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Post by me3 on Jun 10, 2016 8:43:43 GMT -6
www.theneworleansadvocate.com/sports/preps/16059194-128/bishops-of-louisiana-to-study-athletic-options“The Bishops of Louisiana have approved the formation of a task force to continue looking into all options when it comes to the future of Catholic High School athletics. The task force will continue to meet in the coming months. By no means does this mean the Catholic schools of Louisiana have closed the door on LHSAA membership, nor has there been a commitment to any one future plan. The task force will be working for what is in the best interest of the student-athletes in Catholic schools throughout the state.” Thats a block of 43 schools. I assume the Catholic schools run by Religious Orders and not a specific Diocese ie St. Aug, Jesuit will also do what the task force recommends. Its a sad time in my opinion.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 11, 2016 17:02:30 GMT -6
I posted this on another thread. But you are reading too little into this move. The only reason that there is not another association already is that the Arch Bishop said stay and work things out. That did not work. Once the "task force" returns look for a mass exodus out of the LHSAA. It they don't then they just need to be 2nd class citizens for the remainder of their existence in the LHSAA. These schools thrive on excellence not on being 2nd class.
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Post by me3 on Jun 13, 2016 7:37:08 GMT -6
No. I completely agree. Seems that the Bishops never move with haste in anything they do. They seem always willing to give that one last chance. Legislature, Sponsors, LHSAA leadership were all give another opportunity. The "Hail Mary" was the June 8 meeting. Forming this task force is a big thing. It is a done deal as soon as the task force says that everything that could be done was done.
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Post by indy on Jun 13, 2016 7:44:48 GMT -6
No. I completely agree. Seems that the Bishops never move with haste in anything they do. They seem always willing to give that one last chance. Legislature, Sponsors, LHSAA leadership were all give another opportunity. The "Hail Mary" was the June 8 meeting. Forming this task force is a big thing. It is a done deal as soon as the task force says that everything that could be done was done. Don't assume the only option is to leave. The Bishops are fully aware of legal options and the option of negotiations.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 13, 2016 8:40:47 GMT -6
No. I completely agree. Seems that the Bishops never move with haste in anything they do. They seem always willing to give that one last chance. Legislature, Sponsors, LHSAA leadership were all give another opportunity. The "Hail Mary" was the June 8 meeting. Forming this task force is a big thing. It is a done deal as soon as the task force says that everything that could be done was done. Don't assume the only option is to leave. The Bishops are fully aware of legal options and the option of negotiations. I believe they will leave the legal options off the table to show good faith moving forward after they move to a new association. The object would be for the LHSAA to approve intra-associational play. You cannot negotiate with those unwilling to compromise so this and any other negotations are not reasonable. The public school principals have shown they are not willing to compromise. I believe it is a simple consideration for the task force: 1. To stay in the LHSAA and accept without complaint any and all rules as established by the Public school principals, no matter how egregious and off putting they may be nor how unjust, they will never allow the private schools the power of self determination. that is a pipe dream. Even if they add a multiplier to all private schools forcing what are now 1A schools into 3A and 4A classifications and 2A schools into the highest classification. Even if they decide that all privates must all play up if they win a district title two years in a row. Even if they add additional fees for private schools to stay in the association. Even if they force the private schools to pay a larger percentages of their weekly gate to the association. Even if the public school principals declare that any student not living within the immediate attendance zone is ineligible for 4 years and cannot play period, but they leave the 1 year transfer rule in place for publics even if it is a bonefide move. I believe all these are next in an attempt to make private education as a whole less attractive. 2. Move to a new organization for Catholic Schools only. 3. Move to an all schools association that accepts all schools equally, traditional public, private, magnet, charter, Christian, Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist or other. One that offers an opportunity for Home School kids also. Other than these three, I do not see what else is available. Maybe they want to talk to MAIS and Texas Independent Schools about consolidation and setting up a multi state association that crowns both a state and Gulf Coast Championship
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 13, 2016 9:02:48 GMT -6
Don't assume the only option is to leave. The Bishops are fully aware of legal options and the option of negotiations. I believe they will leave the legal options off the table to show good faith moving forward after they move to a new association. The object would be for the LHSAA to approve intra-associational play. You cannot negotiate with those unwilling to compromise so this and any other negotations are not reasonable. The public school principals have shown they are not willing to compromise. I believe it is a simple consideration for the task force: 1. To stay in the LHSAA and accept without complaint any and all rules as established by the Public school principals, no matter how egregious and off putting they may be nor how unjust, they will never allow the private schools the power of self determination. that is a pipe dream. Even if they add a multiplier to all private schools forcing what are now 1A schools into 3A and 4A classifications and 2A schools into the highest classification. Even if they decide that all privates must all play up if they win a district title two years in a row. Even if they add additional fees for private schools to stay in the association. Even if they force the private schools to pay a larger percentages of their weekly gate to the association. Even if the public school principals declare that any student not living within the immediate attendance zone is ineligible for 4 years and cannot play period, but they leave the 1 year transfer rule in place for publics even if it is a bonefide move. I believe all these are next in an attempt to make private education as a whole less attractive. 2. Move to a new organization for Catholic Schools only. 3. Move to an all schools association that accepts all schools equally, traditional public, private, magnet, charter, Christian, Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist or other. One that offers an opportunity for Home School kids also.Other than these three, I do not see what else is available. Maybe they want to talk to MAIS and Texas Independent Schools about consolidation and setting up a multi state association that crowns both a state and Gulf Coast Championship i would seriously consider staying in the LHSAA and give the split principals enough rope to hang themselves... at some point, there's only so much they can do. public school jimmies will be rustled over schools they only have to see by choice if they want to... i'm against letting home school kids play on LHSAA teams. this is HIGH SCHOOL athletics, not high school + random kids from the neighborhood athletics. however, LHSAA schools should be allowed to play homeschool teams to help with scheduling and inter-associational play, if not allowed, not only hurts private schools but also some of the LHSAA's own
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Post by indy on Jun 13, 2016 9:10:31 GMT -6
Don't assume the only option is to leave. The Bishops are fully aware of legal options and the option of negotiations. I believe they will leave the legal options off the table to show good faith moving forward after they move to a new association. The object would be for the LHSAA to approve intra-associational play. You cannot negotiate with those unwilling to compromise so this and any other negotations are not reasonable. The public school principals have shown they are not willing to compromise. I believe it is a simple consideration for the task force: 1. To stay in the LHSAA and accept without complaint any and all rules as established by the Public school principals, no matter how egregious and off putting they may be nor how unjust, they will never allow the private schools the power of self determination. that is a pipe dream. Even if they add a multiplier to all private schools forcing what are now 1A schools into 3A and 4A classifications and 2A schools into the highest classification. Even if they decide that all privates must all play up if they win a district title two years in a row. Even if they add additional fees for private schools to stay in the association. Even if they force the private schools to pay a larger percentages of their weekly gate to the association. Even if the public school principals declare that any student not living within the immediate attendance zone is ineligible for 4 years and cannot play period, but they leave the 1 year transfer rule in place for publics even if it is a bonefide move. I believe all these are next in an attempt to make private education as a whole less attractive. 2. Move to a new organization for Catholic Schools only. 3. Move to an all schools association that accepts all schools equally, traditional public, private, magnet, charter, Christian, Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist or other. One that offers an opportunity for Home School kids also. Other than these three, I do not see what else is available. Maybe they want to talk to MAIS and Texas Independent Schools about consolidation and setting up a multi state association that crowns both a state and Gulf Coast Championship Don't count out the legal option. They call it select and non select but don't be fooled, it's public/ private. The Catholic Church will defend itself against discrimination.
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Post by pinion on Jun 13, 2016 11:13:25 GMT -6
Don't assume the only option is to leave. The Bishops are fully aware of legal options and the option of negotiations. I believe they will leave the legal options off the table to show good faith moving forward after they move to a new association. The object would be for the LHSAA to approve intra-associational play. You cannot negotiate with those unwilling to compromise so this and any other negotations are not reasonable. The public school principals have shown they are not willing to compromise. I believe it is a simple consideration for the task force: 1. To stay in the LHSAA and accept without complaint any and all rules as established by the Public school principals, no matter how egregious and off putting they may be nor how unjust, they will never allow the private schools the power of self determination. that is a pipe dream. Even if they add a multiplier to all private schools forcing what are now 1A schools into 3A and 4A classifications and 2A schools into the highest classification. Even if they decide that all privates must all play up if they win a district title two years in a row. Even if they add additional fees for private schools to stay in the association. Even if they force the private schools to pay a larger percentages of their weekly gate to the association. Even if the public school principals declare that any student not living within the immediate attendance zone is ineligible for 4 years and cannot play period, but they leave the 1 year transfer rule in place for publics even if it is a bonefide move. I believe all these are next in an attempt to make private education as a whole less attractive. 2. Move to a new organization for Catholic Schools only. 3. Move to an all schools association that accepts all schools equally, traditional public, private, magnet, charter, Christian, Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist or other. One that offers an opportunity for Home School kids also. Other than these three, I do not see what else is available. Maybe they want to talk to MAIS and Texas Independent Schools about consolidation and setting up a multi state association that crowns both a state and Gulf Coast Championship 1: Not likely. I can't see where the Catholic schools are going to stay in the LHSAA any longer than they have to, with the way things are. 2: Doubtful because it would cause a rift with other private schools. It's bad enough to have all the public schools hate you, they don't need any more people hating on them. And there is strength in numbers. We're all better together and that's why they wanted to get things situated with the LHSAA. But, as you said, you cannot compromise with people who do not wish to compromise. 3: The most likely (and sane) scenario. I doubt the MAIS is seen as an option and I'd be pretty shocked if any association in Texas wanted to expand or consolidate. I love Texas. But Texas considers itself to be very much better than anyone else. Texas response would very likely be the same as it is when you suggest they go somewhere other than Texas to play a game. That being: "Why do we need to go anywhere? The very best competition is right here in Texas". Though, I have heard from a few folks that one of the smaller private school leagues over there may be interested in picking up some Louisiana private schools. But I don't know that any private schools in Louisiana would be willing to break with the others, in regards to a league.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 13, 2016 20:07:02 GMT -6
I believe they will leave the legal options off the table to show good faith moving forward after they move to a new association. The object would be for the LHSAA to approve intra-associational play. You cannot negotiate with those unwilling to compromise so this and any other negotations are not reasonable. The public school principals have shown they are not willing to compromise. I believe it is a simple consideration for the task force: 1. To stay in the LHSAA and accept without complaint any and all rules as established by the Public school principals, no matter how egregious and off putting they may be nor how unjust, they will never allow the private schools the power of self determination. that is a pipe dream. Even if they add a multiplier to all private schools forcing what are now 1A schools into 3A and 4A classifications and 2A schools into the highest classification. Even if they decide that all privates must all play up if they win a district title two years in a row. Even if they add additional fees for private schools to stay in the association. Even if they force the private schools to pay a larger percentages of their weekly gate to the association. Even if the public school principals declare that any student not living within the immediate attendance zone is ineligible for 4 years and cannot play period, but they leave the 1 year transfer rule in place for publics even if it is a bonefide move. I believe all these are next in an attempt to make private education as a whole less attractive. 2. Move to a new organization for Catholic Schools only. 3. Move to an all schools association that accepts all schools equally, traditional public, private, magnet, charter, Christian, Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist or other. One that offers an opportunity for Home School kids also. Other than these three, I do not see what else is available. Maybe they want to talk to MAIS and Texas Independent Schools about consolidation and setting up a multi state association that crowns both a state and Gulf Coast Championship Don't count out the legal option. They call it select and non select but don't be fooled, it's public/ private. The Catholic Church will defend itself against discrimination. I would expect them to push out a red herring to test that water but not go through with an actual filing. While I agree that they will be willing to defend the Church, I don't know if they would extend that to the schools. After all, more Catholics attend public school than Catholic School. We had this locally, where the KofC felt they were doing too much for the local Church school. They went down to do equal work at the public school and were told they were not welcome. That separation of Church and STATE thingy got in the way. OUCH. Now, the GK sends his kids to the Church school.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 13, 2016 20:10:25 GMT -6
I believe they will leave the legal options off the table to show good faith moving forward after they move to a new association. The object would be for the LHSAA to approve intra-associational play. You cannot negotiate with those unwilling to compromise so this and any other negotations are not reasonable. The public school principals have shown they are not willing to compromise. I believe it is a simple consideration for the task force: 1. To stay in the LHSAA and accept without complaint any and all rules as established by the Public school principals, no matter how egregious and off putting they may be nor how unjust, they will never allow the private schools the power of self determination. that is a pipe dream. Even if they add a multiplier to all private schools forcing what are now 1A schools into 3A and 4A classifications and 2A schools into the highest classification. Even if they decide that all privates must all play up if they win a district title two years in a row. Even if they add additional fees for private schools to stay in the association. Even if they force the private schools to pay a larger percentages of their weekly gate to the association. Even if the public school principals declare that any student not living within the immediate attendance zone is ineligible for 4 years and cannot play period, but they leave the 1 year transfer rule in place for publics even if it is a bonefide move. I believe all these are next in an attempt to make private education as a whole less attractive. 2. Move to a new organization for Catholic Schools only. 3. Move to an all schools association that accepts all schools equally, traditional public, private, magnet, charter, Christian, Catholic, Episcopal, Baptist or other. One that offers an opportunity for Home School kids also. Other than these three, I do not see what else is available. Maybe they want to talk to MAIS and Texas Independent Schools about consolidation and setting up a multi state association that crowns both a state and Gulf Coast Championship 1: Not likely. I can't see where the Catholic schools are going to stay in the LHSAA any longer than they have to, with the way things are. 2: Doubtful because it would cause a rift with other private schools. It's bad enough to have all the public schools hate you, they don't need any more people hating on them. And there is strength in numbers. We're all better together and that's why they wanted to get things situated with the LHSAA. But, as you said, you cannot compromise with people who do not wish to compromise. 3: The most likely (and sane) scenario. I doubt the MAIS is seen as an option and I'd be pretty shocked if any association in Texas wanted to expand or consolidate. I love Texas. But Texas considers itself to be very much better than anyone else. Texas response would very likely be the same as it is when you suggest they go somewhere other than Texas to play a game. That being: "Why do we need to go anywhere? The very best competition is right here in Texas". Though, I have heard from a few folks that one of the smaller private school leagues over there may be interested in picking up some Louisiana private schools. But I don't know that any private schools in Louisiana would be willing to break with the others, in regards to a league. The Texas consolidation would be a long shot, but worth extending an offer. I spoke with a couple of parents (clients of mine) who send their kids to an MAIS school in BR, and they say the school would jump at the chance to join a Louisiana Private schools association and they felt the MAIS would be interested in some sort of an agreement. Can't hurt to try and increase that footprint if you can..
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Post by pinion on Jun 14, 2016 6:48:09 GMT -6
1: Not likely. I can't see where the Catholic schools are going to stay in the LHSAA any longer than they have to, with the way things are. 2: Doubtful because it would cause a rift with other private schools. It's bad enough to have all the public schools hate you, they don't need any more people hating on them. And there is strength in numbers. We're all better together and that's why they wanted to get things situated with the LHSAA. But, as you said, you cannot compromise with people who do not wish to compromise. 3: The most likely (and sane) scenario. I doubt the MAIS is seen as an option and I'd be pretty shocked if any association in Texas wanted to expand or consolidate. I love Texas. But Texas considers itself to be very much better than anyone else. Texas response would very likely be the same as it is when you suggest they go somewhere other than Texas to play a game. That being: "Why do we need to go anywhere? The very best competition is right here in Texas". Though, I have heard from a few folks that one of the smaller private school leagues over there may be interested in picking up some Louisiana private schools. But I don't know that any private schools in Louisiana would be willing to break with the others, in regards to a league. The Texas consolidation would be a long shot, but worth extending an offer. I spoke with a couple of parents (clients of mine) who send their kids to an MAIS school in BR, and they say the school would jump at the chance to join a Louisiana Private schools association and they felt the MAIS would be interested in some sort of an agreement. Can't hurt to try and increase that footprint if you can.. I agree completely. It's not a bad thing to look into it at all. I also agree that attempting to work with Texas is worth it, as well. I wouldn't be mad at either of those situations. The only situation I'm NOT okay with is sticking with the LHSAA when they're doing their best shove the private schools out. The LHSAA public schools are working against the private schools, so there is no gain by staying. IMO.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 14, 2016 7:09:09 GMT -6
The Texas consolidation would be a long shot, but worth extending an offer. I spoke with a couple of parents (clients of mine) who send their kids to an MAIS school in BR, and they say the school would jump at the chance to join a Louisiana Private schools association and they felt the MAIS would be interested in some sort of an agreement. Can't hurt to try and increase that footprint if you can.. I agree completely. It's not a bad thing to look into it at all. I also agree that attempting to work with Texas is worth it, as well. I wouldn't be mad at either of those situations. The only situation I'm NOT okay with is sticking with the LHSAA when they're doing their best shove the private schools out. The LHSAA public schools are working against the private schools, so there is no gain by staying. IMO. I feel that Texas will be a long shot. I also know the MAIS has worked before with Catholic Schools to join at a late date. www.clarionledger.com/story/prepsreport/2015/07/29/st-aloysius-leaves-mhsaa--mais/30826813/Not saying that this is the best option, but it may work in this case.
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Post by pinion on Jun 14, 2016 10:58:51 GMT -6
I agree completely. It's not a bad thing to look into it at all. I also agree that attempting to work with Texas is worth it, as well. I wouldn't be mad at either of those situations. The only situation I'm NOT okay with is sticking with the LHSAA when they're doing their best shove the private schools out. The LHSAA public schools are working against the private schools, so there is no gain by staying. IMO. I feel that Texas will be a long shot. I also know the MAIS has worked before with Catholic Schools to join at a late date. www.clarionledger.com/story/prepsreport/2015/07/29/st-aloysius-leaves-mhsaa--mais/30826813/Not saying that this is the best option, but it may work in this case. I'm not saying joining the MAIS would be a bad thing. I, too, think it could certainly be workable. My biggest fear from such a move would be that some of the MAIS schools would feel like they were being overrun by incoming teams. I think it would be more viable to create a new league and invite Louisiana schools currently in the MAIS to come on board. But if we had to join an existing league, they couldn't possibly hate and crap on us as much as the Louisiana public school league currently does.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 14, 2016 11:18:46 GMT -6
I'm not saying joining the MAIS would be a bad thing. I, too, think it could certainly be workable. My biggest fear from such a move would be that some of the MAIS schools would feel like they were being overrun by incoming teams. I think it would be more viable to create a new league and invite Louisiana schools currently in the MAIS to come on board. But if we had to join an existing league, they couldn't possibly hate and crap on us as much as the Louisiana public school league currently does. I agree on the overrun part. Not sure how many MAIS schools are currently in LA, that could be invited in. I just hope that the decision makers do something sooner rather than later. I would hope that they have been in discussion since at the latest April when the special meeting/vote was called knowing nothing would change.
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2016 11:28:13 GMT -6
I'm not saying joining the MAIS would be a bad thing. I, too, think it could certainly be workable. My biggest fear from such a move would be that some of the MAIS schools would feel like they were being overrun by incoming teams. I think it would be more viable to create a new league and invite Louisiana schools currently in the MAIS to come on board. But if we had to join an existing league, they couldn't possibly hate and crap on us as much as the Louisiana public school league currently does. I agree on the overrun part. Not sure how many MAIS schools are currently in LA, that could be invited in. I just hope that the decision makers do something sooner rather than later. I would hope that they have been in discussion since at the latest April when the special meeting/vote was called knowing nothing would change. How many schools in th MAIS? How many from La? What is their size range? Just curious, I always assumed it was very small schools. I like having our own league but if we in sync with them could be good for scheduling games.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 14, 2016 11:57:53 GMT -6
I agree on the overrun part. Not sure how many MAIS schools are currently in LA, that could be invited in. I just hope that the decision makers do something sooner rather than later. I would hope that they have been in discussion since at the latest April when the special meeting/vote was called knowing nothing would change. How many schools in th MAIS? How many from La? What is their size range? Just curious, I always assumed it was very small schools. I like having our own league but if we in sync with them could be good for scheduling games. Not sure on total number or number in La. Looks like mostly small schools, they do have 2 divisions for 4A.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2016 12:07:38 GMT -6
How many schools in th MAIS? How many from La? What is their size range? Just curious, I always assumed it was very small schools. I like having our own league but if we in sync with them could be good for scheduling games. Not sure on total number or number in La. Looks like mostly small schools, they do have 2 divisions for 4A. One area that would benefit from a new league if they were willing to join would be the north shore and north of BR. There are four schools that would all fall into the 1A or 2A class. Oak Forest (Amite), Silliman (Clinton), Bowling Green (Franklinton), and Central Private (Central). They would help add to the core group of 1A and 2A schools in that area. I know that you still have Riverdale (Couchatta), River Oaks (Monroe), as well as I think Ridgedale, and Briarfield in the northeast. I'm sure they all fall in the 1A to 2A size.
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Post by airraider on Jun 14, 2016 12:18:16 GMT -6
How many schools in th MAIS? How many from La? What is their size range? Just curious, I always assumed it was very small schools. I like having our own league but if we in sync with them could be good for scheduling games. Not sure on total number or number in La. Looks like mostly small schools, they do have 2 divisions for 4A. A decent amount of the MAIS schools in Louisiana are playing 8 man. Some of them may have the numbers to play 11 man in a new league... but some are doing so due to numbers. One thing about the MAIS, not sure how open they would be about letting in a ton of teams that would make Jackson Prep and Jackson Academy also rans. Those are really good programs and would do well vs lots of LHSAA teams... but you put the big privates from LHSAA in the mix, and the domination of those 2 would deminish... not sure they would be up that.
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2016 12:23:44 GMT -6
Not sure on total number or number in La. Looks like mostly small schools, they do have 2 divisions for 4A. A decent amount of the MAIS schools in Louisiana are playing 8 man. Some of them may have the numbers to play 11 man in a new league... but some are doing so due to numbers. One thing about the MAIS, not sure how open they would be about letting in a ton of teams that would make Jackson Prep and Jackson Academy also rans. Those are really good programs and would do well vs lots of LHSAA teams... but you put the big privates from LHSAA in the mix, and the domination of those 2 would deminish... not sure they would be up that. Makes sense, but I'm sure they open to scheduling games? I still like having our own league if nothing is worked out with the public whiner league assoc.
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Post by airraider on Jun 14, 2016 13:03:37 GMT -6
A decent amount of the MAIS schools in Louisiana are playing 8 man. Some of them may have the numbers to play 11 man in a new league... but some are doing so due to numbers. One thing about the MAIS, not sure how open they would be about letting in a ton of teams that would make Jackson Prep and Jackson Academy also rans. Those are really good programs and would do well vs lots of LHSAA teams... but you put the big privates from LHSAA in the mix, and the domination of those 2 would deminish... not sure they would be up that. Makes sense, but I'm sure they open to scheduling games? I still like having our own league if nothing is worked out with the public whiner league assoc. For sure! The MAIS is pretty laid back in terms of rules. The rule for when a kid turns 19 is a month later than the LHSAA. They allow recruiting as long as the kid is not from a member school. They allow "scholarships" as long as there is a financial plan in place. Their only academic requirement deals with the passing of a certain amount of classes... not GPA rule. You can play anyone, including home school teams. Those are just few of the laid back rules I can think of... But.. they are very strict in terms of suspensions and such. If a coach is kicked out of a game, it hits them in the pocket. Both the school and the coach is fined.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 14, 2016 13:19:35 GMT -6
I'm not saying joining the MAIS would be a bad thing. I, too, think it could certainly be workable. My biggest fear from such a move would be that some of the MAIS schools would feel like they were being overrun by incoming teams. I think it would be more viable to create a new league and invite Louisiana schools currently in the MAIS to come on board. But if we had to join an existing league, they couldn't possibly hate and crap on us as much as the Louisiana public school league currently does. I agree on the overrun part. Not sure how many MAIS schools are currently in LA, that could be invited in. I just hope that the decision makers do something sooner rather than later. I would hope that they have been in discussion since at the latest April when the special meeting/vote was called knowing nothing would change. I did not mean that they would join the MAIS, but rather work out a plan for competition between schools. But very possibly, there could be a consolidation into a multi state association.
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2016 13:19:40 GMT -6
Makes sense, but I'm sure they open to scheduling games? I still like having our own league if nothing is worked out with the public whiner league assoc. For sure! The MAIS is pretty laid back in terms of rules. The rule for when a kid turns 19 is a month later than the LHSAA. They allow recruiting as long as the kid is not from a member school. They allow "scholarships" as long as there is a financial plan in place. Their only academic requirement deals with the passing of a certain amount of classes... not GPA rule. You can play anyone, including home school teams. Those are just few of the laid back rules I can think of... But.. they are very strict in terms of suspensions and such. If a coach is kicked out of a game, it hits them in the pocket. Both the school and the coach is fined. Sounds just like the LHSAA! Lol
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Post by pinion on Jun 15, 2016 8:56:50 GMT -6
Makes sense, but I'm sure they open to scheduling games? I still like having our own league if nothing is worked out with the public whiner league assoc. For sure! The MAIS is pretty laid back in terms of rules. The rule for when a kid turns 19 is a month later than the LHSAA. They allow recruiting as long as the kid is not from a member school. They allow "scholarships" as long as there is a financial plan in place. Their only academic requirement deals with the passing of a certain amount of classes... not GPA rule. You can play anyone, including home school teams. Those are just few of the laid back rules I can think of... But.. they are very strict in terms of suspensions and such. If a coach is kicked out of a game, it hits them in the pocket. Both the school and the coach is fined. Honestly, I cannot even comprehend why anyone gives a crap who, how, or if a private school is paid when a kid goes there. I don't give a rip if a private school is 100% eating the cost of 100% of their students. So what? My taxes go to pay for kids to attend schools. If I want to pay for 5 kids' tuition at a private school, that's my business. I know people like to talk about how it's not fair and whatever. But to me, it's just a completely retarded argument or concern when public schools are sitting around with their hands in the taxpayers pockets all the time. And I'm not suggesting that you were trying to make that argument. Didn't want you to think I was directing that at you.
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Post by indy on Jun 15, 2016 9:04:45 GMT -6
For sure! The MAIS is pretty laid back in terms of rules. The rule for when a kid turns 19 is a month later than the LHSAA. They allow recruiting as long as the kid is not from a member school. They allow "scholarships" as long as there is a financial plan in place. Their only academic requirement deals with the passing of a certain amount of classes... not GPA rule. You can play anyone, including home school teams. Those are just few of the laid back rules I can think of... But.. they are very strict in terms of suspensions and such. If a coach is kicked out of a game, it hits them in the pocket. Both the school and the coach is fined. Honestly, I cannot even comprehend why anyone gives a crap who, how, or if a private school is paid when a kid goes there. I don't give a rip if a private school is 100% eating the cost of 100% of their students. So what? My taxes go to pay for kids to attend schools. If I want to pay for 5 kids' tuition at a private school, that's my business. I know people like to talk about how it's not fair and whatever. But to me, it's just a completely retarded argument or concern when public schools are sitting around with their hands in the taxpayers pockets all the time. And I'm not suggesting that you were trying to make that argument. Didn't want you to think I was directing that at you. It's called an excuse! Like zones, attain and deny enrollment, etc. it's an eazy way for lazy coaches and weak principals to try and level the playing field and get a trophy.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jun 23, 2016 11:59:09 GMT -6
No. I completely agree. Seems that the Bishops never move with haste in anything they do. They seem always willing to give that one last chance. Legislature, Sponsors, LHSAA leadership were all give another opportunity. The "Hail Mary" was the June 8 meeting. Forming this task force is a big thing. It is a done deal as soon as the task force says that everything that could be done was done. Has anyone heard anything out of this "task force"? It's been pretty quiet here in Cenla on this, just seeing if anyone else has any updates.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 23, 2016 13:52:01 GMT -6
No. I completely agree. Seems that the Bishops never move with haste in anything they do. They seem always willing to give that one last chance. Legislature, Sponsors, LHSAA leadership were all give another opportunity. The "Hail Mary" was the June 8 meeting. Forming this task force is a big thing. It is a done deal as soon as the task force says that everything that could be done was done. Has anyone heard anything out of this "task force"? It's been pretty quiet here in Cenla on this, just seeing if anyone else has any updates. No, it's in the hands of the "Order of Bishops" Unless you are a member of that elite group you really have no idea. The Priest and chancellors of the schools are not even included in the conversation is how I understand it.
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Post by Raven on Jun 23, 2016 15:06:24 GMT -6
Has anyone heard anything out of this "task force"? It's been pretty quiet here in Cenla on this, just seeing if anyone else has any updates. No, it's in the hands of the "Order of Bishops" Unless you are a member of that elite group you really have no idea. The Priest and chancellors of the schools are not even included in the conversation is how I understand it. So roughly 7 people know what's going on. I can't say I'm surprised...
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 23, 2016 15:53:28 GMT -6
For sure! The MAIS is pretty laid back in terms of rules. The rule for when a kid turns 19 is a month later than the LHSAA. They allow recruiting as long as the kid is not from a member school. They allow "scholarships" as long as there is a financial plan in place. Their only academic requirement deals with the passing of a certain amount of classes... not GPA rule. You can play anyone, including home school teams. Those are just few of the laid back rules I can think of... But.. they are very strict in terms of suspensions and such. If a coach is kicked out of a game, it hits them in the pocket. Both the school and the coach is fined. Honestly, I cannot even comprehend why anyone gives a crap who, how, or if a private school is paid when a kid goes there. I don't give a rip if a private school is 100% eating the cost of 100% of their students. So what? My taxes go to pay for kids to attend schools. If I want to pay for 5 kids' tuition at a private school, that's my business. I know people like to talk about how it's not fair and whatever. But to me, it's just a completely retarded argument or concern when public schools are sitting around with their hands in the taxpayers pockets all the time. And I'm not suggesting that you were trying to make that argument. Didn't want you to think I was directing that at you. I wonder how much of this would be averted if private schools opened their books...
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Post by indy on Jun 23, 2016 16:08:39 GMT -6
Honestly, I cannot even comprehend why anyone gives a crap who, how, or if a private school is paid when a kid goes there. I don't give a rip if a private school is 100% eating the cost of 100% of their students. So what? My taxes go to pay for kids to attend schools. If I want to pay for 5 kids' tuition at a private school, that's my business. I know people like to talk about how it's not fair and whatever. But to me, it's just a completely retarded argument or concern when public schools are sitting around with their hands in the taxpayers pockets all the time. And I'm not suggesting that you were trying to make that argument. Didn't want you to think I was directing that at you. I wonder how much of this would be averted if private schools opened their books... They are open. LHSAA spot checks all the time.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jun 23, 2016 16:10:09 GMT -6
No, it's in the hands of the "Order of Bishops" Unless you are a member of that elite group you really have no idea. The Priest and chancellors of the schools are not even included in the conversation is how I understand it. So roughly 7 people know what's going on. I can't say I'm surprised... I doubt it's all the Bishops. More than likely the Bishops of Baton Rouge, Lafayette and Houma/Thibodeaux. Not that Shreveport and Alexandria are unimportant, but they really have only a few schools and these are close enough to NOLA to give a a recommendation to the Arch Bishop. I would not be surprised if was only one Bishop, a Vicar or two and a Deacon. It's not like they need to convene the Council of Trent or Vatican 2.
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