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Post by movethechains on Sept 29, 2018 18:30:22 GMT -6
Friday night at the game in Eunice a Church Point player made a hell of a block on a Eunice player during a run back. He really flattened him chest high. The ref called a penalty on him. The sign he gave was his two fists in front of him touching each other knuckle to knuckle. Anyone know what penalty that is? ??
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Post by indy on Sept 29, 2018 18:34:42 GMT -6
Friday night at the game in Eunice a Church Point player made a hell of a block on a Eunice player during a run back. He really flattened him chest high. The ref called a penalty on him. The sign he gave was his two fists in front of him touching each other knuckle to knuckle. Anyone know what penalty that is? ?? Not totally sure me we had 3 hands to the head called in one game. Apparently that is new. We had A Ref on the forum but a lame coach coach reported him for commenting and he had to exit the forum.
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Post by movethechains on Sept 29, 2018 18:36:47 GMT -6
Someone said it had something to do with "hitting too hard." That's hard to believe even by todays' standards, lol.
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Post by polkhigh on Sept 29, 2018 18:47:03 GMT -6
We had that in a game and they said it was a crack back block
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Post by indy on Sept 29, 2018 18:54:18 GMT -6
Someone said it had something to do with "hitting too hard." That's hard to believe even by todays' standards, lol. Hitting to hard? About right, now this.
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Post by bleedsred on Sept 29, 2018 18:54:47 GMT -6
It is a crack back block. This is the second year for this rule but first year for the signal
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Post by fanman on Sept 29, 2018 19:11:37 GMT -6
It is a crack back block. This is the second year for this rule but first year for the signal maybe one of those defenseless player calls
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2018 19:49:17 GMT -6
We had a return called back last year against Iota that cost us field position on a hit like this. Our FB hit the kid chest high, from the front, but was still flagged for unnecessary roughness. And this took place within 5 yards of the runner so it wasn’t like it was a pointless block. I get player safety, but high school kids are not college/pro players who can simply react differently on a play. It’s a terrible rule that is inconsistently enforced.
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Post by markanderson on Sept 29, 2018 21:12:52 GMT -6
Friday night at the game in Eunice a Church Point player made a hell of a block on a Eunice player during a run back. He really flattened him chest high. The ref called a penalty on him. The sign he gave was his two fists in front of him touching each other knuckle to knuckle. Anyone know what penalty that is? ?? Illegal blindside block. They made it a big deal this year, you cannot hit blindside anyone anymore unless they lead with the hands.
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Post by TheFireman89 on Sept 29, 2018 21:32:09 GMT -6
Yeah blindside block is now illegal. We ran into this in our scrimmage against Gueydan when our 6'3 215 linebacker knocked the soul out of a kid from Gueydan on what used to be a legal block. Penalty was called and that was the sign used. Trying to prevent any unnecessary injuries and though I'll miss seeing those blocks, especially on kick returns, I agree with this
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Post by roopride on Sept 30, 2018 2:01:54 GMT -6
Friday night at the game in Eunice a Church Point player made a hell of a block on a Eunice player during a run back. He really flattened him chest high. The ref called a penalty on him. The sign he gave was his two fists in front of him touching each other knuckle to knuckle. Anyone know what penalty that is? ?? Illegal blindside block. They made it a big deal this year, you cannot hit blindside anyone anymore unless they lead with the hands. Although those used to be exciting to see, its is now unnecessary for a player to "crack back" into an opposing player. I like the rule change, just coach the player blocking player to simply set a pick to avoid this penalty.
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Post by TC_Cant_Hang on Sept 30, 2018 7:21:18 GMT -6
Or just don't play football if you don't want to get hit.
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Post by bigred on Sept 30, 2018 8:00:57 GMT -6
We had one also called Friday but the ref called it " blind side to the back". WTF is that???. First off, it was not a blind side nor block in the back. The two players were running head to head. Clearly looking at each other. One just knocked the other alot harder.lol
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Post by btown on Sept 30, 2018 8:39:47 GMT -6
The call that they are trying to make is blind-siding someone that is behind the runner. What I have heard is that is a new rule.
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Post by bigred on Sept 30, 2018 8:51:19 GMT -6
The call that they are trying to make is blind-siding someone that is behind the runner. What I have heard is that is a new rule. That rule started last year but the problem is that the refs are apparently having trouble knowing what that actually is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2018 12:05:26 GMT -6
Like I said...terrible rule that is inconsistently enforced. I’ve seen peel backs uncalled when it was a blatant blindside, and I’ve seen face-to-face peel backs called as blindsides. If you’re going to have rules like these, then leave no room for subjection. Just like the helmet contact rules when they first came out, if you leave too much wiggle room for interpretation then referees will be all over the place.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Sept 30, 2018 20:15:05 GMT -6
Its coming from up field and blind siding a kid that's trailing behind the play. Its a rule change for safety and a good one.
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Post by Herminator76 on Oct 1, 2018 6:09:52 GMT -6
The player does not have to be behind the play. It can be the lead blocker for the runner but if that defender doesn't see it coming then he has to lead with the hands or it is a penalty.
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Post by spectator2 on Oct 1, 2018 9:23:03 GMT -6
Wow, that is unbelievable!!! I didn’t know there were such new rules. My favorite part of every game was the feeling you got when you drove through a player, tackling, blocking, or carrying the ball. And.....I was “ear holed” plenty but never stopped loving it. Seems now a player is gonna need permission to even block in space. Isn’t football a contact sport and as my daddy always told me “when the chin strap snaps it’s an agreement to give more the the next guy”!
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Post by junctionboy on Oct 1, 2018 9:34:30 GMT -6
Friday night at the game in Eunice a Church Point player made a hell of a block on a Eunice player during a run back. He really flattened him chest high. The ref called a penalty on him. The sign he gave was his two fists in front of him touching each other knuckle to knuckle. Anyone know what penalty that is? ?? Not totally sure me we had 3 hands to the head called in one game. Apparently that is new. We had A Ref on the forum but a lame coach coach reported him for commenting and he had to exit the forum. It is a blindside block which is a personal foul. If a player is going to do a blind side block now he must lead with his hand. And it's not that officials are having a hard time calling it - the officials must see the entire sequence of the block - which if it is a 5 man crew is very difficult. .... for those of you saying this is "not football" well when you played - the players were smaller, slower and the collisions much less violent. 100 years ago boxing was the number one HS sport in LA.... do you want football to go the way of boxing? heck 25 years ago you could still block below the waist in open field - how many knees did that cost?
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Post by indy on Oct 1, 2018 9:45:46 GMT -6
Not totally sure me we had 3 hands to the head called in one game. Apparently that is new. We had A Ref on the forum but a lame coach coach reported him for commenting and he had to exit the forum. It is a blindside block which is a personal foul. If a player is going to do a blind side block now he must lead with his hand. And it's not that officials are having a hard time calling it - the officials must see the entire sequence of the block - which if it is a 5 man crew is very difficult. .... for those of you saying this is "not football" well when you played - the players were smaller, slower and the collisions much less violent. 100 years ago boxing was the number one HS sport in LA.... do you want football to go the way of boxing? heck 25 years ago you could still block below the waist in open field - how many knees did that cost? No one is arguing about new rules and calls regarding the safety of the players. But at some point you have to let them play. There is a difference between a cheap shot, and a good tackle or block. There is a difference between a well coached, ready to play kid, and one put out there unprepared.
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Post by junctionboy on Oct 1, 2018 10:08:49 GMT -6
It is a blindside block which is a personal foul. If a player is going to do a blind side block now he must lead with his hand. And it's not that officials are having a hard time calling it - the officials must see the entire sequence of the block - which if it is a 5 man crew is very difficult. .... for those of you saying this is "not football" well when you played - the players were smaller, slower and the collisions much less violent. 100 years ago boxing was the number one HS sport in LA.... do you want football to go the way of boxing? heck 25 years ago you could still block below the waist in open field - how many knees did that cost? No one is arguing about new rules and calls regarding the safety of the players. But at some point you have to let them play. There is a difference between a cheap shot, and a good tackle or block. There is a difference between a well coached, ready to play kid, and one put out there unprepared. Being prepared and well coached has nothing to do with being a victim of a blindside block... last year's div 1 final(its' hard to find a team better coached and prepared as catholic)a catholic high player was blindside blocked by a JC player late in the game which took away a first down pick up. In Catholic's final drive they had a similar situation except the player led with open hands.. - NO FOUL..... You can't just let them play like that - not anymore - not if football is going to survive - for the first time nationwide football participation is down....
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