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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 8:01:03 GMT -6
So, we cant vote on each class deciding if they want to classify for playoff purposed by Select/Non Select. However, the School Relations committee CAN put classifications in the mode of Select/Non Select if they so choose, and we CAN vote on that. Obvioulsy attempt to woo back in the big Catholic Schools in NOLA.......whatever. Those schools are no more, or no less important in the State of Louisiana than any other.
So, now the question is, had we been allowed to vote on a "split" by class, would 5A and 4A voted to stay together? We may never know, for it was vetoed by Parlimentarian Lejune (Bonines excuse)
Gentlemen, this entire issue is about what is best for each, individual school. Lets dont play the "whats best for the association" card. Thats ridiculous and absolutely everyone knows, thats not the truth. Realistically the ONLY think thats changed in the last 40 years, is now the non select sector, after years of watching schools skirt the intent of rules, has had enough. So, we have come to this.
Now, question is, are we still gonna act like this issue doesnt/has never existed at all?
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 18, 2016 10:39:33 GMT -6
So, we cant vote on each class deciding if they want to classify for playoff purposed by Select/Non Select. However, the School Relations committee CAN put classifications in the mode of Select/Non Select if they so choose, and we CAN vote on that. Obvioulsy attempt to woo back in the big Catholic Schools in NOLA.......whatever. Those schools are no more, or no less important in the State of Louisiana than any other. So, now the question is, had we been allowed to vote on a "split" by class, would 5A and 4A voted to stay together? We may never know, for it was vetoed by Parlimentarian Lejune (Bonines excuse) Gentlemen, this entire issue is about what is best for each, individual school. Lets dont play the "whats best for the association" card. Thats ridiculous and absolutely everyone knows, thats not the truth. Realistically the ONLY think thats changed in the last 40 years, is now the non select sector, after years of watching schools skirt the intent of rules, has had enough. So, we have come to this. Now, question is, are we still gonna act like this issue doesnt/has never existed at all? What you are seeing is the LHSAA's realization, that their revenue string as a "private" company is in jeopardy. If this does not pass, there will be a mass exodus in the next two years maybe even sooner, forcing the LHSAA into bankruptcy. If all the privates left this summer, they will not have enough cash coming in to fund mandates and existing contracts and expenses. Coupled with a threat of legal action from the departing schools, the LHSAA is teetering on the verge of insolvency. Even without legislative action, failure is immanent and the situation is dire, and the public school principals, coaches and administrators that forced the split are responsible. Like two dogs starving to death, one tells the other, "lets eat your tail and then we will eat mine, after all, we do not need a tail". Once the dog that eats first to his fill, he will leave the latter to starve in the desert. Large public schools will always have athletics while small public schools, are being eaten and are eating their own tails.
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 18, 2016 10:41:23 GMT -6
So, we cant vote on each class deciding if they want to classify for playoff purposed by Select/Non Select. However, the School Relations committee CAN put classifications in the mode of Select/Non Select if they so choose, and we CAN vote on that. Obvioulsy attempt to woo back in the big Catholic Schools in NOLA.......whatever. Those schools are no more, or no less important in the State of Louisiana than any other. So, now the question is, had we been allowed to vote on a "split" by class, would 5A and 4A voted to stay together? We may never know, for it was vetoed by Parlimentarian Lejune (Bonines excuse) Gentlemen, this entire issue is about what is best for each, individual school. Lets dont play the "whats best for the association" card. Thats ridiculous and absolutely everyone knows, thats not the truth. Realistically the ONLY think thats changed in the last 40 years, is now the non select sector, after years of watching schools skirt the intent of rules, has had enough. So, we have come to this. Now, question is, are we still gonna act like this issue doesnt/has never existed at all? What you are seeing is the LHSAA's realization, that their revenue string as a "private" company is in jeopardy. If this does not pass, there will be a mass exodus in the next two years maybe even sooner, forcing the LHSAA into bankruptcy. If all the privates left this summer, they will not have enough cash coming in to fund mandates and existing contracts and expenses. Coupled with a threat of legal action from the departing schools, the LHSAA is teetering on the verge of insolvency. Even without legislative action, failure is immanent and the situation is dire, and the public school principals, coaches and administrators that forced the split are responsible. Like two dogs starving to death, one tells the other, "lets eat your tail and then we will eat mine, after all, we do not need a tail". Once the dog that eats first to his fill, he will leave the latter to starve in the desert. Large public schools will always have athletics while small public schools, are being eaten and are eating their own tails. OH, and bigbob brought the Ketchup.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 11:00:19 GMT -6
Yet still, on any given Friday night in the fall, all the poor, starving, public schools, will still play football. The lame threats mean nothing. Those days are over.
Still defending are ya? Says alot
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Post by btown on Apr 18, 2016 11:16:23 GMT -6
So, we cant vote on each class deciding if they want to classify for playoff purposed by Select/Non Select. However, the School Relations committee CAN put classifications in the mode of Select/Non Select if they so choose, and we CAN vote on that. Obvioulsy attempt to woo back in the big Catholic Schools in NOLA.......whatever. Those schools are no more, or no less important in the State of Louisiana than any other. So, now the question is, had we been allowed to vote on a "split" by class, would 5A and 4A voted to stay together? We may never know, for it was vetoed by Parlimentarian Lejune (Bonines excuse) Gentlemen, this entire issue is about what is best for each, individual school. Lets dont play the "whats best for the association" card. Thats ridiculous and absolutely everyone knows, thats not the truth. Realistically the ONLY think thats changed in the last 40 years, is now the non select sector, after years of watching schools skirt the intent of rules, has had enough. So, we have come to this. Now, question is, are we still gonna act like this issue doesnt/has never existed at all? What you are seeing is the LHSAA's realization, that their revenue string as a "private" company is in jeopardy. If this does not pass, there will be a mass exodus in the next two years maybe even sooner, forcing the LHSAA into bankruptcy. If all the privates left this summer, they will not have enough cash coming in to fund mandates and existing contracts and expenses. Coupled with a threat of legal action from the departing schools, the LHSAA is teetering on the verge of insolvency. Even without legislative action, failure is immanent and the situation is dire, and the public school principals, coaches and administrators that forced the split are responsible. Like two dogs starving to death, one tells the other, "lets eat your tail and then we will eat mine, after all, we do not need a tail". Once the dog that eats first to his fill, he will leave the latter to starve in the desert. Large public schools will always have athletics while small public schools, are being eaten and are eating their own tails. The only thing that the upcoming vote shows is that the big New Orlean private schools are only worried about themselves and not the smaller private schools. I see a split between big and small private school as what is best. Looks like the small private are left waiting on the bus to come for them.
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 12:04:47 GMT -6
What you are seeing is the LHSAA's realization, that their revenue string as a "private" company is in jeopardy. If this does not pass, there will be a mass exodus in the next two years maybe even sooner, forcing the LHSAA into bankruptcy. If all the privates left this summer, they will not have enough cash coming in to fund mandates and existing contracts and expenses. Coupled with a threat of legal action from the departing schools, the LHSAA is teetering on the verge of insolvency. Even without legislative action, failure is immanent and the situation is dire, and the public school principals, coaches and administrators that forced the split are responsible. Like two dogs starving to death, one tells the other, "lets eat your tail and then we will eat mine, after all, we do not need a tail". Once the dog that eats first to his fill, he will leave the latter to starve in the desert. Large public schools will always have athletics while small public schools, are being eaten and are eating their own tails. The only thing that the upcoming vote shows is that the big New Orlean private schools are only worried about themselves and not the smaller private schools. I see a split between big and small private school as what is best. Looks like the small private are left waiting on the bus to come for them. I've been on both sides of the fence. All I can suggest is to accept the split and keep moving... The Select playoff brackets are pretty exciting from the get go... The Non Select bracket doesn't get good till the quartfinals...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 12:21:11 GMT -6
The only thing that the upcoming vote shows is that the big New Orlean private schools are only worried about themselves and not the smaller private schools. I see a split between big and small private school as what is best. Looks like the small private are left waiting on the bus to come for them. I've been on both sides of the fence. All I can suggest is to accept the split and keep moving... The Select playoff brackets are pretty exciting from the get go... The Non Select bracket doesn't get good till the quartfinals... Agreed, however I think once the naysayers get over themselves, that can be easily solved. Next grouping of proposals should and will be to edit the playoff brackets. I think 24, possibly 16, teams, should handle this situations handily. However, even if they dont, it doesnt cost a dime nor harm anyone no matter how many teams are in the playoffs. Quite the contrary actually. It brings needed monies to schools that are not normally used to getting playoff revenue (although the revenue is small)
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 12:33:46 GMT -6
I've been on both sides of the fence. All I can suggest is to accept the split and keep moving... The Select playoff brackets are pretty exciting from the get go... The Non Select bracket doesn't get good till the quartfinals... Agreed, however I think once the naysayers get over themselves, that can be easily solved. Next grouping of proposals should and will be to edit the playoff brackets. I think 24, possibly 16, teams, should handle this situations handily. However, even if they dont, it doesnt cost a dime nor harm anyone no matter how many teams are in the playoffs. Quite the contrary actually. It brings needed monies to schools that are not normally used to getting playoff revenue (although the revenue is small) 32 teams with a bunch of 0-10 1-9 2-8 3-7 teams is ridiculous Giving money to a team for a beating in your home stadium? RIDICULOUS 16 teams is enough 1st Round, Quartfinals, Semifinals, DOME
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Post by btown on Apr 18, 2016 12:42:00 GMT -6
Agreed, however I think once the naysayers get over themselves, that can be easily solved. Next grouping of proposals should and will be to edit the playoff brackets. I think 24, possibly 16, teams, should handle this situations handily. However, even if they dont, it doesnt cost a dime nor harm anyone no matter how many teams are in the playoffs. Quite the contrary actually. It brings needed monies to schools that are not normally used to getting playoff revenue (although the revenue is small) 32 teams with a bunch of 0-10 1-9 2-8 3-7 teams is ridiculous Giving money to a team for a beating in your home stadium? RIDICULOUS 16 teams is enough 1st Round, Quartfinals, Semifinals, DOME 16 Team brackets would be a big step. I agree with the select side they have less games. Still will not be equal, there are some byes, but then they could start working on that.
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 12:47:20 GMT -6
32 teams with a bunch of 0-10 1-9 2-8 3-7 teams is ridiculous Giving money to a team for a beating in your home stadium? RIDICULOUS 16 teams is enough 1st Round, Quartfinals, Semifinals, DOME 16 Team brackets would be a big step. I agree with the select side they have less games. Still will not be equal, there are some byes, but then they could start working on that. 16 teams would eliminate any argument of a "watered down" championship I think we could all agree on that...
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 13:33:33 GMT -6
32 teams with a bunch of 0-10 1-9 2-8 3-7 teams is ridiculous Giving money to a team for a beating in your home stadium? RIDICULOUS 16 teams is enough 1st Round, Quartfinals, Semifinals, DOME 16 Team brackets would be a big step. I agree with the select side they have less games. Still will not be equal, there are some byes, but then they could start working on that. I'll do you one better... I liked the Dunham coaches idea best Select and Non-Select take the top 16 teams by Power Ranking and have playoffs 1st round, quarterfinal, semifinal (highest seed remaining), State Non-Select/Select Championship (neutral site) then the Select and Non-Select Champs go at it in the DOME for the UNDISPUTED 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A State Championship Make it like a Super Bowl type format... Not watered down, best teams on the field, no excuses
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Post by btown on Apr 18, 2016 13:38:54 GMT -6
16 Team brackets would be a big step. I agree with the select side they have less games. Still will not be equal, there are some byes, but then they could start working on that. I'll do you one better... I liked the Dunham coaches idea best Select and Non-Select take the top 16 teams by Power Ranking and have playoffs 1st round, quarterfinal, semifinal (highest seed remaining), State Non-Select/Select Championship (neutral site) then the Select and Non-Select Champs go at it in the DOME for the UNDISPUTED 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A State Championship Make it like a Super Bowl type format... Not watered down, best teams on the field, no excuses Problem is the way they break out the select bracket, but good idea.
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 13:43:46 GMT -6
I'll do you one better... I liked the Dunham coaches idea best Select and Non-Select take the top 16 teams by Power Ranking and have playoffs 1st round, quarterfinal, semifinal (highest seed remaining), State Non-Select/Select Championship (neutral site) then the Select and Non-Select Champs go at it in the DOME for the UNDISPUTED 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, and 5A State Championship Make it like a Super Bowl type format... Not watered down, best teams on the field, no excuses Problem is the way they break out the select bracket, but good idea. If they go by power rankings there shouldn't be a problem...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 13:49:08 GMT -6
There really aren't enough Select teams for that.
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 13:57:29 GMT -6
There really aren't enough Select teams for that. You are right... DIV IV could take on 1A DIV III could take on 2A DIV II could take on 3A There isn't enough teams to play 4A and 5A as all you have left is DIV I.
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Post by btown on Apr 18, 2016 14:24:25 GMT -6
There really aren't enough Select teams for that. You are right... DIV IV could take on 1A DIV III could take on 2A DIV II could take on 3A There isn't enough teams to play 4A and 5A as all you have left is DIV I. Again let each class vote individually to see how it comes out. I bet then you could move to something like this. You might even get down to just 1A and 2A.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 7:18:50 GMT -6
You are right... DIV IV could take on 1A DIV III could take on 2A DIV II could take on 3A There isn't enough teams to play 4A and 5A as all you have left is DIV I. Again let each class vote individually to see how it comes out. I bet then you could move to something like this. You might even get down to just 1A and 2A. This idea has some merit, but the many select schools would never go for it. Thats not their issue. Their issue, is the ability to athletically compare themselves to the next closest public school or schools. If they cant do that on the field, well, the likelihood of wooing the "athletic only" kid diminishes.
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