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Post by Southplaq on Jun 4, 2018 0:35:53 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime)
Here are some I would consider:
J.T. Curtis
Red Franklin
Dennis Dunn
Don Shows
Lewis Cook
Vic Dalrymple
Bill Stubbs
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Post by LATigerFan on Jun 4, 2018 5:42:24 GMT -6
Nick Saban. You said choose any coach.
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Post by abbebusoni on Jun 4, 2018 6:02:43 GMT -6
Nick Saban. You said choose any coach. Morris Buttermaker (mic drop)
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Post by dogwalk on Jun 4, 2018 7:00:10 GMT -6
Bret Fuselier from Kinder Duh.
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Post by irish84 on Jun 4, 2018 7:03:29 GMT -6
Bret Fuselier from Kinder Duh. He's just a babysitter. Wainwright is the one who started the great dynasty.
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Post by indy on Jun 4, 2018 7:33:47 GMT -6
Bret Fuselier from Kinder Duh. He's just a babysitter. Wainwright is the one who started the great dynasty. You are right about Wainwright getting it started,,but The split created their so called dynasty. Rubber band zones helped too.
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Post by Hvillefan on Jun 4, 2018 12:12:38 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime) Here are some I would consider: J.T. Curtis Red Franklin Dennis Dunn Don Shows Lewis Cook Vic Dalrymple Bill Stubbs I don’t think you could really go wrong with any of those guys. I’m from Haynesville so I would take Red Franklin of course. He’s a perfectionist who stressed the importance of technique, leverage, and discipline. He could take a 150-160lb offensive lineman and teach them how to whip a 250-260lb defensive lineman.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2018 16:31:35 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime) Here are some I would consider: J.T. Curtis Red Franklin Dennis Dunn Don Shows Lewis Cook Vic Dalrymple Bill Stubbs Chuck Childress And it isn't close. Had Ruston in top 19 nationally 3 years during his reign and had an elite rival at Neville he had to beat, who's head coach was his mentor in Charlie Brown.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 4, 2018 19:50:17 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime) Here are some I would consider: J.T. Curtis Red Franklin Dennis Dunn Don Shows Lewis Cook Vic Dalrymple Bill Stubbs I guess that depends. Am i starting a private school program in one of the biggest cities in Louisiana or a small town public school program? Or a private school in a medium size town with good talent that is less than 30 minutes from 4 other towns with good talent ?
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Post by indy on Jun 5, 2018 6:33:04 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime) Here are some I would consider: J.T. Curtis Red Franklin Dennis Dunn Don Shows Lewis Cook Vic Dalrymple Bill Stubbs I guess that depends. Am i starting a private school program in one of the biggest cities in Louisiana or a small town public school program? Or a private school in a medium size town with good talent that is less than 30 minutes from 4 other towns with good talent ? It’s a hypothetical question inviting you to be creative, heck, at least one of the coach picks is dead. So be creative!
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Post by jonevils on Jun 5, 2018 7:09:33 GMT -6
I'd pick Red Franklin he really did a lot more than most schools with at times less talent (being the coach of a smaller school)
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Post by Southplaq on Jun 5, 2018 14:26:45 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime) Here are some I would consider: J.T. Curtis Red Franklin Dennis Dunn Don Shows Lewis Cook Vic Dalrymple Bill Stubbs I guess that depends. Am i starting a private school program in one of the biggest cities in Louisiana or a small town public school program? Or a private school in a medium size town with good talent that is less than 30 minutes from 4 other towns with good talent ? Man, we can really get creative with this one. What if it's a private school who steals kids by giving them free tuition via a non-existent "work program". Or what if it's a public school who is cloaked by the "open enrollment, charter school" veil and is able to get most of the best football players from a 12 mile radius because it has no attendance zones and no tuition.
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Post by Southplaq on Jun 5, 2018 14:31:52 GMT -6
This might be a biased question, but putting the bias aside, if you are starting a new school and putting together a football team, who would you hire to coach them? (Chose Any coach in their prime) Here are some I would consider: J.T. Curtis Red Franklin Dennis Dunn Don Shows Lewis Cook Vic Dalrymple Bill Stubbs Chuck Childress And it isn't close. Had Ruston in top 19 nationally 3 years during his reign and had an elite rival at Neville he had to beat, who's head coach was his mentor in Charlie Brown. I was going to list Charlie and Chick but I figured that if I left them off, it might awaken our sleeping Ruston and Neville fans to start posting again.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 5, 2018 15:13:29 GMT -6
I guess that depends. Am i starting a private school program in one of the biggest cities in Louisiana or a small town public school program? Or a private school in a medium size town with good talent that is less than 30 minutes from 4 other towns with good talent ? Man, we can really get creative with this one. What if it's a private school who steals kids by giving them free tuition via a non-existent "work program". Or what if it's a public school who is cloaked by the "open enrollment, charter school" veil and is able to get most of the best football players from a 12 mile radius because it has no attendance zones and no tuition. also tell me the talent level of my players... that would influence which coach i would hire. tell me if i have kids who should be happy to make the playoffs once every four years (and rebuild for three), once every ten years, or whether i have kids who should be going to the Dome every year...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 16:50:50 GMT -6
Chuck Childress And it isn't close. Had Ruston in top 19 nationally 3 years during his reign and had an elite rival at Neville he had to beat, who's head coach was his mentor in Charlie Brown. I was going to list Charlie and Chick but I figured that if I left them off, it might awaken our sleeping Ruston and Neville fans to start posting again. Im a fan of neither, but what Chick did at Ruston over his tenure was ridiculous when considering what neville was also doing with Brown. Those are 2 national powers down the interstate from each other and both apart of the same coaching tree. I was wrong about 3 top 19; I meant 3 top 10. Also was apart of the best district in louisiana in 4A ball. You can't really go wrong with either Shows or Childress when it comes to public schools. Private it is obvious, Curtis or Dunn. Today it is Karr's HC or Brewerton. Both establishing dynasties in a new Era of football for public and private University and Catholic. I'm right you know.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2018 18:35:54 GMT -6
Chuck Childress And it isn't close. Had Ruston in top 19 nationally 3 years during his reign and had an elite rival at Neville he had to beat, who's head coach was his mentor in Charlie Brown. I was going to list Charlie and Chick but I figured that if I left them off, it might awaken our sleeping Ruston and Neville fans to start posting again. Im a fan of neither, but what Chick did at Ruston over his tenure was ridiculous when considering what neville was also doing with Brown. Those are 2 national powers down the interstate from each other and both apart of the same coaching tree. I was wrong about 3 top 19; I meant 3 top 10. Also was apart of the best district in louisiana in 4A ball. You can't really go wrong with either Shows or Childress when it comes to public schools. Private it is obvious, Curtis or Dunn. Today it is Karr's HC or Brewerton. Both establishing dynasties in a new Era of football for public and private University and Catholic. I'm right you know.
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Post by brprepfan on Jun 5, 2018 20:09:16 GMT -6
Kenny guillot at Parkview. They never had much college football talent. He won 4 state championships there.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 6, 2018 15:24:36 GMT -6
Kenny guillot at Parkview. They never had much college football talent. He won 4 state championships there. In 2013 Karr was nationally ranked and had several college prospects but it didn't help them or Neville against East Jefferson. It didn't help Madison Prep against Sterlington either. You don't need a team loaded with college talent to win a High School State Championship. Speaking on the subject, I can tell u that J.T. Curtis is the one Coach i wouldn't even attempt to hire.
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Post by indy on Jun 6, 2018 18:48:58 GMT -6
Kenny guillot at Parkview. They never had much college football talent. He won 4 state championships there. In 2013 Karr was nationally ranked and had several college prospects but it didn't help them or Neville against East Jefferson. It didn't help Madison Prep against Sterlington either. You don't need a team loaded with college talent to win a High School State Championship. Speaking on the subject, I can tell u that J.T. Curtis is the one Coach i wouldn't even attempt to hire. I just spoke with J.T., he is devastated. Please reconsider
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Post by icemanparsons on Jun 7, 2018 10:03:12 GMT -6
Perry Lalonde
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Post by wildcat on Jun 7, 2018 12:27:28 GMT -6
Kenny guillot at Parkview. They never had much college football talent. He won 4 state championships there. In 2013 Karr was nationally ranked and had several college prospects but it didn't help them or Neville against East Jefferson. It didn't help Madison Prep against Sterlington either. You don't need a team loaded with college talent to win a High School State Championship. Speaking on the subject, I can tell u that J.T. Curtis is the one Coach i wouldn't even attempt to hire. Do you mind being elaborate on why you wouldn't attempt to hire him?
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Post by logic on Jun 7, 2018 14:09:02 GMT -6
26 state titles. Not sure why you would not consider JT 500 plus wins
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Post by tigerfan87 on Jun 7, 2018 19:31:53 GMT -6
I'm partial of course but I think Dalrrmple has a place in this argument. He truly did more with less. Won 4 titles, 3 runner ups and a bunch more semi final appearances and never had the most talented team, well maybe one year out of all those. Usually we're about the second or 3rd most talented team in his own district and still almost always won it easily. In the seasons he made deep runs and won or played for titles he usually beat 2-3 teams in the playoffs with more talent,some times the other team had way more talent to the point that it looked like a hilarious mismatch watching the teams warm up. And he just didn't win a lot of these games but blew out the more talented opponents. I know coaching a 1-a team hurts him here but he was offered just about every 5a and 4a job in northeast Louisiana at some point, some of the schools offered him the job on more than one occasion but he never left OG. Some of the games he out coached the guy across the field so bad it would almost make you laugh. And to get off point did somebody say Red Franklin did more with less? Coach Franklin is an absolute legend and got to be one of the top dogs in this argument haynesville has almost never done less with more. They always have speed that most small schools can't sniff. There is almost never a time they play a 1a or 2-a team and can't match up talent wise. Not taking anything away from coach franklin he could have took most teams jv and probably beat the varsity. My dad played and coached against him and held him in the highest regard
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 7, 2018 19:55:00 GMT -6
In 2013 Karr was nationally ranked and had several college prospects but it didn't help them or Neville against East Jefferson. It didn't help Madison Prep against Sterlington either. You don't need a team loaded with college talent to win a High School State Championship. Speaking on the subject, I can tell u that J.T. Curtis is the one Coach i wouldn't even attempt to hire. Do you mind being elaborate on why you wouldn't attempt to hire him? I was wondering when somebody would ask. He wouldn't even be on my list because he would never leave John Curtis. Besides the legacy he's already built there, i'm sure he's had many chances to leave there including some college coaching offers and he's still there. His family has dedicated their lives to that school and its way too special to him.. And let's not forget that his father founded the school.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 7, 2018 19:56:48 GMT -6
26 state titles. Not sure why you would not consider JT 500 plus wins See the post above this one for the answer.
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Post by indy on Jun 7, 2018 20:13:10 GMT -6
26 state titles. Not sure why you would not consider JT 500 plus wins See the post above this one for the answer. The fact that Don Shows is dead (RIP) and others are retired Would leave you to believe that this is a hypothetical wish list. I think you knew that.
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Post by Hvillefan on Jun 8, 2018 10:25:39 GMT -6
I'm partial of course but I think Dalrrmple has a place in this argument. He truly did more with less. Won 4 titles, 3 runner ups and a bunch more semi final appearances and never had the most talented team, well maybe one year out of all those. Usually we're about the second or 3rd most talented team in his own district and still almost always won it easily. In the seasons he made deep runs and won or played for titles he usually beat 2-3 teams in the playoffs with more talent,some times the other team had way more talent to the point that it looked like a hilarious mismatch watching the teams warm up. And he just didn't win a lot of these games but blew out the more talented opponents. I know coaching a 1-a team hurts him here but he was offered just about every 5a and 4a job in northeast Louisiana at some point, some of the schools offered him the job on more than one occasion but he never left OG. Some of the games he out coached the guy across the field so bad it would almost make you laugh. And to get off point did somebody say Red Franklin did more with less? Coach Franklin is an absolute legend and got to be one of the top dogs in this argument haynesville has almost never done less with more. They always have speed that most small schools can't sniff. There is almost never a time they play a 1a or 2-a team and can't match up talent wise. Not taking anything away from coach franklin he could have took most teams jv and probably beat the varsity. My dad played and coached against him and held him in the highest regard We’ve always been blessed with speed, but rarely do we have the size. Majority of those great 90’s teams the Center and both Guards were around 160-170lb range. What Red Franklin was great at was coaching these average sized players into technicians upfront and whipping DL that have a huge size advantage. Size and strength is something OG has ever done without. I don’t remember seeing an OG team without being huge upfront. They are built almost opposite of Haynesville where we usually have speed everywhere with only a couple big guys, OG has size and strength everywhere with only a couple of speedy guys. Much respect to OG, it’s always a good game when Haynesville and OG lock horns and I agree I think Dalrymple definitely deserves to be in the conversation.
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Post by tigerfan87 on Jun 8, 2018 16:40:05 GMT -6
Yeah but in high school football especially small school speed is by far the most important skill to possess. I would say it trumps size by a large margin,and we had some big teams but we almost never were top 3 on our own class in size and almost never were top 10-15 in speed. But that wasn't a slight at coach Franklin just that I don't think that person had seen many of yalls teams play. And I'll give you yall werent always huge on the o line, but y'all always had linebackers, ends, safeties and skill position guys that were huge for small school. And a recurring theme for me and my dad when we see y'all play is to pick out that prototype haynesville linebacker/end/running back who looks like he should be playing College already lol. I wish we had yalls kind of horse lol. Along with coaching it's the reason why y'all are haynesville. I just think people over estimate how big we are a lot of the times. Last 4-5 years we have had by far the biggest teams in school history. But in the 90's and 80's we had good size but always had bigger teams in our own district much less in the state. Vic on a bunch of occasions beat teams who had signicantly more size and speed than he had. His ability to find schemes and just one or two advantages out of 22 starters was one of things that made him special.
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Post by Southplaq on Jun 9, 2018 19:58:49 GMT -6
In 2013 Karr was nationally ranked and had several college prospects but it didn't help them or Neville against East Jefferson. It didn't help Madison Prep against Sterlington either. You don't need a team loaded with college talent to win a High School State Championship. Speaking on the subject, I can tell u that J.T. Curtis is the one Coach i wouldn't even attempt to hire. I just spoke with J.T., he is devastated. Please reconsider I did too. After I told him what Wildcat said, he's on the verge of quitting coaching football and is considering coaching synchronized swimming.
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Post by Southplaq on Jun 9, 2018 22:17:26 GMT -6
See the post above this one for the answer. The fact that Don Shows is dead (RIP) and others are retired Would leave you to believe that this is a hypothetical wish list. I think you knew that.
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