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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 18:27:42 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 18:27:42 GMT -6
Do you think phase one of reunification could be limit split to football only?
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 18:38:41 GMT -6
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Post by superdome2018 on Jun 14, 2019 18:38:41 GMT -6
Who knows Indy....I just don’t see football ever happening.But I may be wrong.
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 19:32:44 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 19:32:44 GMT -6
Next year I believe it’s only 8 teams in division I
Is it really fair for those kids to be collateral damage in this divide?
The worst is division v softball they can’t fill an 8 team bracket
It just seems there is room for compromise that isn’t arbitrarily punishing 90 schools for the sake of 2 or 3
Especially when you have Karr winners of 4 in a row and will likely make it 6 with the next two years
And please answer my question about Amite
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 19:58:51 GMT -6
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Post by superdome2018 on Jun 14, 2019 19:58:51 GMT -6
what’s your question?
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 20:01:57 GMT -6
So you know that the Amite qb was a Kentucky commit and living out of zone in Hammond. He stated in article he transferred to Amite to play football
How would you have felt if y’all lost to them instead of Welsh Knowing one of the top kids was out of zone?
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 20:08:54 GMT -6
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Post by superdome2018 on Jun 14, 2019 20:08:54 GMT -6
Those things need to be policed. If it’s a rule enforce it.
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 20:15:28 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 20:15:28 GMT -6
Here in lies the problem
The lhsaa doesn’t have jurisdiction over the local educational authority in each parish
These LEAs have different rules
Had the lhsaa sent someone in unless the kid would tell them I came here for football they couldn’t rule him ineligible after he sat his year
When you can stop open enrollment in public schools how is it fair to vote out private schools for having the same enrollment policies?
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 20:27:12 GMT -6
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Post by superdome2018 on Jun 14, 2019 20:27:12 GMT -6
Plain and simple he shouldn’t have been able to if he was on public record saying it was for athletic purposes.
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Jun 14, 2019 20:39:44 GMT -6
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 14, 2019 20:39:44 GMT -6
So you know that the Amite qb was a Kentucky commit and living out of zone in Hammond. He stated in article he transferred to Amite to play football How would you have felt if y’all lost to them instead of Welsh Knowing one of the top kids was out of zone? I think it's pretty much accepted that kids will try to go to whoever gives them the best opportunity to win and get recruited in their parish... But I think it's wrong to just assume a kid's ineligibility unless your facts on the matter are better than what Amite has. That's for the LHSAA to decide and not us.
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 20:52:11 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 20:52:11 GMT -6
Ok so let’s go with an example that lhsaa ruled kid ineligible and got overturned with third party arbitration
Qb from hahnville Transfer from Vandy Catholic
Kid found to be recruited and ruled ineligible Claimed to make bonafied move but yet back in Houma after football
How do you justify this?
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 20:53:15 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 20:53:15 GMT -6
To chalmette what your implying is that you’re ok with kids going where they feel they are going to be able to accomplish the goals they have?
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Superdome
Jun 14, 2019 21:04:12 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 14, 2019 21:04:12 GMT -6
Article was written after Amite’s game with Welsh
It wasn’t something the lhsaa had access to while he was playing football
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Jun 16, 2019 8:40:50 GMT -6
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 16, 2019 8:40:50 GMT -6
To chalmette what your implying is that you’re ok with kids going where they feel they are going to be able to accomplish the goals they have? everyone should be. Yes, where you play at matters for getting scholarships
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Jun 16, 2019 9:32:47 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 9:32:47 GMT -6
So if you’re ok with a public school kid going out of zone to a different public school
Why can’t the private school kid be out of zone?
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Post by roopride on Jun 16, 2019 11:10:07 GMT -6
Yes the QB is from Hammond. He transferred to Amite prior to his Jr season and was deemed ineligible due to living out of school attendance zone. He stayed at Amite without competing for his one year. He's not first case and won't be the last. BTW he is very talented but Amite has been a powerhouse for years now.
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 11:30:59 GMT -6
Amite beat Notre Dame in 1999 in the quarterfinals And 2004 in the state championship
Completely agree they’ve been really good forever
I was simple making a point the double standard of transfers and the fact that it’s not just “select” with out of zone kids
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Jun 16, 2019 13:03:54 GMT -6
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Post by roopride on Jun 16, 2019 13:03:54 GMT -6
This kind of goes back to the major reason for the split. Urban areas attendance zone vs rural. What is fair and a level playing field for sport? Honestly I liked the old 5 games in two days. Teams played according to your enrollment or choose to play up like JC & ECA did. But even back then we had kids that chose to drive to Kentwood than attend the school they were zoned to. Case by case the transfer was handled according to the rules of the LHSAA, meaning some sat out some were granted eligibility immediately. However, I haven't seen where either Kentwood or Amite actively recruited a kid from another school. How many schools have made it to the dome that had never been before 2013? I know Zachary is new household name.
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 13:58:33 GMT -6
We are on the same page on this
The two lightning rods for the split Evangel and John Curtis could not have done what they did without being in Shreveport and New Orleans respectively
Kentwood and Amite are the old guard The teams who won before it became much more watered down Kids have chooses to go there sometimes they weren’t zoned for them Not the same situation that the metro schools have were instead of one in five years or more it’s multiple kids ever season
I was in favor of the Notre Dame Metro / Rural plan because like you said it addressed the real issue
I suggested that like with the javelin old and new records are kept it should be the same for this era of the lhsaa Seems like you agree with that too
In addition I would like to add that I hope independent gets rolling again Tangy Parish has had some great football
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Post by btown on Jun 16, 2019 14:52:56 GMT -6
Indy You have made some of the best arguements I have seen since the split. Even if we go back we will still have a broke system.
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 15:02:36 GMT -6
Indy You have made some of the best arguements I have seen since the split. Even if we go back we will still have a broke system. As long as we have self serving, selfish leaders It will stay broken
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Superdome
Jun 16, 2019 15:06:05 GMT -6
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Post by knightly80 on Jun 16, 2019 15:06:05 GMT -6
Indy You have made some of the best arguements I have seen since the split. Even if we go back we will still have a broke system. Indy must have moved to Colorado and took up gummy bears because he has a whole different mentality as of late.
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Post by retired on Jun 16, 2019 15:07:33 GMT -6
We are on the same page on this The two lightning rods for the split Evangel and John Curtis could not have done what they did without being in Shreveport and New Orleans respectively Kentwood and Amite are the old guard The teams who won before it became much more watered down Kids have chooses to go there sometimes they weren’t zoned for them Not the same situation that the metro schools have were instead of one in five years or more it’s multiple kids ever season I was in favor of the Notre Dame Metro / Rural plan because like you said it addressed the real issue I suggested that like with the javelin old and new records are kept it should be the same for this era of the lhsaa Seems like you agree with that too In addition I would like to add that I hope independent gets rolling again Tangy Parish has had some great football I have asked before, but nobody ever posted...can someone lay out the details of the Metro Rural plan?
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Superdome
Jun 16, 2019 15:12:25 GMT -6
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 15:12:25 GMT -6
Indy You have made some of the best arguements I have seen since the split. Even if we go back we will still have a broke system. Indy must have moved to Colorado and took up gummy bears because he has a whole different mentality as of late. No, I took advanced poodle training classes recently.
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Jun 16, 2019 15:12:25 GMT -6
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Post by roopride on Jun 16, 2019 15:12:25 GMT -6
We are on the same page on this The two lightning rods for the split Evangel and John Curtis could not have done what they did without being in Shreveport and New Orleans respectively Kentwood and Amite are the old guard The teams who won before it became much more watered down Kids have chooses to go there sometimes they weren’t zoned for them Not the same situation that the metro schools have were instead of one in five years or more it’s multiple kids ever season I was in favor of the Notre Dame Metro / Rural plan because like you said it addressed the real issue I suggested that like with the javelin old and new records are kept it should be the same for this era of the lhsaa Seems like you agree with that too In addition I would like to add that I hope independent gets rolling again Tangy Parish has had some great football I have asked before, but nobody ever posted...can someone lay out the details of the Metro Rural plan? I wasn't referring to a particular plan, I was referring to the law of large numbers. The more students available the better your chance of getting highly talented athletes vs a town of few thousand.
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Post by retired on Jun 16, 2019 15:20:42 GMT -6
I have asked before, but nobody ever posted...can someone lay out the details of the Metro Rural plan? I wasn't referring to a particular plan, I was referring to the law of large numbers. The more students available the better your chance of getting highly talented athletes vs a town of few thousand. But indy (and others )have referred to a specific plan. I just was curious of the actual details and specifics of that plan, if they were known.
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Superdome
Jun 16, 2019 15:33:18 GMT -6
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Post by roopride on Jun 16, 2019 15:33:18 GMT -6
I wasn't referring to a particular plan, I was referring to the law of large numbers. The more students available the better your chance of getting highly talented athletes vs a town of few thousand. But indy (and others )have referred to a specific plan. I just was curious of the actual details and specifics of that plan, if they were known. I kinda remember something along the lines of S-M-L divisions for both select and nonselect making a total of 6 divisions. But with that plan class size gap would be very large for the Medium and Large groups. The Small schools probably benefit from this type of system. If my memory serves me correctly.
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 15:44:24 GMT -6
Send me your email via private message and I’ll get one if the nd coaches to send you the specific plan
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Post by retired on Jun 16, 2019 15:49:23 GMT -6
Send me your email via private message and I’ll get one if the nd coaches to send you the specific plan Oh that isn't necessary. I thought someone would know the details. Thanks for the offer though.
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Post by indy on Jun 16, 2019 15:55:49 GMT -6
I know some of the details
14 of the parishes have over half of the state’s population
The largest city in each parish is metro
Then for every 10,000 people that metro area extends one mile from the city
So if a city has 100,000 people and you are 10 miles from it you would be considered metro
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jun 17, 2019 8:42:57 GMT -6
I know some of the details 14 of the parishes have over half of the state’s population The largest city in each parish is metro Then for every 10,000 people that metro area extends one mile from the city So if a city has 100,000 people and you are 10 miles from it you would be considered metro the plan i saw said if you were in one of the 14 most populous parishes you'd be metro
everywhere else would be rural
yes, Chalmette would be in rural and that would have been a joke
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