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Post by LATigerFan on Oct 22, 2017 20:22:13 GMT -6
I stated numerous times I thought AC was a good team. I just said I wasn't ready to call them the front runners. I simply said OC, LCA, CHPC, and vc would all have the same record with that schedule. If you think otherwise that's your opinion but it's wrong lol.
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Post by billbelichick12345 on Oct 22, 2017 20:25:45 GMT -6
Thank You. These people here boy I swear. Agreed I mean look at the way they handled KIPP they torched them by a td. KIPP even took out the powerhouse Cohen by a td. KIPP will be a (5-4) 3A team at the end of the season. And Ascension Catholic also lost both running backs to injury during that game as well as about 200 Yards of offense called back in penalties. About 4 touchdowns called back. Poorly officiated contest to say the least. Remember how everybody was giving Pointe Coupee credit for blowing out that Port Barre team? Solid (0-8) team
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 20:26:06 GMT -6
Thank You. These people here boy I swear. Agreed I mean look at the way they handled KIPP they torched them by a td. KIPP even took out the powerhouse Cohen by a td. If you were not at that game you shouldn’t have said that. Score did not reflect the game. If I remember correctly AC had like 500 yds to KIPP 150. The refs have a lot of control, especially when an outsider travels to NOLA.
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Post by billbelichick12345 on Oct 22, 2017 20:27:15 GMT -6
I stated numerous times I thought AC was a good team. I just said I wasn't ready to call them the front runners. I simply said OC, LCA, CHPC, and vc would all have the same record with that schedule. If you think otherwise that's your opinion but it's wrong lol. You do realize Catholic Pointe Coupee has the 25th ranked schedule strength out of 26. You do realize thats bad right? Like awful.
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Post by LATigerFan on Oct 22, 2017 20:28:32 GMT -6
Agreed I mean look at the way they handled KIPP they torched them by a td. KIPP even took out the powerhouse Cohen by a td. KIPP will be a (5-4) 3A team at the end of the season. And Ascension Catholic also lost both running backs to injury during that game as well as about 200 Yards of offense called back in penalties. About 4 touchdowns called back. Poorly officiated contest to say the least. Remember how everybody was giving Pointe Coupee credit for blowing out that Port Barre team? Solid (0-8) team No I don't recall anyone giving credit for blowing out Port Barre. I'm not even a CHPC fan I just simply said there isn't enough yet to base who is better then who. We will know more in the next couple weeks.
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Post by billbelichick12345 on Oct 22, 2017 20:29:34 GMT -6
Agreed I mean look at the way they handled KIPP they torched them by a td. KIPP even took out the powerhouse Cohen by a td. If you were not at that game you shouldn’t have said that. Score did not reflect the game. If I remember correctly AC had like 500 yds to KIPP 150. The refs have a lot of control, especially when an outsider travels to NOLA. Thank you patriot. That game was very one sided minus having to play KIPP and the officials.
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Post by goldburg on Oct 22, 2017 20:31:02 GMT -6
I stated numerous times I thought AC was a good team. I just said I wasn't ready to call them the front runners. I simply said OC, LCA, CHPC, and vc would all have the same record with that schedule. If you think otherwise that's your opinion but it's wrong lol. I usually agree with most of ur posts lol U have given AC some credit historically But no one debating with you here said they were a front runner Just a very good team The reason everyone sniping back is bc the same logic put toward ac schedule is not being given to everyone else’s schedule That’s all
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 20:33:17 GMT -6
If you were not at that game you shouldn’t have said that. Score did not reflect the game. If I remember correctly AC had like 500 yds to KIPP 150. The refs have a lot of control, especially when an outsider travels to NOLA. Thank you patriot. That game was very one sided minus having to play KIPP and the officials. Never wanted to call out officiating but had to set record straight. You take out holding penalties that game is 40-6 against a very good KIPP team. Very athletic. I compare them to Kentwood from past but the Roo’s much better coached, that’s a historical program man.
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Post by LATigerFan on Oct 22, 2017 20:33:44 GMT -6
I stated numerous times I thought AC was a good team. I just said I wasn't ready to call them the front runners. I simply said OC, LCA, CHPC, and vc would all have the same record with that schedule. If you think otherwise that's your opinion but it's wrong lol. I usually agree with most of ur posts lol U have given AC some credit historically But no one debating with you here said they were a front runner Just a very good team The reason everyone sniping back is bc the same logic put toward ac schedule is not being given to everyone else’s schedule That’s all I think they all played a bunch of weak schedules. That's why I think it's to early and the next couple weeks will show us a lot. You have AC vs Kentwood, Cc vs oak Grove, Opelousas Cath vs Chpc, and Logansport vs st Mary.
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Post by LATigerFan on Oct 22, 2017 20:35:00 GMT -6
I don't want u guys to think I'm some AC hater because I'm not. I would be thrilled if they won it all just like CC. I enjoy seeing new teams take the title.
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Post by goldburg on Oct 22, 2017 20:40:02 GMT -6
I don't want u guys to think I'm some AC hater because I'm not. I would be thrilled if they won it all just like CC. I enjoy seeing new teams take the title. I don’t think that u are a hater Everyone is entitled to there opinion Only one thing will end the debate on who’s better than who and that’s lining up and playing it out in playoffs Of course I’m a AC guy I think AC will do well I think cedar creek will do well I think ocs will give someone a threat I think Opelousas catholic will do well How it all plays out we will see
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 20:42:26 GMT -6
I don't want u guys to think I'm some AC hater because I'm not. I would be thrilled if they won it all just like CC. I enjoy seeing new teams take the title. Can I get another amen!
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Post by creasy77 on Oct 22, 2017 20:53:03 GMT -6
I usually agree with most of ur posts lol U have given AC some credit historically But no one debating with you here said they were a front runner Just a very good team The reason everyone sniping back is bc the same logic put toward ac schedule is not being given to everyone else’s schedule That’s all I think they all played a bunch of weak schedules. That's why I think it's to early and the next couple weeks will show us a lot. You have AC vs Kentwood, Cc vs oak Grove, Opelousas Cath vs Chpc, and Logansport vs st Mary. Now, if everyone loses to these opponents, we will have to debate whose loss was worse. There is a strong possibility all the Div IV teams fall to all these non select teams. Strong possibility. It's also possible there are some wins.
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Post by goldburg on Oct 22, 2017 21:00:42 GMT -6
I think they all played a bunch of weak schedules. That's why I think it's to early and the next couple weeks will show us a lot. You have AC vs Kentwood, Cc vs oak Grove, Opelousas Cath vs Chpc, and Logansport vs st Mary. Now, if everyone loses to these opponents, we will have to debate whose loss was worse. There is a strong possibility all the Div IV teams fall to all these non select teams. Strong possibility. It's also possible there are some wins. Oh I’m sure we will all find something to debate no matter the outcomes 🤣
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 21:02:00 GMT -6
I think they all played a bunch of weak schedules. That's why I think it's to early and the next couple weeks will show us a lot. You have AC vs Kentwood, Cc vs oak Grove, Opelousas Cath vs Chpc, and Logansport vs st Mary. Now, if everyone loses to these opponents, we will have to debate whose loss was worse. There is a strong possibility all the Div IV teams fall to all these non select teams. Strong possibility. It's also possible there are some wins. I don’t think the non select schools are that better than the select schools. Not in 1A.
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Post by creasy77 on Oct 22, 2017 21:13:04 GMT -6
I think they all played a bunch of weak schedules. That's why I think it's to early and the next couple weeks will show us a lot. You have AC vs Kentwood, Cc vs oak Grove, Opelousas Cath vs Chpc, and Logansport vs st Mary. Now, if everyone loses to these opponents, we will have to debate whose loss was worse. There is a strong possibility all the Div IV teams fall to all these non select teams. Strong possibility. It's also possible there are some wins. I'll say this now so it doesn't seem like I'm creating scenarios the week of. If AC stays within 2 scores of Kentwood, they are a strong contender. If they beat Kentwood, you Def have to look at them as a favorite. If Creek stays within a score of Oak Grove you would certainly have to consider them a contender. If they beat them, there should be little doubt they are the favorites, unless AC also beats Kentwood, then we have that to hash over. Whoever wins the OP and CHSPC game is a contender, certainly a threat for the Semis. If st Mary stays within one score of Logansport, they are a contender. If they beat logansport, they are a threat to win it all. If any of these teams lose by 20+, everything we thought we knew, was just a facade.
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Post by creasy77 on Oct 22, 2017 21:15:11 GMT -6
Now, if everyone loses to these opponents, we will have to debate whose loss was worse. There is a strong possibility all the Div IV teams fall to all these non select teams. Strong possibility. It's also possible there are some wins. I don’t think the non select schools are that better than the select schools. Not in 1A. Me neither, certainly not at the top. The problem in 1-A is the difference between say #4 and #13 is sometimes a Grand Canyon sized gap. I don't think they are that much better, or any better, but if they all beat em, we are back at square one on the argument.
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Post by goldburg on Oct 22, 2017 21:27:44 GMT -6
Now, if everyone loses to these opponents, we will have to debate whose loss was worse. There is a strong possibility all the Div IV teams fall to all these non select teams. Strong possibility. It's also possible there are some wins. I'll say this now so it doesn't seem like I'm creating scenarios the week of. If AC stays within 2 scores of Kentwood, they are a strong contender. If they beat Kentwood, you Def have to look at them as a favorite. If Creek stays within a score of Oak Grove you would certainly have to consider them a contender. If they beat them, there should be little doubt they are the favorites, unless AC also beats Kentwood, then we have that to hash over. Whoever wins the OP and CHSPC game is a contender, certainly a threat for the Semis. If st Mary stays within one score of Logansport, they are a contender. If they beat logansport, they are a threat to win it all. If any of these teams lose by 20+, everything we thought we knew, was just a facade. Fair enough only place I disagree would be on the margin of a loss being telling on whether a team is a contender or not I don’t think how much let’s say kentwood would beat ACHS by or how much oak grove would beat cedar creek by would translate into a contender or not I think they are both contenders either way Too many things go into these games week to week with high school kids at 1a level Heck one or two kids get sick or banged up could make a huge difference in a game It’s hard to compare how a team translates to future games bc honestly a lot of d4 teams just don’t have the number of athletes a team like kentwood has or maybe oak grove but I Havnt seen them I don’t think a margin of loss for ac to kentwood says anything about how they would fare against say Cedar creek Ocs Opelousas cath Chspc Laffyette chr I think those matchups would all be unique
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Post by creasy77 on Oct 22, 2017 21:47:40 GMT -6
I'll say this now so it doesn't seem like I'm creating scenarios the week of. If AC stays within 2 scores of Kentwood, they are a strong contender. If they beat Kentwood, you Def have to look at them as a favorite. If Creek stays within a score of Oak Grove you would certainly have to consider them a contender. If they beat them, there should be little doubt they are the favorites, unless AC also beats Kentwood, then we have that to hash over. Whoever wins the OP and CHSPC game is a contender, certainly a threat for the Semis. If st Mary stays within one score of Logansport, they are a contender. If they beat logansport, they are a threat to win it all. If any of these teams lose by 20+, everything we thought we knew, was just a facade. Fair enough only place I disagree would be on the margin of a loss being telling on whether a team is a contender or not I don’t think how much let’s say kentwood would beat ACHS by or how much oak grove would beat cedar creek by would translate into a contender or not I think they are both contenders either way Too many things go into these games week to week with high school kids at 1a level Heck one or two kids get sick or banged up could make a huge difference in a game It’s hard to compare how a team translates to future games bc honestly a lot of d4 teams just don’t have the number of athletes a team like kentwood has or maybe oak grove but I Havnt seen them I don’t think a margin of loss for ac to kentwood says anything about how they would fare against say Cedar creek Ocs Opelousas cath Chspc Laffyette chr I think those matchups would all be unique Fair point. I think it is a barometer though. Losing by 35 is different than losing by 8.
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Post by goldburg on Oct 22, 2017 21:48:36 GMT -6
Fair enough only place I disagree would be on the margin of a loss being telling on whether a team is a contender or not I don’t think how much let’s say kentwood would beat ACHS by or how much oak grove would beat cedar creek by would translate into a contender or not I think they are both contenders either way Too many things go into these games week to week with high school kids at 1a level Heck one or two kids get sick or banged up could make a huge difference in a game It’s hard to compare how a team translates to future games bc honestly a lot of d4 teams just don’t have the number of athletes a team like kentwood has or maybe oak grove but I Havnt seen them I don’t think a margin of loss for ac to kentwood says anything about how they would fare against say Cedar creek Ocs Opelousas cath Chspc Laffyette chr I think those matchups would all be unique Fair point. I think it is a barometer though. Losing by 35 is different than losing by 8. Yea that is true
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Post by CrusadingLions on Oct 22, 2017 22:24:34 GMT -6
I hope we get an Ascension Catholic vs Catholic Pointe Coupee Playoff matchup at some point. So I can say I told you so. Like I said by 30 + You mean you think that AC will blow another top ten opponent out but late in season! I like it, we weren’t supposed to blow out Cov Christian either. Go dogs! Don’t worry bout the critics.... Most people who had seen both said that Covenant was going to get demolished by A.C. and they did. Covenant was highly over-rated and were exposed 3 weeks in a row. That's not an insult to ACHS, they exposed Covenant, which is what good teams do. I'd take that as high praise for A.C. Only the top teams get to "expose" someone. Should be a very fun playoffs. Every good team will have critics...its not that people are saying you aren't good. They just want to know how big of a beast the Bulldogs are.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2017 23:32:40 GMT -6
You mean you think that AC will blow another top ten opponent out but late in season! I like it, we weren’t supposed to blow out Cov Christian either. Go dogs! Don’t worry bout the critics.... Most people who had seen both said that Covenant was going to get demolished by A.C. and they did. Covenant was highly over-rated and were exposed 3 weeks in a row. That's not an insult to ACHS, they exposed Covenant, which is what good teams do. I'd take that as high praise for A.C. Only the top teams get to "expose" someone. Should be a very fun playoffs. Every good team will have critics...its not that people are saying you aren't good. They just want to know how big of a beast the Bulldogs are. You were definitely right when you said “every good team has critics.” My school is serving a ban because of............ I’m gone let that be. But when you’re good, people will hate. You shut the haters up by winning. And ACHS will do that in the D4 playoffs.
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Post by CrusadingLions on Oct 23, 2017 6:12:17 GMT -6
Most people who had seen both said that Covenant was going to get demolished by A.C. and they did. Covenant was highly over-rated and were exposed 3 weeks in a row. That's not an insult to ACHS, they exposed Covenant, which is what good teams do. I'd take that as high praise for A.C. Only the top teams get to "expose" someone. Should be a very fun playoffs. Every good team will have critics...its not that people are saying you aren't good. They just want to know how big of a beast the Bulldogs are. You were definitely right when you said “every good team has critics.” My school is serving a ban because of............ I’m gone let that be. But when you’re good, people will hate. You shut the haters up by winning. And ACHS will do that in the D4 playoffs. Couldn't agree more. As I said earlier, the reason CHSPC doesn't have the same criticism is that no one sees them as a threat. People know ACHS is a threat this year thus the spotlight is now being pointed at them. Probably a little shocking as it has been a while since ACHS has had this type of attention. With some teams they fold once the spotlight starts shining as you take on that "us against the world" mentality and can't handle it. I've been critical of their coaching staff. With that I can say that they do an amazing job getting the team prepared each week and I fully expect ACHS to shine under the spotlight. Can't stress enough about how well coached and disciplined Ascension Catholic is.
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