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Post by CrusadingLions on Dec 13, 2018 12:55:01 GMT -6
In Texas if you are private and play up you must play 6A. Wouldn’t work in LA having smaller schools line up against the 5A powers.
My opinion is that 5A schools can easily compete with D1 and Class A schools can easily compete with D IV. Problem lies with 2A - 4A
Obviously there are holes in this and it would have to be tweaked. My thought was to take the middle 32 teams, that play for district honors, and separate them. D1 schools are back in 5A, D IV are back with 1A
Newly formed D1 and D2 now each have 16 team brackets, which is better than an 8 or less bracket with multiple playoff games lost
D1 and D 2 would look like this
D1 1. St Paul’s 1463 2. McKinley 1152 3. Scotlandville 1148 4. St Thomas More 971 5. Teurlings Cath 749 6. Vanderbilt Catholic 746 7. Lusher 675 8. ED White 629 9. St. Louis 588 10. Hannan 534 11.St Michael 569 12. De La Salle 488 13. Parkview Baptist 483 14. U High 478 15. Evangel 270 16. Haynes 514
D 2
1. Loyola 420 2. St Charles 391 3. Episcopal 389 4. Newman 383 5. CHSNI 370 6. Notre Dame 368 7. Menard 355 8. LCA 321 9. Dunham 300 10. Ascension Episcopal 297 11. Pope John Paul 298 12. St Thomas Aq 294 13. Northlake 274 14. Houma Christian 257 15. Country Day 249 16. Calvary 242
With 7 title games you could eliminate that 12:00 games on Thursday and Friday. Also appeased the 2A and 3A public school principals who seem to be most behind the split.
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Post by indy on Dec 13, 2018 19:19:41 GMT -6
My suggestion from almost ten years ago. Keep 5 divisions. If you are a private school you at the least must play 3A. Can move up as high as you wanted. This would saturate the numbers for 1A and 2A to be almost all rual. You basically get the Rual / Metro concept which makes a lot of sense in my opinion. So St Ed’s, Hanson, etc should play up to 3A? How is that a solution?
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Post by randomvoice on Dec 13, 2018 20:07:24 GMT -6
My suggestion from almost ten years ago. Keep 5 divisions. If you are a private school you at the least must play 3A. Can move up as high as you wanted. This would saturate the numbers for 1A and 2A to be almost all rual. You basically get the Rual / Metro concept which makes a lot of sense in my opinion. So St Ed’s, Hanson, etc should play up to 3A? How is that a solution? It's a lame solution....... Your IP was matched with: incognito74Keep it to one user account please, you know who you are.
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Post by CrusadingLions on Dec 13, 2018 20:26:35 GMT -6
My suggestion from almost ten years ago. Keep 5 divisions. If you are a private school you at the least must play 3A. Can move up as high as you wanted. This would saturate the numbers for 1A and 2A to be almost all rual. You basically get the Rual / Metro concept which makes a lot of sense in my opinion. I dont mind that idea. My only concern with it is having smaller 1A private schools like Hanson, Ascension Christian playing against the bigger 3A schools. I’d like these smaller community private schools to be protected.
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Post by knightly80 on Dec 13, 2018 20:38:51 GMT -6
My suggestion from almost ten years ago. Keep 5 divisions. If you are a private school you at the least must play 3A. Can move up as high as you wanted. This would saturate the numbers for 1A and 2A to be almost all rual. You basically get the Rual / Metro concept which makes a lot of sense in my opinion. How can you tell Highland Baptist and Ascension Christian to go play 3A against UHigh and Parkview?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2018 23:07:34 GMT -6
My suggestion from almost ten years ago. Keep 5 divisions. If you are a private school you at the least must play 3A. Can move up as high as you wanted. This would saturate the numbers for 1A and 2A to be almost all rual. You basically get the Rual / Metro concept which makes a lot of sense in my opinion. How can you tell Highland Baptist and Ascension Christian to go play 3A against UHigh and Parkview? Lab plays UHigh and Parkview every year 🤷♂️
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Post by knightly80 on Dec 13, 2018 23:11:06 GMT -6
How can you tell Highland Baptist and Ascension Christian to go play 3A against UHigh and Parkview? Lab plays UHigh and Parkview every year 🤷♂️ JKLee are you really comparing that?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2018 0:28:45 GMT -6
Lab plays UHigh and Parkview every year 🤷♂️ JKLee are you really comparing that? 😂😂😂😂😂😂 just being petty. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 14, 2018 1:18:19 GMT -6
the problem with keeping private schools in the lowest classes is that the wrong administration can choose to acquire kids who will skew the school's talent level to much more than it should be for the enrollment. the reason we have select schools, is because they can be as good as they choose to be
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Post by indy on Dec 14, 2018 8:28:39 GMT -6
So St Ed’s, Hanson, etc should play up to 3A? How is that a solution? Hanson playing West St Mary and Franklin is not a mismatch in my opinion. I've seen Hanson beat both in JV (WSM and Franklin were 3A at the time). Always depends on the year. Someone mentioned U-High and Parkview Baptist, if this was California U-High is moved up a class next year. The association bumps teams that win state and show a consistent pattern of winning. In the same way you can be bumped up, you can be bumped down by the association or request. I would implement this rule in a heart beat. But comparing the best team to the worst team in a class can be done in any format. You have to realize with only 5 championships again some of these teams that are getting credit for being good would have never even made it to the dome without the split. If we are for 9 championships, that is a different debate and isn't relevant to my suggestion. The MO of the split was unfairness in 2A due to JC and E. Your plan has the same unfairness if not worse to small 1A Private schools. The LHSAA is supposed to be for all schools benifit. We need to quit saying public/ private, select/ not select and say student athletes when trying to solve problems. Zones are obviously no longer an issue.
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Post by CrusadingLions on Dec 14, 2018 8:47:00 GMT -6
The MO of the split was unfairness in 2A due to JC and E. Your plan has the same unfairness if not worse to small 1A Private schools. The LHSAA is supposed to be for all schools benifit. We need to quit saying public/ private, select/ not select and say student athletes when trying to solve problems. Zones are obviously no longer an issue. How is it not fair? You aren't explaining why at all. You gave one example and I showed you an example where that exact school did compete with 3A public schools. JC and Evangel would play 5A period with my rules. Evangels request to play 4A would have been denied after going undefeated in district and going toe to toe with JC in the semis until JC pulled away. As my idea expanded, if there was a situation where a private school is losing every game in district then we would consider dropping that school to 2A. But I promise this would be rare. Just because a school is small, does not mean it can no compete. I've seen CC beat 3A Franklin a very small private school in Morgan City. We see VC beat Erath and everyone else in the vermilion parishes. 3A would be the standard for the lowest classification for private schools. Every 2 years we would look at the results and reclassify based on them which as mentioned could lead to a terrible small private school being dropped down to 2A. The smaller private schools could not compete in 3A on a weekly basis. Put Ascension Christian against Parkview, Brusly, U High and West Feliciana and we risk serious injury. Just don’t have the size to compete with those schools. Same with most of the smaller private schools. I know people like to say “just go get better kids” but it isn’t that easy.
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Post by blake2448 on Dec 14, 2018 8:48:21 GMT -6
The biggest problem is that there are so many more public school votes than private. The public schools will get their way, however they want it to be will be what the prevailing vote is.
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Post by CrusadingLions on Dec 14, 2018 8:55:37 GMT -6
Half those schools wouldn't be in 3A. And we are only talking district, not every week. I get that. I’m not all opposed to the idea. Not alll that different than mine. My only concern is that the smaller private schools really don’t have the numbers or athletes to compete with 3A schools, even just in district play. I do believe there is a halfway point between both our ideas that would work.
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