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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 13, 2018 19:40:54 GMT -6
L. W. Higgins has a strong athletics tradition in prep football. Wayne Meyers compiled a 112–76 record in 18 seasons as Higgins coach during which time the Hurricanes won five district championships and advanced to the state playoffs 11 times during his final 14 seasons. Wayne Meyers directed the Hurricanes to 11 winning seasons that included two advances to the state quarterfinals in 2008 and 2003 and seven regional playoff appearances. The Hurricanes only had four losing seasons under Meyers with those coming in his first and final two seasons. Higgins was 2-8 and 3-5 the past two seasons while not qualifying for the state playoffs. Higgins’ 10 victories in 2010 is another school record set on under Meyers’ tenure. That 10–2 team also won the last of Meyers’ five district championships. On November 7, 2013, Wayne Meyers resigned as L. W. Higgins head football coach at the request of Principal David Lewis.[3][4] Under Wayne Meyers' leadership at Higgins, Mark Schroeder (offensive coordinator) and Stephen Meyers (defensive coordinator) were the longest tenured offensive and defensive coordinators in Jefferson Parish.[5] On December 27, 2013, Principal David Lewis hired Craig Laborde as the new head football coach for L. W. Higgins high school. Laborde, 49, replaced Wayne Meyers, the most successful football coach in the 32-year history of the Higgins program. Meyers resigned as coach at the request of Lewis on November 7 following a 2-8 season. Laborde brings four years of head coaching experience from three separate schools and seven years of coaching experience overall to his new post. He served nearly 15 years working in law enforcement as a Louisiana State Police Trooper before moving into education and coaching as the first head football coach at Miller-McCoy Academy in 2007. “I think he is outstanding,’’ Principal David Lewis said of the Marrero school’s new coach. “He did a phenomenal job in the interview process. He stood out above all of the other candidates. He has a great plan in place and that was the main thing I was looking for. I think he’ll do a great job at Higgins.[6] Skyler Green, a former standout player for former Head Coach Wayne Meyers and star Louisiana State University wide receiver, is listed as an assistant offensive football coach under Craig Laborde. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.W._Higgins_High_School
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 13, 2018 19:48:44 GMT -6
L. W. Higgins has a strong athletics tradition in prep football. Wayne Meyers compiled a 112–76 record in 18 seasons as Higgins coach during which time the Hurricanes won five district championships and advanced to the state playoffs 11 times during his final 14 seasons. Wayne Meyers directed the Hurricanes to 11 winning seasons that included two advances to the state quarterfinals in 2008 and 2003 and seven regional playoff appearances. The Hurricanes only had four losing seasons under Meyers with those coming in his first and final two seasons. Higgins was 2-8 and 3-5 the past two seasons while not qualifying for the state playoffs. Higgins’ 10 victories in 2010 is another school record set on under Meyers’ tenure. That 10–2 team also won the last of Meyers’ five district championships. On November 7, 2013, Wayne Meyers resigned as L. W. Higgins head football coach at the request of Principal David Lewis.[3][4] Under Wayne Meyers' leadership at Higgins, Mark Schroeder (offensive coordinator) and Stephen Meyers (defensive coordinator) were the longest tenured offensive and defensive coordinators in Jefferson Parish.[5] On December 27, 2013, Principal David Lewis hired Craig Laborde as the new head football coach for L. W. Higgins high school. Laborde, 49, replaced Wayne Meyers, the most successful football coach in the 32-year history of the Higgins program. Meyers resigned as coach at the request of Lewis on November 7 following a 2-8 season. Laborde brings four years of head coaching experience from three separate schools and seven years of coaching experience overall to his new post. He served nearly 15 years working in law enforcement as a Louisiana State Police Trooper before moving into education and coaching as the first head football coach at Miller-McCoy Academy in 2007. “I think he is outstanding,’’ Principal David Lewis said of the Marrero school’s new coach. “He did a phenomenal job in the interview process. He stood out above all of the other candidates. He has a great plan in place and that was the main thing I was looking for. I think he’ll do a great job at Higgins.[6] Skyler Green, a former standout player for former Head Coach Wayne Meyers and star Louisiana State University wide receiver, is listed as an assistant offensive football coach under Craig Laborde. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/L.W._Higgins_High_School this article is like 5 years old. Now Higgins is a game I don't even go to at home. The only decent program they have now is baseball.
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Post by brprepfan on Dec 13, 2018 22:04:11 GMT -6
I saw Higgins play Port Allen in 2015 and 2016. That was not a good 5A team. They split the "series" with Port Allen and those were not good Port Allen teams. Does Higgins have a realistic chance to be good? I don't think so.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 13, 2018 22:17:34 GMT -6
I saw Higgins play Port Allen in 2015 and 2016. That was not a good 5A team. They split the "series" with Port Allen and those were not good Port Allen teams. Does Higgins have a realistic chance to be good? I don't think so. they were for a while though... it's mostly the same type of kids that go to John Ehret. notice when they got bad was when Ehret got good. that 2010 team in the OP beat us in a knockdown drag out brawl 13-10 for that district championship
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 14, 2018 10:49:13 GMT -6
I saw Higgins play Port Allen in 2015 and 2016. That was not a good 5A team. They split the "series" -notice when they got bad was when Ehret got good. that 2010 team in the OP beat us in a knockdown drag out brawl 13-10 for that district championship But now Cox is on solid footing with LeMothe. Ehret with Scott may remain on top but it will be different without Lambert grabbing all the players as before. Who really suffers........West Jeff. Especially if Higgins keeps the athletes that the year previously were playing at Grace King
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 14, 2018 11:30:59 GMT -6
But now Cox is on solid footing with LeMothe. Ehret with Scott may remain on top but it will be different without Lambert grabbing all the players as before. Who really suffers........West Jeff. Especially if Higgins keeps the athletes that the year previously were playing at Grace King honestly it will be John Ehret and the seven dwarves... At least in football
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 17, 2018 21:28:56 GMT -6
Had a couple of people on the Eastbank pass on that guy from westbank who coached at Helen Cox for Willie Brooks (current Riverdale head coach) and is currently working on EB is interested. Would be a lateral move-would remain in 5A.
Kenny Bush had low numbers the first two years toward end of each season. Sources also said that King & Higgins had a situation involving student athletes resolved by the thier ADs. Apparently students who resided in Higgins district were playing at King. However the students returned Higgins after one year.
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 18, 2018 7:56:07 GMT -6
Higgins and West Jeff will never ever ever ever have good football programs again. They just don’t have the players. Is simple as that. You can take any coach in Louisiana and make them the head coach and Higgins will still have a losing season. They can’t compete with Karr and Ehret when it comes to getting football players. If the good football players in Higgins’ district aren’t going to Karr or Ehret already, then you can’t bet your candy arse that they are at one of the private schools on the Eastbank of Orleans and Jefferson Parish. Most of the starters that make up teams like Higgins and West Jeff are players who would be backups, at best, at schools like Karr, Ehret, Walker, Etc
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Post by mt on Dec 18, 2018 10:55:07 GMT -6
Higgins has two college ball players on that team right now. Unfortunately that’s not enough and they aren’t linemans
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 18, 2018 13:19:08 GMT -6
Higgins and West Jeff will never ever ever ever have good football programs again. They just don’t have the players. Is simple as that. You can take any coach in Louisiana and make them the head coach and Higgins will still have a losing season. They can’t compete with Karr and Ehret when it comes to getting football players. If the good football players in Higgins’ district aren’t going to Karr or Ehret already, then you can’t bet your candy arse that they are at one of the private schools on the Eastbank of Orleans and Jefferson Parish. Most of the starters that make up teams like Higgins and West Jeff are players who would be backups, at best, at schools like Karr, Ehret, Walker, Etc What abt Chalmette and Belle Chasse? They dont have nowhere near the talent if Ehret/Karr/Landry but they winning some games lately. Shaw obviously aint getting no recruits would you agree?
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 18, 2018 13:28:10 GMT -6
Rate thess teams in order from best to worst:
Higgins Grace King Riverdale Bonnabel East Jefferson West Jefferson H Cox Shaw (Private) Thomas Jefferson Kenner Disc
Outside of Ehret, Belle Chasse, Karr, Landry, Easton, Curtis (Private), De La Salle, Bro Martin, Jesuit, Carver etc.... Westbank/Eastbank wise
Helen Cox and Riverdale probably the two best
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 18, 2018 15:57:31 GMT -6
Higgins and West Jeff will never ever ever ever have good football programs again. They just don’t have the players. Is simple as that. You can take any coach in Louisiana and make them the head coach and Higgins will still have a losing season. They can’t compete with Karr and Ehret when it comes to getting football players. If the good football players in Higgins’ district aren’t going to Karr or Ehret already, then you can’t bet your candy arse that they are at one of the private schools on the Eastbank of Orleans and Jefferson Parish. Most of the starters that make up teams like Higgins and West Jeff are players who would be backups, at best, at schools like Karr, Ehret, Walker, Etc What abt Chalmette and Belle Chasse? They dont have nowhere near the talent if Ehret/Karr/Landry but they winning some games lately. Shaw obviously aint getting no recruits would you agree? we're winning bc we have damn near 2,000 kids now and the core of our coaching staff has been here for a decade or more now. Ehret has nearly 2,000 if not more, and the rest of the district now is close to the 4A/5A cutoff.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 18, 2018 16:09:40 GMT -6
Rate thess teams in order from best to worst: Higgins Grace King Riverdale Bonnabel East Jefferson West Jefferson H Cox Shaw (Private) Thomas Jefferson Kenner Disc (Ehret is above all these teams, but might be falling back a bit) 1. Shaw- on the way up, don't let the record fool you 2. Helen Cox- got the old coach from OPW 3. EJ- they still have coaches from the state championship staff there 4. Riverdale- got the old Helen Cox coach and has produced players recently (Chalmette will be between 3 and 6 next year) 5. West Jeff- their talent isn't as bad as some say 6. Bonnabel- we'll see if they stay on the way up 7. Thomas Jefferson- know Coach Kelly, he's a decent coach 8. Higgins- starting over again (Fisher and Haynes go here) 9. Kenner Discovery- lets see what they got 10. Grace King- shame bc they had momentum after they beat Higgins and Bonnabel a few years ago. Gotta keep coaches
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 18, 2018 21:59:31 GMT -6
Rate thess teams in order from best to worst: Higgins Grace King Riverdale Bonnabel East Jefferson West Jefferson H Cox Shaw (Private) Thomas Jefferson Kenner Disc (Ehret is above all these teams, but might be falling back a bit) 1. Shaw- on the way up, don't let the record fool you 2. Helen Cox- got the old coach from OPW 3. EJ- they still have coaches from the state championship staff there 4. Riverdale- got the old Helen Cox coach and has produced players recently (Chalmette will be between 3 and 6 next year) 5. West Jeff- their talent isn't as bad as some say 6. Bonnabel- we'll see if they stay on the way up 7. Thomas Jefferson- know Coach Kelly, he's a decent coach 8. Higgins- starting over again (Fisher and Haynes go here) 9. Kenner Discovery- lets see what they got 10. Grace King- shame bc they had momentum after they beat Higgins and Bonnabel a few years ago. Gotta keep coaches Fisher Haynes Thomas Jeff Kenner Disc Are all together. TJ is not getting the players is used to get 3-4 yrs ago. Kelly can get kids in from Ruppel but its all rebuilding--this yr TJ went to a hybrid Wing-T. His best players before this past year were all transfers from other Westbank schools Fisher is interesting to he nice. Haynes is the same as TJ. Stuart Bott's (ole Riverdale Coach that Salt reported to LHSSA) son is the QB, but Longo lost alot of experienced players and is in a rebuild. Staff change over is ongoing also. Kenner Discovery will have new facilities in another year. Plus on-campus middle school feeder. Bonnabel seems to be the only one who can score consistently out of West Jeff-QB Wallace was pretty good. East Jeff-stock way down. Belle Chasse is better running team than EJ. Grace King-has only lost one coach and added one new coach. Bonnabel had more WRs in top stats than King and EJ by end of year. Maybe its because there coach is offensive guy. EJ like to run the ball more Y'all(Chalmette) had ole Riverdale coach at Chalmette.....Willie Brooks has the same players that went 1-9 2 yrs in a row for Coach B that coached LBers at Chalmette yr before last. Helen Cox is the real turn around. Shaw is terrible. Shaw played KIPP Renaissance at Chalmette for Jamboree this year and only scored 13 to win over a KIPP team that went 3-7 and lost division to a Wright team by score of 24-11. That means that Shaw would be middle of the road in Wright's district.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 19, 2018 2:32:46 GMT -6
i think Shaw would have won that 3A district comfortably...
was that coach B you're talking about named Brumfield?
these are calpreps state rankings over a 5 year sample size for all the teams in this thread. number in parentheses is 2018 state ranking
John Ehret #17 (13) Chalmette #66 (86) Shaw #83 (102) West Jefferson #112 (125) East Jefferson #125 (156) Helen Cox #143 (74) Higgins #163 (220) Bonnabel #177 (165) Riverdale #185 (149) Thomas Jefferson #246 (277) Haynes #252 (271) Grace King #254 (259) Fisher #281 (293)
one thing we haven't mentioned yet is the effect that Kenner Discovery and the restarted Crescent City program will have on the talent pool... especially Crescent City if their basketball program is any indication.
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Post by footballfanatic on Dec 19, 2018 8:40:42 GMT -6
Rate thess teams in order from best to worst: Higgins Grace King Riverdale Bonnabel East Jefferson West Jefferson H Cox Shaw (Private) Thomas Jefferson Kenner Disc (Ehret is above all these teams, but might be falling back a bit) 1. Shaw- on the way up, don't let the record fool you 2. Helen Cox- got the old coach from OPW 3. EJ- they still have coaches from the state championship staff there 4. Riverdale- got the old Helen Cox coach and has produced players recently (Chalmette will be between 3 and 6 next year) 5. West Jeff- their talent isn't as bad as some say 6. Bonnabel- we'll see if they stay on the way up 7. Thomas Jefferson- know Coach Kelly, he's a decent coach 8. Higgins- starting over again (Fisher and Haynes go here) 9. Kenner Discovery- lets see what they got 10. Grace King- shame bc they had momentum after they beat Higgins and Bonnabel a few years ago. Gotta keep coaches
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Post by footballfanatic on Dec 19, 2018 9:23:15 GMT -6
Ive kept up with alot of theses teams closely this year especially the Jefferson parish teams and here is my take on the future of these programs:
Shaw- Connors has the program heading in the right direction. Not as much talent as past teams at Shaw but play with a little attitude and "swag" the move will help them I believe.
Helen Cox- Will see steady improvement
Ej- took a huge dive last year after a playoff appearance in 2017.Much like many Ej teams will be hot and cold over the next few years. Had some staff changed but Allelo remains loyal and staff works hard
Riverdale- graduating a ton from a successful 2018 season. May take a little dip this year with district change but Brooks and staff are pushing for sure
West Jeff- More talented than people think. But will be hard to ever take that next step unless their "loaded" with talent.
Bonnabel- Continued to grow and improve last year with Bonnafons after the tone was set by Daryl Thomas and staff before leaving. Has a very underrated, extremely talented QB who is a senior this year. If they were gonna make a move this would be the year to do it as they will graduate alot of their talent after the 2019 season and will enter into another rebuilding mode.
TJ- Kelly is a solid coach who finds ways to win some games despite having limited talent. New district could help them but they will have somewhat of a rebuild this year
Higgins- Not a very attractive job. Whatever coach takes over will have there work cut out for them. Every year they have one or two talented kids but once that threats taken away there is not much left.Id consider them at the bottom of this list until changes are made
Kenner Discovery- This team is one I feel will be the surprise of 2019. I live in Kenner so I happen to catch a few games and a practice or two. There coaches really get after it which doesn't surprise me as their head coach Sprunk is a Curtis guy and his assistants look like they really know what they are doing. I only noticed about 4 coaches however They are very organized for a start up program. Had no seniors last year so the entire team is returning. Have some decent size and young talent. WIll play in district with Haynes and TJ and will play Fisher this season according to some Fisher assistants.
Grace King- Where to start? Coach Holmes cant keep players much less talent. Things seemed on the up in 2017 but came crashing down on 2018 after a one win season. Much Like Higgins until things are changed i see them towards the bottom
If I had to rank them for next year I would as follows:
Shaw Helen Cox Riverdale West Jeff East Jeff Bonnabel Kenner Discovery Thomas Jeff Higgins King
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 19, 2018 12:08:29 GMT -6
i think Shaw would have won that 3A district comfortably... was that coach B you're talking about named Brumfield? these are calpreps state rankings over a 5 year sample size for all the teams in this thread. number in parentheses is 2018 state ranking John Ehret #17 (13) Chalmette #66 (86) Shaw #83 (102) West Jefferson #112 (125) East Jefferson #125 (156) Helen Cox #143 (74) Higgins #163 (220) Bonnabel #177 (165) Riverdale #185 (149) Thomas Jefferson #246 (277) Haynes #252 (271) Grace King #254 (259) Fisher #281 (293) one thing we haven't mentioned yet is the effect that Kenner Discovery and the restarted Crescent City program will have on the talent pool... especially Crescent City if their basketball program is any indication. Coach B from Arkansas. Yeah Brumfield. What happened to him over at Chalmette? Brooks has the same players he had for two 1-9 seasons. The first year he brought another coach from Arkansas but the guy left the 2nd year to go back to a private school I was told by a guy who worked with them but was with Dukes at Sci Academy. Also Bonnafons was still teaching at the school Coach B first yr (he was OC for Brooks at H Cox his last yr teaching at Riverdale then got the Pope John Paul job on Northshore). Sh@w might have with that running game. Cohen did well running single wing in that district.
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 19, 2018 12:24:07 GMT -6
Ive kept up with alot of theses teams closely this year especially the Jefferson parish teams and here is my take on the future of these programs: Shaw- Connors has the program heading in the right direction. Not as much talent as past teams at Shaw but play with a little attitude and "swag" the move will help them I believe. Helen Cox- Will see steady improvement Ej- took a huge dive last year after a playoff appearance in 2017.Much like many Ej teams will be hot and cold over the next few years. Had some staff changed but Allelo remains loyal and staff works hard Riverdale- graduating a ton from a successful 2018 season. May take a little dip this year with district change but Brooks and staff are pushing for sure West Jeff- More talented than people think. But will be hard to ever take that next step unless their "loaded" with talent. Bonnabel- Continued to grow and improve last year with Bonnafons after the tone was set by Daryl Thomas and staff before leaving. Has a very underrated, extremely talented QB who is a senior this year. If they were gonna make a move this would be the year to do it as they will graduate alot of their talent after the 2019 season and will enter into another rebuilding mode. TJ- Kelly is a solid coach who finds ways to win some games despite having limited talent. New district could help them but they will have somewhat of a rebuild this year Higgins- Not a very attractive job. Whatever coach takes over will have there work cut out for them. Every year they have one or two talented kids but once that threats taken away there is not much left.Id consider them at the bottom of this list until changes are made Kenner Discovery- This team is one I feel will be the surprise of 2019. I live in Kenner so I happen to catch a few games and a practice or two. There coaches really get after it which doesn't surprise me as their head coach Sprunk is a Curtis guy and his assistants look like they really know what they are doing. I only noticed about 4 coaches however They are very organized for a start up program. Had no seniors last year so the entire team is returning. Have some decent size and young talent. WIll play in district with Haynes and TJ and will play Fisher this season according to some Fisher assistants. Grace King- Where to start? Coach Holmes cant keep players much less talent. Things seemed on the up in 2017 but came crashing down on 2018 after a one win season. Much Like Higgins until things are changed i see them towards the bottom If I had to rank them for next year I would as follows: Shaw Helen Cox Riverdale West Jeff East Jeff Bonnabel Kenner Discovery Thomas Jeff Higgins King Sh@w's 2018 schedule this year look at it.... it was rough sledding.Sh@w got blown out alot. They beat Vandy Cath and somebody else. 2 wins. Connors may have it heading i the right dorection. But 5-5 is not a new brand of excellence. 5-5 this year for Connors would be great. Fanatic with Grace Kung its not the head coach or his staff but the school admin I'm told by a number of sources in and around the school. I have been told that the AD is new and works closely with the Principal. However the Principal is disconnected from the teaching faculty and continues to have constant turnover with faculty in core four areas of Math, English, Science. This all in addition to a large Hispanic student population say over 60%. King population is almost 1350 but 60% Spanish kids. This inturn would have an effect on any players eligibility correct? Bryant Holmes was integral to the success of Willie Brooks early at Helen Cox and helped Rogers also at Bonnabel keep his job for awhile. Fanantic didnt Sprunk leave King for head job at KD? Sprunk will eventually eclipse both Riverdale and Bonnabel b/c he will have a MS feeder (with eligible kids) and new facilities on campus in abt one year. Where did Daryl Thomas end up? The head guy at Bonnabel before Bonnafons left Ehret under Scott to take job.
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Post by swampstop1 on Dec 19, 2018 15:31:21 GMT -6
Agree on just about everything you have here Shiver. I dont think shaw was gonna be a powerhouse but think hes doing the right things to get the program where it needs to be. As far as King you are absolutely 100 percent correct! Holmes is a very solid coach. I dont think its his fault at all. The blame strictly lies on the admin's shoulders. The disconnect is unbelievable. Sprunk was at Bonnabel last year under Thomas. Thomas is now a defensive assistant at Salmen close to his home.
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Post by footballfanatic on Dec 19, 2018 15:35:00 GMT -6
Shiver I think we are on the same page with Shaw.As far as GK what I meant by change was from the top ( admin ). Believe Holmes is a good coach but hands are tied there. Sprunk left from Bonnabel under Thomas. I agree with you on Sprunk. You can tell the passion and knowledge the guy has from watching one game or practice. They get after it!Shiver I think we are on the same page with Shaw.As far as GK what I meant by change was from the top ( admin ). Believe Holmes is a good coach but hands are tied there. Sprunk left from Bonnabel under Thomas. I agree with you on Sprunk. You can tell the passion and knowledge the guy has from watching one game or practice. They get after it!
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Dec 19, 2018 18:32:37 GMT -6
Shiver I think we are on the same page with Shaw.As far as GK what I meant by change was from the top ( admin ). Believe Holmes is a good coach but hands are tied there. Sprunk left from Bonnabel under Thomas. I agree with you on Sprunk. You can tell the passion and knowledge the guy has from watching one game or practice. They get after it!Shiver I think we are on the same page with Shaw.As far as GK what I meant by change was from the top ( admin ). Believe Holmes is a good coach but hands are tied there. Sprunk left from Bonnabel under Thomas. I agree with you on Sprunk. You can tell the passion and knowledge the guy has from watching one game or practice. They get after it! I agree with you. Connors has had to turn alot around but the talent dropped off in a major way for Shaw. No doubt Connors is quality. His staff has two former head coaches in former Hahnville head Valdin and the OC Weins. We are in agreement abt King too! The only real holdovers at King are the men's bball and the wrestling coach. The AD's background is girls soccer. KD will be the nail in the coffin for some of the Eastbank public schools. The funny thing is KD just purchased another elementary or middle school location to add capacity this year. KD wont loose middle school kids to the EB privates b/c the upper school facilities will be new and cutting edge (my emphasis here is the classrooms, science labs and STEM programs).
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Post by footballfanatic on Dec 20, 2018 9:52:23 GMT -6
Yep! I think Connors just needs time to get that talent back in there. There is plenty to go around on the westbank . As far as KD apparently the new campus is going to be off loyola( main road in Kenner) so its gonna be hard to look at this brand new state of the art building and not want to be a part of that. It should be interesting to watch that school and program grow.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Dec 20, 2018 14:47:42 GMT -6
Yep! I think Connors just needs time to get that talent back in there. There is plenty to go around on the westbank . As far as KD apparently the new campus is going to be off loyola( main road in Kenner) so its gonna be hard to look at this brand new state of the art building and not want to be a part of that. It should be interesting to watch that school and program grow. the question i would have about kenner discovery, is what will their academic requirements be like? they start off as non-select, but i wonder if that changes one day if they have to limit whom they accept due to space. i wonder if they'll be more like an open-enrollment charter or like Haynes or Thomas Jefferson.
Haynes and TJ get a raw deal bc they're in select but can't skew their requirements toward athletes
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Post by 769@Nastyalignment on Feb 13, 2019 18:53:35 GMT -6
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