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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 11:43:49 GMT -6
What has changed to make them, and the 1A Charters non-select?
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Post by indy on Oct 6, 2016 11:48:34 GMT -6
What has changed to make them, and the 1A Charters non-select? Maybe they never should have been select in the first place? What made Byrd bounce back and fourth?
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Post by Raven on Oct 6, 2016 11:51:47 GMT -6
That is a good question. All I can think of is that they must share an attendance zone with a regular public school like Capitol or Glen Oaks or Belaire. I can't think of any other schools in that area. Maybe Istrouma, but they haven't re-opened yet.
If they are getting less than 25% of their enrollment from outside of whatever zone they are in then I guess that would move them into the non-select bracket.
I just don't have much info about the school or how they get their students other than they are a charter school.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Oct 6, 2016 11:56:22 GMT -6
Not sure, but I wonder if the LHSAA is trying to make as many schools non-select thinking the select schools are forming the other association. Trying to take numbers from them before it gets started and have them rethink the situation.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 12:24:16 GMT -6
That is a good question. All I can think of is that they must share an attendance zone with a regular public school like Capitol or Glen Oaks or Belaire. I can't think of any other schools in that area. Maybe Istrouma, but they haven't re-opened yet. If they are getting less than 25% of their enrollment from outside of whatever zone they are in then I guess that would move them into the non-select bracket. I just don't have much info about the school or how they get their students other than they are a charter school. The 25% rule doesn't apply to Charters. If the Charter doesn't accept all students, or allows them to get rid of students, then they must be select. So a change to the charter of the school is the only way I can figure. As for Byrd, they are bouncing back and forth due to rule changes. When the original split took place they were select due to 25% of their students coming from outside the Byrd zone. Then the rule was changed to parish wide attendance zones...so ALL of their students were "in zone". So they moved back to non-select Now they did away with parish wide zones, so Byrd is back to having more than 25% outside the zone. So they are select. The Byrd stuff is all due to voted on rule changes, Scotlandville is in the same boat.
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Post by btown on Oct 6, 2016 13:01:20 GMT -6
Not sure, but I wonder if the LHSAA is trying to make as many schools non-select thinking the select schools are forming the other association. Trying to take numbers from them before it gets started and have them rethink the situation. LHSAA cannot just make a school select or non select. I know schools had to turn in their out of zones numbers this week. I seems that it relates to that zone numbers.
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Post by indy on Oct 6, 2016 13:04:36 GMT -6
Not sure, but I wonder if the LHSAA is trying to make as many schools non-select thinking the select schools are forming the other association. Trying to take numbers from them before it gets started and have them rethink the situation. LHSAA cannot just make a school select or non select. I know schools had to turn in their out of zones numbers this week. I seems that it relates to that zone numbers. The LHSAA can and does anything they want, right or wrong. They have a track record to prove it. Geez!
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Post by btown on Oct 6, 2016 13:13:58 GMT -6
LHSAA cannot just make a school select or non select. I know schools had to turn in their out of zones numbers this week. I seems that it relates to that zone numbers. The LHSAA can and does anything they want, right or wrong. They have a track record to prove it. Geez! Maybe their interpretation of a rule is different than your or my opinion, but they cannot just put a school in select or non select just because.
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Post by Raven on Oct 6, 2016 14:55:40 GMT -6
The LHSAA can and does anything they want, right or wrong. They have a track record to prove it. Geez! Maybe their interpretation of a rule is different than your or my opinion, but they cannot just put a school in select or non select just because. I tend to agree. I think everyone expected Madison Prep to remain in the select brackets and when they didn't, and almost all the other charter schools (except 2) also got put into the non-select brackets, it raises a few questions, especially when it doesn't seem clear precisely what the criteria is for how they are determining which bracket to place these schools in. Some public supporters have denounced it as an obvious way to "get back at Booker" for his leadership of the split movement. Some private school supporters (myself included) tend to see it as a way to further erode the bargaining strength of the select schools. I don't know that either point of view is correct, but it is sowing more distrust of the LHSAA on both sides. Much of that could be alleviated by a little more transparency by the organization on decisions like this. Or if not a decision, the rules behind how select and non-select are determined.
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Post by 64 on Oct 7, 2016 8:56:53 GMT -6
What has changed to make them, and the 1A Charters non-select? Maybe they never should have been select in the first place? What made Byrd bounce back and fourth? I hate to break this to you but Charter schools are the pure definition of 'select.' My son goes to a Charter school (and he was SELECTED/ALLOWED to go there) and there is NO WAY they should be non-select. He doesn't even live in the same parish. He could not go to the other public school in the same town but he can go to the Charter school. At anytime they could get rid of him for discipline problems or grades or several other things. It's in the school handbook. It's posted online. That is A BIG DIFFERENCE than going to the public school that my daughter goes to where they HAVE TO TAKE HER because she live in their zone and CANNOT get rid of her if she was a problem student. I have kids on both sides of this but I assure you because I deal with it daily, SELECT and NON-SELECT are not on a level playing when it comes to that. Should there be a playoff split because of it??? I'll let the experts keep arguing that....LOL.
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Post by indy on Oct 7, 2016 9:03:33 GMT -6
Maybe they never should have been select in the first place? What made Byrd bounce back and fourth? I hate to break this to you but Charter schools are the pure definition of 'select.' My son goes to a Charter school (and he was SELECTED/ALLOWED to go there) and there is NO WAY they should be non-select. He doesn't even live in the same parish. He could not go to the other public school in the same town but he can go to the Charter school. At anytime they could get rid of him for discipline problems or grades or several other things. It's in the school handbook. It's posted online. That is A BIG DIFFERENCE than going to the public school that my daughter goes to where they HAVE TO TAKE HER because she live in their zone and CANNOT get rid of her if she was a problem student. I have kids on both sides of this but I assure you because I deal with it daily, SELECT and NON-SELECT are not on a level playing when it comes to that. Should there be a playoff split because of it??? I'll let the experts keep arguing that....LOL. I am sure you are spot on correct in the case of your sons school. But I would think no two are the same. They are chartered for different reasons.
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Post by 64 on Oct 7, 2016 9:38:57 GMT -6
I hate to break this to you but Charter schools are the pure definition of 'select.' My son goes to a Charter school (and he was SELECTED/ALLOWED to go there) and there is NO WAY they should be non-select. He doesn't even live in the same parish. He could not go to the other public school in the same town but he can go to the Charter school. At anytime they could get rid of him for discipline problems or grades or several other things. It's in the school handbook. It's posted online. That is A BIG DIFFERENCE than going to the public school that my daughter goes to where they HAVE TO TAKE HER because she live in their zone and CANNOT get rid of her if she was a problem student. I have kids on both sides of this but I assure you because I deal with it daily, SELECT and NON-SELECT are not on a level playing when it comes to that. Should there be a playoff split because of it??? I'll let the experts keep arguing that....LOL. I am sure you are spot on correct in the case of your sons school. But I would think no two are the same. They are chartered for different reasons. you are correct. different places, different situations. i can speak only about D'arbonne Woods Charter where he goes, and Delhi Charter where I have talked to other coaches that worked there, that i consider friends and trust.
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Post by iknownuthing on Oct 7, 2016 10:01:06 GMT -6
Not sure, but I wonder if the LHSAA is trying to make as many schools non-select thinking the select schools are forming the other association. Trying to take numbers from them before it gets started and have them rethink the situation. This is a good possibility, since rules within the LHSAA are more of a suggestion than they are rules. Kind of like a stop sign in a private parking lot.
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Post by indy on Oct 9, 2016 7:13:35 GMT -6
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