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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 20, 2019 10:28:49 GMT -6
if you and your child have been turned away from attending a private school. We have plenty of public school supporters (we actually all are when it comes to our taxes) on this board so please speak up. Also, if you have a true and accurate story of someone you know that was a great student but didn't play sports and they were turned away at a private school, please share with us.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Nov 20, 2019 10:44:20 GMT -6
if you and your child have been turned away from attending a private school. We have plenty of public school supporters (we actually all are when it comes to our taxes) on this board so please speak up. Also, if you have a true and accurate story of someone you know that was a great student but didn't play sports and they were turned away at a private school, please share with us. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I have stories of great athletes being turned away. But that doesn’t fit the narrative, so never mind.
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 20, 2019 11:02:10 GMT -6
if you and your child have been turned away from attending a private school. We have plenty of public school supporters (we actually all are when it comes to our taxes) on this board so please speak up. Also, if you have a true and accurate story of someone you know that was a great student but didn't play sports and they were turned away at a private school, please share with us. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I have stories of great athletes being turned away. But that doesn’t fit the narrative, so never mind. Hahaha. Or what about the great athlete that was kicked out? I have a feeling this thread won't go anywhere because no one has a first hand account of what private schools are accused of, turning kids away to stay in a certain class.
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Post by wshs on Nov 20, 2019 12:01:15 GMT -6
I have no examples. Quite frankly I live in a very rural area and the closest private shcool is 35 miles away in a different parish. Like i said in the other post, I dont feel private schools deny enrollment to stay in certain classes. But I do feel enrollment is denyed in order to do what is best for the school. Likewise, in public shcools enrollment is granted regardless if its a detriment to the school.
If I lived in South Louisiana I would most defintely fork over the 5-10 k a year for my child to attend one of the privates. For that money I would hope the school i was paying was not letting every problem child that registered attend the school.
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Post by Rick James on Nov 20, 2019 12:35:41 GMT -6
if you and your child have been turned away from attending a private school. We have plenty of public school supporters (we actually all are when it comes to our taxes) on this board so please speak up. Also, if you have a true and accurate story of someone you know that was a great student but didn't play sports and they were turned away at a private school, please share with us. pinion
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Post by Deuce on Nov 20, 2019 12:42:17 GMT -6
if you and your child have been turned away from attending a private school. We have plenty of public school supporters (we actually all are when it comes to our taxes) on this board so please speak up. Also, if you have a true and accurate story of someone you know that was a great student but didn't play sports and they were turned away at a private school, please share with us. On the opposite end of the spectrum, I have stories of great athletes being turned away. But that doesn’t fit the narrative, so never mind. I know of one instance in particular a few years ago where a high profile athlete was turned away by an area private school. I know of another high profile athlete at that same private school that was asked to leave and he ended up playing and graduating at a local public school, he ended up playing baseball in the SEC. I have never heard of anyone being turned away that was able to pass their entrance exam over the last 20 years. I will not mention names because it is not fair to the students.
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 20, 2019 13:01:08 GMT -6
I have no examples. Quite frankly I live in a very rural area and the closest private shcool is 35 miles away in a different parish. Like i said in the other post, I dont feel private schools deny enrollment to stay in certain classes. But I do feel enrollment is denyed in order to do what is best for the school. Likewise, in public shcools enrollment is granted regardless if its a detriment to the school. If I lived in South Louisiana I would most defintely fork over the 5-10 k a year for my child to attend one of the privates. For that money I would hope the school i was paying was not letting every problem child that registered attend the school. I understand. It's been an overall theme on this board for years that private schools control their student population to control their classification. If you feel this is directed towards you, my apologies.
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 20, 2019 13:02:07 GMT -6
if you and your child have been turned away from attending a private school. We have plenty of public school supporters (we actually all are when it comes to our taxes) on this board so please speak up. Also, if you have a true and accurate story of someone you know that was a great student but didn't play sports and they were turned away at a private school, please share with us. pinion Are you asking Pinion to opine on this subject?
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Post by Sixpack on Nov 20, 2019 13:42:14 GMT -6
pinion's opinion?
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Nov 20, 2019 13:56:30 GMT -6
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 20, 2019 14:34:38 GMT -6
/bump Not gonna let this thread go dormant. So many accusations throughout the years and I want to hear a first hand story about a good student being denied attendance at a private school.
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 20, 2019 14:39:29 GMT -6
I would especially like to hear from a West Monroe parent that wanted to send their kid to OCS, St. Fred's, or Claiborne Christian but were denied enrollment because they were non-athletic. The West Monroe that invented 8+
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Post by wshs on Nov 20, 2019 15:25:18 GMT -6
/bump Not gonna let this thread go dormant. So many accusations throughout the years and I want to hear a first hand story about a good student being denied attendance at a private school. I'm not sure if anyone will ever cite an example for you but I would like to pose a question of my own.
Do you or anyone else on here have a first hand story of bad student being denied attendance to a private school?
Sadly, the public schools are filled with bad students. It's one of the reasons a lot of people send their kids to private schools.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Nov 20, 2019 15:53:30 GMT -6
I was with my kids in a store this past spring semester, both of them with their school uniforms on, and a lady stopped me and asked me if they went there. (Pretty dumb question obviously) She told me that she had tried to get her kid in school, and was denied admission. She went on to tell me that this kid was a sopre at (local public high school) and an all district athlete. I didn't ask what the reason was for being denied admission, figured if she wanted to tell me, she would have. I assume it was either grades or prior disciplinary issues.
I have also heard from other parents that have had similar encounters with people around town.
That said, our high school is at pretty much full capacity now, so we can probably only take as many as do not return.
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Post by pinion on Nov 20, 2019 18:17:13 GMT -6
I have a niece that was more or less turned away from a private school. She is special needs and they were not equipped to work with her circumstances. They did not come right out and say "we won't take her" but they made it clear that they were not equipped to properly educate her. But that wasn't me directly, so I really cannot swear on a bible that what I was told was said. But it was my brother and wife, so I have a pretty good idea that what I was told was what was said.
Evangel isn't set up to take on special needs children. My niece has Down Syndrome. She's 20 now. But when she was school age, my brother/sisNlaw did look into putting her into ECA due to negative experiences with Caddo Schools. ECA couldn't take her and she ended up back in a Caddo school. 2 months into it, she was stuttering and had reverted back to chewing/sucking on her tongue all the time. They ended up moving to East Texas and she finished school there. No longer stutters or chews on her tongue.
So yes, I did have a family member turned away. But I do feel like it was the right move as they just were not in a place to take on children with specials needs like my niece.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Nov 20, 2019 18:28:40 GMT -6
I have a niece that was more or less turned away from a private school. She is special needs and they were not equipped to work with her circumstances. They did not come right out and say "we won't take her" but they made it clear that they were not equipped to properly educate her. But that wasn't me directly, so I really cannot swear on a bible that what I was told was said. But it was my brother and wife, so I have a pretty good idea that what I was told was what was said. Evangel isn't set up to take on special needs children. My niece has Down Syndrome. She's 20 now. But when she was school age, my brother/sisNlaw did look into putting her into ECA due to negative experiences with Caddo Schools. ECA couldn't take her and she ended up back in a Caddo school. 2 months into it, she was stuttering and had reverted back to chewing/sucking on her tongue all the time. They ended up moving to East Texas and she finished school there. No longer stutters or chews on her tongue. So yes, I did have a family member turned away. But I do feel like it was the right move as they just were not in a place to take on children with specials needs like my niece. Glad she got in a better place. In Lafayette Parish, the public schools are equipped with programs for special needs kids. Most, if not all, privates are not. I know people that send special needs kids to public and their siblings to private because of that.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 21, 2019 6:22:20 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship?
I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it.
I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house.
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Post by CrusadingLions on Nov 21, 2019 6:35:20 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I taught a kid who”s dad lost his job at one of the plants in his junior year. Family hit a hard time and kid, who was a senior, was given a scholarship so he could finish is senior year and graduate. Had that not happened he would have had to transfer (he was actually set to start at the public school in the second semester). Was a decent athlete and good student. Thought it was a good gesture. Taught another who had a single mom working two jobs and got a scholarship. Stayed at another students house because the mom was working 16+ hours a week. She didn’t play sports though. Really good student though with good grades. Don’t know of any kids that got scholarships to play sports though. All were needs based and good students. I don’t agree with you about not letting kids in who can’t afford it. To me if you can help a student it is never a bad thing
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 21, 2019 6:41:38 GMT -6
I have a niece that was more or less turned away from a private school. She is special needs and they were not equipped to work with her circumstances. They did not come right out and say "we won't take her" but they made it clear that they were not equipped to properly educate her. But that wasn't me directly, so I really cannot swear on a bible that what I was told was said. But it was my brother and wife, so I have a pretty good idea that what I was told was what was said. Evangel isn't set up to take on special needs children. My niece has Down Syndrome. She's 20 now. But when she was school age, my brother/sisNlaw did look into putting her into ECA due to negative experiences with Caddo Schools. ECA couldn't take her and she ended up back in a Caddo school. 2 months into it, she was stuttering and had reverted back to chewing/sucking on her tongue all the time. They ended up moving to East Texas and she finished school there. No longer stutters or chews on her tongue. So yes, I did have a family member turned away. But I do feel like it was the right move as they just were not in a place to take on children with specials needs like my niece. Thank you for responding. I’m very glad your niece is doing great. Most private schools aren’t equipped for special needs children. It is because they are self funded and don’t get a dime from the state so it isn’t practical to hire a teacher for $30,000 a year to teach that. Believe me, I wish that were different.
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 21, 2019 6:44:17 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house. How does it affect you if a kid gets a scholarship to attend a private school? Isn’t that less taxes for you?
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 21, 2019 7:00:49 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house. That last sentence about a football player transferring in after playing against y’all and living in a boosters house sounds illegal. You should turn them in. Not too many people condone that behavior. Did your kids attend public or private?
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Post by wildcat on Nov 21, 2019 7:36:26 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house. That last sentence about a football player transferring in after playing against y’all and living in a boosters house sounds illegal. You should turn them in. Not too many people condone that behavior. Did your kids attend public or private? Someone did turn them in and a quick visit is all the LHSAA did. Kid kept playing. My kids are currently public (they are young), I grew up in public schools my wife was private. My kids have done a lab type school that is public funded but we paid tuition to attend. So I’m not sure how you wanna classify that.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 21, 2019 7:40:34 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house. How does it affect you if a kid gets a scholarship to attend a private school? Isn’t that less taxes for you? I have no idea if it’s less taxes. Reason I don’t think it’s fair is because if every family has to pay the tuition then it would put a serious stranglehold on the kids that are being looked at when they are younger. If a family can afford to send their child to a private school and feel that is best for their family, have at it. But for a kid who is a good athlete but has free or reduced lunch at the public school to all of a sudden be able to afford private tuition raises a major red flag. It’s opens the flood gates for any and all kids to attend. This is a major advantage in my opinion.
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Post by BSD on Nov 21, 2019 7:40:41 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house. Ok I'm not talk about athletics! That being said if a kid attends a poor rated school and can't afford to attend a near by private school, you don't think the school should be able to offer so sort of tuition assistance to that family so that they may be able to get their child a better education? I'm not saying all privates are better than public schools (educationally), but if you can help better a childs education why would that be a bad thing. So in your opinion a child should never be able to receive aid to attend a private school to better their situation? Just curious.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 21, 2019 7:44:45 GMT -6
Can we also raise our hands if we know of athletes who’s have gotten in private schools who’s families could not afford it and were placed on scholarship? I do not think schools should be allowed to do scholarships and bring in kids who can’t afford it. I know of a private school who had a D1 baseball player on scholarship and 3 families split his tuition (I was asked to help pay it). Another Football player “transferred” in after scoring 4 TDS and rushing for 200+ plus yards against this team and magically “lived” in a boosters rental house. Ok I'm not talk about athletics! That being said if a kid attends a poor rated school and can't afford to attend a near by private school, you don't think the school should be able to offer so sort of tuition assistance to that family so that they may be able to get their child a better education? I'm not saying all privates are better than public schools (educationally), but if you can help better a childs education why would that be a bad thing. So in your opinion a child should never be able to receive aid to attend a private school to better their situation? Just curious. If the kid doesn’t play sports I don’t care. They can go scholarship the best piano player in the nation for al I care. Just don’t allow the child to play sports. This is a huge advantage. Not only can they get great athletes they can pay for them to attend. So now the argument of “well they must pay 10k to attend” goes right out the door. That is the main argument people have used to defend privates is the tuition factor. I just figured since this was sports line and it’s based on sports we were talking about athletics.
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 21, 2019 8:00:29 GMT -6
Ok I'm not talk about athletics! That being said if a kid attends a poor rated school and can't afford to attend a near by private school, you don't think the school should be able to offer so sort of tuition assistance to that family so that they may be able to get their child a better education? I'm not saying all privates are better than public schools (educationally), but if you can help better a childs education why would that be a bad thing. So in your opinion a child should never be able to receive aid to attend a private school to better their situation? Just curious. If the kid doesn’t play sports I don’t care. They can go scholarship the best piano player in the nation for al I care. Just don’t allow the child to play sports. This is a huge advantage. Not only can they get great athletes they can pay for them to attend. So now the argument of “well they must pay 10k to attend” goes right out the door. That is the main argument people have used to defend privates is the tuition factor. I just figured since this was sports line and it’s based on sports we were talking about athletics. Are you a communist?
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Post by BringingTruth on Nov 21, 2019 8:16:47 GMT -6
That last sentence about a football player transferring in after playing against y’all and living in a boosters house sounds illegal. You should turn them in. Not too many people condone that behavior. Did your kids attend public or private? Someone did turn them in and a quick visit is all the LHSAA did. Kid kept playing. My kids are currently public (they are young), I grew up in public schools my wife was private. My kids have done a lab type school that is public funded but we paid tuition to attend. So I’m not sure how you wanna classify that. Sort of like U Lab?
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Post by BSD on Nov 21, 2019 8:21:42 GMT -6
Ok I'm not talk about athletics! That being said if a kid attends a poor rated school and can't afford to attend a near by private school, you don't think the school should be able to offer so sort of tuition assistance to that family so that they may be able to get their child a better education? I'm not saying all privates are better than public schools (educationally), but if you can help better a childs education why would that be a bad thing. So in your opinion a child should never be able to receive aid to attend a private school to better their situation? Just curious. If the kid doesn’t play sports I don’t care. They can go scholarship the best piano player in the nation for al I care. Just don’t allow the child to play sports. This is a huge advantage. Not only can they get great athletes they can pay for them to attend. So now the argument of “well they must pay 10k to attend” goes right out the door. That is the main argument people have used to defend privates is the tuition factor. I just figured since this was sports line and it’s based on sports we were talking about athletics. So my second question...... Why should athletes be omitted in finding better education? We are already S P L I T, we aren't gonna hinder you from winning a championship. So why punish the child? If it is investigated and found that RECRUITING did take place punish the school.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 21, 2019 8:22:36 GMT -6
Someone did turn them in and a quick visit is all the LHSAA did. Kid kept playing. My kids are currently public (they are young), I grew up in public schools my wife was private. My kids have done a lab type school that is public funded but we paid tuition to attend. So I’m not sure how you wanna classify that. Sort of like U Lab? I don’t know how U lab is set up. Are they also under the school board system and receive public tax money but parents must Pay for their child to attend?
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Post by wildcat on Nov 21, 2019 8:23:37 GMT -6
If the kid doesn’t play sports I don’t care. They can go scholarship the best piano player in the nation for al I care. Just don’t allow the child to play sports. This is a huge advantage. Not only can they get great athletes they can pay for them to attend. So now the argument of “well they must pay 10k to attend” goes right out the door. That is the main argument people have used to defend privates is the tuition factor. I just figured since this was sports line and it’s based on sports we were talking about athletics. So my second question...... Why should athletes be omitted in finding better education? We are already S P L I T, we aren't gonna hinder you from winning a championship. So why punish the child? If it is investigated and found that RECRUITING did take place punish the school. Because the LHSAA has proven they don’t like to punish schools. If they would none of this would be an issue. There are to many loopholes in the system.
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