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Post by offthedeck on May 17, 2019 7:44:26 GMT -6
Genuinely curious ...
The biggest public in 1A is LaSalle (249), I think, and the smallest public in C is Johnson Bayou (34). That's a difference of 215 which is about on par with 2 & 3A differential. 4A and 5A have huge differential. I think Dutchtown has like 2500 kids while the smallest 5A McKinley has like barely 1200.
Thoughts anybody?
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Post by cjr3888 on May 17, 2019 8:21:11 GMT -6
Excellent idea but that is too simple for the LHSAA to figure out. Especially with the split, 1A could actually fill out a full bracket.
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on May 19, 2019 14:01:01 GMT -6
1A and B should be combined especially since Class B is just 1A schools that don't play football. But the Class B schools don't want that to happen. Class C is fine the way it is now.
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Post by offthedeck on May 19, 2019 15:07:26 GMT -6
1A and B should be combined especially since Class B is just 1A schools that don't play football. But the Class B schools don't want that to happen. Class C is fine the way it is now. Just looking at the difference between the biggest schools in 5A vs the smallest for instance .... seems like a no brainer those smaller schools should be combined. |
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on May 19, 2019 17:00:53 GMT -6
1A and B should be combined especially since Class B is just 1A schools that don't play football. But the Class B schools don't want that to happen. Class C is fine the way it is now. Just looking at the difference between the biggest schools in 5A vs the smallest for instance .... seems like a no brainer those smaller schools should be combined. Apples and oranges. You can't compare a school with 1200 students to a school with less than 100 students. |
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Post by wtiger on May 19, 2019 20:42:28 GMT -6
I think the top schools in C could compete, B definitely could. Would be nice to have a more competitive class top to bottom.
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Post by indy on May 19, 2019 21:38:18 GMT -6
It's amazing to see how on the "non select side" people care about enrollment ranges but on the "select side" y'all don't
3a privates have to play in a bracket with 4a privates - completely unfair and unconstitutional
class "C" privates have to play in a bracket with class "B" privates - completely unfair and unconstitutional
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Post by offthedeck on May 19, 2019 21:54:30 GMT -6
It's amazing to see how on the "non select side" people care about enrollment ranges but on the "select side" y'all don't 3a privates have to play in a bracket with 4a privates - completely unfair and unconstitutional class "C" privates have to play in a bracket with class "B" privates - completely unfair and unconstitutional Like I said, just curious...combining these classes though on the public side would actually make things more similar to what the select side is already dealing with 3 &4A/B & C already playing together. |
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Post by indy on May 20, 2019 7:57:57 GMT -6
my reply wasn't directed to you
and this may never happen again but i agree with 1994 on something
the gaps in 5a are not an applicable comparison to gaps at the lower levels
when a bracket such as 1a doesn't even have ten teams with a winning record i don't know if you can fix it
a team who would have been the seeded above all of these teams was excluded from playoff competition that's just wrong
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Post by Seabiscuit on May 23, 2019 15:22:40 GMT -6
There are actually some schools in class B that has 2A numbers so would you put them in 2A or just 1A? But do like this idea either way though.
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Post by chalmetteowl on May 23, 2019 16:02:55 GMT -6
i'm wondering myself how class 1A select schools play basketball and baseball in Division IV, but class B select schools with the same enrollment counts play those sports in Division V
i'm against the current class B existing. they all need to be class 1A-CNFs
and make class C the new class B
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Post by indy on May 23, 2019 19:50:38 GMT -6
For a school to be considered class B or class C they have to have a 1a enrollment
after that a school is just designated as non football
As it is currently having B & C without the "selects" isn't good
The best plan i've ever heard is that football would be set then redivide for basketball so smaller 1a could still be class C and not just moved up due to having a football team
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Post by retired on Jun 2, 2019 9:14:33 GMT -6
1A and B should be combined especially since Class B is just 1A schools that don't play football. But the Class B schools don't want that to happen. Class C is fine the way it is now. Just looking at the difference between the biggest schools in 5A vs the smallest for instance .... seems like a no brainer those smaller schools should be combined. There is a diminished advantage as enrollments go up. Also, you have to view it as percentages, not raw differences. The difference between say 300 students and 200 students is obviously 100 kids, but it represents a 33% differential. The difference between 1000 students and 900 students is also 100 kids, but it is only a 10% differential. A 33% differential would be 1200 and 900. |
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 2, 2019 12:19:05 GMT -6
There are actually some schools in class B that has 2A numbers so would you put them in 2A or just 1A? But do like this idea either way though. If a school has 2A numbers then they are classified 2A even if they don't play football. Some B schools might be close to the 2A cutoff but if their in B its because they fall in the 1A range. |
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Post by indy on Jun 3, 2019 11:03:34 GMT -6
Your are correct. And B and C are split exactly down the middle for schools less than 2a enrollment that don’t have football.
Do you feel a school with class C enrollment should be able to play class C baseball even if they offer football?
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Post by wtiger on Jun 3, 2019 16:44:23 GMT -6
Your are correct. And B and C are split exactly down the middle for schools less than 2a enrollment that don’t have football. Do you feel a school with class C enrollment should be able to play class C baseball even if they offer football? I would like to see it that way. I wouldn’t think it would be that hard having separate districts for football and other sports. |
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Post by Seabiscuit on Jun 4, 2019 7:25:23 GMT -6
There are actually some schools in class B that has 2A numbers so would you put them in 2A or just 1A? But do like this idea either way though. If a school has 2A numbers then they are classified 2A even if they don't play football. Some B schools might be close to the 2A cutoff but if their in B its because they fall in the 1A range. Ok thanks for clearing that up I didn't know that just knew there was a few schools that had more than us lol but now you mention it that makes more sense lol |
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Post by indy on Jun 4, 2019 12:36:14 GMT -6
The other thing that would do is you could help move up the dominate football programs without it affecting their other sports
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Post by astrosnation on Jun 18, 2019 16:29:30 GMT -6
What I think they should do is discontinue the football requirement for 1A then combine both Class B and C together. Take the "Big" Class B school that would qualify as a 1A school move them up. For example: Zwolle, Oak Hill, Anacoco, Choudrant and etc. Those schools along would make 1A stronger.
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Post by retired on Jun 18, 2019 18:30:46 GMT -6
What I think they should do is discontinue the football requirement for 1A then combine both Class B and C together. Take the "Big" Class B school that would qualify as a 1A school move them up. For example: Zwolle, Oak Hill, Anacoco, Choudrant and etc. Those schools along would make 1A stronger. I could be wrong, but don't non football schools (B and C) have a longer basketball season though? Would that be eliminated with your idea? |
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Post by wtiger on Jun 18, 2019 18:52:29 GMT -6
What I think they should do is discontinue the football requirement for 1A then combine both Class B and C together. Take the "Big" Class B school that would qualify as a 1A school move them up. For example: Zwolle, Oak Hill, Anacoco, Choudrant and etc. Those schools along would make 1A stronger. I could be wrong, but don't non football schools (B and C) have a longer basketball season though? Would that be eliminated with your idea? Yeah they do |
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 18, 2019 18:55:56 GMT -6
What I think they should do is discontinue the football requirement for 1A then combine both Class B and C together. Take the "Big" Class B school that would qualify as a 1A school move them up. For example: Zwolle, Oak Hill, Anacoco, Choudrant and etc. Those schools along would make 1A stronger. I could be wrong, but don't non football schools (B and C) have a longer basketball season though? Would that be eliminated with your idea? Class B and C get to play 10 more games than the football schools. There's no reason that it should eliminate their 10 extra games if B and 1A merged. 1A already has 61 schools in it though so its pretty crowded now. |
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Post by retired on Jun 19, 2019 8:27:58 GMT -6
I could be wrong, but don't non football schools (B and C) have a longer basketball season though? Would that be eliminated with your idea? Class B and C get to play 10 more games than the football schools. There's no reason that it should eliminate their 10 extra games if B and 1A merged. 1A already has 61 schools in it though so its pretty crowded now. Isn't there a good chance (particularly in small schools) that the schools without football would have a considerable advantage in those ten games if not more in the early season due to multi-sport athletes? Don't those schools currently start basketball season earlier than football playing schools? |
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Post by khsyellowjackets94 on Jun 19, 2019 8:45:27 GMT -6
Class B and C get to play 10 more games than the football schools. There's no reason that it should eliminate their 10 extra games if B and 1A merged. 1A already has 61 schools in it though so its pretty crowded now. Isn't there a good chance (particularly in small schools) that the schools without football would have a considerable advantage in those ten games if not more in the early season due to multi-sport athletes? Don't those schools currently start basketball season earlier than football playing schools? Yes they start earlier and that's the reason for Class B being separated from1A. They also have more chance for injury and most schools play out of Class in Pre-District anyway. By the time District starts, the football schools would have enough games under their belt. It's just basketball. They play 8-10 players at the most. In B and C probably less than that. I could see moving the top 10 enrollment schools to1A or just the ones with 210 but below the 2A cutoff, which I think is around 10 anyway. Then combine the rest with Class C. |
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