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Post by bigred4 on May 3, 2016 15:35:53 GMT -6
This is Calvary's 1st softball championship. They have had good teams but have not dominated anything. Privates in 1 and 2A will always "generally" be better in softball and baseball for this main reason : most kids in privates have grown up playing softball/baseball since they were 5 years old - travel ball, Dixie leagues etc. They spend the $ for private lessons, camps etc. Unforunately, nowadays the more $ you spend related to all this will generally produce results on the baseball/softball field. That's just the way it is. You don't play pick up baseball games. You get better by doing all of the above. Of course, that doesn't mean you can't be a good player without all this. But when you talk about team,( and at the 1A and 2A level there are not that many students to pick from) then this is why privates are successful and it doesn't have anything to do with them being a private school. It's all about the $ and time it takes that those families are willing to put in.
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Post by eag on May 3, 2016 16:01:33 GMT -6
This is Calvary's 1st softball championship. They have had good teams but have not dominated anything. Privates in 1 and 2A will always "generally" be better in softball and baseball for this main reason : most kids in privates have grown up playing softball/baseball since they were 5 years old - travel ball, Dixie leagues etc. They spend the $ for private lessons, camps etc. Unforunately, nowadays the more $ you spend related to all this will generally produce results on the baseball/softball field. That's just the way it is. You don't play pick up baseball games. You get better by doing all of the above. Of course, that doesn't mean you can't be a good player without all this. But when you talk about team,( and at the 1A and 2A level there are not that many students to pick from) then this is why privates are successful and it doesn't have anything to do with them being a private school. It's all about the $ and time it takes that those families are willing to put in. I agree. The private schools I am familiar with have a fantastic baseball/softball culture that starts with T-ball. The overwhelming majority if not all the players on the roster have come through the traditional theaters. They have just played a ton of ball, way more than the kids at many public schools. And to Bob, yes, the softball coach where I'm from does teach private lessons. So do a whole bunch of other people, including public-school coaches and several people who do not affiliate with any high school at all who are the most popular coaches for lessons. I do not know what the fee is for playing softball, but it isn't anywhere in the universe of $3200. Might be like $300 or something. But regardless, I still come back to why move poor programs due to the success of good programs? It doesn't exactly take a rocket surgeon to figure out a plan that would move the good programs in any sport and leave the rest alone.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 5, 2016 7:31:19 GMT -6
Look at the 2nd round of the baseball brackets for 1A and 2A. In 1A, of the 16 teams in the 2nd round, 14 are private. In 2A 11 of the 16 are private. There is a reason the split was voted on. 1A and 2A schools are playing against uneven competition. Something needed to be done and hopefully it has been. In 1A 57% of the schools are private. If you have a repeat performance next year, 19 out of 32 teams that made the playoffs this year will be removed from the playoffs. That leaves 22 public schools in the playoffs with only 5 having a winning record and 19 did not win 10 games this year. Some of these public schools would be class B and C if they just dropped football and moved down. Most get their clocks cleaned snapping the ball verses hitting it. More quality baseball players go to private school that is the parents choice. Splitting it will never change that fact. In 2A 40% of the schools are private. If you have a repeat performance next year, 16 out of 32 teams will be removed from the playoffs. Of the remaining public schools, only 10 had winning records this year. No amount of separation will make the Ofer teams any better and schools that only play 12 or 13 baseball games cannot get the experience necessary to compete. If you look at the rankings, the schools that play more games are at the top of the brackets in both 1A and 2A. You will still have a great disparity, but a public school will be guaranteed a trophy. Finally how many 1A or 2A baseball players will be drafted by MLB this year from the state of LA? 1-2 NONE! How many
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Post by eag on May 5, 2016 8:23:16 GMT -6
Look at the 2nd round of the baseball brackets for 1A and 2A. In 1A, of the 16 teams in the 2nd round, 14 are private. In 2A 11 of the 16 are private. There is a reason the split was voted on. 1A and 2A schools are playing against uneven competition. Something needed to be done and hopefully it has been. In 1A 57% of the schools are private. If you have a repeat performance next year, 19 out of 32 teams that made the playoffs this year will be removed from the playoffs. That leaves 22 public schools in the playoffs with only 5 having a winning record and 19 did not win 10 games this year. Some of these public schools would be class B and C if they just dropped football and moved down. Most get their clocks cleaned snapping the ball verses hitting it. More quality baseball players go to private school that is the parents choice. Splitting it will never change that fact. In 2A 40% of the schools are private. If you have a repeat performance next year, 16 out of 32 teams will be removed from the playoffs. Of the remaining public schools, only 10 had winning records this year. No amount of separation will make the Ofer teams any better and schools that only play 12 or 13 baseball games cannot get the experience necessary to compete. If you look at the rankings, the schools that play more games are at the top of the brackets in both 1A and 2A. You will still have a great disparity, but a public school will be guaranteed a trophy. Finally how many 1A or 2A baseball players will be drafted by MLB this year from the state of LA? 1-2 NONE! How many Seems that the point is that on average, baseball is not a big thing in many public school systems. These numbers don't tell a story of good public programs getting beaten by supercharged private recruiting factories. These numbers tell a story of a sport that isn't really reliant on exceptional athleticism but instead a specific skill set honed over time, and a large variance in the importance some communities place on honing the set in their youth. Look at all the schools that only played a dozen or so games! Public schools with a baseball bias ( Kinder, Barbe, etc) seem to hold their own pretty well year in and year out. Looking at 2A there are only 10 public school teams that lost less than 10 games and 3 of those PLAYED less than 10 games, and 1 played 11.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 9:42:05 GMT -6
Cut playoff brackets down, which would have already been done if we would collectively move on and tweak what we have already voted in.
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Post by pioneer on May 5, 2016 10:12:33 GMT -6
Cut playoff brackets down, which would have already been done if we would collectively move on and tweak what we have already voted in. The whole issue is allowing more public schools to compete for championships. How is cutting the playoff field in half allowing them to do that?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 12:17:11 GMT -6
Cut playoff brackets down, which would have already been done if we would collectively move on and tweak what we have already voted in. The whole issue is allowing more public schools to compete for championships. How is cutting the playoff field in half allowing them to do that? Because thats not the issue. Thats the SPIN on the issue that private school pundits puke out ad nauseum
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Post by indy on May 5, 2016 12:23:51 GMT -6
The whole issue is allowing more public schools to compete for championships. How is cutting the playoff field in half allowing them to do that? Because thats not the issue. Thats the SPIN on the issue that private school pundits puke out ad nauseum Can't compete so split, that's the issue. Man up and let the kids play, big sissy
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Post by eag on May 5, 2016 12:59:25 GMT -6
The whole issue is allowing more public schools to compete for championships. How is cutting the playoff field in half allowing them to do that? Because thats not the issue. Thats the SPIN on the issue that private school pundits puke out ad nauseum That is crazy to say. If the issue is not about winning, then what difference does it make who you compete against. Sicily Island could play the New England Patriots if that were the case, and no one would care. If no private school had ever gone above .500 in any sport, would we still be talking about this? Of course not. Sorry, the spin is picking one small factor that you think leads to success and then isolating that as the actual issue. It is absurd.
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Post by Raven on May 5, 2016 13:21:25 GMT -6
The whole issue is allowing more public schools to compete for championships. How is cutting the playoff field in half allowing them to do that? That is the entire issue. Pro split supporters are quick to say it's not about championships or more public schools in the playoffs, but that is exactly what it is about. They say it's about separating schools that have an advantage. That's fine if that helps them sleep at night. However, if it's not about winning playoff games or about winning championships, you have to ask yourself why it was so important to separate those schools in the first place. If it's not about winning games and not about winning championships, then there would be absolutely no reason at all to force certain schools to play in a different playoff bracket. None. Anyone who says otherwise is just making excuses or is being dishonest about their true intentions. If it were about anything else, they wouldn't be pointing to all the private schools in the baseball/softball playoffs and wringing their hands in angst over how unfair it all is. Why is that even important if it's not about getting more public schools into the playoffs and having more public schools winning championships?
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Post by iknownuthing on May 5, 2016 18:03:50 GMT -6
Cut playoff brackets down, which would have already been done if we would collectively move on and tweak what we have already voted in. Even cutting the playoff brackets down to 16 teams, if you take just the public schools you have the majority of teams in 1A with losing records and a 4-20 team at #16. In 2A you end up with 1/3 of your teams with losing records and a 7-13 team at #16 in the public bracket. That's some real quality baseball right there.
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Post by pioneerforlife on May 5, 2016 22:37:49 GMT -6
Look at softball. In 2A there were 4 publics and 4 privates in Sulphur in the QF's, and lucky for us a public played a private in every game, with the privates outscoring the publics 37-3. In 1A there were only 2 publics in Sulphur and they went 0-2 against privates. So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. ND and Kaplan were in the same district last year. This year we dropped down to 2A.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 6, 2016 7:09:24 GMT -6
So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. ND and Kaplan were in the same district last year. This year we dropped down to 2A. That's exactly the point only stronger. You take a team that wins the state championship one year, and because the size of the school is diminished, you drop them down a class. More than likely they would have won 3A if they had stayed up. What does the LHSAA do with this moving forward after the private schools leave? Talk about inherent advantage.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 7:35:44 GMT -6
ND and Kaplan were in the same district last year. This year we dropped down to 2A. That's exactly the point only stronger. You take a team that wins the state championship one year, and because the size of the school is diminished, you drop them down a class. More than likely they would have won 3A if they had stayed up. What does the LHSAA do with this moving forward after the private schools leave? Talk about inherent advantage. 16 baseball teams left in 1A and 2A combined. 1 non select school. Talk about inherent advantage.
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Post by chalmetteowl on May 6, 2016 12:48:16 GMT -6
That's exactly the point only stronger. You take a team that wins the state championship one year, and because the size of the school is diminished, you drop them down a class. More than likely they would have won 3A if they had stayed up. What does the LHSAA do with this moving forward after the private schools leave? Talk about inherent advantage. 16 baseball teams left in 1A and 2A combined. 1 non select school. Talk about inherent advantage. So why split 5A?
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Post by iknownuthing on May 9, 2016 9:03:13 GMT -6
That's exactly the point only stronger. You take a team that wins the state championship one year, and because the size of the school is diminished, you drop them down a class. More than likely they would have won 3A if they had stayed up. What does the LHSAA do with this moving forward after the private schools leave? Talk about inherent advantage. 16 baseball teams left in 1A and 2A combined. 1 non select school. Talk about inherent advantage. Inherent advantage: 5A Zachary High school average victory margin in playoffs 26.25 ppg. Neville High School Average victory margin in playoffs 27 ppg. Lutcher High School average playoff margin of victory 20.8 ppg. Kinder average playoff margin of victory 23.25 ppg, Kentwood High school average victory margin in playoffs 26.25 ppg. Now that is an inherent and very apparent advantage across the board. But its only the private schools that have an inherent advantage. Mark my words, if the split holds as it is, these 5 schools will rack up John Curtis championship numbers in the next 10 to 15 years with total domination of the other public schools. Zachary, Neville and Lutcher are all Metro area schools with movement in and out of their zones by athletes from the surrounding area that choose them for athletic reasons, I know parents in all these areas and they tell me this is true and have moved into these schools zone to avoid paying for the alternative private schools where they use to live. Kinder is the beneficiary of tradition as a rural school with a casino in its back yard while Kentwood is the only public high school in a large rural region.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2016 6:59:07 GMT -6
Look at softball. In 2A there were 4 publics and 4 privates in Sulphur in the QF's, and lucky for us a public played a private in every game, with the privates outscoring the publics 37-3. In 1A there were only 2 publics in Sulphur and they went 0-2 against privates. So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets.
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Post by indy on May 10, 2016 7:45:44 GMT -6
So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets. Hang in there buddy, Bernie Sanders will get all that fixed for you.
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Post by chalmetteowl on May 10, 2016 8:44:39 GMT -6
So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets. all the more reason to dump the split so you can put those lil rich kids on their butts. you can't beat whom you never play
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 10, 2016 8:59:01 GMT -6
So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets. Have you ever had a kid in private school? Not sure if you are talking about all private schools or if you have a problem with a particular one. Every private school that I know or have been associated with all they do is fundraisers. If most of the split supporters (Principals) are like you then I don't see any plan that brings the association back together ever passing.
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Post by indy on May 10, 2016 9:07:49 GMT -6
Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets. Have you ever had a kid in private school? Not sure if you are talking about all private schools or if you have a problem with a particular one. Every private school that I know or have been associated with all they do is fundraisers. If most of the split supporters (Principals) are like you then I don't see any plan that brings the association back together ever passing. Air conditioned gyms are a HUGE advantage in girls softball. Need to split AC vs No AC. That'll fix it. Simple
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Post by iknownuthing on May 10, 2016 10:21:05 GMT -6
Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets. Have you ever had a kid in private school? Not sure if you are talking about all private schools or if you have a problem with a particular one. Every private school that I know or have been associated with all they do is fundraisers. If most of the split supporters (Principals) are like you then I don't see any plan that brings the association back together ever passing. And here we have another myth being perpetrated. That private schools have automatic and magical money while poor public schools have none. In the mean time, if you took all the budgets and revenues from all the private schools in the state of Louisiana multiply them by 5, (including foundation money) it would not come near what public schools in this state receive through taxation. Typically, it will be stated these rich private schools have all the money. The answer is simply not true. All private schools operate on a student count number. Unlike EVERY parish in this state, there is no subsidy for salaries from some entity such as the state, we pay 100%. In a addition we pay for the public schools systems too. In Lafayette parish nearly 25% is in private, meanwhile those parents will pay upwards 50% to 60% of the school board taxes. And then they are denied services for which their taxes support, such as routed bus service to their school of choice. While private schools seem to have more money and nicer things, it is because of corruption and incompetence in the public school board space. Just look at Lafayette Parish, which failed to do basic maintenance for years on their facilities and are now paying the price for repair to those unkempt properties. Top heavy administration and school board cronies put your school in failure, not the successful private school down the road.
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Post by eag on May 10, 2016 12:27:19 GMT -6
So what do you do with Kaplan, which won their second consecutive 3A softball championship? Either they are not in the spirit of the eligibility rules or they some some inherent advantage? How could it be that a 3A public school could compete if not. After all Notre Dame is in that same class and district I believe. Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets.And there you have it. The real reason for only entertaining a split of public/ private vs any other plan is exposed. The worst part is it is totally incorrect factually. You are upset at having to fundraise for bus trips to playoffs? Guess what - at a private school every practice jersey, bus, lawn mower, helmet, soccer ball, or whatever is paid for by funds raised by the parents. EVERY item. Are there a few with some endowments? Sure, I guess. But guess how they got that?? Most of the privates are like ours. We are almost entirely supported by tuition and fees (95ish %) with the rest being donations which basically come from the same people who are paying the tuition and fees.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 11, 2016 8:25:21 GMT -6
Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets.And there you have it. The real reason for only entertaining a split of public/ private vs any other plan is exposed. The worst part is it is totally incorrect factually. You are upset at having to fundraise for bus trips to playoffs? Guess what - at a private school every practice jersey, bus, lawn mower, helmet, soccer ball, or whatever is paid for by funds raised by the parents. EVERY item. Are there a few with some endowments? Sure, I guess. But guess how they got that?? Most of the privates are like ours. We are almost entirely supported by tuition and fees (95ish %) with the rest being donations which basically come from the same people who are paying the tuition and fees. Endowments can only be used for their stated purpose. They are designated gifts, mostly used to provide for salary increases, educational facility improvements and other non sports needs. Some endowments are setup for the students AFTER they graduate from high school and help pay for their education. At STM we have several Scholarship endowments that provide for tuition assistance to students with high academic achievement and/or character. Mostly they go to the kids that are heading to out of state schools that do not accept TOPS. The list of schools, West Point, Annapolis, Harvard, Colgate, Brown University, Stanford and Yale. None of these are for ATHLETIC prowess but for ACADEMIC success. BUT, many of these kids excelled athletically as well as academically. All endowments are privately funded and not part of any government handout.
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Post by eag on May 11, 2016 11:03:43 GMT -6
It just chaps me when I see stuff like what was said above when I know that at our small private school money is always a question. EVERYTHING we do is basically fundraising. State, parish, city etc pays for zero.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 11, 2016 14:28:04 GMT -6
Kaplan didnt win two in a row. Check your facts, they lost to a private school last year in the finals. And i can tell you that unless they get another Abbey in the circle, they arent winning it next year. The fact that you bring up a public school softball team that actually won a championship must either surprise you or hurts your pride as junior league'r. Public schools winning titles isnt what the split is about. We're basically tired of your silver spoon'd b.s., watching you reload ever year and not having to kill yourself fundraising just get buses for road trips. We dont get hand outs, hell our school board cant even muster up enough money to put a.c in our freaking gyms. You people just live in a different world then we do. No one is blaming you, im sure its wonderful on your side of the fence. And i speak for most public's in this city, we all get the sh%$'s at just the site of your spoiled kids and their chromed out helmets.And there you have it. The real reason for only entertaining a split of public/ private vs any other plan is exposed. The worst part is it is totally incorrect factually. You are upset at having to fundraise for bus trips to playoffs? Guess what - at a private school every practice jersey, bus, lawn mower, helmet, soccer ball, or whatever is paid for by funds raised by the parents. EVERY item. Are there a few with some endowments? Sure, I guess. But guess how they got that?? Most of the privates are like ours. We are almost entirely supported by tuition and fees (95ish %) with the rest being donations which basically come from the same people who are paying the tuition and fees. If the powers in charge (Principals, especially the non-select) feel this way there is no way of the association ever coming back together. If the Catholic Schools are seriously considering leaving the LHSAA then I hope they have a plan. If they are leaving I would hope that they leave now rather than waiting for a plan that will never have chance of passing.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 8:57:40 GMT -6
And there you have it. The real reason for only entertaining a split of public/ private vs any other plan is exposed. The worst part is it is totally incorrect factually. You are upset at having to fundraise for bus trips to playoffs? Guess what - at a private school every practice jersey, bus, lawn mower, helmet, soccer ball, or whatever is paid for by funds raised by the parents. EVERY item. Are there a few with some endowments? Sure, I guess. But guess how they got that?? Most of the privates are like ours. We are almost entirely supported by tuition and fees (95ish %) with the rest being donations which basically come from the same people who are paying the tuition and fees. If the powers in charge (Principals, especially the non-select) feel this way there is no way of the association ever coming back together. If the Catholic Schools are seriously considering leaving the LHSAA then I hope they have a plan. If they are leaving I would hope that they leave now rather than waiting for a plan that will never have chance of passing. Agreed! Now is the time for them to bail. Maybe June 9th...
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Post by indy on May 16, 2016 7:42:42 GMT -6
If the powers in charge (Principals, especially the non-select) feel this way there is no way of the association ever coming back together. If the Catholic Schools are seriously considering leaving the LHSAA then I hope they have a plan. If they are leaving I would hope that they leave now rather than waiting for a plan that will never have chance of passing. Agreed! Now is the time for them to bail. Maybe June 9th... Guessing June 9th is not near as an important date to BigBo b as May 13th. Congrats to to BigBo b!!
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Post by iknownuthing on May 16, 2016 9:47:08 GMT -6
Here is a breakdown from the state baseball playoffs historically for the last time there will ever be a true High School State Champion in Baseball in the State of Louisiana.
5A Champion Barbe, Runner Up Byrd Two public schools. I know Byrd is a Magnet, but its a public school. Only one private school made the final 4. 4A Champion Teurlings Runner Up W. Ouachita. 50-50 split public vs Private in the final 4 with a Private champion. 3A Champion W. Feliciana, Runner up S. Beuaregard, Only one private school in the final 4. Public champion. 2A Champion St. Thomas Aqunais, Runner up St. Charles Catholic, All private final 4, Three out of the 4 from Metro Areas. 1A Champion Central Catholic MC, Runner up Oak Grove 3 out of 4 private schools in final 4 all rural. B Champion Fairview, Runner Up Grace Christian. Three out of 4 public schools in final 4 all rural. C Champion Claiborne Christian Runner up Downsville, Private champion, Three out of 4 schools were public all rural.
How this will change now that the public school have gutted the LHSAA like mullet.
5A will have relatively little change and Barbe will continuing as the dominate baseball program in the state, why even show up. 4A Will have minor changes but will lack real competition next year. W. Ouachita and Neville will dominate the Public school championships moving forward with Sam Houston being a factor if they move back down, Not likely. 3A Will have minor changes but will probably be the most competitive of all the public school baseball championships moving forward. 2A There will be no baseball in 2A going forward. This class will be desolved as it exist now and will be consolidated with 1A. Larger 2A public schools hoping to get a championship ring will be discouraged as they are bumped to 3A. 1A Smaller 1A, B and C will all be consolidated into a single class. Due to lack of numbers and this may very well be the last championship for any B/C class schools.
How this will change private schools.
If they stay in the LHSAA: Div I will be highly competitive but have few schools true to class size with possibly a few move ups. Div II will consist of move ups but will be dominated by Teurlings, STM and St Michaels if one or two do not move up to Div I, this could be where Notre Dame ends up will consist of 3A and 4A private schools. Div III most competitive but would consist mainly of 3A and 2A private schools. Div IV 1A/B.C Dominated by the 1A schools.
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Post by pioneerforlife on May 16, 2016 21:02:57 GMT -6
Here is a breakdown from the state baseball playoffs historically for the last time there will ever be a true High School State Champion in Baseball in the State of Louisiana. 5A Champion Barbe, Runner Up Byrd Two public schools. I know Byrd is a Magnet, but its a public school. Only one private school made the final 4. 4A Champion Teurlings Runner Up W. Ouachita. 50-50 split public vs Private in the final 4 with a Private champion. 3A Champion W. Feliciana, Runner up S. Beuaregard, Only one private school in the final 4. Public champion. 2A Champion St. Thomas Aqunais, Runner up St. Charles Catholic, All private final 4, Three out of the 4 from Metro Areas. 1A Champion Central Catholic MC, Runner up Oak Grove 3 out of 4 private schools in final 4 all rural. B Champion Fairview, Runner Up Grace Christian. Three out of 4 public schools in final 4 all rural. C Champion Claiborne Christian Runner up Downsville, Private champion, Three out of 4 schools were public all rural. How this will change now that the public school have gutted the LHSAA like mullet. 5A will have relatively little change and Barbe will continuing as the dominate baseball program in the state, why even show up. 4A Will have minor changes but will lack real competition next year. W. Ouachita and Neville will dominate the Public school championships moving forward with Sam Houston being a factor if they move back down, Not likely. 3A Will have minor changes but will probably be the most competitive of all the public school baseball championships moving forward. 2A There will be no baseball in 2A going forward. This class will be desolved as it exist now and will be consolidated with 1A. Larger 2A public schools hoping to get a championship ring will be discouraged as they are bumped to 3A. 1A Smaller 1A, B and C will all be consolidated into a single class. Due to lack of numbers and this may very well be the last championship for any B/C class schools. How this will change private schools. If they stay in the LHSAA: Div I will be highly competitive but have few schools true to class size with possibly a few move ups. Div II will consist of move ups but will be dominated by Teurlings, STM and St Michaels if one or two do not move up to Div I, this could be where Notre Dame ends up will consist of 3A and 4A private schools. Div III most competitive but would consist mainly of 3A and 2A private schools. Div IV 1A/B.C Dominated by the 1A schools. Div 3 for us
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