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Post by iknownuthing on Sept 25, 2017 8:08:22 GMT -6
Watching the level of lack of respect for our nation and the hypocrisy of these millionaires who have become oppressed, I have given up on the Saints on a Sunday in which they won a game. Turned it off just after the kickoff, did not turn it back on. Last night I watched the Vietnam special on PBS and watch some real hero's, men of all races, who gave their life to help give liberty to those kneeling. I am expressing my right to protest the kneels. I also am very disappointed and call for an end to all state contracts with Mr. Benson. If they move they move. Adios and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
The combined annual salaries of those that knelt in protest this past Sunday, $33,330,659 or $2,083,166.19 per game. Amount of Subsidies in the current contract with Tom Benson to keep the Saints in NOLA, received from the tax payers of the state of Louisiana, $392,000,000. Amount of money to build the SuperDome ^$120,000,000. Amount to renovate the Superdome paid by the State of Louisiana taxpayers, $85,000,000. Tom Benson's net worth is north of $1.2 BILLION Dollars. The average income of Louisiana Residents $40,175. Number of murders in NOLA and Baton Rouge year to date: 220.
Done
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Post by logic on Sept 28, 2017 14:10:36 GMT -6
I agree its a disgrace for these players to kneel when others are fighting for their freedom. It's a disgrace to our country and all the members of the military. Tom Benson is a coward for not making a stand. I agree 100 percent with the above post.
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Post by brprepfan on Sept 30, 2017 19:47:53 GMT -6
I will watch extra with my two sons. Enjoy!
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Post by BeatemBustem on Oct 2, 2017 18:04:54 GMT -6
No More NFL for me
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Post by indy on Oct 2, 2017 18:10:13 GMT -6
I'm done with it as well. But the truth be told I was pretty much done years ago. There is no more loyalty, no ethics, and no morals.
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Post by scrollmaster on Nov 12, 2017 8:28:56 GMT -6
I added myself to the list of being done with the NFL a while back. I also took time to find a list of their sponsors and I don't buy their products as well
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Post by jhs on Nov 20, 2017 18:41:23 GMT -6
I don’t watch them either.
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Post by brprepfan on Nov 21, 2017 10:50:39 GMT -6
Guess what they are really good. If you like high school football, I have secret, the pros are a lot better.
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Post by jhs on Dec 10, 2017 13:00:06 GMT -6
Guess what they are really good. If you like high school football, I have secret, the pros are a lot better. You’re kidding, right?
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Post by brprepfan on Dec 26, 2017 21:11:19 GMT -6
Why would I be kidding. Who Dat!!!!!!
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Post by LATigerFan on Dec 27, 2017 8:19:14 GMT -6
I'm not boycotting the NFL at all but it's not even close as far what level is better.
1 High School 2 College
3 NFL
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Post by movethechains on Oct 22, 2018 7:05:22 GMT -6
Imagine if refs couldn't enforce rules for showing off how bad it would be today. Completely classless. A running back runs up the middle untouched and scores from the five yard line, something I could still do, lol. But he has to dance, or beat on his chest, or both. Instead of going back to the offensive lineman and thanking them, he's looking for the camera to be sure it's all about him. An to top it off, he may have done this with his team losing by twenty points in the last two minutes, lol. Complete .
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Post by CLEAN on Oct 22, 2018 15:25:34 GMT -6
I'm done with it as well. But the truth be told I was pretty much done years ago. There is no more loyalty, no ethics, and no morals. It doesn’t fit your idea of morals. But it makes sense to a lot of other people.
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Post by indy on Oct 22, 2018 16:54:18 GMT -6
I'm done with it as well. But the truth be told I was pretty much done years ago. There is no more loyalty, no ethics, and no morals. It doesn’t fit your idea of morals. But it makes sense to a lot of other people. Obviously, I wasn’t trying to sway anyone’s opinion, simply stated mine.
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Post by movethechains on Oct 22, 2018 19:34:41 GMT -6
It doesn’t fit your idea of morals. But it makes sense to a lot of other people. Obviously, I wasn’t trying to sway anyone’s opinion, simply stated mine. Different morals...different opinions. Some things "makes sense" to five year olds. Like Vince Lombardi would tell his players..."if you score, act like you've been there before." Now it's a "look at me, I scored, or I make a tackle" culture. I remember Barry Sanders, who was better than any running back of today, would just hand the ball to the ref after he'd score. He wasn't looking for a camera to dance in front of, lol.
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Post by Southplaq on Oct 23, 2018 15:28:29 GMT -6
There is so much I can say about this post, concerning the kneeling "controversy", I'll just say I support the players who kneel, because it's THEIR RIGHT to do so![
But on another note, I don't really watch the NFL because prep and college football is far more exciting
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Post by CLEAN on Oct 23, 2018 16:11:43 GMT -6
There is so much I can say about this post, concerning the kneeling "controversy", I'll just say I support the players who kneel, because it's THEIR RIGHT to do so![ But on another note, I don't really watch the NFL because prep and college football is far more exciting Same here. By the time Sundays get here, my mind is numb. I mainly sleep while the games play out on my TV.
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Post by movethechains on Oct 23, 2018 19:49:35 GMT -6
Most people aren't against "their rights" to protest, it's what they're protesting and the way they're going about it. Does anyone actually believe this kneeling is helping any person that is being oppressed? Ask any oppressed person how much the kneeling has helped their situation. Help the high school you came from with better funding so those kids can get better opportunities in the real world. That will help much more than kneeling down during a song. Something similar years ago happened...the Saints won the Superbowl after Katrina. Everyone was so excited how much that helped the people of New Orleans get back hope and on their feet again. One older black gentleman was asked about it...his reply..."man, a bunch of millionaires win a freaking football game ain't helping my situation at all. I'm no better off." This was on a TV documentary.I know it helped the city some, but for most of the poor people in New Orleans, did that help their situation, c'mon, like people say. I love high school football more than any other sport. But it's entertainment. Now for coaches and schools, sure the more you win, the better the proceeds. That's understandable.
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Post by cvwildcatfan on Oct 23, 2018 20:15:47 GMT -6
This country was founded on protesting, if you want to be offended by something, be offended by the billions of taxpayer money being used to build these stadiums for billionaire owners.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Oct 24, 2018 7:32:39 GMT -6
Most people aren't against "their rights" to protest, it's what they're protesting and the way they're going about it. Does anyone actually believe this kneeling is helping any person that is being oppressed? Ask any oppressed person how much the kneeling has helped their situation. Help the high school you came from with better funding so those kids can get better opportunities in the real world. That will help much more than kneeling down during a song. Something similar years ago happened...the Saints won the Superbowl after Katrina. Everyone was so excited how much that helped the people of New Orleans get back hope and on their feet again. One older black gentleman was asked about it...his reply..."man, a bunch of millionaires win a freaking football game ain't helping my situation at all. I'm no better off." This was on a TV documentary.I know it helped the city some, but for most of the poor people in New Orleans, did that help their situation, c'mon, like people say. I love high school football more than any other sport. But it's entertainment. Now for coaches and schools, sure the more you win, the better
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Post by Southplaq on Oct 24, 2018 13:52:21 GMT -6
And most people who are against them protesting have no Damn clue why they are protesting. It's hard for the oppressor to understand the oppressed Did black people sitting at a lunch counter at an all-white establishment help the oppressed? Did black people marching from Selma to Montgomery help the oppressed? Did a little old black lady sitting in the front of a bus help the oppressed? Did a black man named Homer Plessy riding a white-only streetcar help the oppressed? Did two black Olympic champions raising a gloved fist into the air on the podium help the oppressed? So, how does black players kneeling at a football game on a national stage help the oppressed? the same way all the other demonstrations of protest helped the oppressed back in the 60's? it bought awareness to the national stage about the oppressed. You see, it's hard for the oppressor to understand the oppressed. When you are part of the majority and everything is going good for you, it's hard to understand the people who are being unjustly treated. I've seen both sides, so I know exactly what the hell im talking about. I've been with whites friends and confronted by police and the group was treated a hell of a lot different than when I was with a group of black friends doing the same exact thing. so while you might be naive as to what good kneeling is doing, I can tell you it's serving its purpose I'm not opposed to them protesting, that is their right. I am opposed to them kneeling during the National Anthem, to me this is disrespecting the military more than bringing attention to the public about a group being oppressed. I usually don't get into "politics" and I'm not trying to start a "fight" just adding my opinion. Yes, I hate political discussions. even though this is tied to football, it has no place on this forum. I wish the admin would ban any talk on here that deals with national politics. but It's all good man. lol. I respect your opinion to feel the way you do. Honestly, I don't think kneeling at a sporting event is the way to go about it either, but it's their right to do so, and I do understand the bigger picture of why he decided to do it. It has nothing to do with his lack of "patriotism" or his "disrespect" of the flag, but that is how certain media entities spin it to get the hateful reaction they seek. It's total bullcrap that the national anthem is played at a sporting event in the first place, but once again, money talks so now we have this farce of a patriotic display at a damn sporting event.
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Post by movethechains on Oct 24, 2018 13:55:59 GMT -6
Publicgrad….glad to see, I agree with you it's disrespecting the military a lot more than helping the oppressed. All of what blacks did in the past took a hell of a lot more courage than some millionaire football player kneeling for about two minutes. How can anyone compare the two is, well......and not everything is going well for all white people. I was seven or eight years old before I lived in a house with electricity or running water. I helped mama and daddy pick moss to make our mattresses. We saved corn shucks to stuff our pillow cases in the winter time. Yes, we sure were part of the majority. We had soooo much white privilege, lol. My dad fought four years in WW2 for the USA. He fought with good white and black soldiers.Not just blacks have been oppressed. And if it's all white peoples' fault, there are lots of places to live where there are no whites to oppress anyone. Wouldn't it be nice to live in a country with no whites??? I'm against segregation. Shouldn't ALL races be? So let's get rid of the black nfl players association, the congressional black caucus. While we're all wanting to be equal, let's not have anymore black Miss America, or BET TV. Those are all segregated groups. Can't have it both ways.
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Post by movethechains on Oct 24, 2018 14:01:37 GMT -6
Well, we all have our opinions. And we're all probably very hard headed with those opinions. I respect anyone's right to protest peacefully. That's one of the things my dad fought to protect. Whether I agree with certain protest or not, I will still respect that persons' right to do so.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Oct 24, 2018 14:37:24 GMT -6
I'm not opposed to them protesting, that is their right. I am opposed to them kneeling during the National Anthem, to me this is disrespecting the military more than bringing attention to the public about a group being oppressed. I usually don't get into "politics" and I'm not trying to start a "fight" just adding my opinion. Yes, I hate political discussions. even though this is tied to football, it has no place on this forum. I wish the admin would ban any talk on here that deals with national politics. but It's all good man. lol. I respect your opinion to feel the way you do. Honestly, I don't think kneeling at a sporting event is the way to go about it either, but it's their right to do so, and I do understand the bigger picture of why he decided to do it. It has nothing to do with his lack of "patriotism" or his "disrespect" of the flag, but that is how certain media entities spin it to get the hateful reaction they seek. It's total bullcrap that the national anthem is played at a sporting event in the first place, but once again, money talks so now we have this farce of a patriotic display at a damn sporting event. We can agree to disagree on the National Anthem at sporting events. The National Anthem is a song that should bring us together as Nation not tear us apart. I can remember standing on the sidelines all lined up with helmets under our arms for the Anthem to be played by our band, I realize all schools don't have a band but that's that what I remember. At the end of the song everyone straps up & "school pump up song" is played. (Eye of the Tiger at my school) Then kick off. Of course I'm probably older than you, but that was at every school/stadium I ever played in.
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Post by BGH on Nov 19, 2018 17:52:18 GMT -6
This country was founded on protesting, if you want to be offended by something, be offended by the billions of taxpayer money being used to build these stadiums for billionaire owners.
If you protest at work, what would happen to you? These NFL players are at work while they are protesting.
I work in a business that is customer oriented, and I have to be careful not to offend those customers because my employer would suffer for my actions. The same thing should go for the NFL players.
If the players really want to protest, then stand outside the stadium and protest on their OWN time. Or better yet, buy a ticket and have the guts to sit in the stands and protest.
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Post by BGH on Nov 19, 2018 21:10:52 GMT -6
This country was founded on protesting, if you want to be offended by something, be offended by the billions of taxpayer money being used to build these stadiums for billionaire owners.
If you protest at work, what would happen to you? These NFL players are at work while they are protesting.
I work in a business that is customer oriented, and I have to be careful not to offend those customers because my employer would suffer for my actions. The same thing should go for the NFL players.
If the players really want to protest, then stand outside the stadium and protest on their OWN time. Or better yet, buy a ticket and have the guts to sit in the stands and protest.
I don't know how I even got to this forum. I thought I was on the football forum when I read it.
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Post by 5speed on Aug 5, 2019 12:53:14 GMT -6
Well, we all have our opinions. And we're all probably very hard headed with those opinions. I respect anyone's right to protest peacefully. That's one of the things my dad fought to protect. Whether I agree with certain protest or not, I will still respect that persons' right to do so. This thread is actually pretty respectful from both sides of the debate as well as other threads in this forum.
I'm an LSU fan, but their political forum is terrible in my opinion over on Tigerdroppings. If you're a minority and not a conservative, be prepared for the bs over their. I've seen people's true nature come out about how they feel about others, especially black folks. Which is interesting since they cheer on LSU's black athletes ever Saturday during football season.
At least on this board, fans are civilized and act within the bounds of reason.
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Post by brprepfan on Aug 16, 2019 21:00:16 GMT -6
Tigerdroppings is a cesspool of right wing fanatics.
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