rookie1
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Post by rookie1 on Apr 18, 2024 7:20:08 GMT -6
Since football season has ended, I have talked to numerous coaches who are done. The lack of support by administrators combine with the workload in the classroom the headache from parents and the low pay has forced so many good coaches out of the profession. I don’t remember it being like this 15 to 20 years ago.
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Post by kamala on Apr 18, 2024 7:43:03 GMT -6
Walked away from coaching 7 years ago and never looked back. Just wasn't worth the headaches or the money. Still teach though.
I now officiate 3 sports and make twice as much as I made from any coaching stipend I ever got, plus when the games are over, I go home and don't have to worry about a thing. Still close to the games without all the issues. Win/Win!
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Post by lhsaamemes on Apr 18, 2024 9:18:21 GMT -6
Since football season has ended, I have talked to numerous coaches who are done. The lack of support by administrators combine with the workload in the classroom the headache from parents and the low pay has forced so many good coaches out of the profession. I don’t remember it being like this 15 to 20 years ago. Attachments:
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Post by lawarrior15 on Apr 18, 2024 10:09:41 GMT -6
Very true. And it seems to be getting worse before it ever gets better
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obc
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Post by obc on Apr 18, 2024 10:14:12 GMT -6
Travel teams may be the future. Free the schools to concentrate on education.
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Post by AirPowerRaider on Apr 18, 2024 10:18:18 GMT -6
Since football season has ended, I have talked to numerous coaches who are done. The lack of support by administrators combine with the workload in the classroom the headache from parents and the low pay has forced so many good coaches out of the profession. I don’t remember it being like this 15 to 20 years ago.
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Post by bullethole on Apr 18, 2024 10:40:43 GMT -6
Travel teams may be the future. Free the schools to concentrate on education. If you take sports out of schools, enrollment and attendance will plummet. It's a proven fact. A lot of kids only make the effort to attend and pass so that they can play sports. It's their motivator. Having said that, I have to say that I think the biggest, most glaring issue right now is weak, spineless administrators, from Principals all the way to Superintendents, who get run over or else play favorites when parents and buddies come to them wanting a certain kid to be playing, or don't like the offense or defense the coach is using, or the coach doesn't kiss their behind enough, or they think their kid should be playing because they gave the most money, or the coach went 2-8 this year and we need to dump him right now regardless of how much he won in the past, or any other of a bunch of BS reasons that rarely have anything to do with what is actually going on. Big salaried career yes-men politicians disguised as "caring administrators" are now running most schools and school systems. Whatever keeps them in their $90,000 to $150,000 job and on the upward career path is what they will do, regardless of who gets hurt by their actions, including kids. Coaches are now just movable pawns on the administrator's career-building chess board.
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Post by lawarrior15 on Apr 18, 2024 11:11:54 GMT -6
Travel teams may be the future. Free the schools to concentrate on education. If you take sports out of schools, enrollment and attendance will plummet. It's a proven fact. A lot of kids only make the effort to attend and pass so that they can play sports. It's their motivator. Having said that, I have to say that I think the biggest, most glaring issue right now is weak, spineless administrators, from Principals all the way to Superintendents, who get run over or else play favorites when parents and buddies come to them wanting a certain kid to be playing, or don't like the offense or defense the coach is using, or the coach doesn't kiss their behind enough, or they think their kid should be playing because they gave the most money, or the coach went 2-8 this year and we need to dump him right now regardless of how much he won in the past, or any other of a bunch of BS reasons that rarely have anything to do with what is actually going on. Big salaried career yes-men politicians disguised as "caring administrators" are now running most schools and school systems. Whatever keeps them in their $90,000 to $150,000 job and on the upward career path is what they will do, regardless of who gets hurt by their actions, including kids. Coaches are now just movable pawns on their career building chess board. PREACH!!!!!!
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Post by AirPowerRaider on Apr 18, 2024 11:13:26 GMT -6
Travel teams may be the future. Free the schools to concentrate on education. If you take sports out of schools, enrollment and attendance will plummet. It's a proven fact. A lot of kids only make the effort to attend and pass so that they can play sports. It's their motivator. Having said that, I have to say that I think the biggest, most glaring issue right now is weak, spineless administrators, from Principals all the way to Superintendents, who get run over or else play favorites when parents and buddies come to them wanting a certain kid to be playing, or don't like the offense or defense the coach is using, or the coach doesn't kiss their behind enough, or they think their kid should be playing because they gave the most money, or the coach went 2-8 this year and we need to dump him right now regardless of how much he won in the past, or any other of a bunch of BS reasons that rarely have anything to do with what is actually going on. Big salaried career yes-men politicians disguised as "caring administrators" are now running most schools and school systems. Whatever keeps them in their $90,000 to $150,000 job and on the upward career path is what they will do, regardless of who gets hurt by their actions, including kids. Coaches are now just movable pawns on the administrator's career-building chess board.
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Post by indy on Apr 19, 2024 5:33:58 GMT -6
Since football season has ended, I have talked to numerous coaches who are done. The lack of support by administrators combine with the workload in the classroom the headache from parents and the low pay has forced so many good coaches out of the profession. I don’t remember it being like this 15 to 20 years ago. I thought the split was supposed to solve everything?
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Post by lhsaamemes on Apr 19, 2024 11:26:55 GMT -6
Walked away from coaching 7 years ago and never looked back. Just wasn't worth the headaches or the money. Still teach though. I now officiate 3 sports and make twice as much as I made from any coaching stipend I ever got, plus when the games are over, I go home and don't have to worry about a thing. Still close to the games without all the issues. Win/Win! Attachments:
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Post by LouisianaFootballFan on Apr 19, 2024 11:54:58 GMT -6
Travel teams may be the future. Free the schools to concentrate on education. If you take sports out of schools, enrollment and attendance will plummet. It's a proven fact. A lot of kids only make the effort to attend and pass so that they can play sports. It's their motivator. Having said that, I have to say that I think the biggest, most glaring issue right now is weak, spineless administrators, from Principals all the way to Superintendents, who get run over or else play favorites when parents and buddies come to them wanting a certain kid to be playing, or don't like the offense or defense the coach is using, or the coach doesn't kiss their behind enough, or they think their kid should be playing because they gave the most money, or the coach went 2-8 this year and we need to dump him right now regardless of how much he won in the past, or any other of a bunch of BS reasons that rarely have anything to do with what is actually going on. Big salaried career yes-men politicians disguised as "caring administrators" are now running most schools and school systems. Whatever keeps them in their $90,000 to $150,000 job and on the upward career path is what they will do, regardless of who gets hurt by their actions, including kids. Coaches are now just movable pawns on the administrator's career-building chess board.
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Post by AirPowerRaider on Apr 19, 2024 12:39:48 GMT -6
Fact is, Coaches don't do it for the money. In any sport. We do it for the love of the game and for the kids. The hours we put in end up being below minimum wage when you do the math. If admin supports policies or drama that make the game hard to love, makes kids lives hell because of their preconceived and incorrect notions about the character of good athletes, or handcuff you to where you only get a small % of the athletes (for those "sport specific" schools out there), it makes it difficult to see the heartache as worth it. It's not everywhere, but it is becoming more common.
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Post by bullethole on Apr 19, 2024 13:07:47 GMT -6
" makes kids lives hell because of their preconceived and incorrect notions about the character of good athletes"
While I support your theory that administrators are a coaches worst nightmare in many cases, I can't support this comment. Are you saying that bad behavior and poor character should be overlooked and excused if a kid is a good athlete?
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Post by lhsaamemes on Apr 19, 2024 13:16:45 GMT -6
Fact is, Coaches don't do it for the money. In any sport. We do it for the love of the game and for the kids. The hours we put in end up being below minimum wage when you do the math. If admin supports policies or drama that make the game hard to love, makes kids lives hell because of their preconceived and incorrect notions about the character of good athletes, or handcuff you to where you only get a small % of the athletes (for those "sport specific" schools out there), it makes it difficult to see the heartache as worth it. It's not everywhere, but it is becoming more common. Attachments:
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Post by walkingturtles on Apr 20, 2024 12:43:45 GMT -6
Travel teams may be the future. Free the schools to concentrate on education. If you take sports out of schools, enrollment and attendance will plummet. It's a proven fact. A lot of kids only make the effort to attend and pass so that they can play sports. It's their motivator. Having said that, I have to say that I think the biggest, most glaring issue right now is weak, spineless administrators, from Principals all the way to Superintendents, who get run over or else play favorites when parents and buddies come to them wanting a certain kid to be playing, or don't like the offense or defense the coach is using, or the coach doesn't kiss their behind enough, or they think their kid should be playing because they gave the most money, or the coach went 2-8 this year and we need to dump him right now regardless of how much he won in the past, or any other of a bunch of BS reasons that rarely have anything to do with what is actually going on. Big salaried career yes-men politicians disguised as "caring administrators" are now running most schools and school systems. Whatever keeps them in their $90,000 to $150,000 job and on the upward career path is what they will do, regardless of who gets hurt by their actions, including kids. Coaches are now just movable pawns on the administrator's career-building chess board. Not only will attendance plummet, community support and involvement will as well. The problem is too many people becoming principals who have zero concept of athletics. School districts should create the athletic director position autonomous from the principal.
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Post by AirPowerRaider on Apr 22, 2024 6:48:18 GMT -6
" makes kids lives hell because of their preconceived and incorrect notions about the character of good athletes" While I support your theory that administrators are a coaches worst nightmare in many cases, I can't support this comment. Are you saying that bad behavior and poor character should be overlooked and excused if a kid is a good athlete? Never said that. I guess I need to be more specific in my verbiage. I ways trying to say that at some schools (not all), some teachers and admin (not all) look poorly on athletes just for being athletes. For whatever reason, it happens. Just like every school has some a-hole athletes that think they should get away with anything because of their talent. I didn't, and try not, to speak in absolutes. All I was saying is that said treatment of athletes seems to happen more often than usual. Never suggested excusing bad character or behavior from athletes. Athletes should be held to a higher standard when it comes to discipline in my opinion. I was only talking about the few faculty members (there seems to often be at least one in most schools) that for some reason have a vendetta against athletes. Once again, doesn't always happen, but seems to happen more now than in years past.
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Post by AirPowerRaider on Apr 22, 2024 6:49:54 GMT -6
" makes kids lives hell because of their preconceived and incorrect notions about the character of good athletes" While I support your theory that administrators are a coaches worst nightmare in many cases, I can't support this comment. Are you saying that bad behavior and poor character should be overlooked and excused if a kid is a good athlete? Never said that. I guess I need to be more specific in my verbiage. I ways trying to say that at some schools (not all), some teachers and admin (not all) look poorly on athletes just for being athletes. For whatever reason, it happens. Just like every school has some a-hole athletes that think they should get away with anything because of their talent. I didn't, and try not, to speak in absolutes. All I was saying is that said treatment of athletes seems to happen more often than usual. Never suggested excusing bad character or behavior from athletes. Athletes should be held to a higher standard when it comes to discipline in my opinion. I was only talking about the few faculty members (there seems to often be at least one in most schools) that for some reason have a vendetta against athletes. Once again, doesn't always happen, but seems to happen more now than in years past. And I also must admit, there are more of those a-hole athletes acting crazy these days than there used to be in the past as well.
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Post by hasbeen on Apr 22, 2024 7:35:07 GMT -6
Its not just athletes. Its kids in general. Ask anyone that's been in education 10+ years.
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