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Post by pinion on Jul 12, 2016 11:15:55 GMT -6
Assuming that the private schools do indeed stay put for the upcoming season...
In regards to football: Will magnet schools finally be segregated into the "select" category, where they belong? Or will it pretty much be as it was last season, where only private schools are segregated? For playoffs and championships, I mean.
I've heard both and cannot find a solid answer. On top of all of the LHSAA's other problems, they have a somewhat obtuse website.
And really, I'm not trying to start any crap, I'm just wondering who is going to be where or is nothing changing.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 12, 2016 11:31:21 GMT -6
Assuming that the private schools do indeed stay put for the upcoming season... In regards to football: Will magnet schools finally be segregated into the "select" category, where they belong? Or will it pretty much be as it was last season, where only private schools are segregated? For playoffs and championships, I mean. I've heard both and cannot find a solid answer. On top of all of the LHSAA's other problems, they have a somewhat obtuse website. And really, I'm not trying to start any crap, I'm just wondering who is going to be where or is nothing changing. Private schools will stay for this year, no doubt. Now that there is the threat of a new association, they will leave Magnets in the general assembly. Don't be surprised if they move to include Charters and Lab schools in the general assembly at the meeting in January. Anything to keep those schools from also leaving the LHSAA. The lie, I mean the excuse will be that non select schools are those funded by public dollars.
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Post by kbanes on Jul 12, 2016 20:36:44 GMT -6
My understanding was that there was no change in rules regarding magnets.
Definition per LHSAA:
A select admission school shall be a public or non-public school that has an admission policy to select the
students who attend the school. Select admission schools shall include:
1. All non-public schools
2. All university laboratory schools
3. All magnet schools
4. Dual-curriculum schools that include at least 25% of their enrollment as select admission students who do not live
in the designated attendance zone
5. Charter schools whose charters include admission requirements for the selection and retention of its students
kbanes
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Post by Rick James on Jul 12, 2016 20:59:31 GMT -6
My understanding was that there was no change in rules regarding magnets. Definition per LHSAA: A select admission school shall be a public or non-public school that has an admission policy to select the students who attend the school. Select admission schools shall include: 1. All non-public schools 2. All university laboratory schools 3. All magnet schools 4. Dual-curriculum schools that include at least 25% of their enrollment as select admission students who do not live in the designated attendance zone 5. Charter schools whose charters include admission requirements for the selection and retention of its students kbanes But the change was in what a schools designated attendance zone is. No longer is it parish wide. Schools like Scotlandville and Byrd will be select since they draw more than 25% of their students from outside their neighborhood attendance zone.
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Post by indy on Jul 12, 2016 21:28:50 GMT -6
My understanding was that there was no change in rules regarding magnets. Definition per LHSAA: A select admission school shall be a public or non-public school that has an admission policy to select the students who attend the school. Select admission schools shall include: 1. All non-public schools 2. All university laboratory schools 3. All magnet schools 4. Dual-curriculum schools that include at least 25% of their enrollment as select admission students who do not live in the designated attendance zone 5. Charter schools whose charters include admission requirements for the selection and retention of its students kbanes But the change was in what a schools designated attendance zone is. No longer is it parish wide. Schools like Scotlandville and Byrd will be select since they draw more than 25% of their students from outside their neighborhood attendance zone. So privates that don't are non select?
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Post by kbanes on Jul 12, 2016 21:54:32 GMT -6
Per the LHSAA:
The civil parish boundary line shall serve as the athletic attendance zone for all member schools located in that parish. It is the
obligation of the member school to know the residence status of each student-athlete and to require compliance with these
requirements. A parish with multiple high schools may establish attendance zones within that parish/attendance zone.
For East Baton Rouge, there are designated attendance zones. Since these are the same rules in place last season (I think), I'm pretty sure that Scotlandville, with a defined zone, will stay in the Non-Select class for 2016.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 13, 2016 8:33:22 GMT -6
My understanding was that there was no change in rules regarding magnets. Definition per LHSAA: A select admission school shall be a public or non-public school that has an admission policy to select the students who attend the school. Select admission schools shall include: 1. All non-public schools 2. All university laboratory schools 3. All magnet schools 4. Dual-curriculum schools that include at least 25% of their enrollment as select admission students who do not live in the designated attendance zone 5. Charter schools whose charters include admission requirements for the selection and retention of its students kbanes But the change was in what a schools designated attendance zone is. No longer is it parish wide. Schools like Scotlandville and Byrd will be select since they draw more than 25% of their students from outside their neighborhood attendance zone. Byrd was #4 in the 5A playoffs, Scotlandville was #5. Both are still listed as Non Select on the LHSAA website and you can bet they will both remain non select. That double standard thingy. Also, EVERY public high school in Orleans Parish is now a Charter school and EVERY one of them played as Non Select last year and the year before. So this list of rules is more of a list of suggestions than it is actual rules. For some ex-public schools that are now Charter.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 13, 2016 12:30:27 GMT -6
But the change was in what a schools designated attendance zone is. No longer is it parish wide. Schools like Scotlandville and Byrd will be select since they draw more than 25% of their students from outside their neighborhood attendance zone. Byrd was #4 in the 5A playoffs, Scotlandville was #5. Both are still listed as Non Select on the LHSAA website and you can bet they will both remain non select. That double standard thingy. Also, EVERY public high school in Orleans Parish is now a Charter school and EVERY one of them played as Non Select last year and the year before. So this list of rules is more of a list of suggestions than it is actual rules. For some ex-public schools that are now Charter. not every NOLA public school played nonselect last year... Lusher and Ben Franklin were select. Basically you have to use OneApp and can't have any admission requirements or influence over the kids you get
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Post by indy on Jul 13, 2016 15:39:07 GMT -6
You can add Hains academy to that list also
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Post by Rick James on Jul 13, 2016 18:23:52 GMT -6
But the change was in what a schools designated attendance zone is. No longer is it parish wide. Schools like Scotlandville and Byrd will be select since they draw more than 25% of their students from outside their neighborhood attendance zone. Byrd was #4 in the 5A playoffs, Scotlandville was #5. Both are still listed as Non Select on the LHSAA website and you can bet they will both remain non select. That double standard thingy. Also, EVERY public high school in Orleans Parish is now a Charter school and EVERY one of them played as Non Select last year and the year before. So this list of rules is more of a list of suggestions than it is actual rules. For some ex-public schools that are now Charter. Byrd will be select. The LHSAA hasn't even updated its rule book for this year, much less changed schools to the correct playoff brackets.
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Post by pinion on Jul 14, 2016 11:08:15 GMT -6
But the change was in what a schools designated attendance zone is. No longer is it parish wide. Schools like Scotlandville and Byrd will be select since they draw more than 25% of their students from outside their neighborhood attendance zone. Byrd was #4 in the 5A playoffs, Scotlandville was #5. Both are still listed as Non Select on the LHSAA website and you can bet they will both remain non select. That double standard thingy. Also, EVERY public high school in Orleans Parish is now a Charter school and EVERY one of them played as Non Select last year and the year before. So this list of rules is more of a list of suggestions than it is actual rules. For some ex-public schools that are now Charter. Byrd voted against the split. I think they have any time it's come up. They don't want the split and see the potential damage it will cause.
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Post by kbanes on Jul 14, 2016 11:51:35 GMT -6
And yet Byrd chose to abstain on "Elite Program" proposal.
I asked this question a couple of days ago, and I haven't seen a reply. (If I did get a reply and missed, I'm sorry for reasking.)
What was it about the "Elite Program" proposal that caused it to fail? It sounded like it had most of the "Indiana Plan" in it that most see as the only solution, yet it failed 160-110. Whats the hang-up?
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Jul 14, 2016 11:57:58 GMT -6
And yet Byrd chose to abstain on "Elite Program" proposal. I asked this question a couple of days ago, and I haven't seen a reply. (If I did get a reply and missed, I'm sorry for reasking.) What was it about the "Elite Program" proposal that caused it to fail? It sounded like it had most of the "Indiana Plan" in it that most see as the only solution, yet it failed 160-110. Whats the hang-up? I don't know everything about the "Elite Program" proposal but I would have to guess that it gave to much power to an individual like Mr. Bonine. The "Indiana Plan" is pretty well spelled out with specific numbers to cause a team to move up in classification, kinda takes the human bias out, whether it's there or not.
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Post by kbanes on Jul 14, 2016 19:56:58 GMT -6
OK, thanks.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 15, 2016 1:49:44 GMT -6
And yet Byrd chose to abstain on "Elite Program" proposal. I asked this question a couple of days ago, and I haven't seen a reply. (If I did get a reply and missed, I'm sorry for reasking.) What was it about the "Elite Program" proposal that caused it to fail? It sounded like it had most of the "Indiana Plan" in it that most see as the only solution, yet it failed 160-110. Whats the hang-up? I don't know everything about the "Elite Program" proposal but I would have to guess that it gave to much power to an individual like Mr. Bonine. The "Indiana Plan" is pretty well spelled out with specific numbers to cause a team to move up in classification, kinda takes the human bias out, whether it's there or not. that's a shame because a strong leader of the LHSAA with vision and not afraid to step on toes is needed to get us out of this mess
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Post by indy on Jul 15, 2016 5:31:16 GMT -6
I don't know everything about the "Elite Program" proposal but I would have to guess that it gave to much power to an individual like Mr. Bonine. The "Indiana Plan" is pretty well spelled out with specific numbers to cause a team to move up in classification, kinda takes the human bias out, whether it's there or not. that's a shame because a strong leader of the LHSAA with vision and not afraid to step on toes is needed to get us out of this mess As long as we have a bloc of self dealing principals we will get what they want. Your next executive director will be one of them, probably Booker T or Jane Rodham Clinton. Good luck!
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 15, 2016 7:49:20 GMT -6
I don't know everything about the "Elite Program" proposal but I would have to guess that it gave to much power to an individual like Mr. Bonine. The "Indiana Plan" is pretty well spelled out with specific numbers to cause a team to move up in classification, kinda takes the human bias out, whether it's there or not. that's a shame because a strong leader of the LHSAA with vision and not afraid to step on toes is needed to get us out of this mess But that is not what the public school principals want. They hired a proven strong leader with vision and look at what they are doing to him on this board. They want a sycophant puppet of a leader. Someone with no morals or ethics willing to do what ever the democratic majority demands. Damn the rules, bylaws or due process. The LHSAA has gone the way of Venezuela and once one of these anti private school leaders from N. LA get full control it will become even more detestable.
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