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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2021 11:16:31 GMT -6
1) Reasons it wont happen 2) Don't know why this wouldn't happen 3) You can't yell what he yelled in front of people and go be head coach at a majority black school (except in Union parish apparently) Bo Barton? Im still attempting to figure out how they lost to ED White in 2007... thats 14 years.. Loaded Rayville squad that took Bastrop to the wire and yet cant beat ED white at home. Dude has done less with more. Ouachita is used to that already.
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Post by kamala on Apr 20, 2021 11:28:26 GMT -6
Just thinking here. What about someone who hasn't been on the scene in a long time but has Pat Collins ties and would be great hire. I'm thinking of one of two guys here.
Both are in Texas. One was a long time assistant to the other, then went a little north of I-20 and was a successful head coach at a 2A school for a few years and is now back as DC under his old boss.
Both have to be close to retirement age, even if it's a slightly early retirement. Especially the head coach.
Thoughts?
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Post by longbomb on Apr 20, 2021 11:30:24 GMT -6
Middleton is a private school guy.only reason he took the west Ouachita job is because his kids go there. He is at creek now he ain't going nowhere right now.
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Post by kaelppanther on Apr 20, 2021 12:54:43 GMT -6
What are the chances Ouachita get a old coach with pedigree and wins then getting a guy like Stanley Smith as DC for a couple years and promote him when the old coach retires.
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Post by blutoblutarsky on Apr 20, 2021 12:59:12 GMT -6
What are the chances Ouachita get a old coach with pedigree and wins then getting a guy like Stanley Smith as DC for a couple years and promote him when the old coach retires. With RATT playing in the background: "Lack of--certification--lack of---certification---lack of---certification!!"
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Post by nela2000 on Apr 20, 2021 13:35:45 GMT -6
Any chance Ouachita could stay in house? What about the current OC-Kevin Davis? If not, then I'd think a guy like Marcus Yanez would be a likely candidate...also think maybe they ought to consider going outside the area.
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Post by anonymouse on Apr 20, 2021 17:30:26 GMT -6
Any chance Ouachita could stay in house? What about the current OC-Kevin Davis? If not, then I'd think a guy like Marcus Yanez would be a likely candidate...also think maybe they ought to consider going outside the area. Are those guys well qualified?
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Post by kaelppanther on Apr 20, 2021 17:37:35 GMT -6
What are the chances Ouachita get a old coach with pedigree and wins then getting a guy like Stanley Smith as DC for a couple years and promote him when the old coach retires. With RATT playing in the background: "Lack of--certification--lack of---certification---lack of---certification!!" As a DC roll he can get certified before he become HC
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Post by kaelppanther on Apr 20, 2021 17:38:54 GMT -6
Just thinking here. What about someone who hasn't been on the scene in a long time but has Pat Collins ties and would be great hire. I'm thinking of one of two guys here. Both are in Texas. One was a long time assistant to the other, then went a little north of I-20 and was a successful head coach at a 2A school for a few years and is now back as DC under his old boss. Both have to be close to retirement age, even if it's a slightly early retirement. Especially the head coach. Thoughts? John King?
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Post by blutoblutarsky on Apr 20, 2021 19:14:46 GMT -6
Just thinking here. What about someone who hasn't been on the scene in a long time but has Pat Collins ties and would be great hire. I'm thinking of one of two guys here. Both are in Texas. One was a long time assistant to the other, then went a little north of I-20 and was a successful head coach at a 2A school for a few years and is now back as DC under his old boss. Both have to be close to retirement age, even if it's a slightly early retirement. Especially the head coach. Thoughts? John King? Yes. John King or John Berry. What’s up with that face you made? King has won state titles in Texas’s biggest class. Berry is respected in Texas and Louisiana. You support a school that has had one winning season in 50 years and got beat by 60 in the playoffs and you are judging other coaches? Dude!
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Post by kaelppanther on Apr 20, 2021 19:19:52 GMT -6
John King? Yes. John King or John Berry. What’s up with that face you made? King has won state titles in Texas’s biggest class. Berry is respected in Texas and Louisiana. You support a school that has had one winning season in 50 years and got beat by 60 in the playoffs and you are judging other coaches? Dude! That face was a mistake. It was suppose to be question marks. John King would be a great fit for Ouachita. And btw I want being disrespectful so don't get disrespectful with me
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Post by kennypowers on Apr 20, 2021 19:47:46 GMT -6
King isn’t taking a pay cut to come to Ouachita. Heck, Berry probably makes more as a coordinator in Texas than a HC in Louisiana.
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Post by theduke on Apr 20, 2021 22:24:23 GMT -6
King isn’t taking a pay cut to come to Ouachita. Heck, Berry probably makes more as a coordinator in Texas than a HC in Louisiana. What about the ouchita product that coaches for coach king at Longview, last name Hamilton maybe John? Has been with coach king for several years. Want to say he’s the linebackers coach maybe even assistant ad.
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Post by whistler on Apr 21, 2021 5:12:00 GMT -6
Guys, it's a Ouachita Parish school. That means there won't be a fair interview process. They won't hire "the best man for the job". They'll hire their buddy, brother in law, nephew, kid who used to cut their grass, something like that. And a lot of it will depend on who the new principal is if the old one is retiring.
You can just about bet your boots the best applicant won't get this job. That's a fact.
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Post by bobbackland79 on Apr 21, 2021 7:27:29 GMT -6
I don't think King or Berry would leave to come back to Louisiana. King son will be at A&M. Berry could have had his picks of jobs here in Texas. I think they will hire someone whose has ties to the school and and understands Ouachita. I think for the past few years the program have underachieve, given the resource and talent the program has had. Yet I have to men outside the Ouachita circle that would be a great fit for the program.
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Post by kaelppanther on Apr 21, 2021 7:46:50 GMT -6
Guys, it's a Ouachita Parish school. That means there won't be a fair interview process. They won't hire "the best man for the job". They'll hire their buddy, brother in law, nephew, kid who used to cut their grass, something like that. And a lot of it will depend on who the new principal is if the old one is retiring. You can just about bet your boots the best applicant won't get this job. That's a fact. Not just Ouachita most schools hire who they know and someone that have ties to the school
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Post by anonymouse on Apr 22, 2021 7:34:57 GMT -6
anybody heard anything?
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Post by clubberlang on Apr 22, 2021 8:09:48 GMT -6
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Post by abbebusoni on Apr 22, 2021 21:40:05 GMT -6
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Post by coolaroola on Apr 23, 2021 6:54:54 GMT -6
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Post by clubberlang on Apr 24, 2021 9:17:54 GMT -6
Hearing Garvin is the favorite.
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Post by longbomb on Apr 24, 2021 11:27:25 GMT -6
Unless you heard that from someone in administration at Ouachita it's just opinion. Ouachita has never hired on the basis of boosters or fans .If they did fitz would have never gotten the job.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2021 15:34:42 GMT -6
Unless you heard that from someone in administration at Ouachita it's just opinion. Ouachita has never hired on the basis of boosters or fans .If they did fitz would have never gotten the job. Perfection. Administration good ol boys. Fitz with that 1-9 record before being hired. 😂
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Post by abbebusoni on Apr 24, 2021 19:23:41 GMT -6
I would imagine that they will hire a principal before the head coach. Reversing that order would be fair to neither.
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Post by retired on Apr 24, 2021 20:31:47 GMT -6
With RATT playing in the background: "Lack of--certification--lack of---certification---lack of---certification!!" As a DC roll he can get certified before he become HC If by "lack of certification", it is meant that Stanley Smith is not a certified teacher (but somehow Ferriday has hired him as a history teacher) it might come down to the HR policies or even potential teacher union issues of Ouachita. That school system / school may not be able to hire on a provisional certificate. There are some hurdles to navigate to get certified. Also, keep in mind that he would need a full time job that actually pays the bills, not just a small stipend to coordinate a HS defense.
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Post by gatemouth on Apr 26, 2021 5:07:43 GMT -6
As a DC roll he can get certified before he become HC If by "lack of certification", it is meant that Stanley Smith is not a certified teacher (but somehow Ferriday has hired him as a history teacher) it might come down to the HR policies or even potential teacher union issues of Ouachita. That school system / school may not be able to hire on a provisional certificate. There are some hurdles to navigate to get certified. Also, keep in mind that he would need a full time job that actually pays the bills, not just a small stipend to coordinate a HS defense. Stanley Smith has a 0.0% chance of becoming head coach at Ouachita high school. That name means nothing whatsoever once you get out of the Delta.
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Post by spartansibling on Apr 26, 2021 8:24:58 GMT -6
Job has already been turned down once, so they’ll go to second choice with 3rd choice in the wings. After that, if it goes further, they may be forced to accept applications. Dying programs have issues.
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Post by whistler on Apr 26, 2021 12:00:18 GMT -6
Job has already been turned down once, so they’ll go to second choice with 3rd choice in the wings. After that, if it goes further, they may be forced to accept applications. Dying programs have issues. How is the job being offered to coaches without the principal being named yet?? I would imagine the new principal already knows who he or she is and is already trying to hire their person.
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Post by longbomb on Apr 26, 2021 12:12:33 GMT -6
Most schools when a principal job comes open hire from within like Neville did with McCarty and west monroe did with there last two. So they may know who it's going to be but it's just not official yet.
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Post by anonymouse on Apr 26, 2021 12:58:44 GMT -6
Most schools when a principal job comes open hire from within like Neville did with McCarty and west monroe did with there last two. So they may know who it's going to be but it's just not official yet. Who is on staff at Ouachita who would get the job?
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