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Post by sargon on Dec 9, 2023 15:32:17 GMT -6
So, I’m watching STM vs LCA, two exceptional teams who I’ve seen play many times. Question, when do these teams and a few others, stop getting a free pass from posters on this board and the Bodinites? I mean for years I sit and listen to people whine about Evangel, Curtis, Karr and more lately Neville, Warren Easton and Westgate, about how they should be forced to play up against the big boys. The LSHAA went so far as to assign some arbitrary number of 1033 to make some random uneven division, to scoop Neville and Westgate out of the classification they were playing in.
Seems like there would be some public outcry for STM and others to move up and play in the district with Acadiana, Carencro, Etc?? Instead, if I heard right LCA is going Down??? Really?? I don’t want to hear the numbers argument. Everyone on this board has already said that there isn’t a difference between 1000 and 2400. So, that’s off limits. Just curious?
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Post by highschoolsportsfan on Dec 9, 2023 16:24:58 GMT -6
Stm should be moving to Div 1 next year.
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Post by mt on Dec 9, 2023 17:19:17 GMT -6
Cause we saw STM before the split and they were irrelevant. They’ve improved but we know who they are. I can’t speak on LCA.
But im interested to see them post Jajuan.
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Post by highschoolsportsfan on Dec 9, 2023 18:12:25 GMT -6
Cause we saw STM before the split and they were irrelevant. They’ve improved but we know who they are. I can’t speak on LCA. But im interested to see them post Jajuan. Why you think they moving down? Not gonna be the same LCA
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Post by legionair on Dec 9, 2023 19:07:09 GMT -6
Cause we saw STM before the split and they were irrelevant. They’ve improved but we know who they are. I can’t speak on LCA. But im interested to see them post Jajuan. Why you think they moving down? Not gonna be the same LCA LCA will still have talent however , it won’t be what we’ve seen they past 4 year.
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Post by CoachA on Dec 9, 2023 19:12:04 GMT -6
Cause we saw STM before the split and they were irrelevant. They’ve improved but we know who they are. I can’t speak on LCA. But im interested to see them post Jajuan. Why you think they moving down? Not gonna be the same LCA Do you read the board at all? Many LCA posters have said it’s because while football and girls bball can compete in 4A, all other sports cannot. So for the growth of their program their playing in their actual class
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Post by fisherman1 on Dec 9, 2023 19:18:30 GMT -6
Also talked to Lafayette Christian asst coach from Baton Rouge and he said they are downgrading there schedule and not playing any 5a schools.They must believe they will be down .
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Post by highschoolsportsfan on Dec 9, 2023 19:56:24 GMT -6
Why you think they moving down? Not gonna be the same LCA Do you read the board at all? Many LCA posters have said it’s because while football and girls bball can compete in 4A, all other sports cannot. So for the growth of their program their playing in their actual class Ok believe what you want. They losing heavy.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 9, 2023 21:40:54 GMT -6
Do you read the board at all? Many LCA posters have said it’s because while football and girls bball can compete in 4A, all other sports cannot. So for the growth of their program their playing in their actual class Ok believe what you want. They losing heavy. Losing most of the defense. Nearly the entire offense will be back, other than Johnson at QB which will obviously be a big loss. It’s a good move for the other sports, and while I think football would still be competitive in 4A/SD2, they will probably belong back where they….belong. And it will be tough there as well. Calvary will be strong again as will U-High. And teams like Dunham, etc are trending up as well
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Post by indy on Dec 9, 2023 21:59:06 GMT -6
Ok believe what you want. They losing heavy. Losing most of the defense. Nearly the entire offense will be back, other than Johnson at QB which will obviously be a big loss. It’s a good move for the other sports, and while I think football would still be competitive in 4A/SD2, they will probably belong back where they….belong. And it will be tough there as well. Calvary will be strong again as will U-High. And teams like Dunham, etc are trending up as well ND will be in the mix too
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 9, 2023 22:08:04 GMT -6
Losing most of the defense. Nearly the entire offense will be back, other than Johnson at QB which will obviously be a big loss. It’s a good move for the other sports, and while I think football would still be competitive in 4A/SD2, they will probably belong back where they….belong. And it will be tough there as well. Calvary will be strong again as will U-High. And teams like Dunham, etc are trending up as well ND will be in the mix too For sure.
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Post by tigerfan7997 on Dec 10, 2023 8:20:28 GMT -6
So, I’m watching STM vs LCA, two exceptional teams who I’ve seen play many times. Question, when do these teams and a few others, stop getting a free pass from posters on this board and the Bodinites? I mean for years I sit and listen to people whine about Evangel, Curtis, Karr and more lately Neville, Warren Easton and Westgate, about how they should be forced to play up against the big boys. The LSHAA went so far as to assign some arbitrary number of 1033 to make some random uneven division, to scoop Neville and Westgate out of the classification they were playing in. Seems like there would be some public outcry for STM and others to move up and play in the district with Acadiana, Carencro, Etc?? Instead, if I heard right LCA is going Down??? Really?? I don’t want to hear the numbers argument. Everyone on this board has already said that there isn’t a difference between 1000 and 2400. So, that’s off limits. Just curious? Lmao How WINEY and PATHETIC Neville has become. You get beat early, and then come on here and CRY!. This is awesome. Neville gets forced to play up 2 years after dominating for what 20...LMAO. Does Neville need a safe space, or maybe just get a dog.. The Fall from grace is hard... Hope you have plenty of Kleenex! No One SOUTH OF I-10 wanted Curtis Or Evangel back in 1a and 2a. That was WM, Neville, and others NORTH OF I10... You do not get to rewrite HISTORY on how this all started in the 1st place. CRYING schools from up NORTH wanting to AVOID Evangel and Curtis...
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Post by tigerfandq on Dec 10, 2023 9:17:34 GMT -6
So, I’m watching STM vs LCA, two exceptional teams who I’ve seen play many times. Question, when do these teams and a few others, stop getting a free pass from posters on this board and the Bodinites? I mean for years I sit and listen to people whine about Evangel, Curtis, Karr and more lately Neville, Warren Easton and Westgate, about how they should be forced to play up against the big boys. The LSHAA went so far as to assign some arbitrary number of 1033 to make some random uneven division, to scoop Neville and Westgate out of the classification they were playing in. Seems like there would be some public outcry for STM and others to move up and play in the district with Acadiana, Carencro, Etc?? Instead, if I heard right LCA is going Down??? Really?? I don’t want to hear the numbers argument. Everyone on this board has already said that there isn’t a difference between 1000 and 2400. So, that’s off limits. Just curious? Lmao How WINEY and PATHETIC Neville has become. You get beat early, and then come on here and CRY!. This is awesome. Neville gets forced to play up 2 years after dominating for what 20...LMAO. Does Neville need a safe space, or maybe just get a dog.. The Fall from grace is hard... Hope you have plenty of Kleenex! No One SOUTH OF I-10 wanted Curtis Or Evangel back in 1a and 2a. That was WM, Neville, and others NORTH OF I10... You do not get to rewrite HISTORY on how this all started in the 1st place. CRYING schools from up NORTH wanting to AVOID Evangel and Curtis...
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Post by tigerfandq on Dec 10, 2023 9:21:35 GMT -6
Lmao How WINEY and PATHETIC Neville has become. You get beat early, and then come on here and CRY!. This is awesome. Neville gets forced to play up 2 years after dominating for what 20...LMAO. Does Neville need a safe space, or maybe just get a dog.. The Fall from grace is hard... Hope you have plenty of Kleenex! No One SOUTH OF I-10 wanted Curtis Or Evangel back in 1a and 2a. That was WM, Neville, and others NORTH OF I10... You do not get to rewrite HISTORY on how this all started in the 1st place. CRYING schools from up NORTH wanting to AVOID Evangel and Curtis... LCA is moving down! But let’s be clear they moved up from 2A to 4A in 2021 after winning 4 straight championships in 2A. (2017,2018,2019,2020). Their enrollment numbers are 2A. Don’t get it twisted LCA chose to move up to 4A. Don’t hate because they are going back where they belong. SMDH
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Post by tigerfan7997 on Dec 10, 2023 9:37:38 GMT -6
LCA is moving down! But let’s be clear they moved up from 2A to 4A in 2021 after winning 4 straight championships in 2A. (2017,2018,2019,2020). Their enrollment numbers are 2A. Don’t get it twisted LCA chose to move up to 4A. Don’t hate because they are going back where they belong. SMDH LCA Moving down is suspect, but the parents that do pay for there kids to play; there kids play all the other sports want to go to where they belong. LCA will still be an elite team, but not one of the best teams in the state anymore. The makeup of the school is going back to more traditional elite, not I want to win 4a football elite.
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Post by sargon on Dec 10, 2023 9:57:48 GMT -6
Tigger, this ain’t about Neville. Neville and Westgate has already been targeted and dealt with, much like Curtis and Evangel in times past.
This is about those schools who seem to be getting a pass for some reason. STM, LCA, And a few others dominate for years, yet no call for them to play up. What’s up with that???
Remember when the LSHAA made some schools play down, then up, then select, Now who knows what? All just to control their competitive edge! Then these arbitrary numbers and Divisions mid season to control the narrative again?
Just saying, seems like we should be putting a few other schools under the microscope right???
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 10, 2023 10:37:12 GMT -6
Tigger, this ain’t about Neville. Neville and Westgate has already been targeted and dealt with, much like Curtis and Evangel in times past. This is about those schools who seem to be getting a pass for some reason. STM, LCA, And a few others dominate for years, yet no call for them to play up. What’s up with that??? Remember when the LSHAA made some schools play down, then up, then select, Now who knows what? All just to control their competitive edge! Then these arbitrary numbers and Divisions mid season to control the narrative again? Just saying, seems like we should be putting a few other schools under the microscope right??? LCA has had a relevant football program for 7 years. And they’ve spent 2 of those 7 years playing up 2 classifications. I’m not sure they belong in your little rant here.
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 10:40:32 GMT -6
Tigger, this ain’t about Neville. Neville and Westgate has already been targeted and dealt with, much like Curtis and Evangel in times past. This is about those schools who seem to be getting a pass for some reason. STM, LCA, And a few others dominate for years, yet no call for them to play up. What’s up with that??? Remember when the LSHAA made some schools play down, then up, then select, Now who knows what? All just to control their competitive edge! Then these arbitrary numbers and Divisions mid season to control the narrative again? Just saying, seems like we should be putting a few other schools under the microscope right??? You really don't pay attention to anything do you? LCA has about 290 students in highschool. We are a 2A school. We CHOSE to play up the last 2 seasons to 4A. And before that, chose to play up into 2A when we still had 1A enrollment. I can't speak for STM but don't get it twisted, the 1000+ kids STM has is much more significant than the 290 we have at LCA. Like we have been saying since the news came out, LCA is moving down because the sports outside of Football and Girls Bball voted to move down and it's a program decision and not a Football decision. Idk what the other poster was talking about not scheduling 5A schools because we will still try to be scheduling 5A and 4A schools as always. The issue comes with will they schedule us?
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Post by legionair on Dec 10, 2023 13:32:34 GMT -6
Tigger, this ain’t about Neville. Neville and Westgate has already been targeted and dealt with, much like Curtis and Evangel in times past. This is about those schools who seem to be getting a pass for some reason. STM, LCA, And a few others dominate for years, yet no call for them to play up. What’s up with that??? Remember when the LSHAA made some schools play down, then up, then select, Now who knows what? All just to control their competitive edge! Then these arbitrary numbers and Divisions mid season to control the narrative again? Just saying, seems like we should be putting a few other schools under the microscope right??? You really don't pay attention to anything do you? LCA has about 290 students in highschool. We are a 2A school. We CHOSE to play up the last 2 seasons to 4A. And before that, chose to play up into 2A when we still had 1A enrollment. I can't speak for STM but don't get it twisted, the 1000+ kids STM has is much more significant than the 290 we have at LCA. Like we have been saying since the news came out, LCA is moving down because the sports outside of Football and Girls Bball voted to move down and it's a program decision and not a Football decision. Idk what the other poster was talking about not scheduling 5A schools because we will still try to be scheduling 5A and 4A schools as always. The issue comes with will they schedule us? So basically your losing talent in the other sports, therefore your moving back down ?
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 10, 2023 13:44:00 GMT -6
What would be insane is if the LHSAA force every school to play in their rightful classification, based on their enrollment. Imagine Curtis in Class 3A.
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 13:44:17 GMT -6
You really don't pay attention to anything do you? LCA has about 290 students in highschool. We are a 2A school. We CHOSE to play up the last 2 seasons to 4A. And before that, chose to play up into 2A when we still had 1A enrollment. I can't speak for STM but don't get it twisted, the 1000+ kids STM has is much more significant than the 290 we have at LCA. Like we have been saying since the news came out, LCA is moving down because the sports outside of Football and Girls Bball voted to move down and it's a program decision and not a Football decision. Idk what the other poster was talking about not scheduling 5A schools because we will still try to be scheduling 5A and 4A schools as always. The issue comes with will they schedule us? So basically your losing talent in the other sports, therefore your moving back down ? You are coming to that conclusion all by yourself, all the other sports agreed to move up thinking and hoping they could compete in 4A as well with football and girls bball. Ended up finding out they couldn't so they voted to move back down. Its really simple and nothing overt or suspect is happening. It's the decision the program made. AND another big thing that seems like most people don't think about is that depth for most of our sports is a big issue. When our starters go down, we don't have juniors or even seniors like the other 4A schools do to come in and back them up. We have freshman and sopres coming in. Week in and week out toll for those sports who voted to move down is part of the reason also beyond just not competing at a meaningful level.
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Post by cajuncanon on Dec 10, 2023 14:01:37 GMT -6
So, I’m watching STM vs LCA, two exceptional teams who I’ve seen play many times. Question, when do these teams and a few others, stop getting a free pass from posters on this board and the Bodinites? I mean for years I sit and listen to people whine about Evangel, Curtis, Karr and more lately Neville, Warren Easton and Westgate, about how they should be forced to play up against the big boys. The LSHAA went so far as to assign some arbitrary number of 1033 to make some random uneven division, to scoop Neville and Westgate out of the classification they were playing in. Seems like there would be some public outcry for STM and others to move up and play in the district with Acadiana, Carencro, Etc?? Instead, if I heard right LCA is going Down??? Really?? I don’t want to hear the numbers argument. Everyone on this board has already said that there isn’t a difference between 1000 and 2400. So, that’s off limits. Just curious? So you want STM to play in an arguably weaker District? Lets look who STM played this year. Acadiana(Jamboree), ASH, Brother Martin, Teurlings, LCA(X2), Catholic BR, Westgate. Acadiana, ASH, Brotther Martin, Catholic BR were all out of district play. Who exactly do you want them to play?
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 10, 2023 14:14:03 GMT -6
This one is making a run at being the dumbest thread of the year.
I guess there’s still a couple weeks to go so who knows what’s next, but this one has a few posts (and the original take) that are way up the ladder on stupidity.
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 10, 2023 16:36:25 GMT -6
So, there are no provisions in the LHSAA bylaws to play up just in football? I know multiple arguments can be made for or against this, but given that Football is the sport that caused the split and the rest of this nonsense, do you think that the LHSAA should allow an opportunity for any school to play up in Football but remain in their rightful class for the other sports?
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 10, 2023 22:59:36 GMT -6
So, I’m watching STM vs LCA, two exceptional teams who I’ve seen play many times. Question, when do these teams and a few others, stop getting a free pass from posters on this board and the Bodinites? I mean for years I sit and listen to people whine about Evangel, Curtis, Karr and more lately Neville, Warren Easton and Westgate, about how they should be forced to play up against the big boys. The LSHAA went so far as to assign some arbitrary number of 1033 to make some random uneven division, to scoop Neville and Westgate out of the classification they were playing in. Seems like there would be some public outcry for STM and others to move up and play in the district with Acadiana, Carencro, Etc?? Instead, if I heard right LCA is going Down??? Really?? I don’t want to hear the numbers argument. Everyone on this board has already said that there isn’t a difference between 1000 and 2400. So, that’s off limits. Just curious? If it makes you feel better, Neville would have gotten ROASTED by STM in a combined 4A bracket. They also would have gotten curb stomped by 320 enrollment LCA in a combined 4A bracket. Without the split, same against Opelousas and Cecilia, and if it was late in the bracket where Westgate’s QB was healthy, Neville would have gotten spanked by them too. But nice post anyway.
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Post by bhossmac on Dec 11, 2023 9:52:33 GMT -6
So, I’m watching STM vs LCA, two exceptional teams who I’ve seen play many times. Question, when do these teams and a few others, stop getting a free pass from posters on this board and the Bodinites? I mean for years I sit and listen to people whine about Evangel, Curtis, Karr and more lately Neville, Warren Easton and Westgate, about how they should be forced to play up against the big boys. The LSHAA went so far as to assign some arbitrary number of 1033 to make some random uneven division, to scoop Neville and Westgate out of the classification they were playing in. Seems like there would be some public outcry for STM and others to move up and play in the district with Acadiana, Carencro, Etc?? Instead, if I heard right LCA is going Down??? Really?? I don’t want to hear the numbers argument. Everyone on this board has already said that there isn’t a difference between 1000 and 2400. So, that’s off limits. Just curious? If it makes you feel better, Neville would have gotten ROASTED by STM in a combined 4A bracket. They also would have gotten curb stomped by 320 enrollment LCA in a combined 4A bracket. Without the split, same against Opelousas and Cecilia, and if it was late in the bracket where Westgate’s QB was healthy, Neville would have gotten spanked by them too. But nice post anyway. Curb stomped is a little excessive. Neville led Ruston 10-0 going into the fourth quarter, the same Ruston team that defeated LCA. Neville had a very good defense and would have given LCA fits. That would have been a very good matchup this year.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 11, 2023 10:08:10 GMT -6
If it makes you feel better, Neville would have gotten ROASTED by STM in a combined 4A bracket. They also would have gotten curb stomped by 320 enrollment LCA in a combined 4A bracket. Without the split, same against Opelousas and Cecilia, and if it was late in the bracket where Westgate’s QB was healthy, Neville would have gotten spanked by them too. But nice post anyway. Curb stomped is a little excessive. Neville led Ruston 10-0 going into the fourth quarter, the same Ruston team that defeated LCA. Neville had a very good defense and would have given LCA fits. That would have been a very good matchup this year. We can agree to disagree. LCA racked up over 450 yards in that game against Ruston. And Ruston drove the ball for a TD once, helped by a crazy penalty sequence that changed them from punting from their own end zone to an 8:00 TD drive…with 2 of LCA’s defensive linemen not on the field. #45 got hurt at the end of the first half and 55 ejected on the aforementioned penalty issue. Even with multiple backup DL men on the field the entire 2nd half, Ruston ran for just 170 yards on 50 carries. And were 3/8 passing for 40 yards and a INT. No disrespect at all to Ruston. They were a great team and they won the game. But I wouldn’t use that loss from LCA to measure what they would do against anyone else. Even in their worst games, LCA’s offense put up huge numbers. I watched Evangel throw the ball all over Neville’s defense. Evangel was nowhere close to LCA offensively.
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Post by bhossmac on Dec 11, 2023 11:01:42 GMT -6
Curb stomped is a little excessive. Neville led Ruston 10-0 going into the fourth quarter, the same Ruston team that defeated LCA. Neville had a very good defense and would have given LCA fits. That would have been a very good matchup this year. We can agree to disagree. LCA racked up over 450 yards in that game against Ruston. And Ruston drove the ball for a TD once, helped by a crazy penalty sequence that changed them from punting from their own end zone to an 8:00 TD drive…with 2 of LCA’s defensive linemen not on the field. #45 got hurt at the end of the first half and 55 ejected on the aforementioned penalty issue. Even with multiple backup DL men on the field the entire 2nd half, Ruston ran for just 170 yards on 50 carries. And were 3/8 passing for 40 yards and a INT. No disrespect at all to Ruston. They were a great team and they won the game. But I wouldn’t use that loss from LCA to measure what they would do against anyone else. Even in their worst games, LCA’s offense put up huge numbers. I watched Evangel throw the ball all over Neville’s defense. Evangel was nowhere close to LCA offensively. I will say this without hesitation: Ruston's offense at the end of the season was nowhere near where it was against LCA. The growth that Josh Brantley showed, both as a runner and as a passer, was certainly evident on Saturday. He's not Ju'Juan Johnson (who is, right?), but he certainly has some similar skills, though his ability to hurt teams in the run game is much more scripted than Ju'Juan, who does most of his damage while scrambling. Yes, Ju'Juan put up numbers. He also was careless with the football. He threw five interceptions, a couple of which were just awful decisions that I hope he wouldn't do again. A couple of them happened because of Ruston's relentless pressure on him. Ruston rushed just three most of the night, sometimes four, and got continuous pressure on Ju'Juan. LCA's OL was dominated in that game. Neville's DL would give LCA's OL similar problems. And you're judging Neville based off a Week 1 game that was its worst defensive performance of the season. I think you're underrating Neville because they lost early in the playoffs (to a very good team) and because of the tone set in the first post of this thread. I think LCA beats Neville, but you used the word curb stomp, and nobody came close to curb stomping Neville this season. (The two losses were by a combined five points.)
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 11, 2023 11:42:31 GMT -6
We can agree to disagree. LCA racked up over 450 yards in that game against Ruston. And Ruston drove the ball for a TD once, helped by a crazy penalty sequence that changed them from punting from their own end zone to an 8:00 TD drive…with 2 of LCA’s defensive linemen not on the field. #45 got hurt at the end of the first half and 55 ejected on the aforementioned penalty issue. Even with multiple backup DL men on the field the entire 2nd half, Ruston ran for just 170 yards on 50 carries. And were 3/8 passing for 40 yards and a INT. No disrespect at all to Ruston. They were a great team and they won the game. But I wouldn’t use that loss from LCA to measure what they would do against anyone else. Even in their worst games, LCA’s offense put up huge numbers. I watched Evangel throw the ball all over Neville’s defense. Evangel was nowhere close to LCA offensively. I will say this without hesitation: Ruston's offense at the end of the season was nowhere near where it was against LCA. The growth that Josh Brantley showed, both as a runner and as a passer, was certainly evident on Saturday. He's not Ju'Juan Johnson (who is, right?), but he certainly has some similar skills, though his ability to hurt teams in the run game is much more scripted than Ju'Juan, who does most of his damage while scrambling. Yes, Ju'Juan put up numbers. He also was careless with the football. He threw five interceptions, a couple of which were just awful decisions that I hope he wouldn't do again. A couple of them happened because of Ruston's relentless pressure on him. Ruston rushed just three most of the night, sometimes four, and got continuous pressure on Ju'Juan. LCA's OL was dominated in that game. Neville's DL would give LCA's OL similar problems. And you're judging Neville based off a Week 1 game that was its worst defensive performance of the season. I think you're underrating Neville because they lost early in the playoffs (to a very good team) and because of the tone set in the first post of this thread. I think LCA beats Neville, but you used the word curb stomp, and nobody came close to curb stomping Neville this season. (The two losses were by a combined five points.) Some fair points there. But I stand by what I said. I think LCA wins that matchup by 20+. Ju’Juan threw 5 picks that game. Some due to Rustons defense, a couple just bad decision/throw. And he threw more than 1/3 of his picks for the season in that game. It wasn’t the norm. No offense consistently moved the ball against LCA’s starters on defense this season outside of STM…and Acadiana in the first half of the game week 1 before significant changes were made to what they were doing. Teurlings scored 35 in the semis. If you watch that game, you’ll see that their drives were kept alive by penalties over and over again during the resumption of the game Saturday. That score was nowhere close to indicative of what was happening on the field. And Neville being a run first offense without a legit passing game? I don’t think they would have much success at all. Again, we can agree to disagree. And it’s all moot anyway. I do respect your opinions and analysis on this board. It’s always in depth and rooted in facts. I just happen to disagree with you on this one.
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