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Post by mt on Jul 23, 2019 5:13:50 GMT -6
I don’t disagree, there’s more to this than meets the eye. I’d have to guess his choices came down to LCA, Walker, Zachary. Zachary in the strongest position MT will the schools down there turn Zachary in as they do up here 🤔.. JKlee told me Zacharys freshman team coming up is going to be loaded. So, they will just reload next season like they did when Scott and his class graduated. Zachary is going nowhere any time soon. They have a system in place from the pop warner leagues on up. Add to the fact they have no competition up there for kids and you can see why. They truly took the West Monroe model and bought it to Baton Rouge. Nobody will turn them in, all the prominent coaches here that win are from the same tree which is the Dale Weiner tree. Brewerton, Ferttita, Sid Edwards, Chad Mahaffey, Neil Weiner, Guy Mistretta were all once in the same staff if I’m not mistaken. All those guys have rings as head coaches besides Neil who’s at Dunham. UHigh new coach was on Mahaffey staff. Those six coaches I name pretty much run HSFB in Baton Rouge right now, all have had success, all are friends. And if we are playing six degrees of separation all these guys from the Weiner tree who’s off the Jim Hightower tree if I’m not mistaken. Now I think about it, STM May have supported the move to Zachary
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Post by CLEAN on Jul 23, 2019 6:13:26 GMT -6
I was a big NISH follower in 2013 when they played Zachary in the second round. I thought NISH would handle them. That was when Zachary started their reign of terror. I really didn’t know anything about them until then First time I ever heard about them was in 2005. I bought the Louisiana Football Magazine every year and remember reading an article about the growth and potential out there. That season was to be one of their best teams according to the book. They played Ouachita in the quarters I believe and lost on a wild play at the end when Jimmy Young broke a slip screen down for a touchdown with about 20 seconds remaining or so. They seemed to disappear for awhile after that up until Lindsey Scott's junior year they took Acadiana to the limit in a low scoring game. I had been paying attention to them all season but didn't know much more than they seemed salty. They lost to Acadiana 9-6 I believe before Acadiana beat Destrehan I think. Year after that the terror began. Brewerton second season and he has never not gone any farther than the semifinals 🤤 I remember Jimmy Young. He was cut out of granite. I dated a Ouachita teacher when Josh Strong was there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 18:09:58 GMT -6
First time I ever heard about them was in 2005. I bought the Louisiana Football Magazine every year and remember reading an article about the growth and potential out there. That season was to be one of their best teams according to the book. They played Ouachita in the quarters I believe and lost on a wild play at the end when Jimmy Young broke a slip screen down for a touchdown with about 20 seconds remaining or so. They seemed to disappear for awhile after that up until Lindsey Scott's junior year they took Acadiana to the limit in a low scoring game. I had been paying attention to them all season but didn't know much more than they seemed salty. They lost to Acadiana 9-6 I believe before Acadiana beat Destrehan I think. Year after that the terror began. Brewerton second season and he has never not gone any farther than the semifinals 🤤 I remember Jimmy Young. He was cut out of granite. I dated a Ouachita teacher when Josh Strong was there. I won't ask who, because I will know her 😁... Best Ouachita team since 1996.
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Post by CLEAN on Jul 23, 2019 19:21:44 GMT -6
I was working for PelicanPreps then.
I went to both Bastrop games, all the home games, and at Sterlington.
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Post by CLEAN on Jul 23, 2019 19:22:56 GMT -6
She stayed around the block from Coach Carr in Swartz. 👍🏿
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2019 20:02:03 GMT -6
She stayed around the block from Coach Carr in Swartz. 👍🏿 Yea, we all know her man.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 8:22:11 GMT -6
MT will the schools down there turn Zachary in as they do up here 🤔.. JKlee told me Zacharys freshman team coming up is going to be loaded. So, they will just reload next season like they did when Scott and his class graduated. Zachary is going nowhere any time soon. They have a system in place from the pop warner leagues on up. Add to the fact they have no competition up there for kids and you can see why. They truly took the West Monroe model and bought it to Baton Rouge. Nobody will turn them in, all the prominent coaches here that win are from the same tree which is the Dale Weiner tree. Brewerton, Ferttita, Sid Edwards, Chad Mahaffey, Neil Weiner, Guy Mistretta were all once in the same staff if I’m not mistaken. All those guys have rings as head coaches besides Neil who’s at Dunham. UHigh new coach was on Mahaffey staff. Those six coaches I name pretty much run HSFB in Baton Rouge right now, all have had success, all are friends. And if we are playing six degrees of separation all these guys from the Weiner tree who’s off the Jim Hightower tree if I’m not mistaken. Now I think about it, STM May have supported the move to Zachary Yep. The Zachary Jr Broncos are loaded. And the Weiner clan runs high school football here.
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Post by indy on Jul 25, 2019 8:29:11 GMT -6
I’m wondering how long it will be before we have trades in high school. It seems like STM should have gotten a wide receiver for Holstein, or a future player to be named later.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2019 9:39:03 GMT -6
I’m wondering how long it will be before we have trades in high school. It seems like STM should have gotten a wide receiver for Holstein, or a future player to be named later. Hey I’m not opposed to that idea!!! 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Southplaq on Jul 26, 2019 11:53:00 GMT -6
I'm sure all of these are "legal" moves that were approved by the LHSAA
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 13:18:11 GMT -6
I'm sure all of these are "legal" moves that were approved by the LHSAA I'm enjoying seeing the reactions. Remember North Louisiana has been dealing with this phenomenon for decades. Now it seems Baton Rouge is about to experience what a powerhouse-nationally recognized now-public non select school will receive for their status. Main reason I brought this to the boards attention. The monster was prophesied by MT and fell on depth ears mostly, except myself and a few others. Now they are about to run roughshod over non select for years.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 26, 2019 16:32:21 GMT -6
I'm sure all of these are "legal" moves that were approved by the LHSAA I'm enjoying seeing the reactions. Remember North Louisiana has been dealing with this phenomenon for decades. Now it seems Baton Rouge is about to experience what a powerhouse-nationally recognized now-public non select school will receive for their status. Main reason I brought this to the boards attention. The monster was prophesied by MT and fell on depth ears mostly, except myself and a few others. Now they are about to run roughshod over non select for years. Zachary has too much select competition in BR to just pencil them in every year at this time. You can't compare them to West Monroe at all
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 16:42:35 GMT -6
I'm enjoying seeing the reactions. Remember North Louisiana has been dealing with this phenomenon for decades. Now it seems Baton Rouge is about to experience what a powerhouse-nationally recognized now-public non select school will receive for their status. Main reason I brought this to the boards attention. The monster was prophesied by MT and fell on depth ears mostly, except myself and a few others. Now they are about to run roughshod over non select for years. Zachary has too much select competition in BR to just pencil them in every year at this time. You can't compare them to West Monroe at all West Monroe competes with a bigger behemoth than anyone Zachary need worry about. Neville high school football. That massive offensive tackle they picked up this summer? Andrew Whitworth transferred from OCS to WM. As did Tommy Banks. Now these boys are headed to McCarty and Neville as his players are shining in college. Absolutely EVERYTHING else compares to WM. EVERYTHING
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 26, 2019 16:46:56 GMT -6
Zachary has too much select competition in BR to just pencil them in every year at this time. You can't compare them to West Monroe at all West Monroe competes with a bigger behemoth than anyone Zachary need worry about. Neville high school football. That massive offensive tackle they picked up this summer? Andrew Whitworth transferred from OCS to WM. As did Tommy Banks. Now these boys are headed to McCarty and Neville as his players are shining in college. Absolutely EVERYTHING else compares to WM. EVERYTHING in Monroe it's WM and Neville and then not much else now... BR and NOLA have too much competition for Zachary to always get the best kids. What if Central gets better? What if Walker is indeed the next big thing? Catholic and U High are beasts, and Scotlandville and Madison Prep and Southern Lab can be too
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 17:04:43 GMT -6
West Monroe competes with a bigger behemoth than anyone Zachary need worry about. Neville high school football. That massive offensive tackle they picked up this summer? Andrew Whitworth transferred from OCS to WM. As did Tommy Banks. Now these boys are headed to McCarty and Neville as his players are shining in college. Absolutely EVERYTHING else compares to WM. EVERYTHING in Monroe it's WM and Neville and then not much else now... BR and NOLA have too much competition for Zachary to always get the best kids. What if Central gets better? What if Walker is indeed the next big thing? Catholic and U High are beasts, and Scotlandville and Madison Prep and Southern Lab can be too Then why aren't the transfers going there? Plus the population numbers blow Monroe and West Monroe completely out of the water. Scarce numbers here and a remarkable amount more down there in comparison. Zachary will always have the kids now and these transfer solidify their arrival. Take the two Madison prep players this year who are power 5 players. Zachary has one in Sean Burrell and two sopre next year in Jeremiah Grimes and Connor Wisham that will be Power 5 players with ease themselves. Too many players is their problem. Zachary isn't in need of ballplayers and won't as long as that staff and community stays put.
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Post by indy on Jul 26, 2019 20:20:31 GMT -6
in Monroe it's WM and Neville and then not much else now... BR and NOLA have too much competition for Zachary to always get the best kids. What if Central gets better? What if Walker is indeed the next big thing? Catholic and U High are beasts, and Scotlandville and Madison Prep and Southern Lab can be too Then why aren't the transfers going there? Plus the population numbers blow Monroe and West Monroe completely out of the water. Scarce numbers here and a remarkable amount more down there in comparison. Zachary will always have the kids now and these transfer solidify their arrival. Take the two Madison prep players this year who are power 5 players. Zachary has one in Sean Burrell and two sopre next year in Jeremiah Grimes and Connor Wisham that will be Power 5 players with ease themselves. Too many players is their problem. Zachary isn't in need of ballplayers and won't as long as that staff and community stays put. Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next.........
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Post by swlaprepfan on Jul 26, 2019 20:30:38 GMT -6
Then why aren't the transfers going there? Plus the population numbers blow Monroe and West Monroe completely out of the water. Scarce numbers here and a remarkable amount more down there in comparison. Zachary will always have the kids now and these transfer solidify their arrival. Take the two Madison prep players this year who are power 5 players. Zachary has one in Sean Burrell and two sopre next year in Jeremiah Grimes and Connor Wisham that will be Power 5 players with ease themselves. Too many players is their problem. Zachary isn't in need of ballplayers and won't as long as that staff and community stays put. Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next......... How soon do you think that will happen?
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Post by indy on Jul 26, 2019 20:38:59 GMT -6
Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next......... How soon do you think that will happen? The rumbling has started. If Zachary wins a few in a row they are gone. Once it’s determined that a majority of schools can’t win a trophy it will happen. Great coaching, tradition, community support, and hard working kids don’t matter anymore.
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Post by retired on Jul 26, 2019 20:39:26 GMT -6
Then why aren't the transfers going there? Plus the population numbers blow Monroe and West Monroe completely out of the water. Scarce numbers here and a remarkable amount more down there in comparison. Zachary will always have the kids now and these transfer solidify their arrival. Take the two Madison prep players this year who are power 5 players. Zachary has one in Sean Burrell and two sopre next year in Jeremiah Grimes and Connor Wisham that will be Power 5 players with ease themselves. Too many players is their problem. Zachary isn't in need of ballplayers and won't as long as that staff and community stays put. Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next......... Let me ask you, haven't you been screaming that they are indeed "select"?
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Post by bigrob on Jul 26, 2019 20:48:09 GMT -6
Then why aren't the transfers going there? Plus the population numbers blow Monroe and West Monroe completely out of the water. Scarce numbers here and a remarkable amount more down there in comparison. Zachary will always have the kids now and these transfer solidify their arrival. Take the two Madison prep players this year who are power 5 players. Zachary has one in Sean Burrell and two sopre next year in Jeremiah Grimes and Connor Wisham that will be Power 5 players with ease themselves. Too many players is their problem. Zachary isn't in need of ballplayers and won't as long as that staff and community stays put. Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next......... Eh. I see your Zachary point maybe (I can just as easily see them buddying up with the powers that be but for this post's sake I'll go with your line of thinking) but I seriously think that after a few small presently public schools (1A-3A, 3A basically only being Madison Prep for non football reasons and maybe LCCP) are the sacrificial lambs, Karr and Easton would go first and then I'd assume a few more would likely go before AHS. Maybe even, hypothetically speaking, AHS wouldn't even be the first school from their district to go? (and all the baseball people nod)
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Post by indy on Jul 26, 2019 20:54:04 GMT -6
Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next......... Let me ask you, haven't you been screaming that they are indeed "select"? How do you scream by typing on a forum? The majority of public schools are as “select” as “selects” by definition of the original definition the self serving principals set forth.the only difference is tuition and in many cases a religious affiliation.
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Post by swlaprepfan on Jul 26, 2019 21:06:00 GMT -6
How soon do you think that will happen? The rumbling has started. If Zachary wins a few in a row they are gone. Once it’s determined that a majority of schools can’t win a trophy it will happen. Great coaching, tradition, community support, and hard working kids don’t matter anymore. Does this only apply to 5A and Zachary and Acadiana?
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Post by retired on Jul 26, 2019 21:06:54 GMT -6
Let me ask you, haven't you been screaming that they are indeed "select"? How do you scream by typing on a forum? The majority of public schools are as “select” as “selects” by definition of the original definition the self serving principals set forth.the only difference is tuition and in many cases a religious affiliation. There is your favorite phrase again. I really don't think you understand what it means, especially with all of your silence (or dodging) when presented with examples of private schools. Also, given your propensity to just post incorrect information, why would anyone accept your "majority of public schools" statement. Why can't you just add intelligent, fact based posts to a discussion? Are you incapable of making a post without using hyperbole and inflammatory statements?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 21:15:37 GMT -6
Then why aren't the transfers going there? Plus the population numbers blow Monroe and West Monroe completely out of the water. Scarce numbers here and a remarkable amount more down there in comparison. Zachary will always have the kids now and these transfer solidify their arrival. Take the two Madison prep players this year who are power 5 players. Zachary has one in Sean Burrell and two sopre next year in Jeremiah Grimes and Connor Wisham that will be Power 5 players with ease themselves. Too many players is their problem. Zachary isn't in need of ballplayers and won't as long as that staff and community stays put. Powers to be will soon attempt to move Zachary to select. They will throw a few sacrificial lambs with them to avoid law suits. Then Acadiana will be next......... I don't think Zachary falls into the select category as they don't allow tuition to attend. But, if they continue to grab big time talent each year I could see some rumblings for sure. The Holstein kid is as big a transfer in the last 20 years. Kid is a 5 star talent. The kid from slaughter academy is a 3 star player. But I see your point. They are really a select school in principal as the young studs will flow there for championships. I don't see how that isn't the same as select. I've read the by laws. I've read them over and over. I never once saw anything that made me think they had an advantage over public. I looked and I looked again. Nothing.
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Post by indy on Jul 26, 2019 21:17:11 GMT -6
The rumbling has started. If Zachary wins a few in a row they are gone. Once it’s determined that a majority of schools can’t win a trophy it will happen. Great coaching, tradition, community support, and hard working kids don’t matter anymore. Does this only apply to 5A and Zachary and Acadiana? No, in the LHSAA winning is not natural. Hard working coaches and kids are moved out to make way so the mediocre have a chance. It will happen in all the classes.
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Post by indy on Jul 26, 2019 21:26:53 GMT -6
How do you scream by typing on a forum? The majority of public schools are as “select” as “selects” by definition of the original definition the self serving principals set forth.the only difference is tuition and in many cases a religious affiliation. There is your favorite phrase again. I really don't think you understand what it means, especially with all of your silence (or dodging) when presented with examples of private schools. Also, given your propensity to just post incorrect information, why would anyone accept your "majority of public schools" statement. Why can't you just add intelligent, fact based posts to a discussion? Are you incapable of making a post without using hyperbole and inflammatory statements? You obviously have severe , don’t lecture me on intelligence or facts.
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Post by retired on Jul 26, 2019 21:35:26 GMT -6
There is your favorite phrase again. I really don't think you understand what it means, especially with all of your silence (or dodging) when presented with examples of private schools. Also, given your propensity to just post incorrect information, why would anyone accept your "majority of public schools" statement. Why can't you just add intelligent, fact based posts to a discussion? Are you incapable of making a post without using hyperbole and inflammatory statements? You obviously have severe , don’t lecture me on intelligence or facts. Yep. That's about what has become to be expected by you. You had a decent run where you were making good contributions. When you present valid facts (such as reminding everyone that many of the top "non select" schools aren't as "non select" as they seem) it makes for interesting and enlightening discussion. When you just post gibberish, it diminishes everything valid that you type, and makes the discussion of the board worse. I swear you resemble the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania. Make a good speech, then blow all the good will in an infantile twitter tirade. The difference is, he does it for a purpose. You do it....why? And here is the worst part. Based on your previous posts, you are going to take that comment as some type of pro democratic one,because you seemingly can't discern between issues. You are completely binary in your reasoning.
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Post by swlaprepfan on Jul 26, 2019 21:43:52 GMT -6
Does this only apply to 5A and Zachary and Acadiana? No, in the LHSAA winning is not natural. Hard working coaches and kids are moved out to make way so the mediocre have a chance. It will happen in all the classes. Ok. So why haven’t the schools that have won multiple championships since the split been kicked out of the LHSAA?
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Post by indy on Jul 27, 2019 6:07:08 GMT -6
No, in the LHSAA winning is not natural. Hard working coaches and kids are moved out to make way so the mediocre have a chance. It will happen in all the classes. Ok. So why haven’t the schools that have won multiple championships since the split been kicked out of the LHSAA? To my knowledge no school as ever been kicked out the LHSAA. They never had enough balls to do that. Because two schools won to much They put all the Catholic and private schools in select, along with a few sacrificial lambs to avoid a law suit. IMO they will soon find a way to move Zachary and probably Karr to select. It’s in the self serving s nature to remove schools to better their chances of getting a trophy*
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Post by swlaprepfan on Jul 27, 2019 6:48:44 GMT -6
Ok. So why haven’t the schools that have won multiple championships since the split been kicked out of the LHSAA? To my knowledge no school as ever been kicked out the LHSAA. They never had enough balls to do that. Because two schools won to much They put all the Catholic and private schools in select, along with a few sacrificial lambs to avoid a law suit. IMO they will soon find a way to move Zachary and probably Karr to select. It’s in the self serving s nature to remove schools to better their chances of getting a trophy* Sorry, when I said LHSAA, I actually mean non-select. Has anyone been kicked out of the non-select side or forced to become select for winning too much since the split has been instituted? I’m trying to determine whether or not this threat is real or just rumor and conjecture based fear mongering.
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