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Post by eag on May 25, 2016 15:43:50 GMT -6
I've seen this answer before from someone else: if a school gets 80 kids from 1 or gets 80 kids from 5 small schools what is the difference. The Catholic Diocese does the same thing with the schools in the Diocese as what you are saying about the public schools, except the tax dollars used to support the school. With the Catholic School the parents of the students are the ones supporting the school, as well as the public schools with their tax dollars. If I spread 5 middle schools out over a large area and are able to pick the best, and yes I said the best from each, then that is a big advantage. I cannot see any private high school allowing top student athletes to leave the middle and not go to their private school. Middle schools stretching from Iota to Church Point is a big area. How does the private high school control this? Where I am, quite a number of the catholic elementary school kids go to public high schools. Nothing in the world the catholic high school can do about it. They don't have any authority to control it -- it is a parental decision. In addition, I don't know of any Catholic school that "picks the best from each". Not one. Most Catholic high schools have a few feeder elementary schools and they are quite happy to take each and every kid that comes from that feeder system, just like the public system. No picking, no denying, really just hoping they all come. Of course, they aren't captive like the Public feeder kids are. Somehow, though, that's an advantage for private schools, to have to wonder and worry which of the elementary kids will choose to come and enroll vs go the public school (free) route....
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Post by iknownuthing on May 25, 2016 17:37:16 GMT -6
If I spread 5 middle schools out over a large area and are able to pick the best, and yes I said the best from each, then that is a big advantage. I cannot see any private high school allowing top student athletes to leave the middle and not go to their private school. Middle schools stretching from Iota to Church Point is a big area. How does the private high school control this? Where I am, quite a number of the catholic elementary school kids go to public high schools. Nothing in the world the catholic high school can do about it. They don't have any authority to control it -- it is a parental decision. In addition, I don't know of any Catholic school that "picks the best from each". Not one. Most Catholic high schools have a few feeder elementary schools and they are quite happy to take each and every kid that comes from that feeder system, just like the public system. No picking, no denying, really just hoping they all come. Of course, they aren't captive like the Public feeder kids are. Somehow, though, that's an advantage for private schools, to have to wonder and worry which of the elementary kids will choose to come and enroll vs go the public school (free) route.... STM scenario. STM has 4 feeder schools, Cathedral, Fatima, St. Pius X and St. Cecilia. About 99% of the kids from Fatima, Cathedral and Pius go to STM. Some go to Teurlings (few) and some go to public high schools (few) St. Cecilia is a differnt matter, it use to be that about 75% went to STM but now it is down to about 45% go to STM, 40% to Teurlings and the remainder to Comeaux High. STM has NO control over where those kids go. Why do so many kids choose Teurlings, well it might be that the Teurlings head coach's wife teaches at St. Cecilia and he is part of the parish where he lives in Broussard. Size wise, Cathedral, Fatima and Pius go over 750 students each and send about 75 freshmen from each school annually to STM. Teurlings on the other hand has St. Genevieve, Carencro Catholic, St. Bernard in Breaux Bridge and Trinity in St. Martinville as official feeders. Trinity closed last year. That is their feeder system. Teurlings has no hold on any of those kids other than tradition. Same as STM. Coming up, there is a new Catholic School in Scott and I think they will have to make a decision very soon of where they will feed their students. As for as proximity goes the natural choice is STM, but that does not make it so, they could also end up at Notre Dame in Crowley. We will see what the Bishop does very soon.
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Post by btown on May 25, 2016 20:08:41 GMT -6
How does the private high school control this? Where I am, quite a number of the catholic elementary school kids go to public high schools. Nothing in the world the catholic high school can do about it. They don't have any authority to control it -- it is a parental decision. In addition, I don't know of any Catholic school that "picks the best from each". Not one. Most Catholic high schools have a few feeder elementary schools and they are quite happy to take each and every kid that comes from that feeder system, just like the public system. No picking, no denying, really just hoping they all come. Of course, they aren't captive like the Public feeder kids are. Somehow, though, that's an advantage for private schools, to have to wonder and worry which of the elementary kids will choose to come and enroll vs go the public school (free) route.... STM scenario. STM has 4 feeder schools, Cathedral, Fatima, St. Pius X and St. Cecilia. About 99% of the kids from Fatima, Cathedral and Pius go to STM. Some go to Teurlings (few) and some go to public high schools (few) St. Cecilia is a differnt matter, it use to be that about 75% went to STM but now it is down to about 45% go to STM, 40% to Teurlings and the remainder to Comeaux High. STM has NO control over where those kids go. Why do so many kids choose Teurlings, well it might be that the Teurlings head coach's wife teaches at St. Cecilia and he is part of the parish where he lives in Broussard. Size wise, Cathedral, Fatima and Pius go over 750 students each and send about 75 freshmen from each school annually to STM. Teurlings on the other hand has St. Genevieve, Carencro Catholic, St. Bernard in Breaux Bridge and Trinity in St. Martinville as official feeders. Trinity closed last year. That is their feeder system. Teurlings has no hold on any of those kids other than tradition. Same as STM. Coming up, there is a new Catholic School in Scott and I think they will have to make a decision very soon of where they will feed their students. As for as proximity goes the natural choice is STM, but that does not make it so, they could also end up at Notre Dame in Crowley. We will see what the Bishop does very soon. You keeping telling yourself they cannot control if the kids goes to the high school and maybe you will start believing.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:11:18 GMT -6
How does the private high school control this? Where I am, quite a number of the catholic elementary school kids go to public high schools. Nothing in the world the catholic high school can do about it. They don't have any authority to control it -- it is a parental decision. In addition, I don't know of any Catholic school that "picks the best from each". Not one. Most Catholic high schools have a few feeder elementary schools and they are quite happy to take each and every kid that comes from that feeder system, just like the public system. No picking, no denying, really just hoping they all come. Of course, they aren't captive like the Public feeder kids are. Somehow, though, that's an advantage for private schools, to have to wonder and worry which of the elementary kids will choose to come and enroll vs go the public school (free) route.... STM scenario. STM has 4 feeder schools, Cathedral, Fatima, St. Pius X and St. Cecilia. About 99% of the kids from Fatima, Cathedral and Pius go to STM. Some go to Teurlings (few) and some go to public high schools (few) St. Cecilia is a differnt matter, it use to be that about 75% went to STM but now it is down to about 45% go to STM, 40% to Teurlings and the remainder to Comeaux High. STM has NO control over where those kids go. Why do so many kids choose Teurlings, well it might be that the Teurlings head coach's wife teaches at St. Cecilia and he is part of the parish where he lives in Broussard. Size wise, Cathedral, Fatima and Pius go over 750 students each and send about 75 freshmen from each school annually to STM. Teurlings on the other hand has St. Genevieve, Carencro Catholic, St. Bernard in Breaux Bridge and Trinity in St. Martinville as official feeders. Trinity closed last year. That is their feeder system. Teurlings has no hold on any of those kids other than tradition. Same as STM. Coming up, there is a new Catholic School in Scott and I think they will have to make a decision very soon of where they will feed their students. As for as proximity goes the natural choice is STM, but that does not make it so, they could also end up at Notre Dame in Crowley. We will see what the Bishop does very soon. The bishop is definitely not going to take athletics into consideration. The catholic schools, as far as I'm concerned, has done nothing wrong. ANY devout Catholic that can afford it, would probably send his child to a Catholic school.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 9:57:07 GMT -6
I've seen this answer before from someone else: if a school gets 80 kids from 1 or gets 80 kids from 5 small schools what is the difference. The Catholic Diocese does the same thing with the schools in the Diocese as what you are saying about the public schools, except the tax dollars used to support the school. With the Catholic School the parents of the students are the ones supporting the school, as well as the public schools with their tax dollars. If I spread 5 middle schools out over a large area and are able to pick the best, and yes I said the best from each, then that is a big advantage. I cannot see any private high school allowing top student athletes to leave the middle and not go to their private school. Middle schools stretching from Iota to Church Point is a big area. This just shows how delusional and narrow minded you can be. Allow? We would love to have them all but the truth is 40% go to public schools and a few go to Northside Christian. If we choose we not doing to good. Crowley High qb who started the last 3 years and 4 years in baseball went to st Mikes for 10 years pre K-8th grade. You never heard 1 bad thing said, in fact he had all of ND as fans. Schools private and public all over the state have consolidated leaving k-8 campuses with no high school. In Acadia we have 6 rural k-8 schools with no high school. Maybe kinder is unique that no one other than kinder elementary goes there? God forbid if a private school opened next door, I'm guessing you would have an aneurism and your brain would blow out your ears.
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Post by GUNSLINGER on May 26, 2016 10:38:13 GMT -6
btown you asked the question: So what do you do in those situations? I tried to answer your question with the answer a lot of "Split Supporters" have given. Then what do you do when 4-5 kids a year come to ND from OLI in Jeff Davis parish. I would like to think those parents have a right to choose also. Or when 4-5 kids from Avoyelles Parish Catholic Schools choose to go to Menard. This is one of the reasons for the "Split" if this can't be worked out where it is beneficial to the kids/parents then why have a meeting, vote on other plans, or not just "Split" the entire association. There is a big differenc in 4-5 kids that travel from about 5 miles over the parish line to Basile, which is agreed on by both parishes, bounderies set and tax dollars used to support the school from the other parish. To private school that has 5 middle schools attached to them. I see a big difference, that is why I say there is no reason to argue, we see it different. I'm willing to bet that if those 4 or 5 kids going to Basile were all stud athletes that were THE reason Basile was playing for/winning multiple state championships year in and year our, you'd be singing a different tune. See, that's the problem - there can't be a "grey" area. You pass rules, they are black and white. Either the rule is being followed, or it is not. I like the idea of the multiplier only applying to percentage of kids from out of zone AND having it apply to EVERY SCHOOL, public and private. I've said before, monitoring it would be easy - we live in a world of computers and huge databases of student info. When students enroll, their physical address that they list on enrollment papers can be run against the school zone boundaries and determined if in/out of zone. Of course, what it all comes back to, this depends on the honesty of people when they supply the information - and the other key element of ANY plan is investigation and enforcement when people are found to be falsifying/breaking the rules.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 10:59:37 GMT -6
There is a big differenc in 4-5 kids that travel from about 5 miles over the parish line to Basile, which is agreed on by both parishes, bounderies set and tax dollars used to support the school from the other parish. To private school that has 5 middle schools attached to them. I see a big difference, that is why I say there is no reason to argue, we see it different. I'm willing to bet that if those 4 or 5 kids going to Basile were all stud athletes that were THE reason Basile was playing for/winning multiple state championships year in and year our, you'd be singing a different tune. See, that's the problem - there can't be a "grey" area. You pass rules, they are black and white. Either the rule is being followed, or it is not. I like the idea of the multiplier only applying to percentage of kids from out of zone AND having it apply to EVERY SCHOOL, public and private. I've said before, monitoring it would be easy - we live in a world of computers and huge databases of student info. When students enroll, their physical address that they list on enrollment papers can be run against the school zone boundaries and determined if in/out of zone. Of course, what it all comes back to, this depends on the honesty of people when they supply the information - and the other key element of ANY plan is investigation and enforcement when people are found to be falsifying/breaking the rules. Why not designate every Jr high to a high school for zones. If they go to a different high school the make them ineligible for a year and add a multiplier to those kids. High schools with no feeder because the school is K-12 is its own zone.
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Post by btown on May 26, 2016 11:30:24 GMT -6
There is a big differenc in 4-5 kids that travel from about 5 miles over the parish line to Basile, which is agreed on by both parishes, bounderies set and tax dollars used to support the school from the other parish. To private school that has 5 middle schools attached to them. I see a big difference, that is why I say there is no reason to argue, we see it different. I'm willing to bet that if those 4 or 5 kids going to Basile were all stud athletes that were THE reason Basile was playing for/winning multiple state championships year in and year our, you'd be singing a different tune. See, that's the problem - there can't be a "grey" area. You pass rules, they are black and white. Either the rule is being followed, or it is not. I like the idea of the multiplier only applying to percentage of kids from out of zone AND having it apply to EVERY SCHOOL, public and private. I've said before, monitoring it would be easy - we live in a world of computers and huge databases of student info. When students enroll, their physical address that they list on enrollment papers can be run against the school zone boundaries and determined if in/out of zone. Of course, what it all comes back to, this depends on the honesty of people when they supply the information - and the other key element of ANY plan is investigation and enforcement when people are found to be falsifying/breaking the rules. No gray area those kids attend the school in their attendance zone. There are several parishes that have attendance zones that over lap parish lines especially in rural parishes.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 11:44:47 GMT -6
I'm willing to bet that if those 4 or 5 kids going to Basile were all stud athletes that were THE reason Basile was playing for/winning multiple state championships year in and year our, you'd be singing a different tune. See, that's the problem - there can't be a "grey" area. You pass rules, they are black and white. Either the rule is being followed, or it is not. I like the idea of the multiplier only applying to percentage of kids from out of zone AND having it apply to EVERY SCHOOL, public and private. I've said before, monitoring it would be easy - we live in a world of computers and huge databases of student info. When students enroll, their physical address that they list on enrollment papers can be run against the school zone boundaries and determined if in/out of zone. Of course, what it all comes back to, this depends on the honesty of people when they supply the information - and the other key element of ANY plan is investigation and enforcement when people are found to be falsifying/breaking the rules. No gray area those kids attend the school in their attendance zone. There are several parishes that have attendance zones that over lap parish lines especially in rural parishes. No grey areas? You are delusional or never left kinder. There are more grey areas in this state public and private then not.
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Post by eag on May 26, 2016 11:55:22 GMT -6
STM scenario. STM has 4 feeder schools, Cathedral, Fatima, St. Pius X and St. Cecilia. About 99% of the kids from Fatima, Cathedral and Pius go to STM. Some go to Teurlings (few) and some go to public high schools (few) St. Cecilia is a differnt matter, it use to be that about 75% went to STM but now it is down to about 45% go to STM, 40% to Teurlings and the remainder to Comeaux High. STM has NO control over where those kids go. Why do so many kids choose Teurlings, well it might be that the Teurlings head coach's wife teaches at St. Cecilia and he is part of the parish where he lives in Broussard. Size wise, Cathedral, Fatima and Pius go over 750 students each and send about 75 freshmen from each school annually to STM. Teurlings on the other hand has St. Genevieve, Carencro Catholic, St. Bernard in Breaux Bridge and Trinity in St. Martinville as official feeders. Trinity closed last year. That is their feeder system. Teurlings has no hold on any of those kids other than tradition. Same as STM. Coming up, there is a new Catholic School in Scott and I think they will have to make a decision very soon of where they will feed their students. As for as proximity goes the natural choice is STM, but that does not make it so, they could also end up at Notre Dame in Crowley. We will see what the Bishop does very soon. You keeping telling yourself they cannot control if the kids goes to the high school and maybe you will start believing. How in the world can a high school control kids who aren't enrolled there? It is 'unpossible'.
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Post by GUNSLINGER on May 26, 2016 13:37:39 GMT -6
I become more and more amazed and frustrated everyday at the socialism and idiocracy that is overtaking this country, and we see great examples of it every day on this board.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 26, 2016 14:19:14 GMT -6
I become more and more amazed and frustrated everyday at the socialism and idiocracy that is overtaking this country, and we see great examples of it every day on this board. Here is the thing. Cathedral is in the Lafayette High Zone, STM is in the Comeaux High Zone. Lafayette Elementary is in the Lafayette High zone. A kid going to Cathedral can be immediately eligible at either Lafayette high or STM due to the LHSAA feeder rule his freshman year. A kid going to Lafayette Middle, is only eligible if he chooses to go to Lafayette High. If his parents choose STM, he has to sit out a year, Yet that same kid can enter the school of choice program and be eligible at Comeaux High his freshman year. Double Standard?
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 26, 2016 15:49:03 GMT -6
I'm willing to bet that if those 4 or 5 kids going to Basile were all stud athletes that were THE reason Basile was playing for/winning multiple state championships year in and year our, you'd be singing a different tune. See, that's the problem - there can't be a "grey" area. You pass rules, they are black and white. Either the rule is being followed, or it is not. I like the idea of the multiplier only applying to percentage of kids from out of zone AND having it apply to EVERY SCHOOL, public and private. I've said before, monitoring it would be easy - we live in a world of computers and huge databases of student info. When students enroll, their physical address that they list on enrollment papers can be run against the school zone boundaries and determined if in/out of zone. Of course, what it all comes back to, this depends on the honesty of people when they supply the information - and the other key element of ANY plan is investigation and enforcement when people are found to be falsifying/breaking the rules. No gray area those kids attend the school in their attendance zone. There are several parishes that have attendance zones that over lap parish lines especially in rural parishes. btown...I know you won't agree with me, but this is the same for Catholic Schools in the Diocese. So if it's ok for the public schools WHY isn't ok for the Catholic Schools?
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Post by GUNSLINGER on May 26, 2016 16:23:25 GMT -6
I become more and more amazed and frustrated everyday at the socialism and idiocracy that is overtaking this country, and we see great examples of it every day on this board. Here is the thing. Cathedral is in the Lafayette High Zone, STM is in the Comeaux High Zone. Lafayette Elementary is in the Lafayette High zone. A kid going to Cathedral can be immediately eligible at either Lafayette high or STM due to the LHSAA feeder rule his freshman year. A kid going to Lafayette Middle, is only eligible if he chooses to go to Lafayette High. If his parents choose STM, he has to sit out a year, Yet that same kid can enter the school of choice program and be eligible at Comeaux High his freshman year. Double Standard? I agree with you buddy. I think that the rules have been bent and redefined and had exceptions made for so long now. To me, it should be pretty cut and dry.
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Post by btown on May 26, 2016 17:31:41 GMT -6
No gray area those kids attend the school in their attendance zone. There are several parishes that have attendance zones that over lap parish lines especially in rural parishes. btown...I know you won't agree with me, but this is the same for Catholic Schools in the Diocese. So if it's ok for the public schools WHY isn't ok for the Catholic Schools? Established attendance zones, that is what public schools have. ND had kids at one time coming from Elton. Let's see is St. Ed closer to Elton or is Crowley? You can live in Shreveport and send your kid to John Curtis if you want or you can live in New Orleans and send your Calvary Baptist, does not matter where you live you can go to any private school.
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Post by indy on May 26, 2016 17:39:25 GMT -6
btown...I know you won't agree with me, but this is the same for Catholic Schools in the Diocese. So if it's ok for the public schools WHY isn't ok for the Catholic Schools? Established attendance zones, that is what public schools have. ND had kids at one time coming from Elton. Let's see is St. Ed closer to Elton or is Crowley? You can live in Shreveport and send your kid to John Curtis if you want or you can live in New Orleans and send your Calvary Baptist, does not matter where you live you can go to any private school.
So advantage public schools. We have to accept kids from all over and still can't manage to have 400 students. According to you y'all have that many in walking distance that are forced to go with no choice of going anywhere else. Must be nice. Geez
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 8:53:34 GMT -6
btown...I know you won't agree with me, but this is the same for Catholic Schools in the Diocese. So if it's ok for the public schools WHY isn't ok for the Catholic Schools? Established attendance zones, that is what public schools have. ND had kids at one time coming from Elton. Let's see is St. Ed closer to Elton or is Crowley? You can live in Shreveport and send your kid to John Curtis if you want or you can live in New Orleans and send your Calvary Baptist, does not matter where you live you can go to any private school.
Yes, but everyone of those kids coming from out of JC, or Calvary or Evangel's zone has to sit out one year by rule. But actually and factually, you are not going to see very many making that 6 hour trek one way from Shreveport to John Curtis in River Ridge. It is a hypothetical that does not exist. The kid from Elton? Did he go to elementary school in Elton or at a ND feeder? Did the parents make the sacrifice to drive 40 minutes one way EVERY DAY including Saturdays to make practice and training? Or did they move to Crowley or send him to live with relatives? I know ND has some fine dormitories on campus. (Sarcasm) Years ago, I dated a girl from Elton whose parents sent her and her sister to a boarding school to get them OUT.... Just saying, you do what you have to do for your kids. Here is the thing, you want private schools to limit themselves but there is NO LHSAA rule requiring it. If you want, as a principal to limit who can go to a private school even thought interest in the success of the schools, and still be eligible, change the rules. But instead you voted to discriminate against an entire class that mostly get 99% or more of their students from within zone. There is not a single public high school in Lafayette Parish that gets that percentage of its students from its so called attendance zone. Sure we vent our students, for academic and disciplinary success, if we didn't we would be a public school without the taxation revenue stream. In other words, closed. You want the public to make policy for all private institutions. Not going to happen.
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Post by indy on May 27, 2016 9:18:08 GMT -6
Established attendance zones, that is what public schools have. ND had kids at one time coming from Elton. Let's see is St. Ed closer to Elton or is Crowley? You can live in Shreveport and send your kid to John Curtis if you want or you can live in New Orleans and send your Calvary Baptist, does not matter where you live you can go to any private school.
Yes, but everyone of those kids coming from out of JC, or Calvary or Evangel's zone has to sit out one year by rule. But actually and factually, you are not going to see very many making that 6 hour trek one way from Shreveport to John Curtis in River Ridge. It is a hypothetical that does not exist. The kid from Elton? Did he go to elementary school in Elton or at a ND feeder? Did the parents make the sacrifice to drive 40 minutes one way EVERY DAY including Saturdays to make practice and training? Or did they move to Crowley or send him to live with relatives? I know ND has some fine dormitories on campus. (Sarcasm) Years ago, I dated a girl from Elton whose parents sent her and her sister to a boarding school to get them OUT.... Just saying, you do what you have to do for your kids. Here is the thing, you want private schools to limit themselves but there is NO LHSAA rule requiring it. If you want, as a principal to limit who can go to a private school even thought interest in the success of the schools, and still be eligible, change the rules. But instead you voted to discriminate against an entire class that mostly get 99% or more of their students from within zone. There is not a single public high school in Lafayette Parish that gets that percentage of its students from its so called attendance zone. Sure we vent our students, for academic and disciplinary success, if we didn't we would be a public school without the taxation revenue stream. In other words, closed. You want the public to make policy for all private institutions. Not going to happen. The kid from Elton dad played at nd, his grandfather and all of his uncles and cousins. They bought a farm in Egan and moved. That's partly why nd has so much success. How many live in Kinder but work in lake Charles, sulphur or westlake? Maybe that's part of Kinders success. So why is it such a crime for ND but fine in Kinder?
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Post by btown on May 27, 2016 9:53:17 GMT -6
Yes, but everyone of those kids coming from out of JC, or Calvary or Evangel's zone has to sit out one year by rule. But actually and factually, you are not going to see very many making that 6 hour trek one way from Shreveport to John Curtis in River Ridge. It is a hypothetical that does not exist. The kid from Elton? Did he go to elementary school in Elton or at a ND feeder? Did the parents make the sacrifice to drive 40 minutes one way EVERY DAY including Saturdays to make practice and training? Or did they move to Crowley or send him to live with relatives? I know ND has some fine dormitories on campus. (Sarcasm) Years ago, I dated a girl from Elton whose parents sent her and her sister to a boarding school to get them OUT.... Just saying, you do what you have to do for your kids. Here is the thing, you want private schools to limit themselves but there is NO LHSAA rule requiring it. If you want, as a principal to limit who can go to a private school even thought interest in the success of the schools, and still be eligible, change the rules. But instead you voted to discriminate against an entire class that mostly get 99% or more of their students from within zone. There is not a single public high school in Lafayette Parish that gets that percentage of its students from its so called attendance zone. Sure we vent our students, for academic and disciplinary success, if we didn't we would be a public school without the taxation revenue stream. In other words, closed. You want the public to make policy for all private institutions. Not going to happen. The kid from Elton dad played at nd, his grandfather and all of his uncles and cousins. They bought a farm in Egan and moved. That's partly why nd has so much success. How many live in Kinder but work in lake Charles, sulphur or westlake? Maybe that's part of Kinders success. So why is it such a crime for ND but fine in Kinder? There are no attedance zones on adults jobs. You can live anywhere and work anywhere, do not know what that has to do with anything. We are talking about how big of a area that private schools can draw kids from and that proves the point that is does not matter where you live you can attend any private school you want, no matter what.
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Post by indy on May 27, 2016 10:03:26 GMT -6
The kid from Elton dad played at nd, his grandfather and all of his uncles and cousins. They bought a farm in Egan and moved. That's partly why nd has so much success. How many live in Kinder but work in lake Charles, sulphur or westlake? Maybe that's part of Kinders success. So why is it such a crime for ND but fine in Kinder? There are no attedance zones on adults jobs. You can live anywhere and work anywhere, do not know what that has to do with anything. We are talking about how big of a area that private schools can draw kids from and that proves the point that is does not matter where you live you can attend any private school you want, no matter what. Im not that familiar with Allen parish but apparently y'all have special zone police patrolling. Acadia and Lafayette parish basically have no zones anymore. It's just funny how you have selective hipocracy. Ok for Basie and church point and many other public schools to get out of parish and out of zone kids but not private schools.
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Post by btown on May 27, 2016 11:31:45 GMT -6
There are no attedance zones on adults jobs. You can live anywhere and work anywhere, do not know what that has to do with anything. We are talking about how big of a area that private schools can draw kids from and that proves the point that is does not matter where you live you can attend any private school you want, no matter what. Im not that familiar with Allen parish but apparently y'all have special zone police patrolling. Acadia and Lafayette parish basically have no zones anymore. It's just funny how you have selective hipocracy. Ok for Basie and church point and many other public schools to get out of parish and out of zone kids but not private schools. Basile does not get out of zone kids. Evangeline and Acadia parish have always established Basile school zone into the bordering residence of Acadia parish. Acadia parish tax dollars even support Basile. So where do you get out of zone. Part of Elton high school zones go into Allen parish, an established school zone by both parishes. All references have been to attendance zones, never parish. Just another part of your hipocracy trying to justify what happens in private school.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 27, 2016 11:56:35 GMT -6
Im not that familiar with Allen parish but apparently y'all have special zone police patrolling. Acadia and Lafayette parish basically have no zones anymore. It's just funny how you have selective hipocracy. Ok for Basie and church point and many other public schools to get out of parish and out of zone kids but not private schools. Basile does not get out of zone kids. Evangeline and Acadia parish have always established Basile school zone into the bordering residence of Acadia parish. Acadia parish tax dollars even support Basile. So where do you get out of zone. Part of Elton high school zones go into Allen parish, an established school zone by both parishes. All references have been to attendance zones, never parish. Just another part of your hipocracy trying to justify what happens in private school. I have used this example before on another thread....out of zone kids....Example, Sabine Parish just started a golf team at only 1 school in the parish (I think they have 6), any student that want to play golf is allowed to go to that school (Negreet) no matter what zone they live in. It is the same for football, only 1 school offers in the parish so any student can attend that school (Many) from any zone. Why isn't any "split supporter" upset with this, this is a competitive advantage that these schools have that other non-select aren't able to do. Is it because they are public schools?
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 12:08:44 GMT -6
Basile does not get out of zone kids. Evangeline and Acadia parish have always established Basile school zone into the bordering residence of Acadia parish. Acadia parish tax dollars even support Basile. So where do you get out of zone. Part of Elton high school zones go into Allen parish, an established school zone by both parishes. All references have been to attendance zones, never parish. Just another part of your hipocracy trying to justify what happens in private school. I have used this example before on another thread....out of zone kids....Example, Sabine Parish just started a golf team at only 1 school in the parish (I think they have 6), any student that want to play golf is allowed to go to that school (Negreet) no matter what zone they live in. It is the same for football, only 1 school offers in the parish so any student can attend that school (Many) from any zone. Why isn't any "split supporter" upset with this, this is a competitive advantage that these schools have that other non-select aren't able to do. Is it because they are public schools? We are beating a dead horse. It is embedded in the public sector mindset, that if they decide to go out of parish to get athlete's with an agreement with another parish it is ok. They can also with a decision of the school board to establish an open door policy and allow all schools to choose their students in a parish, because the government does it, its ok. But if one student from an outside zone goes to a private school it's an unfair, inherent advantage.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 12:13:57 GMT -6
I have used this example before on another thread....out of zone kids....Example, Sabine Parish just started a golf team at only 1 school in the parish (I think they have 6), any student that want to play golf is allowed to go to that school (Negreet) no matter what zone they live in. It is the same for football, only 1 school offers in the parish so any student can attend that school (Many) from any zone. Why isn't any "split supporter" upset with this, this is a competitive advantage that these schools have that other non-select aren't able to do. Is it because they are public schools? We are beating a dead horse. It is embedded in the public sector mindset, that if they decide to go out of parish to get athlete's with an agreement with another parish it is ok. They can also with a decision of the school board to establish an open door policy and allow all schools to choose their students in a parish, because the government does it, its ok. But if one student from an outside zone goes to a private school it's an unfair, inherent advantage. Its just time to move on and let bye gones be gone by. We will be fine and they will wonder what happened. Once we are gone look for the anger from the public schools to escalate. Total separation will not diminish that animosity, it will only heighten it with a whole new set of lies and accusations. But they will not be playing until the legislature finally intervenes and forces the LHSAA to allow extra associations competition from within the state.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2016 12:54:27 GMT -6
Basile does not get out of zone kids. Evangeline and Acadia parish have always established Basile school zone into the bordering residence of Acadia parish. Acadia parish tax dollars even support Basile. So where do you get out of zone. Part of Elton high school zones go into Allen parish, an established school zone by both parishes. All references have been to attendance zones, never parish. Just another part of your hipocracy trying to justify what happens in private school. I have used this example before on another thread....out of zone kids....Example, Sabine Parish just started a golf team at only 1 school in the parish (I think they have 6), any student that want to play golf is allowed to go to that school (Negreet) no matter what zone they live in. It is the same for football, only 1 school offers in the parish so any student can attend that school (Many) from any zone. Why isn't any "split supporter" upset with this, this is a competitive advantage that these schools have that other non-select aren't able to do. Is it because they are public schools? 1) Do your research on how many students ACTUALLY make this move to compete 2) Even if many do (and they dont) they can only make this move IN THE SAME SYSTEM. NOT ACROSS SYSTEM LINES TO PLAY AT ANY SCHOOL. BIG DIFFERENCE!!
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on May 27, 2016 13:32:40 GMT -6
I have used this example before on another thread....out of zone kids....Example, Sabine Parish just started a golf team at only 1 school in the parish (I think they have 6), any student that want to play golf is allowed to go to that school (Negreet) no matter what zone they live in. It is the same for football, only 1 school offers in the parish so any student can attend that school (Many) from any zone. Why isn't any "split supporter" upset with this, this is a competitive advantage that these schools have that other non-select aren't able to do. Is it because they are public schools? 1) Do your research on how many students ACTUALLY make this move to compete 2) Even if many do (and they dont) they can only make this move IN THE SAME SYSTEM. NOT ACROSS SYSTEM LINES TO PLAY AT ANY SCHOOL. BIG DIFFERENCE!! What do you mean by "system lines"? If you are talking about Parish lines you are correct, this is only for students in Sabine Parish. However, if you are talking about "school zones" then you are incorrect, any student in Sabine Parish that wants to play on a High School golf team will be allowed to attend Negreet High School, no matter what other school they are zoned for. This is the same with students that want to play football in the Parish, the are allowed to attend Many High School no matter what school they are zoned for. Can't say for sure how many are doing this today, but I do know of quite a few over the years that have done this. ---RESEARCH DONE---I Played on some of those teams at MHS, with the current Principal and Head Coach on them as well.
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Post by laprepfb on May 27, 2016 14:00:05 GMT -6
Im not that familiar with Allen parish but apparently y'all have special zone police patrolling. Acadia and Lafayette parish basically have no zones anymore. It's just funny how you have selective hipocracy. Ok for Basie and church point and many other public schools to get out of parish and out of zone kids but not private schools. Basile does not get out of zone kids. Evangeline and Acadia parish have always established Basile school zone into the bordering residence of Acadia parish. Acadia parish tax dollars even support Basile. So where do you get out of zone. Part of Elton high school zones go into Allen parish, an established school zone by both parishes. All references have been to attendance zones, never parish. Just another part of your hipocracy trying to justify what happens in private school. Ok, please answer this question and consider your answer carefully... Does every single football player at Kinder reside in the Kinder attendance zone as established by the Allen Parish SB?
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 14:08:57 GMT -6
I have used this example before on another thread....out of zone kids....Example, Sabine Parish just started a golf team at only 1 school in the parish (I think they have 6), any student that want to play golf is allowed to go to that school (Negreet) no matter what zone they live in. It is the same for football, only 1 school offers in the parish so any student can attend that school (Many) from any zone. Why isn't any "split supporter" upset with this, this is a competitive advantage that these schools have that other non-select aren't able to do. Is it because they are public schools? 1) Do your research on how many students ACTUALLY make this move to compete 2) Even if many do (and they dont) they can only make this move IN THE SAME SYSTEM. NOT ACROSS SYSTEM LINES TO PLAY AT ANY SCHOOL. BIG DIFFERENCE!! WRONG again, One of the public out of zone/out of system transfers for HIS SENIOR system, from Quachita to West MONROE, two seperate systems. He just made a headline this past week in W. Monroe you know who I am talking about Mr. Alabama. Do your own research and get your head screwed on correctly. A child that has NEVER attended a public school has NEVER been in the PUBLIC SYSTEM. There are many kids that go to STM and cannot make the grades that are athletes who transfer to the public system and are successful. But Rarely and are there any who come from a public high school to STM after the freshman year and made it to the next season. We did have a couple from St. Aug and Brother Martin after Katrina. But then you have that Bastrop cheaters thingy hanging over your head. That was all above board at Bastrop wasn't it, someone should have done jail time for that misuse of public vehicles, took it out of state without permission. Chances are if your struggling to make grades in a public school you will face abject failure at STM and most any private school. You see, its the academics that foils them. Now, There was a kid that went to Teurlings, but he had to sit out a year and then after it was all said and done the LHSAA sided with BB high and forced him back into high school in Breaux Bridge. They said he was not legally at Teurlings because he was expelled from Breaux Bridge. But after the LHSAA ruled in Breaux Bridges favor they accepted all his grades from Teurlings so he could graduate on time. HUMMM..... And then there is the kid that is at Notre Dame, but they followed the protocol setup by the LHSAA, made the bonefide move to Crowley and its all good. Funny thing, you get your nose out of joint about that transfer, but when studly left Gueydan for Crowley high school and told the newspaper it was to play for a better football team, there was no crying about that transfer. Oh yeah that was for academics all right, from a B school to a D school. Hypocrite!!! So here is the challenge for you, name one kid, ONE, that went from a local public high school to a local or even out of zone neighbor parish private school without an approval from the LHSAA and played immediately without forfeiture of games. Name one. Prove your contentions or stop making false accusations.
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Post by pioneer on May 27, 2016 14:17:50 GMT -6
studly's father actually approached ND first but wanted a free ride. He was quickly sent on his merry way.
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Post by iknownuthing on May 27, 2016 14:47:18 GMT -6
studly's father actually approached ND first but wanted a free ride. He was quickly sent on his merry way. Yeah, I understood that was conveniently looked over. We had a situation where an exceptional basketball player failed to return after Christmas break this year. Transferred to another Private school by the father. Spent two weeks at new school, and the Momma is back in the principals office begging to come back to school. Player is allowed back in school, but when they met with the basketball coach he left it up to the team as to whether or not the player could return to the team. The answer was NOT.
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