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Post by evergreen on Nov 13, 2017 9:21:50 GMT -6
There is a solve for this ,but no one wants to ever go against what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2017 10:13:59 GMT -6
Only sw. Louisiana schools in 3a would be Kinder, Welsh, DQ, rosepine, Pickering. Oakdale, East beau, lake arthur,vinton,all in 2a. Kinda on an island in sw louisiana, by splitting it like this. Unless Ville Platte, mamou, Nd,CNI,kinder, Welsh, DQ played in the same district and rosepine and Pickering went North. Don't think there's anyone up there to make a district with. We have 5 classes now for district and 9 (nine) for playoffs so what's wrong with 5 or even better 4 classes for district? Make life easier not harder. This is the only way it would get done. Keep the 5 classes, because it takes a two/thirds vote to change classes. But you could make the football playoffs 7 "divisions" without changing the classes. This would only take 50%+1......and only football schools could vote. I like it. Get a principal to propose it!
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 13, 2017 22:02:05 GMT -6
These 7 classes would make for some very interesting playoffs
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Post by thewood34 on Nov 13, 2017 23:23:43 GMT -6
Looks ok to me. Here's yiur Northern District: West Monroe Byrd Captain Shreve Airline Southwood Evangel Pineville You could put Pineville down in a District in Lake Charles/Lafayette area with Barbe, Acadiana, Sulfur, Comeaux, Lafayette, & New Iberia You know West Monroe ain't trying to play Evangel every year.
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 14, 2017 0:52:59 GMT -6
Looks ok to me. Here's yiur Northern District: West Monroe Byrd Captain Shreve Airline Southwood Evangel Pineville You could put Pineville down in a District in Lake Charles/Lafayette area with Barbe, Acadiana, Sulfur, Comeaux, Lafayette, & New Iberia You know West Monroe ain't trying to play Evangel every year. Hmmmmmm!
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Post by america on Nov 14, 2017 7:34:55 GMT -6
It could work! Anything to get back to a more complete state competition again! Good job on preparing this! In my humble opinion...
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Post by Raven on Nov 22, 2017 11:31:21 GMT -6
For those of you who are interested, I made a list of possible districts based on the 7 classes as broken down by Southplaq. There were a few challenging areas but I think I got at least 4 teams in each district, with a maximum of 7 in a few areas that were not easily separated. Attachment DeletedIt's fun to speculate about and I had some extra time on my hands. Let me know if the attachment worked. With 7 classes, the playoff brackets could be whittled down to 16 teams. Each district champion would get in and then the next open spots could be filled by the teams with the highest power points. Or maybe some kind of wild-card playoff round could be implemented. If there are 8 districts in a class, each district champ gets a bye while the next 16 highest seeds play the first round to see who gets to make it in. In a 9-district class, there would only be 7 wild card games, so only the top 14 power point wild card teams would compete in the first round. It's a little convoluted, but a way to get more teams and fans involved and to bring in more money for the LHSAA. You know they'd go for that.
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 22, 2017 11:44:42 GMT -6
For those of you who are interested, I made a list of possible districts based on the 7 classes as broken down by Southplaq. There were a few challenging areas but I think I got at least 4 teams in each district, with a maximum of 7 in a few areas that were not easily separated. View AttachmentIt's fun to speculate about and I had some extra time on my hands. Let me know if the attachment worked. With 7 classes, the playoff brackets could be whittled down to 16 teams. Each district champion would get in and then the next open spots could be filled by the teams with the highest power points. Or maybe some kind of wild-card playoff round could be implemented. If there are 8 districts in a class, each district champ gets a bye while the next 16 highest seeds play the first round to see who gets to make it in. In a 9-district class, there would only be 7 wild card games, so only the top 14 power point wild card teams would compete in the first round. It's a little convoluted, but a way to get more teams and fans involved and to bring in more money for the LHSAA. You know they'd go for that. Awesome work bro!!! Looks good
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Post by indy on Nov 22, 2017 13:47:09 GMT -6
For those of you who are interested, I made a list of possible districts based on the 7 classes as broken down by Southplaq. There were a few challenging areas but I think I got at least 4 teams in each district, with a maximum of 7 in a few areas that were not easily separated. View AttachmentIt's fun to speculate about and I had some extra time on my hands. Let me know if the attachment worked. With 7 classes, the playoff brackets could be whittled down to 16 teams. Each district champion would get in and then the next open spots could be filled by the teams with the highest power points. Or maybe some kind of wild-card playoff round could be implemented. If there are 8 districts in a class, each district champ gets a bye while the next 16 highest seeds play the first round to see who gets to make it in. In a 9-district class, there would only be 7 wild card games, so only the top 14 power point wild card teams would compete in the first round. It's a little convoluted, but a way to get more teams and fans involved and to bring in more money for the LHSAA. You know they'd go for that. Good work and great thoughts. But 5 classes is part of the LHSAA bylaws and would take 2/3 vote to change, so for district purposes 5 classes will have to do. But for a change in playoff structure it would take a simply majority, so 7 brackets in place of 9 is doable.
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Post by pinion on Nov 22, 2017 21:29:13 GMT -6
Too many of y'all think that ECA (and probably Curtis) give a rip about playing in-state teams. Would ECA have a problem getting in-state games without a district? yes. Because there are too many hurt butts and chickens in the state. That's just fact. ECA would just have to travel about working out deals with Texas and Arkansas. From a football numbers perspective, it would serve them better than having to play the teams in their district. EastTexas would toss out 5 and 6A teams that would steam roll most 5A teams in Louisiana anyway. The competition would just make ECA that much better. ECA could play: Tyler Lee, John Tyler, Marshall, Longview, Texas High, Arkansas High, Liberty-Eylau, Lufkin, a DFW team, and sprinkle in the occasional La team that has a pair and they have a full season. On any given year, most of those teams are going to be much more of a challenge to ECA than most of the 5A teams in NW-La. Honestly, I think if it came down to it, West Monroe would play ECA if districts went away.
Are ECA and Curtis the reason for all the of the mess with football in the state? Yep. Because rather than look at and address the actual problems, it's easier to focus on a small minority and just blame them. Honestly, I think if ECA has never went to 5A, none of this would have ever happened. Everyone was happy with Curtis owning 4A. And really, I think most folks were okay with ECA owning 3A. The problem was that ECA had bigger ambitions and some teams in 5A couldn't keep from calling them out. So when ECA showed up and started skulldragging everyone, people got their panties in a twist. And instead of playing up, they played sissy.
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Post by pinion on Nov 22, 2017 21:41:40 GMT -6
My feelings won't be hurt bro. Lol We can agree to disagree. I think they fear those schools, its simple as that. i can't speak for ECA because I'm not familiar with them, but if you think Curtis goes out and gets the best talent in the area then you are very unaware of what's going on, but I'm not here to defend Curtis, I'm only here to tell you what I see Day in and day out on the playground at PE, when the 3rd, 4th, 5th, and 6th graders go at it in full pads on the football field, running the same plays as the high school, to perfect their game. And my guess is that Evangel does the same. I don't know the answer to this but I do wonder if those same kids that put on pads in the 3,4,5 grades are the same ones that put on the pads as 12th graders. If it is then I will agree that they have one heck of a program, my suspicion is a large percent of the HS team has not attended school very many years there. I may be wrong and apologize if I am, I did run the numbers on the OCS team from 2016 that had 15 srs on it. of those 8 attended from pre-k through through 12. 3 attended from 5th on and the remainder started at later dates. I can find these numbers year by year if need be. I think this could be a factor in determining whether a school is a football factory or not. Just a thought and not a jab. You're right. A percentage of the kids in HS perhaps did not attend Curtis and ECA in grade school. But they played with "youth-league" teams that were associated with the schools. Mine played with a youth league team his 6th grade year and he went to a public middle school. He didn't start at ECA until his 7th grade year. But one thing is for sure, NOBODY at *random Louisiana Public High* went there in grade school. Sometimes the silliness of the local school board comes into play. For instance, I went to a public middle school in Shreveport that was a feeder for Southwood, Woodlawn, and Shreve. How was that middle school going to help those players for when they got to any of those high schools? I mean, the fundamentals, sure. But not much in the way of how the program is set up because they were feeding 3 schools. Then take into account that some of those kids I went to middle school with also ended up at Huntington and Byrd. At the same time I was at that middle school, Linwood Middle school was sending kids to Woodlawn, Byrd, and Shreve. Youree Drive middle school was sending kids to Byrd, Shreve, and Woodlawn. Bethune Middle was sending kids to BTW, FairPark, and Green Oaks. And you get my drift. A few years later, kids from all of those schools were playing youth league ball and preparing to play at ECA. And Byrd, and every other school in Caddo Parish. It's not all that unusual for a parent to wait until high school to send their kid to a certain public or private school.
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Post by northwebsterfan on Nov 22, 2017 22:22:41 GMT -6
I see fairpark on there. There is no fairpark any more.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Nov 24, 2017 8:12:39 GMT -6
For those of you who are interested, I made a list of possible districts based on the 7 classes as broken down by Southplaq. There were a few challenging areas but I think I got at least 4 teams in each district, with a maximum of 7 in a few areas that were not easily separated. It's fun to speculate about and I had some extra time on my hands. Let me know if the attachment worked. With 7 classes, the playoff brackets could be whittled down to 16 teams. Each district champion would get in and then the next open spots could be filled by the teams with the highest power points. Or maybe some kind of wild-card playoff round could be implemented. If there are 8 districts in a class, each district champ gets a bye while the next 16 highest seeds play the first round to see who gets to make it in. In a 9-district class, there would only be 7 wild card games, so only the top 14 power point wild card teams would compete in the first round. It's a little convoluted, but a way to get more teams and fans involved and to bring in more money for the LHSAA. You know they'd go for that. I would do your 7A differently 1-7A- Airline, Captain Shreve, Byrd, Evangel, Pineville, Southwood, WM 2-7A- Acadiana, Barbe, Lafayette, New Iberia, Comeaux, Sulphur 3-7A- Catholic, Dutchtown, East Ascension, McKinley, St. Amant, Zachary, Denham Springs, Walker 4-7A- Hammond, Ponchatoula, Covington, Slidell, Northshore, St. Paul's, Fontainebleau, Mandeville 5-7A- Chalmette, Grace King, John Ehret, West Jefferson, H.L. Bourgeois, Hahnville, Thibodaux 6-7A- Rummel, Shaw, Curtis, Jesuit, Brother Martin, Holy Cross, St. Augustine
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