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Post by btown on May 24, 2016 15:15:01 GMT -6
We talk about pro split, no split the real question is can Bonine lead the LHSAA. Can he come up with a system that satisfies everyone? Can he develope trust?
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 24, 2016 15:30:53 GMT -6
We talk about pro split, no split the real question is can Bonine lead the LHSAA. Can he come up with a system that satisfies everyone? Can he develope trust? I don't think anyone can come up with a system that will satisfy everyone, but that said, I have always been told if the final product makes both sides cringe a little then it will probably be a good one. Neither side getting everything they want, having to compromise hopefully would work. As for trust, I'm not sure he can. I know a lot of "split supporters" on here have either said or made it known that the "select" schools forced Bonine to end the split. I don't know if they did or didn't, but without knowing the whole story sometimes when a story gets repeated over & over it becomes the truth.
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Post by indy on May 24, 2016 15:51:16 GMT -6
We talk about pro split, no split the real question is can Bonine lead the LHSAA. Can he come up with a system that satisfies everyone? Can he develope trust? I don't think anyone can come up with a system that will satisfy everyone, but that said, I have always been told if the final product makes both sides cringe a little then it will probably be a good one. Neither side getting everything they want, having to compromise hopefully would work. As for trust, I'm not sure he can. I know a lot of "split supporters" on here have either said or made it known that the "select" schools forced Bonine to end the split. I don't know if they did or didn't, but without knowing the whole story sometimes when a story gets repeated over & over it becomes the truth. No one forced him to end the split, that's absurd. But the executive committee made getting back together a high priority when they hired him. Right or wrong he was trying his best to resolve the task at hand.
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Post by btown on May 24, 2016 17:18:57 GMT -6
I don't think anyone can come up with a system that will satisfy everyone, but that said, I have always been told if the final product makes both sides cringe a little then it will probably be a good one. Neither side getting everything they want, having to compromise hopefully would work. As for trust, I'm not sure he can. I know a lot of "split supporters" on here have either said or made it known that the "select" schools forced Bonine to end the split. I don't know if they did or didn't, but without knowing the whole story sometimes when a story gets repeated over & over it becomes the truth. No one forced him to end the split, that's absurd. But the executive committee made getting back together a high priority when they hired him. Right or wrong he was trying his best to resolve the task at hand. So waiting for the agenda to come and then saying the split is not valid is trying his best. Split or no split if someone did that to you on something else would you be willing to go in the meeting with a open mind? I know I would not. Also that is what he came up with in the year that they gave him. If he is not smarter than that he is not what LHSAA needs.
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Post by indy on May 24, 2016 17:24:04 GMT -6
No one forced him to end the split, that's absurd. But the executive committee made getting back together a high priority when they hired him. Right or wrong he was trying his best to resolve the task at hand. So waiting for the agenda to come and then saying the split is not valid is trying his best. Split or no split if someone did that to you on something else would you be willing to go in the meeting with a open mind? I know I would not. Also that is what he came up with in the year that they gave him. If he is not smarter than that he is not what LHSAA needs. Henry Kiissinger couldn't resolve this, none of you splitters want it resolved. You will just look for the next excuse.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 17:31:19 GMT -6
So waiting for the agenda to come and then saying the split is not valid is trying his best. Split or no split if someone did that to you on something else would you be willing to go in the meeting with a open mind? I know I would not. Also that is what he came up with in the year that they gave him. If he is not smarter than that he is not what LHSAA needs. Henry Kiissinger couldn't resolve this, none of you splitters want it resolved. You will just look for the next excuse. True, we see it as resolved.
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Post by indy on May 24, 2016 17:44:05 GMT -6
Henry Kiissinger couldn't resolve this, none of you splitters want it resolved. You will just look for the next excuse. True, we see it as resolved. Until the next group of teams you can't beat! Then split 2. And on and on. Same excuses just different teams. Geez
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2016 17:52:27 GMT -6
True, we see it as resolved. Until the next group of teams you can't beat! Then split 2. And on and on. Same excuses just different teams. Geez If it makes you feel better to say that, fine.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 25, 2016 9:17:34 GMT -6
So waiting for the agenda to come and then saying the split is not valid is trying his best. Split or no split if someone did that to you on something else would you be willing to go in the meeting with a open mind? I know I would not. Also that is what he came up with in the year that they gave him. If he is not smarter than that he is not what LHSAA needs. Henry Kiissinger couldn't resolve this, none of you splitters want it resolved. You will just look for the next excuse. DING DING DING we have a winner. NO one can lead the LHSAA, it is an unwieldy wild-thing with principals who think they are the bosses out of control. The Director does not need changing, the organization needs to be completely restructured removing the principals from the governance. The only way for the LHSAA to get control of this is to move all decisions to the executive board, with each class voting on 3 members to the board and one appointed member by the executive director each class.
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Post by btown on May 25, 2016 10:53:17 GMT -6
Henry Kiissinger couldn't resolve this, none of you splitters want it resolved. You will just look for the next excuse. DING DING DING we have a winner. NO one can lead the LHSAA, it is an unwieldy wild-thing with principals who think they are the bosses out of control. The Director does not need changing, the organization needs to be completely restructured removing the principals from the governance. The only way for the LHSAA to get control of this is to move all decisions to the executive board, with each class voting on 3 members to the board and one appointed member by the executive director each class. Not trying make excusses. If you read what I have posted I am saying if you want public and private back togehter there needs to be new leadership. Bonine has caused the public sided to dig in and not be willing to give on nothing. But if you believe NO one can lead the LHSAA, then there is no reason to argue split, no split or any other plan. You need to break off and go your own way. Because a LEADER is the only thing that will bring thing back together. I am trying to give you my opinion of what it would take to bring everyone back together.
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Post by pinion on May 26, 2016 10:54:09 GMT -6
No, he can't.
Before he ever got to Louisiana, it was decided that the pro-split folks were going to hate him. Bonine said he was for trying to get everyone back together and that was it. The pro-split folks have hated him since then and they're not going to STFU until he leaves.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 11:04:44 GMT -6
No, he can't. Before he ever got to Louisiana, it was decided that the pro-split folks were going to hate him. Bonine said he was for trying to get everyone back together and that was it. The pro-split folks have hated him since then and they're not going to STFU until he leaves. I agree. Their opinion of him was predetermined. He was successfull in keeping Nevada together and was Catholic and that was just enough for them to never give him a real chance at succeeding with the LHSAA.
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Post by btown on May 26, 2016 11:26:39 GMT -6
No, he can't. Before he ever got to Louisiana, it was decided that the pro-split folks were going to hate him. Bonine said he was for trying to get everyone back together and that was it. The pro-split folks have hated him since then and they're not going to STFU until he leaves. So you are saying he has done a great job in the way he has handled the split? Does not matter what people have decided prior to him taking the job, did he do a good job in dealing with the split?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 11:39:53 GMT -6
No, he can't. Before he ever got to Louisiana, it was decided that the pro-split folks were going to hate him. Bonine said he was for trying to get everyone back together and that was it. The pro-split folks have hated him since then and they're not going to STFU until he leaves. So you are saying he has done a great job in the way he has handled the split? Does not matter what people have decided prior to him taking the job, did he do a good job in dealing with the split? Not hardly! Publics don't trust him. He needs to apologize for the way he handled it. Before anyone runs to his defense, he should have informed ALL of the members on the executive committee. He only informed a select few.
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Post by 1stdown on May 26, 2016 17:40:57 GMT -6
Maybe he can lead the private schools if they break off into their own league. He sounds like he did everything right according to some people.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 18:03:24 GMT -6
Maybe he can lead the private schools if they break off into their own league. He sounds like he did everything right according to some people. We are negotiating with Kenny Henderson! Lol
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 12:51:49 GMT -6
Maybe he can lead the private schools if they break off into their own league. He sounds like he did everything right according to some people. I agree. Mr Bonine should be the "new League" leader. Great idea!!!
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Post by indy on May 27, 2016 16:18:31 GMT -6
Bonine is more than capable of leading the LHSAA. It's the self centered narrow minded principals and the coaches who prefer to cull teams they can't coach against is where the problem lies. This group of whiners will not be happy until one of there own is in charge.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 9:18:41 GMT -6
Bonine is more than capable of leading the LHSAA. It's the self centered narrow minded principals and the coaches who prefer to cull teams they can't coach against is where the problem lies. This group of whiners will not be happy until one of there own is in charge. He is dishonest. Plain and simple.
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 10:02:40 GMT -6
Bonine is more than capable of leading the LHSAA. It's the self centered narrow minded principals and the coaches who prefer to cull teams they can't coach against is where the problem lies. This group of whiners will not be happy until one of there own is in charge. He is dishonest. Plain and simple. Dishonest? Really? Trying to keep a 100 year old organization together and following bylaws is dishonest. I understand that a lot of people don't like his methods or his personality but to say he is dishonest, plain and simple leads me to believe that you have a problem with his direction, plain and simple.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 10:40:22 GMT -6
He is dishonest. Plain and simple. Dishonest? Really? Trying to keep a 100 year old organization together and following bylaws is dishonest. I understand that a lot of people don't like his methods or his personality but to say he is dishonest, plain and simple leads me to believe that you have a problem with his direction, plain and simple. ABSOLUTELY!!! The majority of the organization has a BIG problem with his "direction". Thanks for the clarification. He wont last. Plan is in progress as we speak.
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 10:46:48 GMT -6
Dishonest? Really? Trying to keep a 100 year old organization together and following bylaws is dishonest. I understand that a lot of people don't like his methods or his personality but to say he is dishonest, plain and simple leads me to believe that you have a problem with his direction, plain and simple. ABSOLUTELY!!! The majority of the organization has a BIG problem with his "direction". Thanks for the clarification. He wont last. Plan is in progress as we speak. Of course you have a problem with it. I can understand that any of you that can't keep up with the better, hard working coaches would.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 11:01:53 GMT -6
ABSOLUTELY!!! The majority of the organization has a BIG problem with his "direction". Thanks for the clarification. He wont last. Plan is in progress as we speak. Of course you have a problem with it. I can understand that any of you that can't keep up with the better, hard working coaches would. Your correct. All us public school bumpkins are lazy. Maybe you private guys should just work harder and compete in the league in which you are placed?
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Post by chalmetteowl on May 29, 2016 11:11:26 GMT -6
Bonine is more than capable of leading the LHSAA. It's the self centered narrow minded principals and the coaches who prefer to cull teams they can't coach against is where the problem lies. This group of whiners will not be happy until one of there own is in charge. He is dishonest. Plain and simple. If the good and honest private schools wanted to stay in the LHSAA they'd be on our side against the athletic factories... instead they defend them.
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 11:18:09 GMT -6
He is dishonest. Plain and simple. If the good and honest private schools wanted to stay in the LHSAA they'd be on our side against the athletic factories... instead they defend them. Don't you coach an athletic factory? You are Record setting and you said you don't lose any athletes to the private schools?
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Post by chalmetteowl on May 29, 2016 12:24:55 GMT -6
If the good and honest private schools wanted to stay in the LHSAA they'd be on our side against the athletic factories... instead they defend them. Don't you coach an athletic factory? You are Record setting and you said you don't lose any athletes to the private schools? I'm not a coach, just a fan
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Post by indy on May 29, 2016 12:34:36 GMT -6
Don't you coach an athletic factory? You are Record setting and you said you don't lose any athletes to the private schools? I'm not a coach, just a fan Yea, my bad. I was going back and fourth with the legend and didn't realize you chimed in. Have a good memorial weekend
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2016 14:55:16 GMT -6
I'm not a coach, just a fan Yea, my bad. I was going back and fourth with the legend and didn't realize you chimed in. Have a good memorial weekend Sorry, I was busy not losing kids to the local private schools. You had a question little one?
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Post by btown on Jul 1, 2016 6:32:44 GMT -6
Dishonest? Really? Trying to keep a 100 year old organization together and following bylaws is dishonest. I understand that a lot of people don't like his methods or his personality but to say he is dishonest, plain and simple leads me to believe that you have a problem with his direction, plain and simple. ABSOLUTELY!!! The majority of the organization has a BIG problem with his "direction". Thanks for the clarification. He wont last. Plan is in progress as we speak. How is his standing with the organization today? To me the article proves he is dishonest, any type of professional with integrity would never say or write thing like that.
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Post by indy on Jul 1, 2016 6:56:28 GMT -6
ABSOLUTELY!!! The majority of the organization has a BIG problem with his "direction". Thanks for the clarification. He wont last. Plan is in progress as we speak. How is his standing with the organization today? To me the article proves he is dishonest, any type of professional with integrity would never say or write thing like that. He was honest in his assessment of the LHSAA. Saying everything is hunky dory would be lying. Geez
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