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Post by mswiggins on Aug 23, 2018 11:52:38 GMT -6
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Post by cenlaman on Aug 23, 2018 12:11:07 GMT -6
The big question is: "Where is the kid's dad coaching now? Is he has at Hahnville? If not, did the family move?"
If neither of those answers is YES then he should be ineligible. Simple as that.
Not sure why Saltaformaggio was suspended. The only reason I can see for that is if there was some inappropriate contact/incentive by the coach in getting the kid to come to Hahnville.
The principal is trying to portray the kid as a victim in order to get leniency, but I can't go along with that. That kid has a dad who is a LHSAA coach and probably has been for a long time and they should know the rules.
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Post by footballluva on Aug 23, 2018 12:35:59 GMT -6
Would the rules be different if he was transferring from Hahnville to Vanderbilt Catholic?
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Post by tocentralhigh on Aug 23, 2018 12:46:15 GMT -6
The big question is: "Where is the kid's dad coaching now? Is he has at Hahnville? If not, did the family move?" If neither of those answers is YES then he should be ineligible. Simple as that. Not sure why Saltaformaggio was suspended. The only reason I can see for that is if there was some inappropriate contact/incentive by the coach in getting the kid to come to Hahnville. The principal is trying to portray the kid as a victim in order to get leniency, but I can't go along with that. That kid has a dad who is a LHSAA coach and probably has been for a long time and they should know the rules. Sounds like Salt got nailed for trying to get Robison's dad a job at Hahnville.
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Post by fanman on Aug 23, 2018 13:11:06 GMT -6
The big question is: "Where is the kid's dad coaching now? Is he has at Hahnville? If not, did the family move?" If neither of those answers is YES then he should be ineligible. Simple as that. Not sure why Saltaformaggio was suspended. The only reason I can see for that is if there was some inappropriate contact/incentive by the coach in getting the kid to come to Hahnville. The principal is trying to portray the kid as a victim in order to get leniency, but I can't go along with that. That kid has a dad who is a LHSAA coach and probably has been for a long time and they should know the rules. Sounds like Salt got nailed for trying to get Robison's dad a job at Hahnville. big time QB must have clouded the vision of several folks
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Post by mt on Aug 23, 2018 13:26:04 GMT -6
*whispers lowly* go with the California rule for transfers and make the kid sit out some games. Not lose his entire season, potential deep playoff run, potential scholarship opportunity. Sucks
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Post by tigerfan87 on Aug 23, 2018 15:04:08 GMT -6
I thought the rule now was that it had to be a head coaches kid to play immediately, assistant coaches kid still sit
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Post by cenlaman on Aug 23, 2018 15:31:05 GMT -6
*whispers lowly* go with the California rule for transfers and make the kid sit out some games. Not lose his entire season, potential deep playoff run, potential scholarship opportunity. Sucks I'm betting the appeal actually gets to this point. He will probably end up getting some of his season back. I don't agree with that. I'm sorry but this kid is good and is being recruited and has a dad who is a long time LHSAA coach. They knew the situation. They knew the rules. They took a chance. They got busted. He should be done!
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Post by mt on Aug 23, 2018 15:49:40 GMT -6
*whispers lowly* go with the California rule for transfers and make the kid sit out some games. Not lose his entire season, potential deep playoff run, potential scholarship opportunity. Sucks I'm betting the appeal actually gets to this point. He will probably end up getting some of his season back. I don't agree with that. I'm sorry but this kid is good and is being recruited and has a dad who is a long time LHSAA coach. They knew the situation. They knew the rules. They took a chance. They got busted. He should be done! Some factors here make it unique -Private School to Public -Father was an employee at the school right? -what’s his new finance situation? Naturally the next thing that will be bought up is where does he stay/residence stuff I know. But what effect does this have on VC at all if he wasn’t going to be there regardless and who’s is being hurt most? Just think there’s better ways to handle this
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Post by btown on Aug 23, 2018 16:02:47 GMT -6
I thought the rule now was that it had to be a head coaches kid to play immediately, assistant coaches kid still sit What if the kids parent was a teacher, can the kid play immediately or sit out? Just asking a question because I have never seen a assistant coach transfer that did not also teach.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 16:41:26 GMT -6
Whoa. Huge blow. Let the kid play where he wants to play. I’m sick of these stone age rules.
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Post by indy on Aug 23, 2018 16:56:08 GMT -6
Whoa. Huge blow. Let the kid play where he wants to play. I’m sick of these stone age rules. There are kids all over the state playing at a school they are not zoned for, either enforce the rule or do away with it. It’s getting stupid.
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Post by oldsouth on Aug 23, 2018 17:16:09 GMT -6
*whispers lowly* go with the California rule for transfers and make the kid sit out some games. Not lose his entire season, potential deep playoff run, potential scholarship opportunity. Sucks I'm betting the appeal actually gets to this point. He will probably end up getting some of his season back. I don't agree with that. I'm sorry but this kid is good and is being recruited and has a dad who is a long time LHSAA coach. They knew the situation. They knew the rules. They took a chance. They got busted. He should be done! They didn’t get “busted”. They were doing interviews with the media about the transfer when it happened. It’s not like they were sneaking around so as not to get “busted”.
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Post by mt on Aug 23, 2018 17:25:34 GMT -6
I'm betting the appeal actually gets to this point. He will probably end up getting some of his season back. I don't agree with that. I'm sorry but this kid is good and is being recruited and has a dad who is a long time LHSAA coach. They knew the situation. They knew the rules. They took a chance. They got busted. He should be done! They didn’t get “busted”. They were doing interviews with the media about the transfer when it happened. It’s not like they were sneaking around so as not to get “busted”. Correct. This has been well known for at least 2-3 months
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Aug 23, 2018 18:01:48 GMT -6
The articles I read said that the father was at Vandebilt but his contract wasn't renewed. The father said back in May that they would be moving to the River Parishes area so he could find new employment. The recruitment part is based on Hahnville coach, whom the father already knew, telling the father about an open basketball coaching position and football assistant position. With the player it's some BS about "when and how he represented himself as a member of Hahnville football team." The Hahnville coach only gets 4 games but the player loses the rest of his High School career? That's just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2018 18:03:41 GMT -6
Whoa. Huge blow. Let the kid play where he wants to play. I’m sick of these stone age rules. There are kids all over the state playing at a school they are not zoned for, either enforce the rule or do away with it. It’s getting stupid. I totally agree.
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Post by tocentralhigh on Aug 23, 2018 18:08:33 GMT -6
Whoa. Huge blow. Let the kid play where he wants to play. I’m sick of these stone age rules. The kid's not the problem in my opinion. The dad shopping the kid for a job is. He never would have been hired or kept on as long at Vandy if his kid wasn't a great athlete, nor would he be hired in St Charles parish if his kid wasn't a great athlete transferring there.
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Post by oldsouth on Aug 23, 2018 18:42:04 GMT -6
Whoa. Huge blow. Let the kid play where he wants to play. I’m sick of these stone age rules. The kid's not the problem in my opinion. The dad shopping the kid for a job is. He never would have been hired or kept on as long at Vandy if his kid wasn't a great athlete, nor would he be hired in St Charles parish if his kid wasn't a great athlete transferring there. By that logic, if the kid is good enough to keep his dad employed then why did they let him go knowing that the son would leave as well. Your argument doesn’t make sense.
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Post by tocentralhigh on Aug 23, 2018 19:21:36 GMT -6
The kid's not the problem in my opinion. The dad shopping the kid for a job is. He never would have been hired or kept on as long at Vandy if his kid wasn't a great athlete, nor would he be hired in St Charles parish if his kid wasn't a great athlete transferring there. By that logic, if the kid is good enough to keep his dad employed then why did they let him go knowing that the son would leave as well. Your argument doesn’t make sense. The dad was a sub 500 basketball coach a tiny Tennessee school and the son was getting ESPN articles written about him because he was the youngest player to ever throw a varsity TD pass. Yeah Vandy sure hired the dad for his coaching ability and not to get his kid . As for why they let him go from Vandy, maybe you can only have so many 3-29 & 6-13 basketball seasons before you have to go. Maybe you just piss off the wrong parent with money, as past Vandy coaches have learned the hard way. Don't know their reasoning but I know he took over a winning program and drove it into the ground, and they hung on as long as they could cause his son is one of the best players to ever come through the school. I'm sure Salt tried to get the dad a basketball coaching spot because you can't pass on a coach that went 9-42 over the past two years, and not because his kid is one of the best QB's in the state. Riiiiiight.
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Post by oldsouth on Aug 23, 2018 19:31:40 GMT -6
By that logic, if the kid is good enough to keep his dad employed then why did they let him go knowing that the son would leave as well. Your argument doesn’t make sense. The dad was a sub 500 basketball coach a tiny Tennessee school and the son was getting ESPN articles written about him because he was the youngest player to ever throw a varsity TD pass. Yeah Vandy sure hired the dad for his coaching ability and not to get his kid . As for why they let him go from Vandy, maybe you can only have so many 3-29 & 6-13 basketball seasons before you have to go. Maybe you just piss off the wrong parent with money, as past Vandy coaches have learned the hard way. Don't know their reasoning but I know he took over a winning program and drove it into the ground, and they hung on as long as they could cause his son is one of the best players to ever come through the school. I'm sure Salt tried to get the dad a basketball coaching spot because you can't pass on a coach that went 9-42 over the past two years, and not because his kid is one of the best QB's in the state. Riiiiiight. You’re contradicting yourself again here but whatever. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I just think the whole situation is weird.
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Post by tocentralhigh on Aug 23, 2018 19:48:54 GMT -6
The dad was a sub 500 basketball coach a tiny Tennessee school and the son was getting ESPN articles written about him because he was the youngest player to ever throw a varsity TD pass. Yeah Vandy sure hired the dad for his coaching ability and not to get his kid . As for why they let him go from Vandy, maybe you can only have so many 3-29 & 6-13 basketball seasons before you have to go. Maybe you just piss off the wrong parent with money, as past Vandy coaches have learned the hard way. Don't know their reasoning but I know he took over a winning program and drove it into the ground, and they hung on as long as they could cause his son is one of the best players to ever come through the school. I'm sure Salt tried to get the dad a basketball coaching spot because you can't pass on a coach that went 9-42 over the past two years, and not because his kid is one of the best QB's in the state. Riiiiiight. You’re contradicting yourself again here but whatever. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I just think the whole situation is weird. What's weird? One of the best Qb's in the state was transferring schools and the head coach of Hahnville was nice enough to "suggest" a job at Hahnville for his dad to help the family out. Nothing to see here. I do feel bad for the kid though. I have no sympathy for the dad or Salt though.
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Post by iknownuthing on Aug 23, 2018 20:00:12 GMT -6
Would the rules be different if he was transferring from Hahnville to Vanderbilt Catholic? No but the punishment would have been more severe.
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Post by GO BIG SAM on Aug 23, 2018 20:48:53 GMT -6
The kid has to be eligible somewhere, right? He lives in Terrebonne High zone. Has an apartment in Luling. Things here are just not quite right. We have 2 transfers this year playing from Washington-Marion, one is a commit to Yale already. The other is getting offers from everywhere. Sam Hosuton will take him! But we are going with a freshman QB this year!!
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Post by mt on Aug 23, 2018 20:53:41 GMT -6
The kid has to be eligible somewhere, right? He lives in Terrebonne High zone. Has an apartment in Luling. Things here are just not quite right. We have 2 transfers this year playing from Washington-Marion, one is a commit to Yale already. The other is getting offers from everywhere. Sam Hosuton will take him! But we are going with a freshman QB this year!! I believe there’s more to this. Not sure what but there’s more
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Post by django on Aug 23, 2018 22:23:12 GMT -6
The dad was a sub 500 basketball coach a tiny Tennessee school and the son was getting ESPN articles written about him because he was the youngest player to ever throw a varsity TD pass. Yeah Vandy sure hired the dad for his coaching ability and not to get his kid . As for why they let him go from Vandy, maybe you can only have so many 3-29 & 6-13 basketball seasons before you have to go. Maybe you just piss off the wrong parent with money, as past Vandy coaches have learned the hard way. Don't know their reasoning but I know he took over a winning program and drove it into the ground, and they hung on as long as they could cause his son is one of the best players to ever come through the school. I'm sure Salt tried to get the dad a basketball coaching spot because you can't pass on a coach that went 9-42 over the past two years, and not because his kid is one of the best QB's in the state. Riiiiiight. You’re contradicting yourself again here but whatever. I don’t have a dog in this fight, I just think the whole situation is weird. It’s not illegal to fire a coach & cut your losses. It’s not illegal to take the collateral damage of losing a marquee player do to firing said coach. It IS, however, illegal to shop one’s kid around for athletic purposes. It IS illegal to make inappropriate contact with a high school athlete or his parents. It IS illegal to offer a parent a job to get a child(athlete). That’s the difference
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