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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jan 3, 2021 19:29:11 GMT -6
Kaplan is looking for week 3 and week 10 thanks to the one year rescheduling. I say this to all coaches out there..... the power points need to be redone so we quit rewarding beating an 0-10 team over scheduling a real good team that goes 10-0 or 9-1 and losing. I get 10 points for beating an 0-10 football team while I can get a maximum of 10 points for losing to a 10-0 team in the same or lower classification than I am in . This in my opinion why Calvary Baptist, ND, STM, Acadiana,LCA, Many, etc . have trouble scheduling games. Completely agree coach. The power points system definitely needs some tweaking. And your points are valid. And it’s why there are so many 9-1 and 10-0 teams that get smoked in the playoffs. But at the same time, this year, LCA ended up a 5 seed in a 10 team bracket and not having a single home playoff game after losing just one game, to the 5A champ, because 4 of their opponents combined to win 2 games. There’s got to be something in between. Losing to great teams should be given more consideration. And since you have no control over what your opponents do the rest of the season, there has to be a way to not be penalized so bad when they struggle the rest of the way. I don’t know the answer, but what it currently is ain’t it.
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Post by coachtanklo on Jan 3, 2021 20:32:03 GMT -6
Here is an example .
Last year, we played ND and lost .For simplicity reasons we will use a 10 game schedule . ND went 9-1 last year . We receive 9 points for losing to ND( 1 point for number of wins ) We beat 2-8 LA. We got 10 points for the win and 2 additional points for the number of wins for a total of 12 points . Kaplan is rewarded more points for beating a 2-8 team than losing to a 9-1 team. This is foolish in my opinion. If we were to award 5 points for a victory instead of 10, this would be same scenario. We lose to ND . We get 9 points ( number of opponent’s victories) . We beat LA we get 5 points for the win and 2 points for opponent’s wins for a total of 7 points . Kaplan was rewarded more points for a loss to ND than a win vs LA.
ND goes 9-1 last year . LCA also goes 9-1. ND loses to LCA . ND gets 9 points ( number of LCA victories. LCA gets 5 points for win .plus an additional 9 points for ND winning 9 games during the season, for a total of 14 points .
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jan 3, 2021 20:40:42 GMT -6
Here is an example . Last year, we played ND and lost .For simplicity reasons we will use a 10 game schedule . ND went 9-1 last year . We receive 9 points for losing to ND( 1 point for number of wins ) We beat 2-8 LA. We got 10 points for the win and 2 additional points for the number of wins for a total of 12 points . Kaplan is rewarded more points for beating a 2-8 team than losing to a 9-1 team. This is foolish in my opinion. If we were to award 5 points for a victory instead of 10, this would be same scenario. We lose to ND . We get 9 points ( number of opponent’s victories) . We beat LA we get 5 points for the win and 2 points for opponent’s wins for a total of 7 points . Kaplan was rewarded more points for a loss to ND than a win vs LA. ND goes 9-1 last year . LCA also goes 9-1. ND loses to LCA . ND gets 9 points ( number of LCA victories. LCA gets 5 points for win .plus an additional 9 points for ND winning 9 games during the season, for a total of 14 points . I like that. But there’s also the issue of not being able to control what your opponents do. Just in district games, LCA beat Welsh and Port Barre. Both won just one game apiece. And Evangel fell off a cliff and was winless (when that was supposed to be a power point helper). LCA won those games 63-7, 68-0, and 51-0 respectively and got killed in the power points. That’s 2 games they were forced to play and another that was scheduled to boost the points and ended up crushing them. Your idea is good to solve one of the issues but something needs to change for the opposite end as well.
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Post by indy on Jan 3, 2021 21:01:42 GMT -6
Here is an example . Last year, we played ND and lost .For simplicity reasons we will use a 10 game schedule . ND went 9-1 last year . We receive 9 points for losing to ND( 1 point for number of wins ) We beat 2-8 LA. We got 10 points for the win and 2 additional points for the number of wins for a total of 12 points . Kaplan is rewarded more points for beating a 2-8 team than losing to a 9-1 team. This is foolish in my opinion. If we were to award 5 points for a victory instead of 10, this would be same scenario. We lose to ND . We get 9 points ( number of opponent’s victories) . We beat LA we get 5 points for the win and 2 points for opponent’s wins for a total of 7 points . Kaplan was rewarded more points for a loss to ND than a win vs LA. ND goes 9-1 last year . LCA also goes 9-1. ND loses to LCA . ND gets 9 points ( number of LCA victories. LCA gets 5 points for win .plus an additional 9 points for ND winning 9 games during the season, for a total of 14 points . So how does it help you get better playing a 2-8 team? How is the gate playing a 2-8 team? You’ve made it to the semis pretty regularly with ND on your schedule, how did that hurt you? Why would a 2-8 want to schedule Kaplan? Is this Actually Tank or did someone hack your account?
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jan 3, 2021 21:10:49 GMT -6
Here is an example . Last year, we played ND and lost .For simplicity reasons we will use a 10 game schedule . ND went 9-1 last year . We receive 9 points for losing to ND( 1 point for number of wins ) We beat 2-8 LA. We got 10 points for the win and 2 additional points for the number of wins for a total of 12 points . Kaplan is rewarded more points for beating a 2-8 team than losing to a 9-1 team. This is foolish in my opinion. If we were to award 5 points for a victory instead of 10, this would be same scenario. We lose to ND . We get 9 points ( number of opponent’s victories) . We beat LA we get 5 points for the win and 2 points for opponent’s wins for a total of 7 points . Kaplan was rewarded more points for a loss to ND than a win vs LA. ND goes 9-1 last year . LCA also goes 9-1. ND loses to LCA . ND gets 9 points ( number of LCA victories. LCA gets 5 points for win .plus an additional 9 points for ND winning 9 games during the season, for a total of 14 points . So how does it help you get better playing a 2-8 team? How is the gate playing a 2-8 team? You’ve made it to the semis pretty regularly with ND on your schedule, how did that hurt you? Why would a 2-8 want to schedule Kaplan? Is this Actually Tank or did someone hack your account? He’s saying they should be rewarded more for playing good teams and losing than for beating bad teams.
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Post by indy on Jan 3, 2021 21:19:04 GMT -6
So how does it help you get better playing a 2-8 team? How is the gate playing a 2-8 team? You’ve made it to the semis pretty regularly with ND on your schedule, how did that hurt you? Why would a 2-8 want to schedule Kaplan? Is this Actually Tank or did someone hack your account? He’s saying they should be rewarded more for playing good teams and losing than for beating bad teams. I can read, and I agree 100% with him. But he dropped ND and I want to know how, besides power points did it hurt him.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jan 3, 2021 21:37:18 GMT -6
He’s saying they should be rewarded more for playing good teams and losing than for beating bad teams. I can read, and I agree 100% with him. But he dropped ND and I want to know how, besides power points did it hurt him. I didn’t realize he dropped ND, so apologies for implying that you were misunderstanding his posts. I think coaches are trying to schedule in an effort to maximize their power points and also prepare their teams. And that’s the dilemma. Play teams that make your team better? Or play teams that position your team better for the playoffs? As a 3A team, in the current format, it seems like trying to schedule a good 5A team, who’s W/L will be good (Acadiana for instance) PLUS the bonus for 2 classes up, along with teams like OC and VC, who’s records will be very good as well and will be decent tests but are winnable games. But you also need for teams to want to play you as well so that’s difficult.
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Post by jklee on Jan 4, 2021 0:46:04 GMT -6
LCA non-district, so far: Catholic-BR Acadiana John Curtis Lafayette High 2 more spots to fill. Woodlawn looking 👀
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Post by coachtanklo on Jan 4, 2021 8:28:31 GMT -6
Ask Coach Cook why we don’t play. My reasoning is POWER POINTS.I believe it’s the same reason ND doesn’t schedule STM,Acadiana, or Carencro. Wouldn’t those games help ND become a better team than beating crappy old Kaplan? The gates would be good, the competition would be good, it’s just ND would have to play near perfect to have a shot to win year in and year out vs those teams. And to lose to those teams and get NO reward in the power point system is probably why games aren’t scheduled between those teams . Ask Coach Cook and get back with me.
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Post by DQTigers1995 on Jan 4, 2021 10:44:28 GMT -6
DeQuincy 2021 non-district games at Westlake 3A Erath 3A at South Beauregard 3A Lake Arthur 2A at St. Mary’s 1A
The 2022/2023 non district cycle will possibly have Deweyville and Evadale from across the state line.
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Post by TheFireman89 on Jan 4, 2021 12:16:48 GMT -6
2021 Plain Dealing Football Schedule (not sure if Glenbrook will count as a district game or not)
Scrimmage: TBD Jamboree: vs. Bossier W1 @ Booker T. Washington (SHR) W2 Homer* W3 Magnolia* W4 @ Haynesville* W5 North Caddo W6 Ringgold* W7 @ Glenbrook W8 @ Arcadia* W9 @ Calvary Baptist* W10 Lincoln Prep*
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Post by gatemouth on Jan 4, 2021 13:01:17 GMT -6
What if it went like this:
10 points for a win, 0 for a loss 1 point for each level of classification (IE: 5 points for playing a 5A opponent, 4 for a 4A, etc) .5 points for each level of classification of opponents wins (So again, 2.5 points for a 5A win, 2 points for a 4A win, etc)
So now if you schedule a West Monroe, even with a loss you're looking at:
5 points for classification 8-10 wins against 4A/5A opponents, so let's say a minimum of 18 points
So now, just for scheduling West Monroe, you walk away with a probably minimum of 23 points for a LOSS. You mess around and beat em, that's 33 points. Good job.
On the other hand, you feel the need to play Beekman, well here's what you get:
10 points for the win 2 points for classification 1-2 wins (let's say they're both 2A opponents, so you get 4 points)
So you might get 16 points for beating Beekman if they're having a good year, but 23 at a minimum for losing to West Monroe.
Let's go toward the middle of the road- You play Caldwell and beat em.
10 points for the win 3 points for classification 7 wins against mixed 1A-3A opponents, so let's say 8 points
You just got 21 points for beating Caldwell, but you'd have gotten no fewer than 11 for losing to them, 12 or 13 depending on your own classification.
You wanna play down some more? Well how's about Ringgold. It don't go much further down than that.
10 points for the win .5 for classification 0 points for opponents wins
You'd have likely been slightly better off from a power points perspective losing to Caldwell.
How about low down 5A team like Pineville? 10 for the win 2.5 for classification 5ish points for opponents wins
That's 17.5ish points for beating poor ole Pineville. You might as well have just lost to WM, once again from a power points perspective.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jan 4, 2021 15:50:10 GMT -6
Kaplan is looking for week 3 and week 10 thanks to the one year rescheduling. I say this to all coaches out there..... the power points need to be redone so we quit rewarding beating an 0-10 team over scheduling a real good team that goes 10-0 or 9-1 and losing. I get 10 points for beating an 0-10 football team while I can get a maximum of 10 points for losing to a 10-0 team in the same or lower classification than I am in . This in my opinion why Calvary Baptist, ND, STM, Acadiana,LCA, Many, etc . have trouble scheduling games. you should never get more points for losing as opposed to winning. Not every loss to a good team is created equal. Sometimes you show your worth and deserve power points from the game, but sometimes you don’t
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Post by indy on Jan 4, 2021 16:21:45 GMT -6
Ask Coach Cook why we don’t play. My reasoning is POWER POINTS.I believe it’s the same reason ND doesn’t schedule STM,Acadiana, or Carencro. Wouldn’t those games help ND become a better team than beating crappy old Kaplan? The gates would be good, the competition would be good, it’s just ND would have to play near perfect to have a shot to win year in and year out vs those teams. And to lose to those teams and get NO reward in the power point system is probably why games aren’t scheduled between those teams . Ask Coach Cook and get back with me. I’m not going to second guess Louie’s scheduling. Since the power points started in ‘98 he has consistently been a top 4 seed. 3A Kaplan and 2A ND have played the last 2 seasons and have the same exact results in our respective playoffs. How has this matchup hurt you? And I agree the power point system has flaws but it hasn’t hindered your ability to consistently make the semis.
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Post by fan2795 on Jan 4, 2021 17:45:40 GMT -6
Good lord, should see if LSU or the Saints have open dates There was an article in the Acadiana Advocate about the 4 state champs trying to play each other. So those other two spots could possibly end up being STM and Carencro. That would put the D1, 5A, D2, and 4A champs on the schedule. Plus a D1 team with 26 titles. Not to mention Notre Dame in district. That’s a bit much in my opinion, but like Hortdaddy said, there aren’t many choices now. STM will not play LCA. It’s been put on the table. Last year LCA and STM both had an opening week 4. But STM would not agree to schedule. This season LCA and STM were without games one week, and an agreement was reached to play, but STM withdrew. It’s more of the administration of STM blocking the game not necessarily the coaching staff. It’s personal.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jan 4, 2021 18:03:54 GMT -6
There was an article in the Acadiana Advocate about the 4 state champs trying to play each other. So those other two spots could possibly end up being STM and Carencro. That would put the D1, 5A, D2, and 4A champs on the schedule. Plus a D1 team with 26 titles. Not to mention Notre Dame in district. That’s a bit much in my opinion, but like Hortdaddy said, there aren’t many choices now. STM will not play LCA. It’s been put on the table. Last year LCA and STM both had an opening week 4. But STM would not agree to schedule. This season LCA and STM were without games one week, and an agreement was reached to play, but STM withdrew. It’s more of the administration of STM blocking the game not necessarily the coaching staff. It’s personal. I think the deal was that LCA and Acadiana both didn’t have a game that week and had just played each other. And STM had just scheduled Walker to fill their week. Acadiana and LCA asked STM to play Acadiana instead and let Walker play LCA so everyone would have a game. STM said no so LCA was left with an open week, while Acadiana was able to schedule Curtis during the week. I don’t know if the beef is with Acadiana, which some people have said there was one with the previous Acadiana coach, or with LCA (which I know nothing about) or maybe both for whatever reason. If LCA moves up to 4A, STM will have to play them. Unless they move to 5A, in which case, they would have to play Acadiana.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2021 18:10:13 GMT -6
I’m sure it will be tricky this year to schedule being just a one year deal. Wonder who Zachary will get for non-district. Hopefully the likes of Karr, STM, Ruston, Warren Easton, John Curtis, Catholic BR those would be some good games. I wouldn’t think Istrouma and Collegiate Prep would want any of that. Catholic, LCA, Acadiana, Ruston, Karr, Curtis - those guys play anybody any day. Zachary doesn't have the set to play Acadiana during the regular season. Enough said! Acadiana this past season separated themselves from the Broncos. Brewerton has sone soul searching to do. Losing to Alexandria with that squad, and all the crap that happened during the season isnt a positive trend. Acadiana is laser focused and i dont see any end in sight for the wreckarams. They have some big time talent coming up off that freshman team too. Some big uglies ans a damn good tailback/fullback who is a manchild. Zachary, in my honest opinion, was the most most talented and definitely deepest team in 5A last year, but they werent focused and the lackadaisical attitude towards the season but them in the backside. I read where a pin could be heard dropping in the press box and coaches box after losing to Alexandria. Next year is make or break for them Broncos. Entire defense returns, all of them, and elite talent on offense with a future 4 or 5 star talent in Luke Wisham. Acadiana is the team though and earned it. That is one hungry program.
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Post by coachtanklo on Jan 4, 2021 20:58:50 GMT -6
All good INDY
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Post by moveallchains on Jan 5, 2021 7:17:16 GMT -6
I understand playing good competition usually makes your team better and more prepared for the playoffs. I also believe if you're really good, you're gonna win regardless if it's a home game or an away game. I never much believed that mess about if so and so is at home, they'll win. Home or away, the better team will in all likely hood win. So if your team loses on the road, saying at home we'd of won, is a poor excuse.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jan 6, 2021 15:34:38 GMT -6
geauxrams35...sounds like it's STM that won't play y'all. Any particular reason or reasons? North La. has the BOB. Maybe south La. could start something of there on in Lafayette. Call it the Mosquito Bowl. Two games on Friday and two on Saturday. Friday I'd have Acadiana-Zachary and then Calvary-LCA. Saturday I'd have Many-Notre Dame and then STM-West Monroe. Not sure. Personally I think they see themselves as the “top dogs” in Lafayette and don’t want to do anything to endanger that title. Kinda like why they won’t go to D1 as a large 4A... it’s easy to be the top dog when you’re beating up on 3A schools. STM has never shied away from any competition, ever. You want to line it up, make the call to the AD and get something on the schedule. Your AD has his number. But you got to promise not to try and recruit our players like you have in basketball....
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Post by fisherman1 on Jan 6, 2021 18:07:26 GMT -6
Both of these Lafayette teams coaches get along very well.It is ashamed that fans for both teams can not.Both teams are the best in their class and i dont think either team is fired up about playing. it would be a great game but both teams dont need this game. they were scheduled to play in the jamboree and i think both coaches were fine with that.They will probably play next year in jamboree.Two great programs and no need for negative things.Lets enjoy the state titles and get off each others back.
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Post by jhs on Jan 9, 2021 14:31:36 GMT -6
Jennings non-district schedule:
Leesville Eunice DeRidder Iota Sterlington.
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Post by retired on Jan 9, 2021 14:54:14 GMT -6
What if it went like this: 10 points for a win, 0 for a loss 1 point for each level of classification (IE: 5 points for playing a 5A opponent, 4 for a 4A, etc) .5 points for each level of classification of opponents wins (So again, 2.5 points for a 5A win, 2 points for a 4A win, etc) So now if you schedule a West Monroe, even with a loss you're looking at: 5 points for classification 8-10 wins against 4A/5A opponents, so let's say a minimum of 18 points So now, just for scheduling West Monroe, you walk away with a probably minimum of 23 points for a LOSS. You mess around and beat em, that's 33 points. Good job. On the other hand, you feel the need to play Beekman, well here's what you get: 10 points for the win 2 points for classification 1-2 wins (let's say they're both 2A opponents, so you get 4 points) So you might get 16 points for beating Beekman if they're having a good year, but 23 at a minimum for losing to West Monroe. Let's go toward the middle of the road- You play Caldwell and beat em. 10 points for the win 3 points for classification 7 wins against mixed 1A-3A opponents, so let's say 8 points You just got 21 points for beating Caldwell, but you'd have gotten no fewer than 11 for losing to them, 12 or 13 depending on your own classification. You wanna play down some more? Well how's about Ringgold. It don't go much further down than that. 10 points for the win .5 for classification 0 points for opponents wins You'd have likely been slightly better off from a power points perspective losing to Caldwell. How about low down 5A team like Pineville? 10 for the win 2.5 for classification 5ish points for opponents wins That's 17.5ish points for beating poor ole Pineville. You might as well have just lost to WM, once again from a power points perspective. It is a good effort here, but the issue that chalmetteowl brings up will still hold true. Not all losses are created equally. In your scenarios, a team earning 23 power points for playing a game with a running clock at half time down by 40 is very different than earning 23 power points for playing a one score game with regards to the intent of the system (ie. measuring "power")
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Post by fan2795 on Jan 9, 2021 15:04:41 GMT -6
Not sure. Personally I think they see themselves as the “top dogs” in Lafayette and don’t want to do anything to endanger that title. Kinda like why they won’t go to D1 as a large 4A... it’s easy to be the top dog when you’re beating up on 3A schools. STM has never shied away from any competition, ever. You want to line it up, make the call to the AD and get something on the schedule. Your AD has his number. But you got to promise not to try and recruit our players like you have in basketball.... Never said the coaches or teams shied away from competition. I said this is due to administrators all because of the basketball player who transferred. Kids are losing out on a great opportunity to go head to head with some of the best competition right down the road over one kid’s transfer. LCA was even blocked from being invited to the 7 on 7 scrimmage tournament at STM one summer because of it. These kids just want to play.
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Post by thebamm on Jan 9, 2021 17:18:24 GMT -6
2021 Rayville Schedule
Scrim: Franklin Parish Jamb: Arcadia @jena @montgomery @lakeview Ferriday @delhi Charter Madison @vidalia @abbeville Mangham General Trass
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Jan 9, 2021 17:46:31 GMT -6
2021 Rayville Schedule Scrim: Franklin Parish Jamb: Arcadia @jena @montgomery @lakeview Ferriday @delhi Charter Madison @vidalia @abbeville Mangham General Trass Rayville to Abbeville? That’s a LONG trip for a regular season game.
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Post by thebamm on Jan 10, 2021 9:35:56 GMT -6
2021 Rayville Schedule Scrim: Franklin Parish Jamb: Arcadia @jena @montgomery @lakeview Ferriday @delhi Charter Madison @vidalia @abbeville Mangham General Trass Rayville to Abbeville? That’s a LONG trip for a regular season game. Both the HCs are Sterlington Grads, Rayville HC will start his 3rd year and Abbeville HC will start his 2nd year. But finding a week 8, I imagine is difficult.
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Post by bayoufootball965 on Jan 11, 2021 11:48:55 GMT -6
St. James non-district schedule: Week 1: TBD out of state opponent in Atlanta, Ga Week 2: West St. John Week 3: @ East St. John Week 4: @ Assumption Week 5: Karr
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Post by TheFireman89 on Jan 12, 2021 1:31:11 GMT -6
St. James non-district schedule: Week 1: TBD out of state opponent in Atlanta, Ga Week 2: West St. John Week 3: @ East St. John Week 4: @ Assumption Week 5: Karr
Thats quite the schedule
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Post by cjr3888 on Jan 12, 2021 10:08:47 GMT -6
Loreauville tentative 2021 schedule
Erath (A) North Vermilion (A) Kinder (H) Franklin (A) Kaplan (H) Red School (A) Delcambre (H) West St Mary (A) Ascension Episcopal (H) Jeanerette (H)
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