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Post by indy on May 5, 2016 17:39:54 GMT -6
I vote for iknownothing as the new commissioner and vote bob to go to work in the administration. I will only accept it if it is in the new association. LOL... . I want a fresh startThat idea is becoming increasingly worthwhile!! If we were self self serving and narrow minded like our counter parts we would embrace the split! I'm guessing bob has no reasonable answer to you perspective on STM. Other than split.....
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Post by iknownuthing on May 5, 2016 17:53:06 GMT -6
Incorrect. Butthurt statement. SPLITSPLITSPLITSPLIT How is it incorrect? Your statement: " No one is throwing away anything. Here is your problem. Even though your school has an inherent advantage like all select schools do, you guys do a poor job of using the advantage." Is there another interpretation of that other than 'go get yourself better players' ?? And this: " principal who keeps your ears pinned and doesnt allow the blatent breaking of the spirit of fair play that others do. My suggestion, get a more athletic friendly principal," pretty much clinches it. Can't mean anything else other than that a school administered as you describe is remiss in its duty as a school. Why not commend that school? And go after the "others" you mention. I will give Big Bob his due, we do have an inherent advantage, but it is not what bob thinks it is. At STM there is approximately 1085 students. 98% are involved in an extracurricular activity. And not just sports. The kids and the parents are involved and active in support of the school. Most public schools have only 20 to 30% of their student body involved in an extra curricular activity and most parents have NO vested interest in the success of the school. Most students come sit, eat and go home. AT STM the population is about 65% female so we have roughly 380 boys. Of those boys,approximately 211 are on the football team. STM averages 136 varsity and JV and 75 freshmen participating every year. That's half of your male population in the school wanting to be a part of something bigger than themselves, willing to practice and sacrifice with little chance of being on the field on Friday night. At Northside for example they have about 850 students and the make up is around 60% male. Of the approximately 510 boys, only 40 to 50 go out for football. That is a fundamental difference in attitude, mentality and tradition. It's microcosmic of why private schools have an advantage. I am willing to bet, if you go to Neville or W. Monroe you have the same mentality as STM with the parents and the participation rates.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 7:47:09 GMT -6
How is it incorrect? Your statement: " No one is throwing away anything. Here is your problem. Even though your school has an inherent advantage like all select schools do, you guys do a poor job of using the advantage." Is there another interpretation of that other than 'go get yourself better players' ?? And this: " principal who keeps your ears pinned and doesnt allow the blatent breaking of the spirit of fair play that others do. My suggestion, get a more athletic friendly principal," pretty much clinches it. Can't mean anything else other than that a school administered as you describe is remiss in its duty as a school. Why not commend that school? And go after the "others" you mention. I will give Big Bob his due, we do have an inherent advantage, but it is not what bob thinks it is. At STM there is approximately 1085 students. 98% are involved in an extracurricular activity. And not just sports. The kids and the parents are involved and active in support of the school. Most public schools have only 20 to 30% of their student body involved in an extra curricular activity and most parents have NO vested interest in the success of the school. Most students come sit, eat and go home. AT STM the population is about 65% female so we have roughly 380 boys. Of those boys,approximately 211 are on the football team. STM averages 136 varsity and JV and 75 freshmen participating every year. That's half of your male population in the school wanting to be a part of something bigger than themselves, willing to practice and sacrifice with little chance of being on the field on Friday night. At Northside for example they have about 850 students and the make up is around 60% male. Of the approximately 510 boys, only 40 to 50 go out for football. That is a fundamental difference in attitude, mentality and tradition. It's microcosmic of why private schools have an advantage. I am willing to bet, if you go to Neville or W. Monroe you have the same mentality as STM with the parents and the participation rates. When you can hand pick your enrollment, you should have all those things. Thanks for pointing out the advantage. SPLIT NOW
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 7:58:23 GMT -6
I will give Big Bob his due, we do have an inherent advantage, but it is not what bob thinks it is. At STM there is approximately 1085 students. 98% are involved in an extracurricular activity. And not just sports. The kids and the parents are involved and active in support of the school. Most public schools have only 20 to 30% of their student body involved in an extra curricular activity and most parents have NO vested interest in the success of the school. Most students come sit, eat and go home. AT STM the population is about 65% female so we have roughly 380 boys. Of those boys,approximately 211 are on the football team. STM averages 136 varsity and JV and 75 freshmen participating every year. That's half of your male population in the school wanting to be a part of something bigger than themselves, willing to practice and sacrifice with little chance of being on the field on Friday night. At Northside for example they have about 850 students and the make up is around 60% male. Of the approximately 510 boys, only 40 to 50 go out for football. That is a fundamental difference in attitude, mentality and tradition. It's microcosmic of why private schools have an advantage. I am willing to bet, if you go to Neville or W. Monroe you have the same mentality as STM with the parents and the participation rates. When you can hand pick your enrollment, you should have all those things. Thanks for pointing out the advantage. SPLIT NOW Hand picked? You are delusional. You are or were an obvious bad coach that can't compete so you want to cull out schools. What a pitiful attitude. No wonder you got canned.
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Post by gentsandpios on May 6, 2016 7:58:50 GMT -6
Haynesville has 14 State titles and I don't see any losing seasons in last 15 years or so. How is that up and down? 14 state titles in how many years? Great coaching, longevity in system, great area for football. Sometimes, rarely, that happens. Next question, who accused them of cheating? How many kids do they have NOT from their parish? 14 titles go back to 1920 something but 12 were won after 1970. That doesn't count numerous runner ups so pretty great run in last 45 years by anyone's measure. Definitely more than 95% of select schools. I can't answer questions of if they used out of parish kids or if they were ever accused of cheating but never heard of any such accusations just like I never heard of accusations about 95% of select schools.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 8:53:16 GMT -6
When you can hand pick your enrollment, you should have all those things. Thanks for pointing out the advantage. SPLIT NOW Hand picked? You are delusional. You are or were an obvious bad coach that can't compete so you want to cull out schools. What a pitiful attitude. No wonder you got canned. Simple question. 1) Are their entrance requirements at Select Schools? 2) If a child doesnt meet those requirements, can they be excluded from enrollment? 3) Is there a platform or plan for those who cant meet those requirements that MAY allow them entry anyway, upon approval from a committee or board?
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 9:00:26 GMT -6
Hand picked? You are delusional. You are or were an obvious bad coach that can't compete so you want to cull out schools. What a pitiful attitude. No wonder you got canned. Simple question. 1) Are their entrance requirements at Select Schools? 2) If a child doesnt meet those requirements, can they be excluded from enrollment? 3) Is there a platform or plan for those who cant meet those requirements that MAY allow them entry anyway, upon approval from a committee or board? At ND we take anyone that can pay. At that point it's up to the student to make the required grades and the parents to pay the bill. So you are down to this? Geez! This is such a pathetic reason. Grow a pair and compete.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 9:05:31 GMT -6
Simple question. 1) Are their entrance requirements at Select Schools? 2) If a child doesnt meet those requirements, can they be excluded from enrollment? 3) Is there a platform or plan for those who cant meet those requirements that MAY allow them entry anyway, upon approval from a committee or board? At ND we take anyone that can pay. At that point it's up to the student to make the required grades and the parents to pay the bill. So you are down to this? Geez! This is such a pathetic reason. Grow a pair and compete. So, if they "dont make the required grades" they are removed? What if they slap the principal?
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 9:14:06 GMT -6
At ND we take anyone that can pay. At that point it's up to the student to make the required grades and the parents to pay the bill. So you are down to this? Geez! This is such a pathetic reason. Grow a pair and compete. So, if they "dont make the required grades" they are removed? What if they slap the principal? No. We have many that stay. They will not receive a ND diploma, some get a state GED, and some get a nice participation certificate on graduation day. Obviously they don't play sports. If they can't pay they move on, on their own. You are a one hit BLUNDER!! Man up and compete
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Post by iknownuthing on May 6, 2016 9:21:00 GMT -6
Hand picked? You are delusional. You are or were an obvious bad coach that can't compete so you want to cull out schools. What a pitiful attitude. No wonder you got canned. Simple question. 1) Are their entrance requirements at Select Schools? 2) If a child doesnt meet those requirements, can they be excluded from enrollment? 3) Is there a platform or plan for those who cant meet those requirements that MAY allow them entry anyway, upon approval from a committee or board? 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes The enrollment and acceptance policy is spelled out in a publicly displayed handbook. Every applicant gets one. Every private school in this state that is part of the LHSAA and recognized by BESE as an educational institution has one. And every school has to supply BESE and the LHSAA with its entrance requirements. In those handbooks I challenge you to go through and find one that has an athletic requirement to attend. If there was they could not be a member of the LHSAA. If a student cannot pay, there is a plan to help them afford tuition provided they meet the financial requirements. If there is a discipline problem, they can be denied or recommended to attend another school. That is done on a case by case basis. I know of a discipline problem highly athletic and now college football player at a MAJOR SEC school, that was denied enrollment and his athletic ability was never even questioned. His parents appealed to the board and they agreed with the denial. 1. Are their entrance requirements at public (non-select) schools? The answer is YES!! You have to have successfully completed your previous year to go to high school. Yes, every public school selects its students as determined by the school board. 2. If a child does not meet those requirements, can they be excluded from enrollment at a public school? YES, my kids were excluded from the public school system because the local school board did not want to establish the required bus service for them. Thus I was required to approach the next parish school board and was denied public school access. This is a personal experience you cannot deny. Rightfully so, I did not meet the requirements to attend public school in one parish. A child can be denied enrollment into a public school or sent to a specific public alternative school for disciplinary actions. So YES> YES< YES> 3. Is there a plaftorm or plan for those who can't meet those requirements that May allow them entry any, upon approval from a committee or board? Yes just like in the private sector, you always have the right to appeal.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 6, 2016 9:26:11 GMT -6
So, if they "dont make the required grades" they are removed? What if they slap the principal? No. We have many that stay. They will not receive a ND diploma, some get a state GED, and some get a nice participation certificate on graduation day. Obviously they don't play sports. If they can't pay they move on, on their own. You are a one hit BLUNDER!! Man up and compete Any student public or private that " slaps" the principal should be incarcerated. If you strike our principal, you won't be in school because you WILL be in jail or the JDC. If a public school student is not prosecuted for striking the principal then the problem is not an advantage to the private school but a FAILURE of the local public school. Just by asking that question, it shows that the socialist agenda in the public school system has failed the youth of Louisiana.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 9:40:45 GMT -6
No. We have many that stay. They will not receive a ND diploma, some get a state GED, and some get a nice participation certificate on graduation day. Obviously they don't play sports. If they can't pay they move on, on their own. You are a one hit BLUNDER!! Man up and compete Any student public or private that " slaps" the principal should be incarcerated. If you strike our principal, you won't be in school because you WILL be in jail or the JDC. If a public school student is not prosecuted for striking the principal then the problem is not an advantage to the private school but a FAILURE of the local public school. Just by asking that question, it shows that the socialist agenda in the public school system has failed the youth of Louisiana. Not disagreeing with you, however, in both scenarios the likelihood of a exclusion from public schools is minimal. Socialism.....maybe, but as a coach, student, or player, thats not our call. All we can do is deal with the laws as they stand now. As for "man up and compete", well, I'm glad you feel that way. Now "man up and compete" vs the other schools in your playoff bracket that gain enrollment (and exclude it) like you do. Stop whining like a little..............well, you know..............lol
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 9:58:34 GMT -6
Any student public or private that " slaps" the principal should be incarcerated. If you strike our principal, you won't be in school because you WILL be in jail or the JDC. If a public school student is not prosecuted for striking the principal then the problem is not an advantage to the private school but a FAILURE of the local public school. Just by asking that question, it shows that the socialist agenda in the public school system has failed the youth of Louisiana. Not disagreeing with you, however, in both scenarios the likelihood of a exclusion from public schools is minimal. Socialism.....maybe, but as a coach, student, or player, thats not our call. All we can do is deal with the laws as they stand now. As for "man up and compete", well, I'm glad you feel that way. Now "man up and compete" vs the other schools in your playoff bracket that gain enrollment (and exclude it) like you do. Stop whining like a little..............well, you know..............lol Down to minimal? You are a joke. You are a MINAMAL hit Blunder! Geez, I get it now, you can't compete!!
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 10:10:26 GMT -6
Not disagreeing with you, however, in both scenarios the likelihood of a exclusion from public schools is minimal. Socialism.....maybe, but as a coach, student, or player, thats not our call. All we can do is deal with the laws as they stand now. As for "man up and compete", well, I'm glad you feel that way. Now "man up and compete" vs the other schools in your playoff bracket that gain enrollment (and exclude it) like you do. Stop whining like a little..............well, you know..............lol Down to minimal? You are a joke. You are a MINAMAL hit Blunder! Geez, I get it now, you can't compete!! Lol, thanks, but "I" compete just fine. Record setting actually, but I digress. Salve, ointment, and play like schools. I know it sucks, yall cant beat them. But hey...............whatever, na mi prolem
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 10:22:02 GMT -6
Down to minimal? You are a joke. You are a MINAMAL hit Blunder! Geez, I get it now, you can't compete!! Lol, thanks, but "I" compete just fine. Record setting actually, but I digress. Salve, ointment, and play like schools. I know it sucks, yall cant beat them. But hey...............whatever, na mi prolem Record setting? 0-and what? You are a joke! And those like schools? The ones that can deny enrollment on A MINAMAL basis. Geez
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 10:48:31 GMT -6
Lol, thanks, but "I" compete just fine. Record setting actually, but I digress. Salve, ointment, and play like schools. I know it sucks, yall cant beat them. But hey...............whatever, na mi prolem Record setting? 0-and what? You are a joke! And those like schools? The ones that can deny enrollment on A MINAMAL basis. Geez Well, you will never know....which actually fits into your argument well...............not knowing. Preparation H may work, not sure. Let me know.
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 10:59:36 GMT -6
Record setting? 0-and what? You are a joke! And those like schools? The ones that can deny enrollment on A MINAMAL basis. Geez Well, you will never know....which actually fits into your argument well...............not knowing. Preparation H may work, not sure. Let me know. So a legend in your own mind? That's rich! And your fascination with butts and ointment got me worried! Are you the legendary Jerry Sandusky? Legendary, what a joke
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Post by btown on May 6, 2016 11:07:42 GMT -6
Can we argue another point, because I have a few questions?
1. Split stays after June 8th meeting what happens then?
2. Does someone form a new association?
3. Who is behind starting the new association?
4. Is it the Catholic league in New Orleans and if so what happens to the small catholic schools?
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 11:17:11 GMT -6
Can we argue another point, because I have a few questions? 1. Split stays after June 8th meeting what happens then? 2. Does someone form a new association?
3. Who is behind starting the new association?
4. Is it the Catholic league in New Orleans and if so what happens to the small catholic schools?Catholic schools and the Bishops are in conversation about the possibility of a new association, legal action against the LHSAA, and making the current situation work. Other than that the rest is under gag order. My best guess is that no new organization will happen any time soon, it will be a last resort effort. My hope is to stay together even if the playoffs are split, just a fairer deal for the private schools.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 11:30:11 GMT -6
Well, you will never know....which actually fits into your argument well...............not knowing. Preparation H may work, not sure. Let me know. So a legend in your own mind? That's rich! And your fascination with butts and ointment got me worried! Are you the legendary Jerry Sandusky? Legendary, what a joke Well, youre the one wanting to lotion up my students. This has become boring. Think I'll go eat my free or reduced lunch. Have a nice day. Shaloom
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Post by btown on May 6, 2016 11:31:12 GMT -6
Can we argue another point, because I have a few questions? 1. Split stays after June 8th meeting what happens then? 2. Does someone form a new association?
3. Who is behind starting the new association?
4. Is it the Catholic league in New Orleans and if so what happens to the small catholic schools?Catholic schools and the Bishops are in conversation about the possibility of a new association, legal action against the LHSAA, and making the current situation work. Other than that the rest is under gag order. My best guess is that no new organization will happen any time soon, it will be a last resort effort. My hope is to stay together even if the playoffs are split, just a fairer deal for the private schools. I understand that you are frustrated with the split and hold a hope that it will be voted out or legal action will take care of it. I do not think either one will happen. Problem with new associaton is the small catholic school will still be in the same boat of having to swim with sharks. If the split stays at some point and time people will have to stop arguing about it and start trying to improve it.
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 11:34:23 GMT -6
So a legend in your own mind? That's rich! And your fascination with butts and ointment got me worried! Are you the legendary Jerry Sandusky? Legendary, what a joke Well, youre the one wanting to lotion up my students. This has become boring. Think I'll go eat my free or reduced lunch. Have a nice day. Shaloom Ok, but for the record, what make believe field or you a legend in? I assumed football, but maybe I'm wrong. Bozo is a legend too!
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Post by pinion on May 6, 2016 11:47:49 GMT -6
According to the fella from Many that pushed so hard (this last time) for the split, the reason for it is because he believes (with no doubt) that private schools cheat and recruit. So, while you say the issue is how athletes end up at certain schools, your own side of the fence does not agree with you. Outside of that, I like any idea that brings some sort of normalcy back to sports and your idea is worth a look. The "fellow from Many" has never uttered the words "cheat and recruit". What he has says is "its not the same". Guess what, its not. wgno.com/2016/01/29/lhsaa-votes-to-split-all-major-high-school-sports/I'm not going to spend my lunch going over Google to find links from what the chubby guy said. He said. On more than one occasion. I wish I could remember the date they played an audio bit on the radio of him saying it. He's a liar and a whiner. It is the same. You obviously don't care and neither does the ManyLiar. But it is the same. If you can't compete with other teams, it's because YOU're doing it wrong. Not because everyone else is. The split is here because you people can't have it both ways. You want to dominate and win trophies while NOT spending the money on the programs. Go look at the public school programs that win, they all have the same thing in common; they put money and attention on the program and the return is a trophy. You're just mad because private schools don't have to go through all the garbage to put money where they decide they want to put it. The playing field isn't level because you people will not do what it takes. So instead of fixing the actual problem, you point fingers at private schools and cry about how it's not fair and how they cheat. NewsFlash here, sparky: Nobody cheated. I come to this board day in and day out only to see you constantly pushing for the split. We have the split. You keep telling people to move on. That's borderline retarded to tell people to move on and then you turn around and keep pushing for something that is in place. A whole new section had to be added to this forum because you cannot let it go. You got what you wanted, so what else is it that you need? Do you need everyone that thinks the split is beyond stupid to agree with you? I hope not, because it'll never happen. So there's my rant for the day. I realize it's a waste of my time, but fortunately I type really fast.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 12:28:20 GMT -6
The "fellow from Many" has never uttered the words "cheat and recruit". What he has says is "its not the same". Guess what, its not. wgno.com/2016/01/29/lhsaa-votes-to-split-all-major-high-school-sports/I'm not going to spend my lunch going over Google to find links from what the chubby guy said. He said. On more than one occasion. I wish I could remember the date they played an audio bit on the radio of him saying it. He's a liar and a whiner. It is the same. You obviously don't care and neither does the ManyLiar. But it is the same. If you can't compete with other teams, it's because YOU're doing it wrong. Not because everyone else is. The split is here because you people can't have it both ways. You want to dominate and win trophies while NOT spending the money on the programs. Go look at the public school programs that win, they all have the same thing in common; they put money and attention on the program and the return is a trophy. You're just mad because private schools don't have to go through all the garbage to put money where they decide they want to put it. The playing field isn't level because you people will not do what it takes. So instead of fixing the actual problem, you point fingers at private schools and cry about how it's not fair and how they cheat. NewsFlash here, sparky: Nobody cheated. I come to this board day in and day out only to see you constantly pushing for the split. We have the split. You keep telling people to move on. That's borderline retarded to tell people to move on and then you turn around and keep pushing for something that is in place. A whole new section had to be added to this forum because you cannot let it go. You got what you wanted, so what else is it that you need? Do you need everyone that thinks the split is beyond stupid to agree with you? I hope not, because it'll never happen. So there's my rant for the day. I realize it's a waste of my time, but fortunately I type really fast. Youre correct. Every public school in 30 states is "doing it wrong". No, I dont need anyone to agree. I just have great fun getting a rise out of the cheap seats. THanks!!
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Post by indy on May 6, 2016 12:36:26 GMT -6
wgno.com/2016/01/29/lhsaa-votes-to-split-all-major-high-school-sports/I'm not going to spend my lunch going over Google to find links from what the chubby guy said. He said. On more than one occasion. I wish I could remember the date they played an audio bit on the radio of him saying it. He's a liar and a whiner. It is the same. You obviously don't care and neither does the ManyLiar. But it is the same. If you can't compete with other teams, it's because YOU're doing it wrong. Not because everyone else is. The split is here because you people can't have it both ways. You want to dominate and win trophies while NOT spending the money on the programs. Go look at the public school programs that win, they all have the same thing in common; they put money and attention on the program and the return is a trophy. You're just mad because private schools don't have to go through all the garbage to put money where they decide they want to put it. The playing field isn't level because you people will not do what it takes. So instead of fixing the actual problem, you point fingers at private schools and cry about how it's not fair and how they cheat. NewsFlash here, sparky: Nobody cheated. I come to this board day in and day out only to see you constantly pushing for the split. We have the split. You keep telling people to move on. That's borderline retarded to tell people to move on and then you turn around and keep pushing for something that is in place. A whole new section had to be added to this forum because you cannot let it go. You got what you wanted, so what else is it that you need? Do you need everyone that thinks the split is beyond stupid to agree with you? I hope not, because it'll never happen. So there's my rant for the day. I realize it's a waste of my time, but fortunately I type really fast. Youre correct. Every public school in 30 states is "doing it wrong". No, I dont need anyone to agree. I just have great fun getting a rise out of the cheap seats. THanks!! The legend of delusion has spoken!!! Lol
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Post by iknownuthing on May 9, 2016 9:25:50 GMT -6
Can we argue another point, because I have a few questions? 1. Split stays after June 8th meeting what happens then? 2. Does someone form a new association?
3. Who is behind starting the new association?
4. Is it the Catholic league in New Orleans and if so what happens to the small catholic schools?Catholic schools and the Bishops are in conversation about the possibility of a new association, legal action against the LHSAA, and making the current situation work. Other than that the rest is under gag order. My best guess is that no new organization will happen any time soon, it will be a last resort effort. My hope is to stay together even if the playoffs are split, just a fairer deal for the private schools. The LHSAC is already an entity with the legal minds in place for a non-profit. The schools are waiting on the vote to make the final decision. If the split stays, look for all catholic schools large and small as well as most private schools to move to it within the next 2 to 3 years. Other than what Indy said above. No comment.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 9:02:28 GMT -6
Catholic schools and the Bishops are in conversation about the possibility of a new association, legal action against the LHSAA, and making the current situation work. Other than that the rest is under gag order. My best guess is that no new organization will happen any time soon, it will be a last resort effort. My hope is to stay together even if the playoffs are split, just a fairer deal for the private schools. The LHSAC is already an entity with the legal minds in place for a non-profit. The schools are waiting on the vote to make the final decision. If the split stays, look for all catholic schools large and small as well as most private schools to move to it within the next 2 to 3 years. Other than what Indy said above. No comment. I know what Curly Bill would say......................
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 9:05:38 GMT -6
The LHSAC is already an entity with the legal minds in place for a non-profit. The schools are waiting on the vote to make the final decision. If the split stays, look for all catholic schools large and small as well as most private schools to move to it within the next 2 to 3 years. Other than what Indy said above. No comment. I know what Curly Bill would say...................... My favorite part is when Curly Bill is standing in the creek. Just like the public schools.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2016 9:11:18 GMT -6
I know what Curly Bill would say...................... My favorite part is when Curly Bill is standing in the creek. Just like the public schools. I would have guessed you enjoyed men in wet pants...............thanks for verification
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Post by btown on May 18, 2016 9:14:21 GMT -6
My favorite part is when Curly Bill is standing in the creek. Just like the public schools. I would have guessed you enjoyed men in wet pants...............thanks for verification Since we going with Tombstone this is my favoirte. LOL Public: You skin that smoke wagon and we'll see what happens! Private: Listen mister, I'm getting awful tired of your... Public: Are you gonna do something? Or just stand there and bleed?
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