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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 7, 2016 9:42:18 GMT -6
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 7, 2016 9:48:32 GMT -6
I wonder if any of the sponsors that either have already left the LHSAA or don't renew would go over the the new LHSAC? I'm still not sure that this will change any principal's mind (pro-split).
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 7, 2016 10:48:22 GMT -6
I wonder if any of the sponsors that either have already left the LHSAA or don't renew would go over the the new LHSAC? I'm still not sure that this will change any principal's mind (pro-split). Absolutely will not change any pro split minds. They cannot see the forest, there are too many trees in the way. Emotion will always trump rationality and the pro-split people are emotionally charged and irrational. You experience it right here on this board, the emotional always go to the name calling and insulting when they have no rational argument to support their emotions and position and will not change that position even if it ends in disaster. It is all based on jealousy, greed and immaturity.
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Post by pinion on Jun 7, 2016 11:22:29 GMT -6
Yeah, I don't think it will matter to the splitters either. They'd rather see sports go away than to come back together in any fashion.
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Post by btown on Jun 7, 2016 12:11:14 GMT -6
I wonder if any of the sponsors that either have already left the LHSAA or don't renew would go over the the new LHSAC? I'm still not sure that this will change any principal's mind (pro-split). Absolutely will not change any pro split minds. They cannot see the forest, there are too many trees in the way. Emotion will always trump rationality and the pro-split people are emotionally charged and irrational. You experience it right here on this board, the emotional always go to the name calling and insulting when they have no rational argument to support their emotions and position and will not change that position even if it ends in disaster. It is all based on jealousy, greed and immaturity. You say the pro split go to name calling and insults. I quit posting because when I gave my opinion I was insulted. I say both sides can irrational and emotional. Neither side sees the other sides opinion.
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Post by eag on Jun 7, 2016 12:29:19 GMT -6
Absolutely will not change any pro split minds. They cannot see the forest, there are too many trees in the way. Emotion will always trump rationality and the pro-split people are emotionally charged and irrational. You experience it right here on this board, the emotional always go to the name calling and insulting when they have no rational argument to support their emotions and position and will not change that position even if it ends in disaster. It is all based on jealousy, greed and immaturity. You say the pro split go to name calling and insults. I quit posting because when I gave my opinion I was insulted. I say both sides can irrational and emotional. Neither side sees the other sides opinion. I agree we all could be better as far as reigning in our emotions, BUT - I have seen multiple suggestions for ways to rectify competitive imbalance suggested on the board. Many, many suggestions. Pretty much all have been from split opponents. I think it indicates split opponents, at least on here, do go out of their way to see the point of view of the ' splitters'. I don't see nearly as much of that going the other way. You get credit from me because most of the time you seem to at least listen, but even still seem at the end of the day to not really be especially motivated to make a better mousetrap. I've said it before on here and will say it again-- my personal opinion is to just play together by size. I know full well there are a dozen or so teams we likely will never be able to beat without a fluke, but that's ok with me. I know what JC is, and I know what we are, and I don't really care. Would love to play them. Don't care if they win every state championship from now until forever. That said, I've spent quite a bit of time thinking up potential solutions and even have suggested them to people with ability to bring it up the chain, all because I give credence to the issues that guys like you, Bigbob, Many's principal, etc have even though I do not share the concern. We are all in an organization that is supposed to work in everyone's best interest, so a situation that doesn't work for a large number of members needs changing. The current solution doesn't work for a large number of the members. Essentially no private schools like it. Where is the reciprocal consideration? Thats what Iknownothing's forest and trees comment means to me. To much emotion - ' we gotta get rid of these big bad private schools, send them away. Yes, I know your school isn't a problem, but too bad. We gotta send y'all away so we can get rid of ..."
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 7, 2016 12:31:10 GMT -6
I wonder if any of the sponsors that either have already left the LHSAA or don't renew would go over the the new LHSAC? I'm still not sure that this will change any principal's mind (pro-split). I wish I would have left off that last sentence..... Now the original question.....Do y'all think any of the sponsors that have already left or don't renew with the LHSAA will go over to the LHSAC if it get's up & running?
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Post by gentsandpios on Jun 7, 2016 13:52:21 GMT -6
I wonder if any of the sponsors that either have already left the LHSAA or don't renew would go over the the new LHSAC? I'm still not sure that this will change any principal's mind (pro-split). I wish I would have left off that last sentence..... Now the original question.....Do y'all think any of the sponsors that have already left or don't renew with the LHSAA will go over to the LHSAC if it get's up & running? I don't think so, at least not at first. If you decided to get out of the sport sponsorship deal because it has become too political then why would you jump back into it when it is even more political. If you got out due to economic issues again why get back into it. I think they will be able to find some new companies willing to sponsor major sporting events, just don't think it will be the same ones getting out now.
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Post by indy on Jun 7, 2016 14:05:17 GMT -6
I wish I would have left off that last sentence..... Now the original question.....Do y'all think any of the sponsors that have already left or don't renew with the LHSAA will go over to the LHSAC if it get's up & running? I don't think so, at least not at first. If you decided to get out of the sport sponsorship deal because it has become too political then why would you jump back into it when it is even more political. If you got out due to economic issues again why get back into it. I think they will be able to find some new companies willing to sponsor major sporting events, just don't think it will be the same ones getting out now. A new organization will need a lot less money than the LHSAA, it will start with very little overhead and much if not all pro bono work by attorneys and accountants. Sponsors will look at it as making donations and not as a ROI like the current sponsors do. This will give the private league a good head start but ultimately will have to cash flow to survive. The LHSAA will have huge legal bills, a huge overhead in people and property and hard to get sponsors because of discrimination.
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Post by eag on Jun 7, 2016 14:08:23 GMT -6
I wonder if any of the sponsors that either have already left the LHSAA or don't renew would go over the the new LHSAC? I'm still not sure that this will change any principal's mind (pro-split). I wish I would have left off that last sentence..... Now the original question.....Do y'all think any of the sponsors that have already left or don't renew with the LHSAA will go over to the LHSAC if it get's up & running? I tend to doubt that any sponsors have left with an eye on switching sponsorships in the future. Some may have relationships with members of any new organization so may show up there but I tend to think by and large they will sit out a couple of years. After that, who knows?
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 7, 2016 15:13:12 GMT -6
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Post by eag on Jun 7, 2016 17:06:27 GMT -6
I have kind of got to the point where I liked those games better than college and pro games
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Post by indy on Jun 7, 2016 17:15:16 GMT -6
I have kind of got to the point where I liked those games better than college and pro games Yea me too, hopefully the local stations will still carry some of them. I'm real familiar with a local company who is a major sponsor of local games in the Acadiana area and they will pull the plug if we have a total split. They won't do private or public games.
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Post by indy on Jun 7, 2016 17:53:06 GMT -6
I have kind of got to the point where I liked those games better than college and pro games Yea me too, hopefully the local stations will still carry some of them. I'm real familiar with a local company who is a major sponsor of local games in the Acadiana area and they will pull the plug if we have a total split. They won't do private or public games. Cox 37 right now is replaying a 1990 game between john Ehret and Nevelle. That's random
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 8, 2016 9:09:05 GMT -6
Absolutely will not change any pro split minds. They cannot see the forest, there are too many trees in the way. Emotion will always trump rationality and the pro-split people are emotionally charged and irrational. You experience it right here on this board, the emotional always go to the name calling and insulting when they have no rational argument to support their emotions and position and will not change that position even if it ends in disaster. It is all based on jealousy, greed and immaturity. You say the pro split go to name calling and insults. I quit posting because when I gave my opinion I was insulted. I say both sides can irrational and emotional. Neither side sees the other sides opinion. Sorry if you feelings were hurt. Not the intention. You will find that the reason our side is so adamant against the split is that we are the target of the punishment and it is unjust. I once had a teacher in college who was a very poor teacher. It was a freshman level class. She lost control of the classroom the first day of school. Some of the kids would openly question her authority and act out in class. They were out of control and she had no ability to regain that control. So after about a week, I started trying to get out of that class and into another one, but they were all full. One day she walks into the classroom and tells everyone to get out a piece of paper and she gave a pop test on subject matter that was not yet assigned and then walked out of the class room with the papers. She did this every session for a week. On the Monday class after this she returns the papers with every answer marked wrong on every students in the classes tests. Essentially she failed the whole class. Now I understood what she wanted to do. So I and one other student sitting next to me asked if we could go over the test questions in class. Both the other student and I got almost all of the questions correct but they were marked wrong. So after class we went to her with our papers showing that we had the correct answers. She originally refused to change our grades. Once I explained to her that our next step was to go to her director and file a formal complaint against her, she changed the grades for both of us. My other option was to drop the class. Here we have a similar situation. Instead of getting rid of the perceived problem, the LHSAA is trying to punish the whole class. THIS NEVER works it only heightens the resistance. They fired the teacher after she turned in her grades. I suffered because I needed the class, Got an A in it, but it was a prerequisite and we did not cover the material that was required. It made that next level class more difficult. We do not want to leave the LHSAA, we want to stay, but we have to be equal members and we are no longer.
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Post by indy on Jun 8, 2016 9:46:29 GMT -6
You say the pro split go to name calling and insults. I quit posting because when I gave my opinion I was insulted. I say both sides can irrational and emotional. Neither side sees the other sides opinion. Sorry if you feelings were hurt. Not the intention. You will find that the reason our side is so adamant against the split is that we are the target of the punishment and it is unjust. I once had a teacher in college who was a very poor teacher. It was a freshman level class. She lost control of the classroom the first day of school. Some of the kids would openly question her authority and act out in class. They were out of control and she had no ability to regain that control. So after about a week, I started trying to get out of that class and into another one, but they were all full. One day she walks into the classroom and tells everyone to get out a piece of paper and she gave a pop test on subject matter that was not yet assigned and then walked out of the class room with the papers. She did this every session for a week. On the Monday class after this she returns the papers with every answer marked wrong on every students in the classes tests. Essentially she failed the whole class. Now I understood what she wanted to do. So I and one other student sitting next to me asked if we could go over the test questions in class. Both the other student and I got almost all of the questions correct but they were marked wrong. So after class we went to her with our papers showing that we had the correct answers. She originally refused to change our grades. Once I explained to her that our next step was to go to her director and file a formal complaint against her, she changed the grades for both of us. My other option was to drop the class. Here we have a similar situation. Instead of getting rid of the perceived problem, the LHSAA is trying to punish the whole class. THIS NEVER works it only heightens the resistance. They fired the teacher after she turned in her grades. I suffered because I needed the class, Got an A in it, but it was a prerequisite and we did not cover the material that was required. It made that next level class more difficult. We do not want to leave the LHSAA, we want to stay, but we have to be equal members and we are no longer. They are actually only punishing 1/4 of the class and giving the rest a hall pass and a meal ticket. Pretty much the same in life with .
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Post by pinion on Jun 8, 2016 11:21:35 GMT -6
Also, the split was perpetuated on a lie. Whatshisface from Many said that the split is because private schools recruit. Y'all can come on here and say that the split is for whatever reasons you want to give, but at the end of the day, that man said that it was because private schools recruit. He's the one that's been leading the charge. So, any other reasons are simply items we discuss and debate here.
The only person I've called a name was the guy from Many. And I was chastised for it by the admin here. Evidently, some people can say (with whatever language they choose) whatever they want and some people can't.
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Post by indy on Jun 8, 2016 11:31:22 GMT -6
Also, the split was perpetuated on a lie. Whatshisface from Many said that the split is because private schools recruit. Y'all can come on here and say that the split is for whatever reasons you want to give, but at the end of the day, that man said that it was because private schools recruit. He's the one that's been leading the charge. So, any other reasons are simply items we discuss and debate here. The only person I've called a name was the guy from Many. And I was chastised for it by the admin here. Evidently, some people can say (with whatever language they choose) whatever they want and some people can't. Amen! I got booted for several months for telling the truth!
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