiction.
Sounds convicted and it can be. But I spoke with the head honcho over OPSB personally and we both had a great conversation and he explained it in detail and it was sound.
There are no advantages. It is all fake news. Always was.
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Post by Southplaq on Aug 22, 2019 14:05:06 GMT -6
Doesn't matter if a private school offers open enrollment with no zone required. The LHSAA makes it clear that No matter private or public a kid who enters his freshman year outside of the zone he is ineligible for one calendar year. So although Notre Dame may be open enrollment it doesn't mean some kid living outside the closest public school zone can attend and play his first year unless he has made a bona fide (like Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich bona fide) move into the zone. And what is the zone the LHSAA attached to private schools? Simple, the closest public school in location to the private. So, let's so OCS is the school here, that closest public is Sterlington. So OCS is required to take kids for athletic purposes within Sterlington zone. So they may have open enrollment but it doesn't matter with athletics. Now, public school educational departments like my neck of the woods in OPSB, they can set their parameters as to eligibility and the LHSAA will adhere to whatever it is. So if a school board has an open enrollment for athletic purposes within entire parish system, LHSAA won't rule a kid ineligible if he attends a school within the School Board outlined schools within their jurisdiction. Sounds convicted and it can be. But I spoke with the head honcho over OPSB personally and we both had a great conversation and he explained it in detail and it was sound. There are no advantages. It is all fake news. Always was. yep. If a student lives outside of a Private school's zone and wants to transfer to that school, they are required to sit out 1 full year.
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Post by movethechains on Aug 22, 2019 14:11:03 GMT -6
Still wishing somebody in the know could say if Magnolia-Evangel will be a good game...……...
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Post by wshs on Aug 22, 2019 14:36:02 GMT -6
Doesn't matter if a private school offers open enrollment with no zone required. The LHSAA makes it clear that No matter private or public a kid who enters his freshman year outside of the zone he is ineligible for one calendar year. So although Notre Dame may be open enrollment it doesn't mean some kid living outside the closest public school zone can attend and play his first year unless he has made a bona fide (like Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich bona fide) move into the zone. And what is the zone the LHSAA attached to private schools? Simple, the closest public school in location to the private. So, let's so OCS is the school here, that closest public is Sterlington. So OCS is required to take kids for athletic purposes within Sterlington zone. So they may have open enrollment but it doesn't matter with athletics. Now, public school educational departments like my neck of the woods in OPSB, they can set their parameters as to eligibility and the LHSAA will adhere to whatever it is. So if a school board has an open enrollment for athletic purposes within entire parish system, LHSAA won't rule a kid ineligible if he attends a school within the School Board outlined schools within their jurisdiction. Sounds convicted and it can be. But I spoke with the head honcho over OPSB personally and we both had a great conversation and he explained it in detail and it was sound. There are no advantages. It is all fake news. Always was. yep. If a student lives outside of a Private school's zone and wants to transfer to that school, they are required to sit out 1 full year. Yep, call that’s that red shirt year!!
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Post by wshs on Aug 22, 2019 14:38:41 GMT -6
Still wishing somebody in the know could say if Magnolia-Evangel will be a good game...……... Man I really wished I knew the answer but I don’t. Please someone in the know answer him. Would be much better conversation than where we at.
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Post by movethechains on Aug 22, 2019 16:01:38 GMT -6
Thanks wshs. I've seen y'all play ONCE. Unfortunately it was against John Curtis. End of that story. But I did see why y'all beat everybody else. That was a great Winnfield Tiger team that year. If the split was in place that year I have no doubt y'all would have been state champions. Good luck this year.
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Post by retired on Aug 22, 2019 16:49:49 GMT -6
Doesn't matter if a private school offers open enrollment with no zone required. The LHSAA makes it clear that No matter private or public a kid who enters his freshman year outside of the zone he is ineligible for one calendar year. So although Notre Dame may be open enrollment it doesn't mean some kid living outside the closest public school zone can attend and play his first year unless he has made a bona fide (like Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich bona fide) move into the zone. And what is the zone the LHSAA attached to private schools? Simple, the closest public school in location to the private. So, let's so OCS is the school here, that closest public is Sterlington. So OCS is required to take kids for athletic purposes within Sterlington zone. So they may have open enrollment but it doesn't matter with athletics. Now, public school educational departments like my neck of the woods in OPSB, they can set their parameters as to eligibility and the LHSAA will adhere to whatever it is. So if a school board has an open enrollment for athletic purposes within entire parish system, LHSAA won't rule a kid ineligible if he attends a school within the School Board outlined schools within their jurisdiction. Sounds convicted and it can be. But I spoke with the head honcho over OPSB personally and we both had a great conversation and he explained it in detail and it was sound. There are no advantages. It is all fake news. Always was. This is not accurate due to the parochial school provisions codified by state law. Also, in NOLA (the largest selection of catholic (and probably private schools), the archdiocese ruled that 8th grade is now held at HS and not elementary school. So those kids are already at the school and therefore would be eligible for 9th grade. Here is the more important matter. This gets brought up a lot, but seriously the idea of a freshman making a difference is not one that I think the argument should be based on. Its a freshman. The bigger issue is the ability to enroll. That is the key point that indy has always been 100% correct in, despite his silly rhetoric, grossly inaccurate exaggerations or suppositions, and silly namecalling. 30 years ago the climate was such that the private schools did hold an advantage because if I lived at say 123 Salcedo Street New Orleans I had to go to Warren Easton (a few hundred feet away) but I could choose to go Jesuit, Brother Martin, Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. However if I lived off of Dowman road, I could not choose to go to Warren Easton. I could however, choose to go to Jesuit, Brother Martin , Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. If I lived on the West Bank, I could not choose to go to Warren Easton, but I could choose to go to Jesuit, Brother Martin, Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. If I lived across the lake in Slidell, I could not go to Warren Easton. But I could go to Jesuit, Brother Martin , Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. As Indy has so correctly pointed out, THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE FOR A GROWING NUMBER OF "NON SELECT" schools. Now if you want to say "the rules are the same, there is no advantage" my counter argument to that would be to picture a boxing tournament where the rules stated one could only hit with their right arm. If a contestant was born with no right arm, but only a left one does saying "nope, the rules apply to all, so there is no advantage" an accurate statement?
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Post by LATigerFan on Aug 22, 2019 17:21:59 GMT -6
Still wishing somebody in the know could say if Magnolia-Evangel will be a good game...……... The kids playing football behind the Evangel bleachers will be in the actual game sometime in the mid 2nd quarter.
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Post by wshs on Aug 22, 2019 17:35:24 GMT -6
Thanks wshs. I've seen y'all play ONCE. Unfortunately it was against John Curtis. End of that story. But I did see why y'all beat everybody else. That was a great Winnfield Tiger team that year. If the split was in place that year I have no doubt y'all would have been state champions. Good luck this year. Thanks bud. Appreciate the kind words and with the way we’ve tanked since 2013 we need all the luck we can get. Glad someone finally answered your question.
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Post by 40back on Aug 22, 2019 18:33:31 GMT -6
Thanks wshs. I've seen y'all play ONCE. Unfortunately it was against John Curtis. End of that story. But I did see why y'all beat everybody else. That was a great Winnfield Tiger team that year. If the split was in place that year I have no doubt y'all would have been state champions. Good luck this year. On the flip side, I'm old enough to have seen Winnfield beat John Curtis in a state championship game. What a game that was. Thomas King, who I became friends with years later in college, was Winnfield's quarterback. He and this RB who doubled up as their kicker played great.
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Post by wshs on Aug 22, 2019 18:59:10 GMT -6
Thanks wshs. I've seen y'all play ONCE. Unfortunately it was against John Curtis. End of that story. But I did see why y'all beat everybody else. That was a great Winnfield Tiger team that year. If the split was in place that year I have no doubt y'all would have been state champions. Good luck this year. On the flip side, I'm old enough to have seen Winnfield beat John Curtis in a state championship game. What a game that was. Thomas King, who I became friends with years later in college, was Winnfield's quarterback. He and this RB who doubled up as their kicker played great. Lol, yes I’m that old too. What a great game. Garlon Powell was our rb/kicker. That was a once in a lifetime team loaded with talent on both sides. Think we may have had 4 or 5 LSU signees on that team and a couple more with that potential. Kind of what it takes to compete against Curtis. Had two future nfl kids on that 2011 team and couldn’t match up. The difference between those teams and what makes John Curtis so good year after year is the matchup in the trenches. 82 we could match , 2011 we couldn’t
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 19:35:10 GMT -6
Doesn't matter if a private school offers open enrollment with no zone required. The LHSAA makes it clear that No matter private or public a kid who enters his freshman year outside of the zone he is ineligible for one calendar year. So although Notre Dame may be open enrollment it doesn't mean some kid living outside the closest public school zone can attend and play his first year unless he has made a bona fide (like Popeyes spicy chicken sandwich bona fide) move into the zone. And what is the zone the LHSAA attached to private schools? Simple, the closest public school in location to the private. So, let's so OCS is the school here, that closest public is Sterlington. So OCS is required to take kids for athletic purposes within Sterlington zone. So they may have open enrollment but it doesn't matter with athletics. Now, public school educational departments like my neck of the woods in OPSB, they can set their parameters as to eligibility and the LHSAA will adhere to whatever it is. So if a school board has an open enrollment for athletic purposes within entire parish system, LHSAA won't rule a kid ineligible if he attends a school within the School Board outlined schools within their jurisdiction. Sounds convicted and it can be. But I spoke with the head honcho over OPSB personally and we both had a great conversation and he explained it in detail and it was sound. There are no advantages. It is all fake news. Always was. This is not accurate due to the parochial school provisions codified by state law. Also, in NOLA (the largest selection of catholic (and probably private schools), the archdiocese ruled that 8th grade is now held at HS and not elementary school. So those kids are already at the school and therefore would be eligible for 9th grade. Here is the more important matter. This gets brought up a lot, but seriously the idea of a freshman making a difference is not one that I think the argument should be based on. Its a freshman. The bigger issue is the ability to enroll. That is the key point that indy has always been 100% correct in, despite his silly rhetoric, grossly inaccurate exaggerations or suppositions, and silly namecalling. 30 years ago the climate was such that the private schools did hold an advantage because if I lived at say 123 Salcedo Street New Orleans I had to go to Warren Easton (a few hundred feet away) but I could choose to go Jesuit, Brother Martin, Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. However if I lived off of Dowman road, I could not choose to go to Warren Easton. I could however, choose to go to Jesuit, Brother Martin , Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. If I lived on the West Bank, I could not choose to go to Warren Easton, but I could choose to go to Jesuit, Brother Martin, Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. If I lived across the lake in Slidell, I could not go to Warren Easton. But I could go to Jesuit, Brother Martin , Holy Cross, De Le Salle, Curtis, Rummel, St. Aug, Newman, Country Day, St. Martins, Ecole Classique, Ridgewood, Ganus, Lutheran etc. As Indy has so correctly pointed out, THIS IS NO LONGER THE CASE FOR A GROWING NUMBER OF "NON SELECT" schools. Now if you want to say "the rules are the same, there is no advantage" my counter argument to that would be to picture a boxing tournament where the rules stated one could only hit with their right arm. If a contestant was born with no right arm, but only a left one does saying "nope, the rules apply to all, so there is no advantage" an accurate statement? Retired, I follow your line of thinking clear and I never pondered a private school school system. That changes the ball game. Good points made.
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Post by 40back on Aug 22, 2019 20:07:08 GMT -6
On the flip side, I'm old enough to have seen Winnfield beat John Curtis in a state championship game. What a game that was. Thomas King, who I became friends with years later in college, was Winnfield's quarterback. He and this RB who doubled up as their kicker played great. Lol, yes I’m that old too. What a great game. Garlon Powell was our rb/kicker. That was a once in a lifetime team loaded with talent on both sides. Think we may have had 4 or 5 LSU signees on that team and a couple more with that potential. Kind of what it takes to compete against Curtis. Had two future nfl kids on that 2011 team and couldn’t match up. The difference between those teams and what makes John Curtis so good year after year is the matchup in the trenches. 82 we could match , 2011 we couldn’t Right. That's where you win games (the trenches).
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