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Post by Rick James on Apr 8, 2019 7:47:34 GMT -6
Someone updates us on what went on when it wraps up please! Could be very interesting.
Will a vote for a full split take place?
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Post by scholastic1 on Apr 13, 2019 14:47:19 GMT -6
No vote for split. This meeting was in response to Mr. Bonnie sending an email to the principals that basically stated the private schools would get no support from the LHSAA in their championship games. There is still a lot of work to do.
Since the LHSAA has taken the stance to provide no assistance the question remains who will negotiate for the private schools. They do not have an official organization to sign contracts with any venue. I find this interesting that Bonnie took this stance because the entire association voted for the split and now Bonine is saying they want nothing to do with the private schools. Maybe he should be let go and find someone willing to provide solutions rather than add to the problem. He makes too much money to only represent 75% of the association.
Just a thought
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Post by btown on Apr 14, 2019 10:47:33 GMT -6
No vote for split. This meeting was in response to Mr. Bonnie sending an email to the principals that basically stated the private schools would get no support from the LHSAA in their championship games. There is still a lot of work to do. Since the LHSAA has taken the stance to provide no assistance the question remains who will negotiate for the private schools. They do not have an official organization to sign contracts with any venue. I find this interesting that Bonnie took this stance because the entire association voted for the split and now Bonine is saying they want nothing to do with the private schools. Maybe he should be let go and find someone willing to provide solutions rather than add to the problem. He makes too much money to only represent 75% of the association. Just a thought This is crazy, he supports the split but not the split of championship games?
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Post by Raven on Apr 15, 2019 9:02:35 GMT -6
Hmmm.. Not sure how I feel about this. On one hand, if the LHSAA is not involved it would mean more autonomy for private schools and (theoretically) they would not need to share any proceeds with the LHSAA.
On the other hand, private schools currently have no organization set up to handle the logistics of creating championship events.
The situation could get stickier if such an organization were to be created. Would that lead us one step closer to a complete athletic split? Or even as far as creating a separate association?
If that were to happen, what would be the fate of the public schools who are considered "select"? Could they freely move between associations if their enrollment fluctuated between the 2%5 cutoff for out-of-zone students?
I know we don't really have the answers for these questions. Just wondering what the possible consequences might be.
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Post by bigred on Apr 16, 2019 12:48:51 GMT -6
Bonehead is a f@$*\/: joke! Pretty sure the split will never be dissolved but hell, can we at least try the rural/metro split??? Anything other than what we have now.
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Post by indy on Apr 17, 2019 12:19:57 GMT -6
glad to see y'all can enjoy oppression and cheating kids!
what's next? Do want to literally take candy from a baby?
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Post by scholastic1 on Apr 19, 2019 14:16:24 GMT -6
Bonine supports whatever group he is in front of. Seen him with private schools tell them he wants everyone back together. The bottom line is the private schools have only 1 representative on the eclxecutive council and they depend on Bonine for support and he gives none. He acts like a 2 year old when things do not go his way and now doesn’t want anything to do with the split the of the championships.
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Post by indy on Apr 19, 2019 17:10:21 GMT -6
Let the LHSAA stay out it. If Catholic and ND played the finals at home or a neutral site the last two years we would have each easily pocketed $80k instead of losing money.
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Post by retired on Apr 20, 2019 8:36:54 GMT -6
Let the LHSAA stay out it. If Catholic and ND played the finals at home or a neutral site the last two years we would have each easily pocketed $80k instead of losing money. I don't know if I agree with your math, but the underlying concept is definitely correct. Catholic NI and ND almost assuredly would have been better off financially had they not participated in the Superdome Classic according to the figures given in news report. Post split, almost all schools (except possibly the smallest schools) would do "better" on their own. The event is just not a windfall post-split. That said, if the select schools have their own venues, and the formal governing body is not involved in the situation even though schools are still members of said body...is this the start of a formal split from the association? Why stay?
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Post by indy on Apr 20, 2019 10:31:03 GMT -6
Let the LHSAA stay out it. If Catholic and ND played the finals at home or a neutral site the last two years we would have each easily pocketed $80k instead of losing money. I don't know if I agree with your math, but the underlying concept is definitely correct. Catholic NI and ND almost assuredly would have been better off financially had they not participated in the Superdome Classic according to the figures given in news report. Post split, almost all schools (except possibly the smallest schools) would do "better" on their own. The event is just not a windfall post-split. That said, if the select schools have their own venues, and the formal governing body is not involved in the situation even though schools are still members of said body...is this the start of a formal split from the association? Why stay? 5000 fans X $16 = $80,000 divided by 2 teams is &40,000 each.(plus Consessions)We played the last two years. The LHSAA only paid 40% of the the guaranteed payout in ‘18. We roughly lost $10K in ‘18 and $5k last year traveling to Nola. We stay to play local rivalries and maintain district play.
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Post by retired on Apr 20, 2019 15:29:54 GMT -6
I don't know if I agree with your math, but the underlying concept is definitely correct. Catholic NI and ND almost assuredly would have been better off financially had they not participated in the Superdome Classic according to the figures given in news report. Post split, almost all schools (except possibly the smallest schools) would do "better" on their own. The event is just not a windfall post-split. That said, if the select schools have their own venues, and the formal governing body is not involved in the situation even though schools are still members of said body...is this the start of a formal split from the association? Why stay? 5000 fans X $16 = $80,000 divided by 2 teams is &40,000 each.(plus Consessions)We played the last two years. The LHSAA only paid 40% of the the guaranteed payout in ‘18. We roughly lost $10K in ‘18 and $5k last year traveling to Nola. We stay to play local rivalries and maintain district play. Minus expenses. Also, regarding the "why stay" it wasn't so much direct at ND and Catholic but all of the select schools in general. I think that seems to be where this is headed. I don't blame them either.
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Post by indy on Apr 20, 2019 18:15:14 GMT -6
5000 fans X $16 = $80,000 divided by 2 teams is &40,000 each.(plus Consessions)We played the last two years. The LHSAA only paid 40% of the the guaranteed payout in ‘18. We roughly lost $10K in ‘18 and $5k last year traveling to Nola. We stay to play local rivalries and maintain district play. Minus expenses. Also, regarding the "why stay" it wasn't so much direct at ND and Catholic but all of the select schools in general. I think that seems to be where this is headed. I don't blame them either. Playing at home our expenses (refs, paint, cleanup) are minimal. UL would let us play for $0 but they would keep the concessions. Readying for A high school football game is not that big a deal.
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Post by scholastic1 on Apr 21, 2019 19:23:44 GMT -6
Minus expenses. Also, regarding the "why stay" it wasn't so much direct at ND and Catholic but all of the select schools in general. I think that seems to be where this is headed. I don't blame them either. Playing at home our expenses (refs, paint, cleanup) are minimal. UL would let us play for $0 but they would keep the concessions. Readying for A high school football game is not that big a deal. Superdome charges 65,000 per game. Public schools would also make more money if they played at a different venue. 65,000 x 9 = 585,000 going to a stadium owned by Louisiana taxpayers. Someone making a lot of money and they can’t pay the schools the guarantee money.
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Post by larrylegend33 on Apr 24, 2019 9:01:48 GMT -6
The major issue that I saw pop up as a result of the LHSAA meeting in Baton Rouge this year was that Private Schools have very little representation. There was a motion to add slots onto the executive committee for private school representation and the public schools squashed it. The vote wasn't even close. I feel like we are eventually heading towards a full fledged organizational split in the near future. The LHSAA doesn't want to give private schools representation, but then they don't want to be involved in the championship events now.
The negative side of the private school meeting a couple weeks back was that they had all of the private school representatives together and failed to make any progress on anything. From what I heard they just took the issues that Bonine brought up and put questions together to send back to the Executive Committee. They should have used the momentum they had to try to put together a more formal committee to deal with the issues we are going to hit with the split of the championship events.
I know the big schools are looking for more profits from hosting championship events, but small schools get the raw end of the deal. A lot of them don't have the facilities to host a championship event, and the kids get robbed of the experience of a great venue and instead play for a basketball championship in somebody's little tin can gym.
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