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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 11:45:42 GMT -6
I'm not saying parents should pick the school because of sports, but playing sports is part of the high school experience for most kids not all. If the school that offers the sport your child wants to play and has the academics that you desire why not send your kid there. Just because you don't have the "random distribution" of championships or "enough down years" to satisfy you, why tell a kid or parent that instead of going to THEIR school of choice, play club ball and go to a public school that doesn't offer that sport? As far as the LHSAA having a duty to the other schools that's enforcing the rules in place, not making sure that everyone has a chance to win a championship. So are you saying since Barbe hasn't had enough down years they are recruiting? Instead of trying to bring Barbe down go check out what they are doing and see if your team/school can replicate it, bring your team/school up to their level not try to bring them down to yours. Amen! Yes. Barbe recruits faaaaar better than Hamilton Christian! St Louis doesn't need to recruit. St. Louis recruited basketball players in the late 80s and early and mid 2000s. Long time ago!
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Post by btown on May 26, 2016 11:50:15 GMT -6
Yes. Barbe recruits faaaaar better than Hamilton Christian! St Louis doesn't need to recruit. St. Louis recruited basketball players in the late 80s and early and mid 2000s. Long time ago! You play Hamilton one week in basketball and come back in one month there will be a complete different team on the floor.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 26, 2016 12:17:18 GMT -6
Yes. Barbe recruits faaaaar better than Hamilton Christian! St Louis doesn't need to recruit. St. Louis recruited basketball players in the late 80s and early and mid 2000s. Long time ago! "As far as the LHSAA having a duty to the other schools that's enforcing the rules in place, not making sure that everyone has a chance to win a championship. So are you saying since Barbe hasn't had enough down years they are recruiting?" Barbe is a "non select"" school, they can't attain, deny, retain... it's also free to attend there (no scholarship needed), so how are they recruiting? I don't know much about Hamilton Christian, but I don't remember them winning a championship in any sport this year, did they?
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 12:27:25 GMT -6
Yes. Barbe recruits faaaaar better than Hamilton Christian! St Louis doesn't need to recruit. St. Louis recruited basketball players in the late 80s and early and mid 2000s. Long time ago! You play Hamilton one week in basketball and come back in one month there will be a complete different team on the floor. How many championships in a row does kinder need to win to be in that category? Can't be that good without cheating, right? Can't be the coaching is that better, right? This can't be or you surely are a hippocrite!!
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Post by iknownuthing on May 26, 2016 14:45:52 GMT -6
Yes. Barbe recruits faaaaar better than Hamilton Christian! St Louis doesn't need to recruit. St. Louis recruited basketball players in the late 80s and early and mid 2000s. Long time ago! "As far as the LHSAA having a duty to the other schools that's enforcing the rules in place, not making sure that everyone has a chance to win a championship. So are you saying since Barbe hasn't had enough down years they are recruiting?" Barbe is a "non select"" school, they can't attain, deny, retain... it's also free to attend there (no scholarship needed), so how are they recruiting? I don't know much about Hamilton Christian, but I don't remember them winning a championship in any sport this year, did they? By getting mom or dad or both a good job with PPG and then having PPG pay all transportation cost to move in from Puerto Rico? That might be how its done. Just saying, not an official accusation. (A good job, or just a job period better than living in squalor in PR.)
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 26, 2016 14:54:12 GMT -6
"As far as the LHSAA having a duty to the other schools that's enforcing the rules in place, not making sure that everyone has a chance to win a championship. So are you saying since Barbe hasn't had enough down years they are recruiting?" Barbe is a "non select"" school, they can't attain, deny, retain... it's also free to attend there (no scholarship needed), so how are they recruiting? I don't know much about Hamilton Christian, but I don't remember them winning a championship in any sport this year, did they? By getting mom or dad or both a good job with PPG and then having PPG pay all transportation cost to move in from Puerto Rico? That might be how its done. Just saying, not an official accusation. (A good job, or just a job period better than living in squalor in PR.) Are you talking about Barbe or Hamilton Christian? I don't know about either school, just that's one public and one private.
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Post by 1stdown on May 26, 2016 17:53:09 GMT -6
You play Hamilton one week in basketball and come back in one month there will be a complete different team on the floor. How many championships in a row does kinder need to win to be in that category? Can't be that good without cheating, right? Can't be the coaching is that better, right? This can't be or you surely are a hippocrite! Kinder is finially seeing the fruits of their pewee football. The last few classes were the first to go from 5 year old flag all the way to high school. Before that, there was only 7th grade and 8th before high school. I wish coach Buck could have had that support, no telling what he could have done. So, the distant past isnt a good measure of what kinder is now capable of. Last year was a rebuilding year, this one wont be. And to the person who will say kinders for the split, talk to the coach, not me.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 18:00:43 GMT -6
How many championships in a row does kinder need to win to be in that category? Can't be that good without cheating, right? Can't be the coaching is that better, right? This can't be or you surely are a hippocrite! Kinder is finially seeing the fruits of their pewee football. The last few classes were the first to go from 5 year old flag all the way to high school. Before that, there was only 7th grade and 8th before high school. I wish coach Buck could have had that support, no telling what he could have done. So, the distant past isnt a good measure of what kinder is now capable of. Last year was a rebuilding year, this one wont be. And to the person who will say kinders for the split, talk to the coach, not me. Well y'all like JC now, have them in going in peewee. How lucky. ND gets them from 5 feeders schools and 2 of them don't have a football team. Our coaches start from scratch in the 9th grade. Hell a lot of our kids don't know each other before high school.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 18:25:54 GMT -6
Well y'all like JC now, have them in going in peewee. How lucky. ND gets them from 5 feeders schools and 2 of them don't have a football team. Our coaches start from scratch in the 9th grade. Hell a lot of our kids don't know each other before high school. That's strange. Church point is in the same peewee association as kinder. Quite a few of there rec league players play at Notre dame. At least that's what the parents told me. Iota does too. Rayne plays in a league. Welsh thumped em pretty good. I can't speak for Crowley, but I would assume they have put on shoulder pads before they got to y'all.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 18:38:09 GMT -6
That's strange. Church point is in the same peewee association as kinder. Quite a few of there rec league players play at Notre dame. At least that's what the parents told me. Iota does too. Rayne plays in a league. Welsh thumped em pretty good. I can't speak for Crowley, but I would assume they have put on shoulder pads before they got to y'all. Absolutely some play, not disputing that. my point is that kinder has a huge advantage if they retain their kids from peewee through high school, and I don't have a problem with that either, and ask your person from church point how many kids they get from St Landry parish, rayne, mire, Duson, Richard, Mowata, and Branch., and if CP's coach wasn't such a loser we wouldn't get any kids from OMP, although we are grateful he he is.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 8:34:13 GMT -6
That's strange. Church point is in the same peewee association as kinder. Quite a few of there rec league players play at Notre dame. At least that's what the parents told me. Iota does too. Rayne plays in a league. Welsh thumped em pretty good. I can't speak for Crowley, but I would assume they have put on shoulder pads before they got to y'all. Having a good rec program leads to sports success. Those communities that have Pee Wee football or strong USSSA baseball teams, will usually have some of the better high school teams. Back to St. Martin Parish. St. Martinville in the years prior to Carol Delahoussaye's days, developed a PEE Wee league that sported 4 teams. All during his tenure, youth participated regularly. Now they barely put up a single team. If you look at the better baseball and football teams in LA, you will find that common factor. Kids that play multiple sports, with the same kids year in year out. It is one of the reasons Barbe has so much baseball success. South Lake Charles Little League, that is run by the Barbe head baseball coach and his wife. If you want to play Barbe baseball, you need to get exposure in SLCLL.. In years past I tried to explain this to some of the Lafayette area coaches plus they could make some money in the summers. Come play for the Lafayette Sluggers Baseball run by coach @3#$% of Lafayette High. The concept is to bring them in early and teach them your way. If I coached baseball, I would be hosting baseball tournaments all summer long u12 through u14 starting the week after the state championships. I want them to see the success plastered all over the walls, see the trophies and list of all state/all district players that came through in the past. Have a wall with all the players drafted from my program and what round they went in to MLB, then show them the players lounge. LOL.... Let the parents sit in the stadium where every seat is a chair backed seat and in better shape than the local D1 College's baseball field. LOL But hey, that's not recruiting is it?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 12:57:32 GMT -6
Having a good rec program leads to sports success. Those communities that have Pee Wee football or strong USSSA baseball teams, will usually have some of the better high school teams. Back to St. Martin Parish. St. Martinville in the years prior to Carol Delahoussaye's days, developed a PEE Wee league that sported 4 teams. All during his tenure, youth participated regularly. Now they barely put up a single team. If you look at the better baseball and football teams in LA, you will find that common factor. Kids that play multiple sports, with the same kids year in year out. It is one of the reasons Barbe has so much baseball success. South Lake Charles Little League, that is run by the Barbe head baseball coach and his wife. If you want to play Barbe baseball, you need to get exposure in SLCLL.. In years past I tried to explain this to some of the Lafayette area coaches plus they could make some money in the summers. Come play for the Lafayette Sluggers Baseball run by coach @3#$% of Lafayette High. The concept is to bring them in early and teach them your way. If I coached baseball, I would be hosting baseball tournaments all summer long u12 through u14 starting the week after the state championships. I want them to see the success plastered all over the walls, see the trophies and list of all state/all district players that came through in the past. Have a wall with all the players drafted from my program and what round they went in to MLB, then show them the players lounge. LOL.... Let the parents sit in the stadium where every seat is a chair backed seat and in better shape than the local D1 College's baseball field. LOL But hey, that's not recruiting is it? Shhhhhh. Try valium. Ridlen maybe?
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Post by indy on May 27, 2016 13:16:14 GMT -6
Shhhhhh. Try valium. Ridlen maybe? Hadn't heard your cluck cluck cluck in a while, thought maybe you died! I'll try some Valium and Ridlen and I was gonna recommend viagra for you but not sure what gender you relate to so maybe take a midol, that should work.
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Post by Raven on May 27, 2016 14:28:43 GMT -6
When trying to belittle someone, it's best to use the proper spelling of Ritalin.
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Post by laprepfb on May 27, 2016 14:35:45 GMT -6
When trying to belittle someone, it's best to use the proper spelling of Ritalin. "Principle" has been a favorite of mine in these threads also....
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Post by indy on May 27, 2016 14:38:23 GMT -6
When trying to belittle someone, it's best to use the proper spelling of Ritalin. "Principle" has been a favorite of mine in these threads also.... Did I spell midol correctly?
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 14:38:35 GMT -6
When trying to belittle someone, it's best to use the proper spelling of Ritalin. yeah we haven' heard from tineyweeniewillie in a while.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 14:41:31 GMT -6
When trying to belittle someone, it's best to use the proper spelling of Ritalin. "Principle" has been a favorite of mine in these threads also.... Depends, does your principal have any principles? Or is this just a new forming principality? Or, I am patiently waiting on your patience. LOL.,...
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Post by 1stdown on May 28, 2016 11:02:15 GMT -6
Absolutely some play, not disputing that. my point is that kinder has a huge advantage if they retain their kids from peewee through high school, and I don't have a problem with that either, and ask your person from church point how many kids they get from St Landry parish, rayne, mire, Duson, Richard, Mowata, and Branch., and if CP's coach wasn't such a loser we wouldn't get any kids from OMP, although we are grateful he he is. All home grown. Yeah, our 9_10 year olds beat church point in the peewee superbowl this year. I always noticed churchpoint had alot of talent year after year in pewee.
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Post by indy on May 28, 2016 19:35:04 GMT -6
CP has plenty of talent. Sucks for their town that they have such a bad coach. Personally I believe coaching is more important then anything else. Kids won't out work a coach, that's for sure. Kids won't have a better attitude or self esteem than their coach. Even in the best at home situation you can ask for, a coach will have an impact on their players for life. I'm afraid that this split and all the tug of war attitudes of adults will breed a new generation of kids that will lack the initiative to compete. It sucks that some kids are coached by the likes of bigBob(if he is a real coach). Just imagine how his players will grow up. Only thing they will be good at is making excuses. I'm still grateful for my old coach and that my sons got to play and learn football and life lessons from coach Cook.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 10:42:30 GMT -6
CP has plenty of talent. Sucks for their town that they have such a bad coach. Personally I believe coaching is more important then anything else. Kids won't out work a coach, that's for sure. Kids won't have a better attitude or self esteem than their coach. Even in the best at home situation you can ask for, a coach will have an impact on their players for life. I'm afraid that this split and all the tug of war attitudes of adults will breed a new generation of kids that will lack the initiative to compete. It sucks that some kids are coached by the likes of bigBob(if he is a real coach). Just imagine how his players will grow up. Only thing they will be good at is making excuses. I'm still grateful for my old coach and that my sons got to play and learn football and life lessons from coach Cook. Yep, he's the only one who teaches lessons about life. Only the private school guys do that. They didnt do it when and if they were in public schools...........but they were transformed. Thank you private schools. Now, go play in your league
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 10:53:25 GMT -6
Yep, he's the only one who teaches lessons about life. Only the private school guys do that. They didnt do it when and if they were in public schools...........but they were transformed. Thank you private schools. Now, go play in your league If you are truly a legendary and record setting coach why would you lose athletes to private schools? Why would they leave a legend and pay big money to go elsewhere? When Louie was at Crowley High ND lost a bunch of enrollment, when he came to ND they came back. Why they leave you?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 11:00:33 GMT -6
If you are truly a legendary and record setting coach why would you lose athletes to private schools? Why would they leave a legend and pay big money to go elsewhere? When Louie was at Crowley High ND lost a bunch of enrollment, when he came to ND they came back. Why they leave you? I never said they did my friend.
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 11:49:53 GMT -6
If you are truly a legendary and record setting coach why would you lose athletes to private schools? Why would they leave a legend and pay big money to go elsewhere? When Louie was at Crowley High ND lost a bunch of enrollment, when he came to ND they came back. Why they leave you? I never said they did my friend. So you retain all of them, and being a record setting coach I'm sure you get some that cross lines.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 14:56:48 GMT -6
I never said they did my friend. So you retain all of them, and being a record setting coach I'm sure you get some that cross lines. We have kids that parents make a legal move into our zone, but out school system will not allow a kid to attend that doesn not live in our LEA zone. Hence lies the difference.
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 15:04:56 GMT -6
So you retain all of them, and being a record setting coach I'm sure you get some that cross lines. We have kids that parents make a legal move into our zone, but out school system will not allow a kid to attend that doesn not live in our LEA zone. Hence lies the difference. So you retain all your students, you deny enrollment. You are a record setting coach. But yet you cluck like a chicken.
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Post by laprepfb on May 29, 2016 15:53:38 GMT -6
So you retain all of them, and being a record setting coach I'm sure you get some that cross lines. We have kids that parents make a legal move into our zone, but out school system will not allow a kid to attend that doesn not live in our LEA zone. Hence lies the difference. I'll ask a similar question to the one I asked in the other thread, which is unanswered. Are you telling me that at whatever school you are involved with that every single athlete resides in their LEA-assigned zone? What percentage of schools in this state do you believe that this is the case for?
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Post by iknownuthing on May 31, 2016 10:43:06 GMT -6
So you retain all of them, and being a record setting coach I'm sure you get some that cross lines. We have kids that parents make a legal move into our zone, but out school system will not allow a kid to attend that doesn not live in our LEA zone. Hence lies the difference. Yes, ant the LHSAA has rules in place to address this difference but that never is talked about. Instead, you try to make it sound like all private schools are cheating and doing things against the rules, either actually or in spirit, when they have satisfactorily followed the rules as set by your public school principals. You made the rules, and then YOU did not like the results, so YOU try to punish the successful who you attempt to put in a box. Now, we have had enough of the box and will take our ball and go away leaving you to fester in your mediocrity. Then what excuse will you have for your inability to compete? Do private schools have an advantage over public schools? Yes. Does it have ANYTHING to do with athletics? Unequivocally NO. For it all starts in the classroom and the failure of public schools to discipline and educate. If you want to stop the exodus from public schools, which is what this is really all about, as I have documented in a now dead thread, make your public schools the best they can be. It is your failure as both a coach, (if you really are) and an educator which you would have to be if you were a coach as you state. Also, STOP stealing our tax dollars and do your work as a teacher instead of sitting on these boards all day long, you are cheating your parish system and the state by doing so. That might be the first step in improving your charges lives.
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Post by pinion on Jun 6, 2016 12:19:23 GMT -6
When I say come into private schools from wherever, I mean by whatever means necessary. Open recruiting. Private schools keep getting accused of it (regardless of nothing to back up the claim), so why not? Recruiting means scholarships, so all at once private schools is either going to give a bunch of scholarships or let a bunch of kids in for free? Financial down side on both. I know of a few private schools in area numbers are going down, not up. If you are loosing money due to numbers going down how are going to allow kids to come to the school free. Private schools are run like a business you need a certain amount of students to meet the budget and free students do not help meet budget.
Advertising dollars, yes, that is my own opinion. But it's not based on a knee jerk reaction. If Company A has $100 to spend on advertising. Right now, they spend all 100 with the LHSAA. If a new league forms and they split those dollars up, both organizations will get $50. The money brought in by the LHSAA is cut in half. the money brought in by PrivateSportsOrganzation is a 100% increase from where it is now. the less I have, the more I gain. And if you think StateFarm and all of the other "big names" are just going to ignore a new league, you have no clue how business works. Dominant league; again, that is my own opinion. And again, it's not based on a knee jerk reaction. The split happening the way it's all gone down is practically an admission from the public schools that they can't compete. I don't believe it, but that's what that side of the fence seems to keep saying. The same reasons that public won't be competitive now aren't going to suddenly change. Combine that with a league of schools that are actually recruiting, and all the serious players are going to end up in that league. My own hope is that this can all be worked out and we can come back together. As much I would rather private schools be on their own, having to fill schedules is going to be a bear when the LHSAA is too butthurt to let their teams play teams from a new league. So, according to you: If a school allows a kid to go to school there on someone else's dime, that's recruiting? If that's what you're saying then, every public school is guilty of recruiting. I'll say this again for the millionth time: I pay taxes to cover kids at public schools and no longer have kids attending public schools. I also fork over tuition for my remaining school aged child to attend a private school. I'm paying TWICE. Yes, I'm doing that by choice (if you really consider it that). But the fact remains that I am paying for kids to attend a school I have no interest in. The first year I sent my son to a private school, I had to have help with the tuition. But it wasn't from the school. It was from an individual. That same individual is also paying for kids to attend public schools. And their kids are all grown and have kids of their own now. So they have no interest in public schools either. I'm starting to get the idea that you don't understand how scholarships work at private schools. I don't know how it is everywhere, but I know around here that the schools are not just eating the cost of kids being there. People are putting that money there, not the school. If you want to see how it would all work out, keep trying to make sure private schools leave the LHSAA. 2 leagues isn't going to end well for LHSAA schools.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 6, 2016 12:40:20 GMT -6
So, according to you: If a school allows a kid to go to school there on someone else's dime, that's recruiting? If that's what you're saying then, every public school is guilty of recruiting. I'll say this again for the millionth time: I pay taxes to cover kids at public schools and no longer have kids attending public schools. I also fork over tuition for my remaining school aged child to attend a private school. I'm paying TWICE. Yes, I'm doing that by choice (if you really consider it that). But the fact remains that I am paying for kids to attend a school I have no interest in. The first year I sent my son to a private school, I had to have help with the tuition. But it wasn't from the school. It was from an individual. That same individual is also paying for kids to attend public schools. And their kids are all grown and have kids of their own now. So they have no interest in public schools either. I'm starting to get the idea that you don't understand how scholarships work at private schools. I don't know how it is everywhere, but I know around here that the schools are not just eating the cost of kids being there. People are putting that money there, not the school. If you want to see how it would all work out, keep trying to make sure private schools leave the LHSAA. 2 leagues isn't going to end well for LHSAA schools. The LHSAA currently has two open positions. If you take one of those jobs, you could be looking for new employment in the near future. Once the privates pull out and they lose 40 to 45% of their revenue, things will get sore and real tight rather quickly. If they make NO cuts to expenses then they have been screwing their members and overcharging for their services. Not to mention, the possible cost of litigation over the forced separation or minimum the cost of future arbitration..
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