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Post by longbomb on Nov 14, 2023 10:15:58 GMT -6
As far as the offensive coordinator goes figure out the offensive staff member that's been there the longest and that's who it will be. That's the way they operate now.
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Post by lhsaamemes on Nov 14, 2023 10:24:00 GMT -6
This won't last west Monroe will be looking again sooner rather than later. No he won't be fired he will leave on his own.
hopefully this was done quickly to avoid another drama fiasco where the WM powers would be divided into 2 camps and maybe it help the divisive figure to decide it's time to go away as well. It will be interesting to see who is named Offensive Coordinator and also is any other coaches leave
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Post by justwin on Nov 14, 2023 10:24:55 GMT -6
From the outside looking in it seems like an extremely lazy hire, Garvin included.
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Post by sacker on Nov 14, 2023 10:55:50 GMT -6
Youโre telling me that West Monroe just gave their Head Football job to a man with a 44-57 record as a head coach in Texas, and had 5 losing seasons in his 10 years there? ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ Go back and look. I said many years ago "Jerry Arledge will never win a state championship at WMHS". I now predict Kevin Davis will never win a DISTRICT championship at WMHS. The Rebel Club has destroyed this program. This guy is not the answer. He just ensures the status quo. WM is back to pre-Shows program. Ran by daddys (and mommas) that kiss up to the coach. Just look at their FB posts this morning. As long as their kid is playing they could care less about the results. Also, you have to hold Dan Lane responsible for this sh-- show. In the business world he would be fired by now. Doesn't have the courage to make difficult decision and wont back his guy in tough situations. I also understand that with the recent backstabbing by the asst. coaches toward Garvin, what quality candidate would want this job.
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Post by bullethole on Nov 14, 2023 11:31:44 GMT -6
I'm not buying the whole story about Garvin getting stabbed in the back or his coaches were out to get him thing anymore. It has become clear that he got in a bit of trouble for some overzealous conditioning at practice and decided to double down on that by doing it again just to prove who was in charge and it got him a spot on the Ruston coaching staff.
As for this hire of Davis on a permanent basis I guess we will see how it plays out. The man doesn't have a very good resume as a head coach in the past although I see he has been an OC at two different schools that won state championships, so he bound to have some ability. I get the impression that the current coaching staff likes him. Whether that is because he lets them do whatever they want or if it's because he's a good coach remains to be seen.
The thing no one is pointing out is that West Monroe made their name by being the first in the state to build from the weight room. They were simply more powerful and more physical than other teams for years. They were never fast as a team. They were never exactly athletic. They were just physically dominating up front on both sides of the ball and extremely well coached and prepared.
Other programs and other teams have caught up with them. Now days everyone is strong. Everyone is physical. That cancels out West Monroe's two advantages from years past. Now West Monroe is on the bottom rail looking up because they are the ones missing the key ingredient that a lot of others have--SPEED! West Monroe is still well coached. They are still strong. They are still physical. But they are slow compared to almost all the elite teams they play.
I personally don't think West Monroe has fallen off as much as everyone else has just simply caught up to and passed them. Is West Monroe at the level they were at in the late 90's or early 2000's? No. Are they far from it? I don't think so. They still have resources and money and huge community support. West Monroe's biggest issue right now is speed. They simply can't run with some of the teams that they used to dominate in the past. Winning at West Monroe now isn't as easy as it was 20 years ago.
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Post by raditian on Nov 14, 2023 11:34:14 GMT -6
This won't last west Monroe will be looking again sooner rather than later. No he won't be fired he will leave on his own.
hopefully this was done quickly to avoid another drama fiasco where the WM powers would be divided into 2 camps and maybe it will help the divisive figure to decide it's time to go away as well. It will be interesting to see who is named Offensive Coordinator and also is any other coaches leave
So Davis is a Band aid for now !?.... . Heaven forbid for some to wish WM title material .
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Post by bullethole on Nov 14, 2023 11:42:24 GMT -6
Look at Alexandria Senior High. Never a dominant force statewide. Then Bachman shows up and starts incorporating speed into their schemes and uses an offense that takes maximum advantage of that speed. They play a style of defense that emphasizes speed. They played in a state championship 3 years ago. They are now toe to toe with Ruston and West Monroe just about every year. They are now better than Ouachita. They are a legitimate threat against almost everyone they play.
Speed changes everything. Organized speed is deadly! West Monroe struggles to beat teams that can get away from them offensively and can run them down defensively. They struggle against teams that swarm them upfront and overload their blocking schemes and reads. Their receivers can't get separation and can't break long plays. Their defensive backs can't run with the elite receivers.
Until West Monroe gets faster, I don't think they will be back at the elite level again no matter what other changes they make. Right now, West Monroe is closer to being West Ouachita than they are to being the West Monroe of old.
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Post by sacker on Nov 14, 2023 12:52:39 GMT -6
I'm not buying the whole story about Garvin getting stabbed in the back or his coaches were out to get him thing anymore. It has become clear that he got in a bit of trouble for some overzealous conditioning at practice and decided to double down on that by doing it again just to prove who was in charge and it got him a spot on the Ruston coaching staff. As for this hire of Davis on a permanent basis I guess we will see how it plays out. The man doesn't have a very good resume as a head coach in the past although I see he has been an OC at two different schools that won state championships, so he bound to have some ability. I get the impression that the current coaching staff likes him. Whether that is because he lets them do whatever they want or if it's because he's a good coach remains to be seen. The thing no one is pointing out is that West Monroe made their name by being the first in the state to build from the weight room. They were simply more powerful and more physical than other teams for years. They were never fast as a team. They were never exactly athletic. They were just physically dominating up front on both sides of the ball and extremely well coached and prepared. Other programs and other teams have caught up with them. Now days everyone is strong. Everyone is physical. That cancels out West Monroe's two advantages from years past. Now West Monroe is on the bottom rail looking up because they are the ones missing the key ingredient that a lot of others have--SPEED! West Monroe is still well coached. They are still strong. They are still physical. But they are slow compared to almost all the elite teams they play. I personally don't think West Monroe has fallen off as much as everyone else has just simply caught up to and passed them. Is West Monroe at the level they were at in the late 90's or early 2000's? No. Are they far from it? I don't think so. They still have resources and money and huge community support. West Monroe's biggest issue right now is speed. They simply can't run with some of the teams that they used to dominate in the past. Winning at West Monroe now isn't as easy as it was 20 years ago. There is a huge difference between how Garvin was run out of town and why Garvin was run out of town. Never forget that. And yes the coaches like Davis because he runs the same weak program they want. Do you realize that the coaches under Garvin were complaining about practicing and having to be there to much.
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 13:44:39 GMT -6
Youโre telling me that West Monroe just gave their Head Football job to a man with a 44-57 record as a head coach in Texas, and had 5 losing seasons in his 10 years there? ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ Go back and look. I said many years ago "Jerry Arledge will never win a state championship at WMHS". I now predict Kevin Davis will never win a DISTRICT championship at WMHS.ย The Rebel Club has destroyed this program. This guy is not the answer.ย He just ensures the status quo. WM is back to pre-Shows program. Ran by daddys (and mommas) that kiss up to the coach. Just look at their FB posts this morning. As long as their kid is playing they could care less about the results. Also, you have to hold Dan Lane responsible for this sh-- show. In the business world he would be fired by now. Doesn't have the courage to make difficult decision and wont back his guy in tough situations. I also understand that with the recent backstabbing by the asst. coaches toward Garvin, what quality candidate would want this job.ย Nobody backstabbed Garvinโฆ.. why donโt people understand that yet? Letโs also not act like this district was as tough a decade or two ago. Ruston and ASH have both played for state championships recently.
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 13:46:57 GMT -6
I'm not buying the whole story about Garvin getting stabbed in the back or his coaches were out to get him thing anymore. It has become clear that he got in a bit of trouble for some overzealous conditioning at practice and decided to double down on that by doing it again just to prove who was in charge and it got him a spot on the Ruston coaching staff. As for this hire of Davis on a permanent basis I guess we will see how it plays out. The man doesn't have a very good resume as a head coach in the past although I see he has been an OC at two different schools that won state championships, so he bound to have some ability. I get the impression that the current coaching staff likes him. Whether that is because he lets them do whatever they want or if it's because he's a good coach remains to be seen. The thing no one is pointing out is that West Monroe made their name by being the first in the state to build from the weight room. They were simply more powerful and more physical than other teams for years. They were never fast as a team. They were never exactly athletic. They were just physically dominating up front on both sides of the ball and extremely well coached and prepared. Other programs and other teams have caught up with them. Now days everyone is strong. Everyone is physical. That cancels out West Monroe's two advantages from years past. Now West Monroe is on the bottom rail looking up because they are the ones missing the key ingredient that a lot of others have--SPEED! West Monroe is still well coached. They are still strong. They are still physical. But they are slow compared to almost all the elite teams they play. I personally don't think West Monroe has fallen off as much as everyone else has just simply caught up to and passed them. Is West Monroe at the level they were at in the late 90's or early 2000's? No. Are they far from it? I don't think so. They still have resources and money and huge community support. West Monroe's biggest issue right now is speed. They simply can't run with some of the teams that they used to dominate in the past. Winning at West Monroe now isn't as easy as it was 20 years ago. Best post Iโve seen in a while. Agree 100%.
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Post by lhsaamemes on Nov 14, 2023 13:53:13 GMT -6
Go back and look. I said many years ago "Jerry Arledge will never win a state championship at WMHS". I now predict Kevin Davis will never win a DISTRICT championship at WMHS. The Rebel Club has destroyed this program. This guy is not the answer. He just ensures the status quo. WM is back to pre-Shows program. Ran by daddys (and mommas) that kiss up to the coach. Just look at their FB posts this morning. As long as their kid is playing they could care less about the results. Also, you have to hold Dan Lane responsible for this sh-- show. In the business world he would be fired by now. Doesn't have the courage to make difficult decision and wont back his guy in tough situations. I also understand that with the recent backstabbing by the asst. coaches toward Garvin, what quality candidate would want this job. Nobody backstabbed Garvinโฆ.. why donโt people understand that yet? Letโs also not act like this district was as tough a decade or two ago. Ruston and ASH have both played for state championships recently.
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 13:53:48 GMT -6
I'm not buying the whole story about Garvin getting stabbed in the back or his coaches were out to get him thing anymore. It has become clear that he got in a bit of trouble for some overzealous conditioning at practice and decided to double down on that by doing it again just to prove who was in charge and it got him a spot on the Ruston coaching staff. As for this hire of Davis on a permanent basis I guess we will see how it plays out. The man doesn't have a very good resume as a head coach in the past although I see he has been an OC at two different schools that won state championships, so he bound to have some ability. I get the impression that the current coaching staff likes him. Whether that is because he lets them do whatever they want or if it's because he's a good coach remains to be seen. The thing no one is pointing out is that West Monroe made their name by being the first in the state to build from the weight room. They were simply more powerful and more physical than other teams for years. They were never fast as a team. They were never exactly athletic. They were just physically dominating up front on both sides of the ball and extremely well coached and prepared. Other programs and other teams have caught up with them. Now days everyone is strong. Everyone is physical. That cancels out West Monroe's two advantages from years past. Now West Monroe is on the bottom rail looking up because they are the ones missing the key ingredient that a lot of others have--SPEED! West Monroe is still well coached. They are still strong. They are still physical. But they are slow compared to almost all the elite teams they play. I personally don't think West Monroe has fallen off as much as everyone else has just simply caught up to and passed them. Is West Monroe at the level they were at in the late 90's or early 2000's? No. Are they far from it? I don't think so. They still have resources and money and huge community support. West Monroe's biggest issue right now is speed. They simply can't run with some of the teams that they used to dominate in the past. Winning at West Monroe now isn't as easy as it was 20 years ago. There is a huge difference between how Garvin was run out of town and why Garvin was run out of town. Never forget that. And yes the coaches like Davis because he runs the same weak program they want. Do you realize that the coaches under Garvin were complaining about practicing and having to be there to much.ย Garvin was run out because of his inability to adapt. A key characteristic of a good coach. Everyone else in the state adapted to the heat. Garvin refused. So much so that he punished kids for missing with covid. Coaches werenโt complaining about practicing. They were complaining about the practices sending kids to the hospital and the head coach deflecting all blame. Throughout the whole thing Garvin never accepted any blame for anything. If he wasnโt run out then he wouldnโt have had a team. I know that for a fact. Dozens of players (many of them key players) had decided they werenโt playing for someone who treated people the way Garvin treated them. Maybe these parents are all just excited to have someone in the head coaching position who cares about their kids and isnโt just using them to achieve their own personal goals regardless of what that looks like.
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 13:54:38 GMT -6
Nobody backstabbed Garvinโฆ.. why donโt people understand that yet? Letโs also not act like this district was as tough a decade or two ago. Ruston and ASH have both played for state championships recently. The district was good 30 years ago. Not 20. Lol
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Post by chalmetteowl on Nov 14, 2023 15:22:26 GMT -6
The district was good 30 years ago. Not 20. Lol Well Neville is coming next year, it will be good again
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 15:27:53 GMT -6
The district was good 30 years ago. Not 20. Lol Well Neville is coming next year, it will be good again I think itโs good now. I was just saying that 30 years ago was when it was good then wm dominated and other schools were just average. Now other schools have passed up wm.
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 14, 2023 16:25:21 GMT -6
West Monroe has removed the interim tag from Kevin Davis and named him full HC per Jake Martin pardon my bluntness, but WTF?
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Post by raditian on Nov 14, 2023 17:14:30 GMT -6
West Monroe has removed the interim tag from Kevin Davis and named him full HC per Jake Martin pardon my bluntness, but WTF? May be a band aid til further notice !?
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Post by sacker on Nov 14, 2023 17:30:25 GMT -6
There is a huge difference between how Garvin was run out of town and why Garvin was run out of town. Never forget that. And yes the coaches like Davis because he runs the same weak program they want. Do you realize that the coaches under Garvin were complaining about practicing and having to be there to much. Garvin was run out because of his inability to adapt. A key characteristic of a good coach. Everyone else in the state adapted to the heat. Garvin refused. So much so that he punished kids for missing with covid. Coaches werenโt complaining about practicing. They were complaining about the practices sending kids to the hospital and the head coach deflecting all blame. Throughout the whole thing Garvin never accepted any blame for anything. If he wasnโt run out then he wouldnโt have had a team. I know that for a fact. Dozens of players (many of them key players) had decided they werenโt playing for someone who treated people the way Garvin treated them. Maybe these parents are all just excited to have someone in the head coaching position who cares about their kids and isnโt just using them to achieve their own personal goals regardless of what that looks like. The kids were saying and doing exactly what they were being told to say and do. Look coach, I know it looks bad. We are all embarrassed by this entire fiasco but the politics up there has destroyed this program.
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 17:35:55 GMT -6
Garvin was run out because of his inability to adapt. A key characteristic of a good coach. Everyone else in the state adapted to the heat. Garvin refused. So much so that he punished kids for missing with covid. Coaches werenโt complaining about practicing. They were complaining about the practices sending kids to the hospital and the head coach deflecting all blame. Throughout the whole thing Garvin never accepted any blame for anything. If he wasnโt run out then he wouldnโt have had a team. I know that for a fact. Dozens of players (many of them key players) had decided they werenโt playing for someone who treated people the way Garvin treated them. Maybe these parents are all just excited to have someone in the head coaching position who cares about their kids and isnโt just using them to achieve their own personal goals regardless of what that looks like. The kids were saying and doing exactly what they were being told to say and do. Look coach, I know it looks bad. We are all embarrassed by this entire fiasco butย the politics up there has destroyed this program.ย ย I can tell you have made your mind up on what happened based on what you read on here or what Garvin said in his interview to try to save face. No use in continuing the conversation. Everyone you talk to inside the program says the same thing. Politics got him the job but couldnโt keep him the job due to his own inability to adapt.
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Post by reb72 on Nov 14, 2023 17:56:35 GMT -6
The kids were saying and doing exactly what they were being told to say and do. Look coach, I know it looks bad. We are all embarrassed by this entire fiasco but the politics up there has destroyed this program. I can tell you have made your mind up on what happened based on what you read on here or what Garvin said in his interview to try to save face. No use in continuing the conversation. Everyone you talk to inside the program says the same thing. Politics got him the job but couldnโt keep him the job due to his own inability to adapt.
adapt... code for follow orders
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 14, 2023 19:56:03 GMT -6
I can tell you have made your mind up on what happened based on what you read on here or what Garvin said in his interview to try to save face. No use in continuing the conversation. Everyone you talk to inside the program says the same thing. Politics got him the job but couldnโt keep him the job due to his own inability to adapt.
adapt...ย code for follow orders
Yeah. Orders to stop putting kids in the hospital. Which happened the first time the day of the parish wide meeting with all head coaches about heat safety. If Garvin was innocent he would have released the documents as to why he was removed from the coaching staff. No other school had these issues. Nobody told him not to coach. They told him to have common sense.
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Post by geauxpokes1978 on Nov 15, 2023 9:12:03 GMT -6
As a long time rebel fan and supporter, I have mixed feelings about the official naming of the HC. I'm skeptical when it comes to the thought of can he get it done. Lots of changes happened this year and yes they went through alot but after managing this team for 10 weeks after the change, and you lay an egg in the first round of the playoffs is not when you get a pass in my opinion. We can cry about it but that's not going to change things. Was the decision rushed and not thought out yes. However I think we should support Davis' Era and see where things go. Hopefully he proves all doubters, and people on the fence wrong.
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Post by raditian on Nov 15, 2023 9:34:46 GMT -6
As a long time rebel fan and supporter, I have mixed feelings about the official naming of the HC. I'm skeptical when it comes to the thought of can he get it done. Lots of changes happened this year and yes they went through alot but after managing this team for 10 weeks after the change, and you lay an egg in the first round of the playoffs is not when you get a pass in my opinion. We can cry about it but that's not going to change things. Was the decision rushed and not thought out yes. However I think we should support Davis' Era and see where things go. Hopefully he proves all doubters, and people on the fence wrong. I have mixed feelings as well, just wondering if AD has the final say in all HC matters ?
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Post by jamesblonde on Nov 15, 2023 10:00:22 GMT -6
As a long time rebel fan and supporter, I have mixed feelings about the official naming of the HC. I'm skeptical when it comes to the thought of can he get it done. Lots of changes happened this year and yes they went through alot but after managing this team for 10 weeks after the change, and you lay an egg in the first round of the playoffs is not when you get a pass in my opinion. We can cry about it but that's not going to change things. Was the decision rushed and not thought out yes. However I think we should support Davis' Era and see where things go. Hopefully he proves all doubters, and people on the fence wrong. ย ย ย I have mixed feelings as well, just wondering if AD has the final say in all HC matters ? Will be interesting to see what happens with the AD. Is that something that Davis gets or do they give it to someone in another sport? No word on Davis being named the AD also so that makes me wonder.
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Post by reb72 on Nov 15, 2023 10:30:01 GMT -6
As a long time rebel fan and supporter, I have mixed feelings about the official naming of the HC. I'm skeptical when it comes to the thought of can he get it done. Lots of changes happened this year and yes they went through alot but after managing this team for 10 weeks after the change, and you lay an egg in the first round of the playoffs is not when you get a pass in my opinion. We can cry about it but that's not going to change things. Was the decision rushed and not thought out yes. However I think we should support Davis' Era and see where things go. Hopefully he proves all doubters, and people on the fence wrong. ย ย ย I have mixed feelings as well, just wondering if AD has the final say in all HC matters ? I have made clear where the problem lies at WM. I have no way of knowing but I would bet the rushed decision on HC was to keep the AD and his camp out of the process and it will continue to be an issue. I will support KD and give him a chance but like plenty of others I think the handwriting is on the wall for the Rebel Program...
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Post by geauxpokes1978 on Nov 15, 2023 14:08:16 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings as well, just wondering if AD has the final say in all HC matters ? I have made clear where the problem lies at WM. I have no way of knowing but I would bet the rushed decision on HC was to keep the AD and his camp out of the process and it will continue to be an issue. I will support KD and give him a chance but like plenty of others I think the handwriting is on the wall for the Rebel Program... I Agree. I didn't even think of that aspect of it.
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Post by raditian on Nov 15, 2023 17:18:51 GMT -6
I have mixed feelings as well, just wondering if AD has the final say in all HC matters ? I have made clear where the problem lies at WM. I have no way of knowing but I would bet the rushed decision on HC was to keep the AD and his camp out of the process and it will continue to be an issue. I will support KD and give him a chance but like plenty of others I think the handwriting is on the wall for the Rebel Program... Guess we will see where Davis takes it.!!
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Post by reb72 on Nov 15, 2023 21:51:37 GMT -6
I have made clear where the problem lies at WM. I have no way of knowing but I would bet the rushed decision on HC was to keep the AD and his camp out of the process and it will continue to be an issue. I will support KD and give him a chance but like plenty of others I think the handwriting is on the wall for the Rebel Program... Guess we will see where Davis takes it.!!
Unless something changes, he can only take it as far as he is allowed...
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Post by tigerlove on Nov 16, 2023 0:20:38 GMT -6
The district was good 30 years ago. Not 20. Lol KD is a good man but look at his overall record as a head coach. In 2 years he has won 1 playoff game. Heโs now head coach. West Monroe football will not improve under his leadership
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Post by indy on Nov 16, 2023 5:43:18 GMT -6
ย ย Guess we will see where Davis takes it.!!
Unless something changes, he can only take it as far as he is allowed...
Yโall need to seriously think about starting a Go Fund Me account to get a new coach and recruiting budget. If we knew it would stop all the self pity and whining this board would probably send a lot of cash WMโs way.
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