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Post by TheFireman89 on Oct 25, 2017 15:41:58 GMT -6
Oberlin has been running it well for years. East Beau runs it pretty good too. South Cameron ran it as long as I could remember but are spread this season.
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Post by mt on Oct 25, 2017 15:52:34 GMT -6
That is very true. When I was at SU Lab, Dunham would run that wing on us and snap the ball with 2 seconds left on the play clock every down to slow the game down. And they beat us one time like that. Bruuuhhh, I hated playing Dunham when we were all in the same district lol. Played keep away every single time we played them with that wing-t! We played them twice my sopre and senior year. Hackler at FB 😂😂 I cant remember the fast kid who ended up at Tulane the year they won state.
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Post by sunnyd56 on Oct 25, 2017 16:10:19 GMT -6
Bruuuhhh, I hated playing Dunham when we were all in the same district lol. Played keep away every single time we played them with that wing-t! We played them twice my sopre and senior year. Hackler at FB 😂😂 I cant remember the fast kid who ended up at Tulane the year they won state. Kerrie Koch, I probably misspelled his name but yea lol
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Post by mt on Oct 25, 2017 16:11:14 GMT -6
Hackler at FB 😂😂 I cant remember the fast kid who ended up at Tulane the year they won state. Kerrie Koch, I probably misspelled his name but yea lol THATS HIM!!!!!!!!! Gave everybody issues lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 18:06:10 GMT -6
Kerrie Koch, I probably misspelled his name but yea lol THATS HIM!!!!!!!!! Gave everybody issues lol Kerry was legit. And the coach’s son. That wing was surgical.
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Post by lawarrior15 on Oct 25, 2017 20:47:15 GMT -6
Nothing like watching a well coached triple option attack against a well coached and disciplined 4-2-5 (or whatever you want to call it) defense. I'll take it any day over the no huddle, pass happy shoot outs that seem to be turning into the norm. And before anyone jumps down my throat about it, I'm not saying one is better than the other, just rather watch a battle of attrition than a shootout. Well you will get your wish in week 10 when Kinder plays West Fel. I know West Fel runs the flexbone on offense and a 4-2-5 defense and I've seen Kinder in the Dome running the flexbone as well.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Oct 25, 2017 23:46:45 GMT -6
Nothing like watching a well coached triple option attack against a well coached and disciplined 4-2-5 (or whatever you want to call it) defense. I'll take it any day over the no huddle, pass happy shoot outs that seem to be turning into the norm. And before anyone jumps down my throat about it, I'm not saying one is better than the other, just rather watch a battle of attrition than a shootout. Well you will get your wish in week 10 when Kinder plays West Fel. I know West Fel runs the flexbone on offense and a 4-2-5 defense and I've seen Kinder in the Dome running the flexbone as well. Kinder still runs it most of the game. The game might still be a shootout. West Feliciana is suppose to have a lot of speed. We gonna have to try to slow the game down when we're on offense. And of course score when we do have the ball. Can't afford any 3 and outs.
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Post by cowboy on Oct 25, 2017 23:57:40 GMT -6
East Jefferson runs it
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Post by westfel on Oct 26, 2017 3:50:33 GMT -6
Well you will get your wish in week 10 when Kinder plays West Fel. I know West Fel runs the flexbone on offense and a 4-2-5 defense and I've seen Kinder in the Dome running the flexbone as well. Kinder still runs it most of the game. The game might still be a shootout. West Feliciana is suppose to have a lot of speed. We gonna have to try to slow the game down when we're on offense. And of course score when we do have the ball. Can't afford any 3 and outs. West Fel runs it but has dropped the QB to the shotgun. Personally, i think you can hide the ball better running it from under center. West Fel has opened up their passing game as well, which is critical to loosen a defense when they stack the box. When we were curb stomped by U-High, our 35 points were all passing TDs. This should be a good, hard fought game and i agree with you on the 3 and outs, for both sides. Best of luck to both teams!
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Post by 1stdown on Oct 26, 2017 4:06:03 GMT -6
Kinder still runs it most of the game. The game might still be a shootout. West Feliciana is suppose to have a lot of speed. We gonna have to try to slow the game down when we're on offense. And of course score when we do have the ball. Can't afford any 3 and outs. West Fel runs it but has dropped the QB to the shotgun.  Personally, i think you can hide the ball better running it from under center.  West Fel has opened up their passing game as well, which is critical to loosen a defense when they stack the box.  When we were curb stomped by U-High, our 35 points were all passing TDs.  This should be a good, hard fought game and i agree with you on the 3 and outs, for both sides.  Best of luck to both teams! GOOD luck to you and the team. Sterlington did the same out of the shotgun. Hoping we make a good showing against a very good wf team.
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Post by WreckinCrew on Oct 26, 2017 4:49:38 GMT -6
Having a thread on the triple option and not mentioning West Monroe is like having a thread on rock and roll and not mentioning Elvis. Or maybe you guys are just too young to remember. West Monroe built a powerhouse on the triple option and back in the day nobody ran it better. Rebel quarterbacks were always great runners and they always had a fast running halfback back and a tough fullback.
Evangel dominated West Monroe in football and was able to contain the triple option overall but I can tell you they gave up some big plays. Evangel fans held their breath on a lot of plays.
I remember a play in the game West Monroe won at Independence Stadium where their quarterback faked to the fullback, then faked a pitchout, cut up field at about his own 25 yard line and when I say he saw nothing but green that's an understatement. There was nobody within 25 yards of him. Fortunately Evangel had D back named Jonathon Wade who happened to be a world class high school track athlete and he came all the at from the opposite side of the field and caught the WM quarterback at about the ten yard line. And this was a fast quarterback I'm talking about. Just one of my memories of the glory days.
One more. I was leaving a game at Independence Stadium between West Monroe and Longview. Longview was always big and mean in those days. I passed just a short distance from the action as I was leaving. West Monroe had the ball on the Longview 10 or 15 yard line. The WM fullback took the handoff on the triple option up the middle and I thought I was watching a bar room fight. The FB meant to get it in the end zone and the big Longview defense meant to keep him out. That was the most violent high school play I have ever seen. The grass and dust flew and the hitting sounded like a fireworks display. Those were the days.
I agree,W.Monroe ran the triple option better than anybody back in the '90's and 2000's when the late great Don Shows was the head coach.Since Aldridge took over they have run multiple style offenses,spread read option,pro I,and still some triple/veer option.I think everyone's point is about teams that primarily run the triple option as there bread and butter offense to this day.I don't think anyone left W.Monroe out on purpose because the Rebels don't just run a veer/triple option style offense as much the last couple of years.
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Post by america on Oct 26, 2017 6:11:51 GMT -6
WM has been 75% or more out of the Gun this year. It breaks my heart to see them get away from "what brung them to the dance"! Miss seeing them mash folks! Slade Bolden could have been the new Bobby Breen!! In my humble opinion...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 7:10:27 GMT -6
The true triple option offenses like the Veer, I Bone, Nebraska I, Flexbone, and the Wishbone have faded into obscurity because younger HC’s and OC’s coming from college want to emulate the high yardage, fast scoring spread systems that the 2000’s gave way to. Those systems put athletes in space early and often, and the big plays occur at a higher rate. Kids today are also just as easily bored with traditional offenses as the fans are and spread offenses attract more basketball/track athletes, especially in places where winning is tough. Kids are having fun running in space as opposed to getting pounded on 30-40 plays every game. Spread offenses also require less fundamentals and have less of a learning curve. It’s easier to teach a dive/zone read 3-6 yards from the LOS than right up on the line, where it occurs quicker and the QB will get tagged more often than not. And a young, or bad, option QB can frustrate everyone involved.
Another big reason for the fading of traditional offenses is that coaches, parents, and players believe that college coaches won’t push as hard for a player in a non-mainstream system. They don’t realize that it only looks like that because everyone is running the spread on the high school level now. But, nevertheless they cite this as a reason why they need x system instead of older systems.
But, I think we are on the verge of another offensive revolution in the near future. Navy and Ga Tech are still giving most teams fits with their offenses at their level, Ga Southern wants to go back to what made their teams great in the past, and high schools are going to the Flexbone and Veer offenses and finding success at various levels. Old is becoming new again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 7:59:35 GMT -6
I'm just curious what all schools out there run the triple option? I hardly ever see it ran and its one of my favorite things to watch. Couldn't agree more! I love watching the triple when its clicking! At the collegiate level the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Harding University have definitely proved that it is an effective "equalizer offense". Odessa Permian and Gunter High School are two programs across the border (Texas) that run it very well and have had a lot success while doing so. I've seen a few flexbone-triple teams begin to implement the short pistol which allows them to utilize their short passing/rpo game as well....dirty stuff.
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Post by mt on Oct 26, 2017 9:48:06 GMT -6
I'm just curious what all schools out there run the triple option? I hardly ever see it ran and its one of my favorite things to watch. Couldn't agree more! I love watching the triple when its clicking! At the collegiate level the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Harding University have definitely proved that it is an effective "equalizer offense". Odessa Permian and Gunter High School are two programs across the border (Texas) that run it very well and have had a lot success while doing so. I've seen a few flexbone-triple teams begin to implement the short pistol which allows them to utilize their short passing/rpo game as well....dirty stuff. Does anyone believe it’s just a change in time or personnel? I have a differing opinion on the triple option as well as spread offenses.
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Post by 1stdown on Oct 26, 2017 10:24:55 GMT -6
I'm just curious what all schools out there run the triple option? I hardly ever see it ran and its one of my favorite things to watch. Couldn't agree more! I love watching the triple when its clicking! At the collegiate level the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Harding University have definitely proved that it is an effective "equalizer offense". Odessa Permian and Gunter High School are two programs across the border (Texas) that run it very well and have had a lot success while doing so. I've seen a few flexbone-triple teams begin to implement the short pistol which allows them to utilize their short passing/rpo game as well....dirty stuff. Think somewhat of a passing game is required if you get behind, it's hard to make up ground with a triple option. Playing keep away don't always work if the offense sputtered for one reason or another. Think this is why we don't see many TRUE triple option teams winning national championships in college.
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Post by kinder1981 on Oct 26, 2017 10:27:12 GMT -6
Couldn't agree more! I love watching the triple when its clicking! At the collegiate level the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Harding University have definitely proved that it is an effective "equalizer offense". Odessa Permian and Gunter High School are two programs across the border (Texas) that run it very well and have had a lot success while doing so. I've seen a few flexbone-triple teams begin to implement the short pistol which allows them to utilize their short passing/rpo game as well....dirty stuff. Does anyone believe it’s just a change in time or personnel? I have a differing opinion on the triple option as well as spread offenses. A combination of both. Over time, defenses have created schemes designed go specifically stop the option. At its most basic, the option is designed to create and take advantage of one on one matchups. When the DT stay at home and don't go up field, the midline gets shut down. If Linebackers and D Ends play assignment football, the best athletes are going to win. For everything that works on offense, there are defensive coaches working to figure out ways to stop it. Some coaches have gotten really good at shutting it down. Also, the option scheme favors smaller, more athletic lineman (which is why it is still used by the military academies). One inarguable trend in high school football is that offensive lineman are getting bigger just about every year. Its very hard for an offensive lineman north of 270 lbs to keep up with that style of offense.
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Post by kinder1981 on Oct 26, 2017 10:29:13 GMT -6
Couldn't agree more! I love watching the triple when its clicking! At the collegiate level the service academies, Georgia Tech, and Harding University have definitely proved that it is an effective "equalizer offense". Odessa Permian and Gunter High School are two programs across the border (Texas) that run it very well and have had a lot success while doing so. I've seen a few flexbone-triple teams begin to implement the short pistol which allows them to utilize their short passing/rpo game as well....dirty stuff. Think somewhat of a passing game is required if you get behind, it's hard to make up ground with a triple option. Playing keep away don't always work if the offense sputtered for one reason or another. Think this is why we don't see many TRUE triple option teams winning national championships in college. Good point. The triple option offense is also very prone to turnovers (namely fumbles), which doesn't bode well in high scoring games.
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Post by kamala on Oct 26, 2017 10:31:11 GMT -6
Well you will get your wish in week 10 when Kinder plays West Fel. I know West Fel runs the flexbone on offense and a 4-2-5 defense and I've seen Kinder in the Dome running the flexbone as well. Kinder still runs it most of the game. The game might still be a shootout. West Feliciana is suppose to have a lot of speed. We gonna have to try to slow the game down when we're on offense. And of course score when we do have the ball. Can't afford any 3 and outs. That '13 Semi between Kinder's Flexbone Option and Winnfield's 4-2-5 was one for the ages. Had a front row seat....and a broken heart.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2017 11:08:28 GMT -6
Good point. The triple option offense is also very prone to turnovers (namely fumbles), which doesn't bode well in high scoring games. Very true. Definitely a possession/control the clock system that's hard to score fast in. I like how those "old man football" systems can serve as equalizers in today's game though. Single wing, Wing-t, flexbone, etc. can allow the average or lesser than average high school team to at least have a chance every week against greater opponents.
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Post by america on Oct 26, 2017 11:10:54 GMT -6
Sterlington Does not beat Madison Prep last year running anything else!! In my humble opinion...
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