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Post by Baseballdad on Mar 18, 2018 7:28:30 GMT -6
We at the Halfway point of the season and District is about to amp up. Who is the surprise teams so far at this point of the season? I must say I’m very surprised at Vermillion Cath., Catholic P.C., St. Ed’s, and Hanson being where they are at in the rankings. Ouachita Christian, Houma Christian, St. John,& CCA looks to be playing great ball right now, can they keep it up. I’m sure lots will change one District plays out though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 9:26:11 GMT -6
We at the Halfway point of the season and District is about to amp up. Who is the surprise teams so far at this point of the season? I must say I’m very surprised at Vermillion Cath., Catholic P.C., St. Ed’s, and Hanson being where they are at in the rankings. Ouachita Christian, Houma Christian, St. John,& CCA looks to be playing great ball right now, can they keep it up. I’m sure lots will change one District plays out though. St. John Eagles are playing good ball right now from what I can see. Ouachita is clearly the favorite. We shall see how it all unfolds soon enough. |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 19, 2018 9:32:47 GMT -6
We at the Halfway point of the season and District is about to amp up. Who is the surprise teams so far at this point of the season? I must say I’m very surprised at Vermillion Cath., Catholic P.C., St. Ed’s, and Hanson being where they are at in the rankings. Ouachita Christian, Houma Christian, St. John,& CCA looks to be playing great ball right now, can they keep it up. I’m sure lots will change one District plays out though. St. John Eagles are playing good ball right now from what I can see. Ouachita is clearly the favorite. We shall see how it all unfolds soon enough. Ouachita will be tough to beat. St. John is a really good team, would love to see a rematch between them and H.C. In the playoffs. Should be a good 1 |
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Post by billbelichick12345 on Mar 19, 2018 10:05:56 GMT -6
Ascension Catholic got back to the winning ways it showed at the beginning of the year.
The bulldogs went 3-0 on the weekend.
12-3 Win vs. Central Catholic Morgan City
13-3 Win vs. Catholic High Pointe Coupee
13-3 Win vs. Episcopal
This bring the Dawgs to 9-8 overall on the season with two district games this week against the Kentwood Kangaroos.
I would agree that Ouachita Christian and St. John are the top two teams in Div IV at the Halfway Point of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2018 11:56:01 GMT -6
Ascension Catholic got back to the winning ways it showed at the beginning of the year. The bulldogs went 3-0 on the weekend. 12-3 Win vs. Central Catholic Morgan City 13-3 Win vs. Catholic High Pointe Coupee 13-3 Win vs. Episcopal This bring the Dawgs to 9-8 overall on the season with two district games this week against the Kentwood Kangaroos. I would agree that Ouachita Christian and St. John are the top two teams in Div IV at the Halfway Point of the season. #16 UMBC beat #1 Virginia a couple nights ago to start of March Sadness.......... Just saying. |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 19, 2018 12:42:30 GMT -6
Ascension Catholic got back to the winning ways it showed at the beginning of the year. The bulldogs went 3-0 on the weekend. 12-3 Win vs. Central Catholic Morgan City 13-3 Win vs. Catholic High Pointe Coupee 13-3 Win vs. Episcopal This bring the Dawgs to 9-8 overall on the season with two district games this week against the Kentwood Kangaroos. I would agree that Ouachita Christian and St. John are the top two teams in Div IV at the Halfway Point of the season. I wouldn’t say St. John is in the Top2 right now. Great team, but that Houma Christian team is ranked #2 for a reason. Just compare the schedules. CCA team is really good also. Very young with only 2 seniors. |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 19, 2018 20:13:15 GMT -6
Ascension Catholic got back to the winning ways it showed at the beginning of the year. The bulldogs went 3-0 on the weekend. 12-3 Win vs. Central Catholic Morgan City 13-3 Win vs. Catholic High Pointe Coupee 13-3 Win vs. Episcopal This bring the Dawgs to 9-8 overall on the season with two district games this week against the Kentwood Kangaroos. I would agree that Ouachita Christian and St. John are the top two teams in Div IV at the Halfway Point of the season. I wouldn’t say St. John is in the Top2 right now. Great team, but that Houma Christian team is ranked #2 for a reason. Just compare the schedules. CCA team is really good also. Very young with only 2 seniors. U want to compare schedules now? Look at ascension catholic schedule and win loss records of teams it played on power point site It’s not even close Achs and Opelousas Catholic play superior schedules to anyone with exception of st Ed’s So u keep looking at records Achs, Opelousas Catholic, St. John, will all keep getting better With all due respect, the schedule covenant christian plays is a absolute joke How many times can u play ellender and call it tough? Ur obviously from Houma area and the team to beat around that area is clearly Houma christian But to put Houma christian and covenant christian at the same level at this point is laughable Schedule for cca is just bad Period They may have a quality team, very well may, but the schedule is why they are ranked where they are Achs, Opelousas cath could have possibly gone undefeated with that schedule The previous mentioned teams are tested and will be there when playoffs come around Keep dismissing them |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 19, 2018 20:15:56 GMT -6
I wouldn’t say St. John is in the Top2 right now. Great team, but that Houma Christian team is ranked #2 for a reason. Just compare the schedules. CCA team is really good also. Very young with only 2 seniors. U want to compare schedules now? Look at ascension catholic schedule and win loss records of teams it played on power point site It’s not even close Achs and Opelousas Catholic play superior schedules to anyone with exception of st Ed’s So u keep looking at records Achs, Opelousas Catholic, St. John, will all keep getting better With all due respect, the schedule covenant christian plays is a absolute joke How many times can u play ellender and call it tough? Ur obviously from Houma area and the team to beat around that area is clearly Houma christian But to put Houma christian and covenant christian at the same level at this point is laughable Schedule for cca is just bad Period They may have a quality team, very well may, but the schedule is why they are ranked where they are Achs, Opelousas cath could have possibly gone undefeated with that schedule The previous mentioned teams are tested and will be there when playoffs come around Keep dismissing them And yes I believe the three top teams right now are ouachita christian, Houma christian and St. John |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 19, 2018 20:32:41 GMT -6
U want to compare schedules now? Look at ascension catholic schedule and win loss records of teams it played on power point site It’s not even close Achs and Opelousas Catholic play superior schedules to anyone with exception of st Ed’s So u keep looking at records Achs, Opelousas Catholic, St. John, will all keep getting better With all due respect, the schedule covenant christian plays is a absolute joke How many times can u play ellender and call it tough? Ur obviously from Houma area and the team to beat around that area is clearly Houma christian But to put Houma christian and covenant christian at the same level at this point is laughable Schedule for cca is just bad Period They may have a quality team, very well may, but the schedule is why they are ranked where they are Achs, Opelousas cath could have possibly gone undefeated with that schedule The previous mentioned teams are tested and will be there when playoffs come around Keep dismissing them And yes I believe the three top teams right now are ouachita christian, Houma christian and St. John Yea I am from the Houma area. I don’t have any ties to either team, I follow all the teams from this area. When I was comparing the schedules I wasn’t comparing CCA. I know they played a weak schedule, I was just stating that they are a very good team for being so young. I find Houma Christian has played a fairly decent schedule so far, and playing this well without their best player who’s been out over 2weeks. Once they get him back it will make them better. I’m not knocking Ascension Catholic or Opelousas. I know they always have a great team and will make deep runs in the playoffs. Just stating at the half way point, it’s Ouachita Christian Houma Christian and St. John in that order, my own opinion. |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 19, 2018 20:48:58 GMT -6
And yes I believe the three top teams right now are ouachita christian, Houma christian and St. John Yea I am from the Houma area. I don’t have any ties to either team, I follow all the teams from this area. When I was comparing the schedules I wasn’t comparing CCA. I know they played a weak schedule, I was just stating that they are a very good team for being so young. I find Houma Christian has played a fairly decent schedule so far, and playing this well without their best player who’s been out over 2weeks. Once they get him back it will make them better. I’m not knocking Ascension Catholic or Opelousas. I know they always have a great team and will make deep runs in the playoffs. Just stating at the half way point, it’s Ouachita Christian Houma Christian and St. John in that order, my own opinion. I agree with that Houma chr is real deal no doubt |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 19, 2018 20:59:42 GMT -6
Yea I am from the Houma area. I don’t have any ties to either team, I follow all the teams from this area. When I was comparing the schedules I wasn’t comparing CCA. I know they played a weak schedule, I was just stating that they are a very good team for being so young. I find Houma Christian has played a fairly decent schedule so far, and playing this well without their best player who’s been out over 2weeks. Once they get him back it will make them better. I’m not knocking Ascension Catholic or Opelousas. I know they always have a great team and will make deep runs in the playoffs. Just stating at the half way point, it’s Ouachita Christian Houma Christian and St. John in that order, my own opinion. I agree with that Houma chr is real deal no doubt Ouachita christian is real real good With there kid on mound they will be tough to beat He’s legit mid to upper 80’s Very tough Ask west Monroe |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 19, 2018 21:18:27 GMT -6
I agree with that Houma chr is real deal no doubt Ouachita christian is real real good With there kid on mound they will be tough to beat He’s legit mid to upper 80’s Very tough Ask west Monroe My preseason pick was Ouachita Christian and Opelousas Catholic in the finals but the way St. John is playing they have a great shot. Houma Christian is heavy with Seniors. 7 of 9 starters. 2 pitchers throwing mid to high 80’s. If they can stay healthy they can make a run but who knows. I know Div IV is stacked with talent. |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 19, 2018 21:19:33 GMT -6
Ouachita christian is real real good With there kid on mound they will be tough to beat He’s legit mid to upper 80’s Very tough Ask west Monroe My preseason pick was Ouachita Christian and Opelousas Catholic in the finals but the way St. John is playing they have a great shot. Houma Christian is heavy with Seniors. 7 of 9 starters. 2 pitchers throwing mid to high 80’s. If they can stay healthy they can make a run but who knows. I know Div IV is stacked with talent. Playoffs changing to best of 3 changes a lot. Will come down to pitching. Who has it. |
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Post by 225sportsfan on Mar 19, 2018 22:27:22 GMT -6
St. John has 3 very good starters and a 4th talented pitcher which I think will be a plus for them come playoff time with the new format.
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 20, 2018 4:39:42 GMT -6
Looking at records dismisses a few more teams
Cedar creek and st mary both have senior heavy ball clubs. Catholic Pc returned a bunch of players from quarter final team. Central catholic is always good come playoff time. Usually one other good team from that district that’s likely vermilion Catholic
These teams combined with ascension catholic, Opelousas Catholic and of course Ouachita christian, Houma christian, and St. John will make for some epic quarter final two of three series. I think u may be able to add covenant christian to this group also of potential quarter final teams. Although I would not be surprised to see ascension christian and covenant christian be in top 8 in power ranking due to schedule and get beat in first round. There will be some very good teams from 8-16 who may have lost games in tough schedules like a cath pc or st mary
Potentially st Edmund also as their schedule will have prepared them, they will be tested
Key in first two rounds with two of three series will be pitching debth. Sure all teams have one good arm in this group, some potentially two, and very few 3. Butttttt....
U cannot assume these guys will all throw complete games every outing. So with that said, it will likely come down to all these teams second level pitching to come in relief in two or three of these games. So the challenge for coaches will be
1. Which starter to throw which game
2. If game is close do u come with a second starter in relief to try to grab a win
3. With new pitching rules u cannot throw more than 30 pitches in a day without sitting out a day, with two of three series set on Friday and two Saturday u can see where this can be a problem. And if they bring in starter to throw to grab a win in relief, it would be a bit much to expect that guy to come back the next day to throw 7 innings. So with all of that said, when u look at teams the key to winning could be in the pitchers who would be listed in the 4-8 on staff category, some could use more guys than that depending on game. I mean if u use 2 pitchers per game which is usually typical u are already at number 6 in debth depending on how many pitches are thrown. For 1a schools I don’t care who u are on the list, going that deep on mound changes the game dramatically. That’s gonna create a different dynamic
Now if these teams starters go 7, may not affect them
But that’s a crap shoot. Forcing a game three in two of three series in 1a could get ugly. Look at Sunday’s in SEC on college teams in game 3. 1a baseball in game 3 of a series could be 20 run games.
For all of these reasons, u can see why I harped on schedule so much in previous posts. Sure the teams playing light schedules who could line up there best guys against there few tough games look good. Look at the schedules where teams played 4-5 tough games a week. Bc those are the teams who had to develop a pitching staff along the way bc they couldn’t line up there pitching against all of them. They may have dropped some of those games, but getting those 4-8 spot pitchers valuable experience vs tough teams will come back to be very very important. It’s one thing to throw those guys in a glorified junior varsity type game vs bad opponent to get power points, it’s quite another to throw those guys against quality competition Now whoever make the tourney in sulphur in the final 4 u go back to business as usual one game matchup, needing two starters and couple good relievers to win it all. But.....
U have to have survived a tough two of three quarter final to get there
Those 4 quarter final series will be fun to watch, if u are a division 4 fan, just pick one a show up. They will all be good ones. But this is true, getting in the top 4 will show who best teams are likely going in, but.... all it will really buy those 4 teams is the two of three series gauruntee at home, which is very important no doubt, but winning that two of three series is another thing which will in most cases come down to pitching debth. Throw in a upset or two in round 1, and the top 4 not even guaranteed home game
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Post by Bring it on Mar 20, 2018 6:56:04 GMT -6
Looking at records dismisses a few more teams Cedar creek and st mary both have senior heavy ball clubs. Catholic Pc returned a bunch of players from quarter final team. Central catholic is always good come playoff time. Usually one other good team from that district that’s likely vermilion Catholic These teams combined with ascension catholic, Opelousas Catholic and of course Ouachita christian, Houma christian, and St. John will make for some epic quarter final two of three series. I think u may be able to add covenant christian to this group also of potential quarter final teams. Although I would not be surprised to see ascension christian and covenant christian be in top 8 in power ranking due to schedule and get beat in first round. There will be some very good teams from 8-16 who may have lost games in tough schedules like a cath pc or st mary Potentially st Edmund also as their schedule will have prepared them, they will be tested Key in first two rounds with two of three series will be pitching debth. Sure all teams have one good arm in this group, some potentially two, and very few 3. Butttttt.... U cannot assume these guys will all throw complete games every outing. So with that said, it will likely come down to all these teams second level pitching to come in relief in two or three of these games. So the challenge for coaches will be 1. Which starter to throw which game 2. If game is close do u come with a second starter in relief to try to grab a win 3. With new pitching rules u cannot throw more than 30 pitches in a day without sitting out a day, with two of three series set on Friday and two Saturday u can see where this can be a problem. And if they bring in starter to throw to grab a win in relief, it would be a bit much to expect that guy to come back the next day to throw 7 innings. So with all of that said, when u look at teams the key to winning could be in the pitchers who would be listed in the 4-8 on staff category, some could use more guys than that depending on game. I mean if u use 2 pitchers per game which is usually typical u are already at number 6 in debth depending on how many pitches are thrown. For 1a schools I don’t care who u are on the list, going that deep on mound changes the game dramatically. That’s gonna create a different dynamic Now if these teams starters go 7, may not affect them But that’s a crap shoot. Forcing a game three in two of three series in 1a could get ugly. Look at Sunday’s in SEC on college teams in game 3. 1a baseball in game 3 of a series could be 20 run games. For all of these reasons, u can see why I harped on schedule so much in previous posts. Sure the teams playing light schedules who could line up there best guys against there few tough games look good. Look at the schedules where teams played 4-5 tough games a week. Bc those are the teams who had to develop a pitching staff along the way bc they couldn’t line up there pitching against all of them. They may have dropped some of those games, but getting those 4-8 spot pitchers valuable experience vs tough teams will come back to be very very important. It’s one thing to throw those guys in a glorified junior varsity type game vs bad opponent to get power points, it’s quite another to throw those guys against quality competition Now whoever make the tourney in sulphur in the final 4 u go back to business as usual one game matchup, needing two starters and couple good relievers to win it all. But..... U have to have survived a tough two of three quarter final to get there Those 4 quarter final series will be fun to watch, if u are a division 4 fan, just pick one a show up. They will all be good ones. But this is true, getting in the top 4 will show who best teams are likely going in, but.... all it will really buy those 4 teams is the two of three series gauruntee at home, which is very important no doubt, but winning that two of three series is another thing which will in most cases come down to pitching debth. I agree with everything you just said. I’m curious to see how the rest of the season plays out for everyone and the playoff matchups. Being familiar with the Houma area I also find CCA will struggle with the best of 3 format. Lots of hitters, and crazy speed from top to bottom, but pitching will hurt them. They don’t have a true ace to hang with the heavy hitters. HC has 2 Aces, and 3-4 kids that can come in and get the job done. They are a power hitting team. Central Catholic is starting to come around. I know they lost a great pitching staff but it’s C.C. They will find a way. I’m not sure if any of these teams can hang with Ouachita, Opelousas, Ascension Catholic though. |
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Post by GRIZZ on Mar 20, 2018 21:01:27 GMT -6
St. John has 3 very good starters and a 4th talented pitcher which I think will be a plus for them come playoff time with the new format. Where are you getting this information about the playofff format changing? |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 20, 2018 21:03:18 GMT -6
St. John has 3 very good starters and a 4th talented pitcher which I think will be a plus for them come playoff time with the new format. Where are you getting this information about the playofff format changing? Regional and quarterfinal this year two of three series That’s the format change he speaks of |
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Post by GRIZZ on Mar 20, 2018 21:08:59 GMT -6
Where are you getting this information about the playofff format changing? Regional and quarterfinal this year two of three series That’s the format change he speaks of Really, because I’m not seeing that on the LHSAA website. The 2017/2018 playoff rules show that classes 5a-2a and divisions I-III play two of three, but I’m not seeing where it says that for the lower classes. |
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Post by GRIZZ on Mar 20, 2018 21:17:33 GMT -6
This is what I’m seeing on the LHSAA website.
10.11.5 The playoff system for Classes 5A, 4A, 3A and 2A and Divisions I, II, and III shall be as follows: 1. Bi-District Round - Single elimination game at home field of the higher seeded team as determined under Rule 10.10, Power Ranking, in this section.
2. Regional Round - Best two out of three series at the home field of the higher seeded team...
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Post by Bring it on Mar 20, 2018 21:19:50 GMT -6
Regional and quarterfinal this year two of three series That’s the format change he speaks of Really, because I’m not seeing that on the LHSAA website. The 2017/2018 playoff rules show that classes 5a-2a and divisions I-III play two of three, but I’m not seeing where it says that for the lower classes. I just tried to find it and it looks like they took off 1A and Div IV. Not has me wondering if they changed it or not. |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 20, 2018 21:24:08 GMT -6
Really, because I’m not seeing that on the LHSAA website. The 2017/2018 playoff rules show that classes 5a-2a and divisions I-III play two of three, but I’m not seeing where it says that for the lower classes. I just tried to find it and it looks like they took off 1A and Div IV. Not has me wondering if they changed it or not. I assure u it was changed Effective this season |
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 20, 2018 21:25:09 GMT -6
I just tried to find it and it looks like they took off 1A and Div IV. Not has me wondering if they changed it or not. I assure u it was changed Effective this season It just passed at January meeting They just might not have it updated on site yet |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 20, 2018 21:27:56 GMT -6
I assure u it was changed Effective this season It just passed at January meeting They just might not have it updated on site yet It was updated. I read it a month ago. Looks like they changed it back. Not sure |
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Post by Brad on Mar 21, 2018 9:44:54 GMT -6
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Post by southlafootball on Mar 21, 2018 11:00:18 GMT -6
That is correct when I was speaking of 1a I’m speaking in terms of division 4 Division 4 is two of three 1a stayed the same |
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Post by Bring it on Mar 21, 2018 11:31:08 GMT -6
Looks like HC barely squeaked by CCA last night 6-5
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Post by coach1611 on Mar 21, 2018 23:27:35 GMT -6
LHSAA needs to fix Ouachita Christian they have them in there power rankings in Division V not IV!
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