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Post by Southplaq on Dec 1, 2017 23:40:23 GMT -6
Hmmmm
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Post by rocketman33 on Dec 1, 2017 23:50:22 GMT -6
Yes sir. 4th down as time expired, pass interference was called on Ferriday and the pass was clearly uncatchable, way above the WR head...time ran out and St. Helena got one more play...as QB was being taken to the ground he threw the ball for the TD. Game winning play should have never happened...should have been overtime after the 4th down play.
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Post by evergreen on Dec 2, 2017 0:02:15 GMT -6
I did hear the pass was not catch-able ,but it is over.
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Post by indy on Dec 2, 2017 0:04:35 GMT -6
I want to hear KingBoo’s take.
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Post by wildcat on Dec 2, 2017 0:17:06 GMT -6
I want to hear KingBoo’s take. You would be better off hearing it because you sure as hell cant read it and understand it.
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Post by django on Dec 2, 2017 0:21:27 GMT -6
Yes sir. 4th down as time expired, pass interference was called on Ferriday and the pass was clearly uncatchable, way above the WR head...time ran out and St. Helena got one more play...as QB was being taken to the ground he threw the ball for the TD. Game winning play should have never happened...should have been overtime after the 4th down play. ”uncatchable” & “in the grasp” are neither one calls in the National Federation, & therefore, not in LHSAA football. Ferriday was not robbed; just beaten by a better team, as I predicted they would be
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 2, 2017 0:22:17 GMT -6
I want to hear KingBoo’s take. You would be better off hearing it because you sure as hell cant read it and understand it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by knowitall on Dec 2, 2017 0:23:49 GMT -6
There is no such thing as uncatchable in high school federation rules, it might need to change like the intentional grounding that was changed this last season, but as for now, no such thing exist.
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Post by indy on Dec 2, 2017 0:26:47 GMT -6
I want to hear KingBoo’s take. You would be better off hearing it because you sure as hell cant read it and understand it. But I like to try, and eventually someone will interpret it.
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Post by rocketman33 on Dec 2, 2017 0:40:13 GMT -6
Yes sir. 4th down as time expired, pass interference was called on Ferriday and the pass was clearly uncatchable, way above the WR head...time ran out and St. Helena got one more play...as QB was being taken to the ground he threw the ball for the TD. Game winning play should have never happened...should have been overtime after the 4th down play. ”uncatchable” & “in the grasp” are neither one calls in the National Federation, & therefore, not in LHSAA football. Ferriday was not robbed; just beaten by a better team, as I predicted they would be. Yes....Ferriday was CLEARLY robbed. Robbed of a win?? Not sure. Robbed of stopping St. Helena on 4th down and sending the game into overtime? Absolutely.
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 2, 2017 1:24:57 GMT -6
”uncatchable” & “in the grasp” are neither one calls in the National Federation, & therefore, not in LHSAA football. Ferriday was not robbed; just beaten by a better team, as I predicted they would be. Yes....Ferriday was CLEARLY robbed. Robbed of a win?? Not sure. Robbed of stopping St. Helena on 4th down and sending the game into overtime? Absolutely. Maybe we can get Jerry Lee Lewis to Write a song about it and Jimmy Swaggart to preach a sermon on it this Sunday
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Post by jonevils on Dec 2, 2017 5:33:10 GMT -6
I want to hear KingBoo’s take. He sent me a message: "Dem Trojans got robbed we was bout to overtime December 8th and knocking decals off and district 2-2A Se c Ferriday Alabama Welsh and st he Lena ain't ready and we should be there but we not and don't matter who win cuz den Trojans champions for reael cuz we got robbed and we would knock decals off Welsh helmuts"
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Post by zebra on Dec 2, 2017 8:38:53 GMT -6
Yes sir. 4th down as time expired, pass interference was called on Ferriday and the pass was clearly uncatchable, way above the WR head...time ran out and St. Helena got one more play...as QB was being taken to the ground he threw the ball for the TD. Game winning play should have never happened...should have been overtime after the 4th down play. In Federation rules there is "no such thing" as an uncatchable ball. The ball could end up in the stands, but if it was pass interference on the field it must be called. I don't have a dog in the fight just explaining the rules. It sucks but that is the rule.
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Post by zebra on Dec 2, 2017 8:42:03 GMT -6
There is no such thing as uncatchable in high school federation rules, it might need to change like the intentional grounding that was changed this last season, but as for now, no such thing exist. Louisina was the only state this year that had the grounding rule. It was used on a trial basis to see how it "worked". Now it will be voted on again to see if it will perminnantly be a rule. I think it worked good this year and should stay.
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Post by unpopularopinion on Dec 2, 2017 9:10:50 GMT -6
Ferriday had two SEC linemen and a half dozen other college-level football players and couldn't even make it to the dome! Not too sporty!
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Post by django on Dec 2, 2017 9:19:56 GMT -6
”uncatchable” & “in the grasp” are neither one calls in the National Federation, & therefore, not in LHSAA football. Ferriday was not robbed; just beaten by a better team, as I predicted they would be. Yes....Ferriday was CLEARLY robbed. Robbed of a win?? Not sure. Robbed of stopping St. Helena on 4th down and sending the game into overtime? Absolutely. They weren’t clearly robbed, as neither of the situations you mentioned as inconsistencies are within the rules that LHSAA plays by.
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 2, 2017 14:38:32 GMT -6
Yes sir. 4th down as time expired, pass interference was called on Ferriday and the pass was clearly uncatchable, way above the WR head...time ran out and St. Helena got one more play...as QB was being taken to the ground he threw the ball for the TD. Game winning play should have never happened...should have been overtime after the 4th down play. In Federation rules there is "no such thing" as an uncatchable ball. The ball could end up in the stands, but if it was pass interference on the field it must be called. I don't have a dog in the fight just explaining the rules. It sucks but that is the rule. So, let me get this straight. If a QB throws the ball downfield to a receiver and there is no possible way in hell he can catch it, and the DB bumps him or grabs him or interfere with him in any way, a flag will be thrown? The "PASS INTERFERENCE" Rule is exactly that. you're interfering with the receiver's ability to catch the ball. If ball is uncatchable then the rule doesn't apply. thats like giving someone a speeding ticket when there are no speed limit signs. What the hell is the DB interfering with? The ability of the WR to chase a ball he can't possibility catch? Please tell me that grown Adults didn't agree to this "rule". So the pros are smart enough to realize this, but the good ole' Louisiana folks aren't?
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Post by zebra on Dec 2, 2017 14:54:50 GMT -6
In Federation rules there is "no such thing" as an uncatchable ball. The ball could end up in the stands, but if it was pass interference on the field it must be called. I don't have a dog in the fight just explaining the rules. It sucks but that is the rule. So, let me get this straight. If a QB throws the ball downfield to a receiver and there is no possible way in hell he can catch it, and the DB bumps him or grabs him or interfere with him in any way, a flag will be thrown? The "PASS INTERFERENCE" Rule is exactly that. you're interfering with the receiver's ability to catch the ball. If ball is uncatchable then the rule doesn't apply. thats like giving someone a speeding ticket when there are no speed limit signs. What the hell is the DB interfering with? The ability of the WR to chase a ball he can't possibility catch? Please tell me that grown Adults didn't agree to this "rule". So the pros are smart enough to realize this, but the good ole' Louisiana folks aren't? Defensive pass interference starts once the ball leaves the passers hand if any type of interference happened( on the other side of the field) it is by rule pass interference. As an offical we are not looking at the Quarterback nor the ball when we are down field. We are looking at our zone of the field and the players in it. So we don't know where the ball is thrown. Buts by the letter of the law in Federation rules it is DPI. Offensive pass interfence begins at the snap of the ball. That's the only difference between the 2.
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Post by groundandpound on Dec 2, 2017 15:15:36 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong but the uncatchable rule has only been NFL and college for around seven to ten years uh or am I wrong
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 2, 2017 15:26:21 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong but the uncatchable rule has only been NFL and college for around seven to ten years uh or am I wrong If so, it means that 7 to 10 years ago ,a group of people with logic and common sense had a meeting and came up the fact that you cant have a pass interference call on a ball that can't possibility be caught. So, Think about this, according to our "rules" if the ball is thrown in the general area of the WR, but sails 20 feet over his head into the stands, but in the process, the DB bumps him, it's pass interference. GTHOFH. I mean come on man, some things are just common sense. Why doesn't t it surprise me that Louisiana still can't figure this one out.
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Post by zebra on Dec 2, 2017 15:28:32 GMT -6
Correct me if I'm wrong but the uncatchable rule has only been NFL and college for around seven to ten years uh or am I wrong If so, it means that 7 to 10 years ago ,a group of people with logic and common sense had a meeting and came up the fact that you cant have a pass interference call on a ball that can't possibility be caught. So, Think about this, according to our "rules" if the ball is thrown in the general area of the WR, but sails 20 feet over his head into the stands, but in the process, the DB bumps him, it's pass interference. GTHOFH. I mean come on man, some things are just common sense. Why doesn't t it surprise me that Louisiana still can't figure this one out. Hey I just enforce the rules that I am given to enforce. But a meer bump wouldn't make my flag come out of my pocket. If he tackled him then unfortunately I would have to.
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 2, 2017 15:35:04 GMT -6
If so, it means that 7 to 10 years ago ,a group of people with logic and common sense had a meeting and came up the fact that you cant have a pass interference call on a ball that can't possibility be caught. So, Think about this, according to our "rules" if the ball is thrown in the general area of the WR, but sails 20 feet over his head into the stands, but in the process, the DB bumps him, it's pass interference. GTHOFH. I mean come on man, some things are just common sense. Why doesn't t it surprise me that Louisiana still can't figure this one out. Hey I just enforce the rules that I am given to enforce. But a meer bump wouldn't make my flag come out of my pocket. If he tackled him then unfortunately I would have to. LOL! I know bro. This isn't about you or any of the other officials. You have to enforce the rules you are given, no matter how absurd they might be. Honestly, I admire you guys for doing what you do and being able to keep your cool during the games, while you all are being taunted and cussed at by fans, who THINK they know the rules. I just read the rule surrounding this, and you are exactly correct. The rule says exactly what you are saying, but it doesn't change the fact that it needs to be looked at and changed.
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Post by cowboy on Dec 3, 2017 14:50:19 GMT -6
It's not Louisiana, it's a National Federation rule that has been around forever. To my knowledge, the only state that does not follow NFHS in high school is Texas. Refs always have discretion as to what constitutes interference, as it is a judgement call. However, an uncatchable ball cannot be the reason interference is not called.
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Post by zebra on Dec 3, 2017 16:10:50 GMT -6
It's not Louisiana, it's a National Federation rule that has been around forever. To my knowledge, the only state that does not follow NFHS in high school is Texas. Refs always have discretion as to what constitutes interference, as it is a judgement call. However, an uncatchable ball cannot be the reason interference is not called. Again, you are correct!
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Post by rvanicor on Dec 4, 2017 0:57:01 GMT -6
That is correct. Unfortunate at times because it's quick judgement call. You did in fact have 47:59 seconds to win the game before that call was made. We have been on the end of a bad end of game in the semi call before just like several other teams all you can do is use it as momentum for next year and keep that chip on your shoulder
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