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Post by jusayin on Nov 21, 2016 10:52:01 GMT -6
Spill the beans, what LHSAA officer or office employee has kin folk on Madison Prep?
Jus'askin'
Where did this team come from in this Select/Non-Select era? They are in the backyard of the blessed LHSAA. How did all these cookie-cutter size and speed athletes show up in the same 'bordered' school zone locally, with grades? Did a legal mind family member of some Fortunate Son say, "psst, don't use a Christian type connotation in your school name".
When you hear the word PREP used in schools from other states, you do not think 'duh?'
I know S. Lab has been the new best recruiters in recent years to go along with the usual suspects.
Has Red Stick become jealous and said enough is enough and decided we must have our own All-Star team to compete like legend selects in Monroe, Shreveport, and Metairie? Have they given them some time to develop and put them in Select 2-A?
C'Mon MAAN
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Post by Raven on Nov 21, 2016 11:07:33 GMT -6
Spill the beans, what LHSAA officer or office employee has kin folk on Madison Prep? Jus'askin' Where did this team come from in this Select/Non-Select era? They are in the backyard of the blessed LHSAA. How did all these cookie-cutter size and speed athletes show up in the same 'bordered' school zone locally, with grades? Did a legal mind family member of some Fortunate Son say, "psst, don't use a Christian type connotation in your school name". When you hear the word PREP used in schools from other states, you do not think 'duh?' I know S. Lab has been the new best recruiters in recent years to go along with the usual suspects. Has Red Stick become jealous and said enough is enough and decided we must have our own All-Star team to compete like legend selects in Monroe, Shreveport, and Metairie? Have they given them some time to develop and put them in Select 2-A? C'Mon MAAN They are a public school, just like every other charter school that is in the non-select playoffs this year. I'm not saying I agree with it, but if Lake Charles Prep, Delta Charter, Karr, Landry-Walker and all the other charter schools get to play with the non-selects, why wouldn't Madison Prep?
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Post by indy on Nov 21, 2016 11:12:46 GMT -6
We will take every charter, magnet, Lab, and any public with gonads with us on the select side. Y'all keep whining till it happens. And thanks!
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Post by LATigerFan on Nov 21, 2016 12:06:00 GMT -6
It's sad this is what it has come to now days. We used to just put on pads and march out and play who ever the hell we were playing and never complained about it. Now we try to push out any successful program so everyone can get a trophy. I mean someone even made a thread about what could be done to stop Barbe baseball lol. How about practicing instead of complaining. We wonder why all these college kids are protesting, well look what the hell we are teaching them to do when they don't get their way.
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Post by jusayin on Nov 22, 2016 0:14:23 GMT -6
Yeah, it's sad. Look at Mangham's record the last several years. public schools coach what is zoned to them. Talent level and depth are will vary. Mangham was not as talented this year, as they have been many previous. Obviously, they have known to coach, how to line up, and play. They don't get beat at home 42-0 in the playoffs by any public school from 3A down until they meet 2016 class of Madison uh Prep.
You are correct. One should not whine and complain. If one does not work n practice or coach, one does not get a trophy, because one did not deserve a trophy. Just put on the pads and march out and play, ON LEVEL PLAYING FIELDS, at the school you are Zoned to.
Non select school communities built football in this state many moons before select schools existed, except maybe diocese/Catholic schools. Non select schools are not trying to push out 'successful' programs no more than select schools try to 'guarantee' they are more successful.
Wise, humble, even successful coaches know it's not about X's and O's, but business is apt to pick up when you can Select your Johnnys and Joes.
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Post by pinion on Nov 22, 2016 12:16:11 GMT -6
Yeah, it's sad. Look at Mangham's record the last several years. public schools coach what is zoned to them. Talent level and depth are will vary. Mangham was not as talented this year, as they have been many previous. Obviously, they have known to coach, how to line up, and play. They don't get beat at home 42-0 in the playoffs by any public school from 3A down until they meet 2016 class of Madison uh Prep. You are correct. One should not whine and complain. If one does not work n practice or coach, one does not get a trophy, because one did not deserve a trophy. Just put on the pads and march out and play, ON LEVEL PLAYING FIELDS, at the school you are Zoned to. Non select school communities built football in this state many moons before select schools existed, except maybe diocese/Catholic schools. Non select schools are not trying to push out 'successful' programs no more than select schools try to 'guarantee' they are more successful. Wise, humble, even successful coaches know it's not about X's and O's, but business is apt to pick up when you can Select your Johnnys and Joes. Is it about selecting kids? I thought it was because private schools cheat. Which is it/ In Caddo Parish, practically every school is in the same "zone". Meaning, I live in Blanchard (area) and my kid could go to pretty much any school in the parish. Of the 5A schools in Caddo, I think every single one of them made the playoffs this year. Every team in 1-5A made the playoffs except Southwood. So, with Southwood sitting in the middle of everything, how were they not able to make the playoffs? How have the only won 1 (yes, one) game in the last 2 seasons? I mean, they can draw kids from all over the parish. And, according to you, being able to "select" kids means you should be winning. So what the heck is going on at Southwood to where they can barely manage to win 1 game in 2 seasons? How is that possible? If you can pick which kids are going to your school, Southwood should at least be making the playoffs. But they can't even hardly win a game. That leads me to believe that success isn't about how you get your kids. But more on how you run your program and what you run it with.
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Post by eag on Nov 22, 2016 13:55:26 GMT -6
Yeah, it's sad. Look at Mangham's record the last several years. public schools coach what is zoned to them. Talent level and depth are will vary. Mangham was not as talented this year, as they have been many previous. Obviously, they have known to coach, how to line up, and play. They don't get beat at home 42-0 in the playoffs by any public school from 3A down until they meet 2016 class of Madison uh Prep. You are correct. One should not whine and complain. If one does not work n practice or coach, one does not get a trophy, because one did not deserve a trophy. Just put on the pads and march out and play, ON LEVEL PLAYING FIELDS, at the school you are Zoned to. Non select school communities built football in this state many moons before select schools existed, except maybe diocese/Catholic schools. Non select schools are not trying to push out 'successful' programs no more than select schools try to 'guarantee' they are more successful. Wise, humble, even successful coaches know it's not about X's and O's, but business is apt to pick up when you can Select your Johnnys and Joes. Yep. And thank God that the ONLY factor in level playing fields is public/ private status. Thank God that if you level that one factor you have solved the issues of parity. I mean, just look at the records. EVERY SINGLE select school is better than EVERY SINGLE non-select, consistently. It it would be much more difficult to break down if things like coaching stability, participation level among the student body, community support, off-season program participation, and developmental programs at or below the jr high level were factors. Thank God those have nothing to do with it. If they did, we'd see WM, Neville, Many, Kinder, Karr, Kentwood, Haynesville having tons of success. But sadly, those guys just can't compete with Pope John Paul, Sacred Heart, St Michaels, Northlake Christian, Hannah, ED White, Holy Cross, Houma Christian, Christian Life, BenFranklin, Ridgewood, St John etc. But at least there are people with brilliant powers of analysis out there who have been able to identify the one, SINGLE factor that irrevocably leads to success. Because of their insight, all our high school ball players now are playing on level ground.
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Post by mt on Nov 23, 2016 14:34:39 GMT -6
Spill the beans, what LHSAA officer or office employee has kin folk on Madison Prep? Jus'askin' Where did this team come from in this Select/Non-Select era? They are in the backyard of the blessed LHSAA. How did all these cookie-cutter size and speed athletes show up in the same 'bordered' school zone locally, with grades? Did a legal mind family member of some Fortunate Son say, "psst, don't use a Christian type connotation in your school name". When you hear the word PREP used in schools from other states, you do not think 'duh?' I know S. Lab has been the new best recruiters in recent years to go along with the usual suspects. Has Red Stick become jealous and said enough is enough and decided we must have our own All-Star team to compete like legend selects in Monroe, Shreveport, and Metairie? Have they given them some time to develop and put them in Select 2-A? C'Mon MAAN Hahahahahaha this is so funny. Let's just let the kids play. In the select/Non-Select era, in the school of choice era. In the era where schools are being completely shut down, just let the boys play. Prep did come out of nowhere but is a blue ribbon school in an area that's ripe with talent and no normal public school within 8-10 miles. The feeder school has been around longer no doubt. As for the Lab/Scotlandville/Madison Prep thing, it's pretty simple that people in these and surrounding area don't want there kids to go to the schools they may be zoned in. Whether is for academics or athletics, it's a choice. Let's run down the options they have. Belaire-Failing Glen Oaks-Failing Tara-Failing Lee-just reopened recently Capitol-closed and now Friendship(a charter) Istrouma-closed but will reopen. Broadmoor-Failing Of those schools, Only Istrouma and Friendship are in close proximity to MPA. That's probably 1500-2000 kids(being modest) that have to be bused to a school not close to there homes. Shouldn't be that way in a highly populated city, but it is. Glen Oaks is a shell of what it once was. In Baton Rouge the issue is bigger than sports. Needs to get the education part together first.
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Post by indy on Nov 23, 2016 14:39:55 GMT -6
Spill the beans, what LHSAA officer or office employee has kin folk on Madison Prep? Jus'askin' Where did this team come from in this Select/Non-Select era? They are in the backyard of the blessed LHSAA. How did all these cookie-cutter size and speed athletes show up in the same 'bordered' school zone locally, with grades? Did a legal mind family member of some Fortunate Son say, "psst, don't use a Christian type connotation in your school name". When you hear the word PREP used in schools from other states, you do not think 'duh?' I know S. Lab has been the new best recruiters in recent years to go along with the usual suspects. Has Red Stick become jealous and said enough is enough and decided we must have our own All-Star team to compete like legend selects in Monroe, Shreveport, and Metairie? Have they given them some time to develop and put them in Select 2-A? C'Mon MAAN Hahahahahaha this is so funny. Let's just let the kids play. In the select/Non-Select era, in the school of choice era. In the era where schools are being completely shut down, just let the boys play. Prep did come out of nowhere but is a blue ribbon school in an area that's ripe with talent and no normal public school within 8-10 miles. The feeder school has been around longer no doubt. As for the Lab/Scotlandville/Madison Prep thing, it's pretty simple that people in these and surrounding area don't want there kids to go to the schools they may be zoned in. Whether is for academics or athletics, it's a choice. Let's run down the options they have. Belaire-Failing Glen Oaks-Failing Tara-Failing Lee-just reopened recently Capitol-closed and now Friendship(a charter) Istrouma-closed but will reopen. Broadmoor-Failing Of those schools, Only Istrouma and Friendship are in close proximity to MPA. That's probably 1500-2000 kids(being modest) that have to be bused to a school not close to there homes. Shouldn't be that way in a highly populated city, but it is. Glen Oaks is a shell of what it once was. In Baton Rouge the issue is bigger than sports. Needs to get the education part together first. Funny how when they get good at sports the s want them out!
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Post by 1stdown on Nov 23, 2016 15:22:40 GMT -6
Yeah, some select s are "trophy hunting" and taking advantage of the ones they badmouth.
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Post by indy on Nov 23, 2016 15:33:12 GMT -6
Yeah, some select s are "trophy hunting" and taking advantage of the ones they badmouth. Funny coming from a kinder fan, kings of the movement. Geez
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Post by 1stdown on Nov 23, 2016 16:04:48 GMT -6
Yeah, some select s are "trophy hunting" and taking advantage of the ones they badmouth. Funny coming from a kinder fan, kings of the movement. Geez Lol, here we go again, told you yaw just like us.
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Post by mt on Nov 23, 2016 16:11:07 GMT -6
Hahahahahaha this is so funny. Let's just let the kids play. In the select/Non-Select era, in the school of choice era. In the era where schools are being completely shut down, just let the boys play. Prep did come out of nowhere but is a blue ribbon school in an area that's ripe with talent and no normal public school within 8-10 miles. The feeder school has been around longer no doubt. As for the Lab/Scotlandville/Madison Prep thing, it's pretty simple that people in these and surrounding area don't want there kids to go to the schools they may be zoned in. Whether is for academics or athletics, it's a choice. Let's run down the options they have. Belaire-Failing Glen Oaks-Failing Tara-Failing Lee-just reopened recently Capitol-closed and now Friendship(a charter) Istrouma-closed but will reopen. Broadmoor-Failing Of those schools, Only Istrouma and Friendship are in close proximity to MPA. That's probably 1500-2000 kids(being modest) that have to be bused to a school not close to there homes. Shouldn't be that way in a highly populated city, but it is. Glen Oaks is a shell of what it once was. In Baton Rouge the issue is bigger than sports. Needs to get the education part together first. Funny how when they get good at sports the s want them out! Sooner or later I'm gonna figure out the lingo of and what it means 😂😂😂
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Post by LATigerFan on Nov 23, 2016 16:17:18 GMT -6
He's calling non select because they dodging the private schools in the playoffs
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Post by 1stdown on Nov 23, 2016 16:35:26 GMT -6
Or some select s, dominating their division to get a trophy instead of playing up in the next division were they would maybe not go undefeated every year. Some on both sides.
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Post by mt on Nov 23, 2016 16:36:04 GMT -6
He's calling non select because they dodging the private schools in the playoffs Ahhhhh got it lol. Thanks fellas
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Post by mt on Nov 23, 2016 16:37:53 GMT -6
Or some select s, dominating their division to get a trophy instead of playing up in the next division were they would maybe not go undefeated every year. Some on both sides. Very true
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Post by chalmetteowl on Nov 23, 2016 16:53:23 GMT -6
Or some select s, dominating their division to get a trophy instead of playing up in the next division were they would maybe not go undefeated every year. Some on both sides. it's NEVER dodging for a 2A school to play 2A...
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Post by laprepfb on Nov 23, 2016 17:51:09 GMT -6
Barbe and Neville are also beneficiaries of the failing school loophole. I dare say both rosters are full of kids who live in the LaGrange, Washington-Marion, Carroll and Wossman school districts.
Neither are violating any rules to my knowledge, but this is just another example of some schools having advantages that others don't - and the tuition at both schools is $0.
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Post by 1stdown on Nov 23, 2016 18:13:39 GMT -6
Or some select s, dominating their division to get a trophy instead of playing up in the next division were they would maybe not go undefeated every year. Some on both sides. it's NEVER dodging for a 2A school to play 2A... So John curtis should be in 2a?
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Post by LATigerFan on Nov 23, 2016 18:25:32 GMT -6
it's NEVER dodging for a 2A school to play 2A... So John curtis should be in 2a? They have 2A numbers so technically yeah but JC always elected to play up
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Post by 1stdown on Nov 23, 2016 18:45:30 GMT -6
They have 2A numbers so technically yeah but JC always elected to play up I know. Stirring the pot.
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Post by LATigerFan on Nov 23, 2016 18:47:54 GMT -6
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Post by pinion on Nov 29, 2016 21:28:27 GMT -6
Barbe and Neville are also beneficiaries of the failing school loophole. I dare say both rosters are full of kids who live in the LaGrange, Washington-Marion, Carroll and Wossman school districts. Neither are violating any rules to my knowledge, but this is just another example of some schools having advantages that others don't - and the tuition at both schools is $0. It's interesting that nobody has replied to your comment. Kind of telling actually. Very hard to make a case against what you said.
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Post by laprepfb on Nov 30, 2016 8:10:31 GMT -6
Barbe and Neville are also beneficiaries of the failing school loophole. I dare say both rosters are full of kids who live in the LaGrange, Washington-Marion, Carroll and Wossman school districts. Neither are violating any rules to my knowledge, but this is just another example of some schools having advantages that others don't - and the tuition at both schools is $0. It's interesting that nobody has replied to your comment. Kind of telling actually. Very hard to make a case against what you said. This was in "The Informer" column in today's Lake Charles American Press... 27 PLAYERS AT SCHOOL FROM OUTSIDE DISTRICT How many Barbe High School football players come from outside the Barbe High School district? “Of the 94 players on the Barbe High School football team, 27 of them are from outside of the Barbe district,” Holly Holland, spokeswoman for the Calcasieu Parish school system, wrote in an email. Again, they are not to my knowledge doing anything illegal. I'm simply saying that there are many cases where the "Public schools have to play with just the kids from our zone." crowd are dead wrong.
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Post by iknownuthing on Nov 30, 2016 8:44:07 GMT -6
It's interesting that nobody has replied to your comment. Kind of telling actually. Very hard to make a case against what you said. This was in "The Informer" column in today's Lake Charles American Press... 27 PLAYERS AT SCHOOL FROM OUTSIDE DISTRICT How many Barbe High School football players come from outside the Barbe High School district? “Of the 94 players on the Barbe High School football team, 27 of them are from outside of the Barbe district,” Holly Holland, spokeswoman for the Calcasieu Parish school system, wrote in an email. Again, they are not to my knowledge doing anything illegal. I'm simply saying that there are many cases where the "Public schools have to play with just the kids from our zone." crowd are dead wrong. This is nothing new. Where would you like your kid to go to school athlete or not. Barbe with the best facilities and the highest academic standards of any public school in the Parish? (also with the most money from the school board) Or Washington Marion? And this will get worse as LC is busting at the seems right now with one of the fastest growing economies in the state. WM went down to 3A and the Charter school up to 2A.
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Post by indy on Nov 30, 2016 8:55:03 GMT -6
This was in "The Informer" column in today's Lake Charles American Press... 27 PLAYERS AT SCHOOL FROM OUTSIDE DISTRICT How many Barbe High School football players come from outside the Barbe High School district? “Of the 94 players on the Barbe High School football team, 27 of them are from outside of the Barbe district,” Holly Holland, spokeswoman for the Calcasieu Parish school system, wrote in an email. Again, they are not to my knowledge doing anything illegal. I'm simply saying that there are many cases where the "Public schools have to play with just the kids from our zone." crowd are dead wrong. This is nothing new. Where would you like your kid to go to school athlete or not. Barbe with the best facilities and the highest academic standards of any public school in the Parish? (also with the most money from the school board) Or Washington Marion? And this will get worse as LC is busting at the seems right now with one of the fastest growing economies in the state. WM went down to 3A and the Charter school up to 2A. The charter went from 1a to 3a
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Post by pinion on Nov 30, 2016 12:15:38 GMT -6
It's interesting that nobody has replied to your comment. Kind of telling actually. Very hard to make a case against what you said. This was in "The Informer" column in today's Lake Charles American Press... 27 PLAYERS AT SCHOOL FROM OUTSIDE DISTRICT How many Barbe High School football players come from outside the Barbe High School district? “Of the 94 players on the Barbe High School football team, 27 of them are from outside of the Barbe district,” Holly Holland, spokeswoman for the Calcasieu Parish school system, wrote in an email. Again, they are not to my knowledge doing anything illegal. I'm simply saying that there are many cases where the "Public schools have to play with just the kids from our zone." crowd are dead wrong. I agree, I don't think they're doing anything wrong at all. In fact, I'd make the argument that they're doing it right. When kids are showing up at your school from another zone, it's not because you're handing out ice cream. It's because the parents (whom should be making those choices) are deciding what's best for their kids. Instead of punishing Barbe because kids are showing up, the school board needs to be asking why are kids leaving other schools to come there and then address those problems. As far as I can tell the problem has never been kids coming from out of the zone, the problem has always been with how to stop that from happening. Rather than creating more red tape, fix what's causing them to leave in the first place. When I left a public school to go to ECA, it wasn't to play football. I realize there are kids that leave 1 school to play a sport at another. But I'd venture a bet that most leave for reasons other than sports.
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Post by btown on Nov 30, 2016 15:05:25 GMT -6
This was in "The Informer" column in today's Lake Charles American Press... 27 PLAYERS AT SCHOOL FROM OUTSIDE DISTRICT How many Barbe High School football players come from outside the Barbe High School district? “Of the 94 players on the Barbe High School football team, 27 of them are from outside of the Barbe district,” Holly Holland, spokeswoman for the Calcasieu Parish school system, wrote in an email. Again, they are not to my knowledge doing anything illegal. I'm simply saying that there are many cases where the "Public schools have to play with just the kids from our zone." crowd are dead wrong. I agree, I don't think they're doing anything wrong at all. In fact, I'd make the argument that they're doing it right. When kids are showing up at your school from another zone, it's not because you're handing out ice cream. It's because the parents (whom should be making those choices) are deciding what's best for their kids. Instead of punishing Barbe because kids are showing up, the school board needs to be asking why are kids leaving other schools to come there and then address those problems. As far as I can tell the problem has never been kids coming from out of the zone, the problem has always been with how to stop that from happening. Rather than creating more red tape, fix what's causing them to leave in the first place. When I left a public school to go to ECA, it wasn't to play football. I realize there are kids that leave 1 school to play a sport at another. But I'd venture a bet that most leave for reasons other than sports. When you put thing that way no one can find a argument with what you say. Maybe the best thing is to dissolve the LHSAA and start over. To many rules that have come from issue after issue. The system has to made simpler.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Nov 30, 2016 15:10:32 GMT -6
I agree, I don't think they're doing anything wrong at all. In fact, I'd make the argument that they're doing it right. When kids are showing up at your school from another zone, it's not because you're handing out ice cream. It's because the parents (whom should be making those choices) are deciding what's best for their kids. Instead of punishing Barbe because kids are showing up, the school board needs to be asking why are kids leaving other schools to come there and then address those problems. As far as I can tell the problem has never been kids coming from out of the zone, the problem has always been with how to stop that from happening. Rather than creating more red tape, fix what's causing them to leave in the first place. When I left a public school to go to ECA, it wasn't to play football. I realize there are kids that leave 1 school to play a sport at another. But I'd venture a bet that most leave for reasons other than sports. When you put thing that way no one can find a argument with what you say. Maybe the best thing is to dissolve the LHSAA and start over. To many rules that have come from issue after issue. The system has to made simpler. btown I agree on things need to be made simpler, not sure if the current leadership (Staff or Principals) could be trusted to do this. If you know of a way please let us all know.
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