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Post by pioneer on Jul 8, 2016 13:44:21 GMT -6
I never used the work pick, but private school can have kid legal attend their school from a larger area than public schools. Saying the State shows that there is no limit to how far the circle is. When you have a ability to get the best Student athelet out of a large area you have an advantage.I'd be curious to see-- if we took every private school and evaluated the athletes within 50 miles of that school, I wonder how many of them would actually have the best athlete in the area on their roster. Then, I'd like to see how many of those are NOT kids from local, long-term feeder schools. We have a winner
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Post by pinion on Jul 8, 2016 14:27:23 GMT -6
I noticed KBanes mentioned private school scholarships. That gets mentioned a lot and I really want to know why it matters who pays for a kid to go to a school? We all pay for kids to attend public schools. So what difference does it make if someone is funding a kid to attend a private school?
I pay for my kid to attend a private school and I pay for everyone else's kids to attend a public school. I'm just not sure what it matters so much to some people. Folks act like if someone wants to fund a kid going to a private school it's terrible, but when we're forced (via taxation) to fund public schools, that's okay.
Because to me, it's basically saying if I don't personally pay for my kid to go to ECA, then he shouldn't be going there. I do, in fact, pay for him to be there. But let's just say I didn't. Why would it be okay for me to pay for it, but not my parents, or just some random somebody? What's the difference and why does it matter?
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Post by pinion on Jul 8, 2016 14:33:57 GMT -6
Raven, Only if you assume the the financial restraints are enforced. I don't know one way or another, but the perception is that scholarships and tuition adjustments are made, frequently or infrequently, for certain students. Without data, the perception will continue unabated. So private schools are taking kids and just eating the cost of it? Really? Sorry, it just doesn't work that way. It takes money to operate a school and having kids there that are not paying hurts. So, again, what difference does it make if a kid is there on his parents dime or someone else's dime?
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Post by kbanes on Jul 8, 2016 19:42:40 GMT -6
"I noticed KBanes mentioned private school scholarships."
Again, the perception is that kids with above average athletic ability can get into a private school that they couldn't normally afford, by getting a scholarship from the private school.
I applaud your ability and desire to have your kids in private school. I understand that you kind of get screwed having to support two school infrastructure. That can not be argued.
I also wish that more kids could get into private school. That is why I'm for vouchers.
I suspect that the ability of a private school to provide these types of scholarships vary greatly with the size of the school. I doubt that it would happen often at smaller privates. But I have no doubt that the the larger privates could afford a handful if these types of deals. Do I think that Catholic-BR could afford four scholaships for the football team? Yes, I do. U-High? Yes. Point-Coupee Catholic? I doubt it.
"What's the difference and why does it matter?"
If this isn't clear to you, then there is going to be nothing that I can say to clear it up. I will just leave the discussion.
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Post by indy on Jul 8, 2016 20:02:48 GMT -6
"I noticed KBanes mentioned private school scholarships." Again, the perception is that kids with above average athletic ability can get into a private school that they couldn't normally afford, by getting a scholarship from the private school. I applaud your ability and desire to have your kids in private school. I understand that you kind of get screwed having to support two school infrastructure. That can not be argued. I also wish that more kids could get into private school. That is why I'm for vouchers. I suspect that the ability of a private school to provide these types of scholarships vary greatly with the size of the school. I doubt that it would happen often at smaller privates. But I have no doubt that the the larger privates could afford a handful if these types of deals. Do I think that Catholic-BR could afford four scholaships for the football team? Yes, I do. U-High? Yes. Point-Coupee Catholic? I doubt it. "What's the difference and why does it matter?" If this isn't clear to you, then there is going to be nothing that I can say to clear it up. I will just leave the discussion. Giving a scholarship may sound great and simple but it's not. How do you think the parents who forked out huge huge bucks and the son who's hope and dream was to play on the team doesn't happen because another kid who's parents didn't pay a dime plays . Theory and reality!
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 11, 2016 8:35:16 GMT -6
"I noticed KBanes mentioned private school scholarships." Again, the perception is that kids with above average athletic ability can get into a private school that they couldn't normally afford, by getting a scholarship from the private school. I applaud your ability and desire to have your kids in private school. I understand that you kind of get screwed having to support two school infrastructure. That can not be argued. I also wish that more kids could get into private school. That is why I'm for vouchers. I suspect that the ability of a private school to provide these types of scholarships vary greatly with the size of the school. I doubt that it would happen often at smaller privates. But I have no doubt that the the larger privates could afford a handful if these types of deals. Do I think that Catholic-BR could afford four scholaships for the football team? Yes, I do. U-High? Yes. Point-Coupee Catholic? I doubt it. "What's the difference and why does it matter?" If this isn't clear to you, then there is going to be nothing that I can say to clear it up. I will just leave the discussion. Giving a scholarship may sound great and simple but it's not. How do you think the parents who forked out huge huge bucks and the son who's hope and dream was to play on the team doesn't happen because another kid who's parents didn't pay a dime plays . Theory and reality! Unless something has changed recently, and it has not, EVERY private school has to report if a student athlete is on financial assistance or not. The rules for FA are specific. 1st the assistance must come from the same assistance that the school offers to all students. There must be a qualifying criteria for that assistance, that is the same for every student. There must be a panel (non athletic) to review the applications for assistance. If granted, the assistance must be reported in the students records. (this is just good bookkeeping) and it must be reported to the LHSAA. One of the things they look at specifically when they do spot checks for eligibility is disparity in these records financially, birth date, transcripts and residence. This is school funded assistance. Non school funded assistance in the form of an individual such as a grandparent, aunt or uncle providing tuition is no ones business, it is a family matter. Not the LHSAA, DOE or BESE. Assistance from a NON related individual outside of the school program is rare. Does it happen, occasionally and usually it is reported in the school records as well. If my oil well comes in or if I win the Lottery tomorrow night, and I setup funds for 1,000 poor kids to go to private school, whose business is that but my own and the kids I am trying to help? I know STM has some really nice scholarships established through money grants from families like MG 20/20, The Wilkerson Foundation and others but those are for college education and are purely academic. There are some generous individuals that help pay for students that cannot meet the total cost due to unexpected hardships, but that is an after the fact gift usually not given towards the end of the year to finish out the year or to graduate. The idea that private schools have unlimited money to give away huge athletic scholarships is just unfounded and untrue. Quite frankly it is bad business. Funding for a single 4 year athletic scholarship in perpetuity would require $800 to $1MM in funds per scholarship depending on the interest rate earned on the funding investment. If not your scholarship fund will disappear and your program would be short lived. It is why TOPS cannot be maintained. There is no underlying investments to keep it going. Using income streams to fund the program that are not tied to a protected fixed amount of money is not sustainable.
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Post by indy on Jul 19, 2016 14:44:06 GMT -6
The executive committee called a special meeting tomorrow. The only item on the agenda is the Directors report to the NFHS. Anyone knows what that's about?
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Post by kbanes on Jul 19, 2016 17:24:03 GMT -6
I didn't see a media release on this. Was it in the paper?
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Post by indy on Jul 19, 2016 17:26:37 GMT -6
I didn't see a media release on this. Was it in the paper? I received a media release today.
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Post by btown on Jul 19, 2016 17:52:55 GMT -6
The executive committee called a special meeting tomorrow. The only item on the agenda is the Directors report to the NFHS. Anyone knows what that's about? I read the meeting is the 25th. Is it reprimand him or terminate?
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Post by indy on Jul 19, 2016 17:57:51 GMT -6
The executive committee called a special meeting tomorrow. The only item on the agenda is the Directors report to the NFHS. Anyone knows what that's about? I read the meeting is the 25th. Is it reprimand him or terminate? You right, it is the 25th. My bad
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Post by kbanes on Jul 19, 2016 19:22:30 GMT -6
Did it indicate that media would be allowed?
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Post by indy on Jul 19, 2016 19:26:39 GMT -6
Did it indicate that media would be allowed? Number 5 on the agenda said public comment. 6 was adjourn
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Post by kbanes on Jul 19, 2016 21:36:25 GMT -6
Yeah, I might show up for that.
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Post by indy on Jul 19, 2016 21:59:15 GMT -6
Yeah, I might show up for that. Send live updates
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 20, 2016 9:04:43 GMT -6
Did it indicate that media would be allowed? Number 5 on the agenda said public comment. 6 was adjourn I would not be surprised if he used this opportunity to resigned and leave the rudderless dumpster fire trash barge it has become.
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Post by indy on Jul 20, 2016 9:38:09 GMT -6
Number 5 on the agenda said public comment. 6 was adjourn I would not be surprised if he used this opportunity to resigned and leave the rudderless dumpster fire trash barge it has become. He Probably should, but my guess is that he needs the job. This meeting is probably the result of the principals wearing the ears off of the executive committee. I can hear the whine!
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 20, 2016 10:24:06 GMT -6
I would not be surprised if he used this opportunity to resigned and leave the rudderless dumpster fire trash barge it has become. He Probably should, but my guess is that he needs the job. This meeting is probably the result of the principals wearing the ears off of the executive committee. I can hear the whine! If he is intelligent and shewed, he would have already started the job search. My thinking is that he has been looking since January's fiasco of a meeting. If nothing else, the 1st week of June would have been the bellwether to get out of Dodge. Typical, those that set the dumpster on fire will castigate the one who identified and reported the fire. For his resume and who ever else might possibly be the next commissioner, having the LHSAA on it, is not a positive mark.
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Post by indy on Jul 20, 2016 11:08:48 GMT -6
He Probably should, but my guess is that he needs the job. This meeting is probably the result of the principals wearing the ears off of the executive committee. I can hear the whine! If he is intelligent and shewed, he would have already started the job search. My thinking is that he has been looking since January's fiasco of a meeting. If nothing else, the 1st week of June would have been the bellwether to get out of Dodge. Typical, those that set the dumpster on fire will castigate the one who identified and reported the fire. For his resume and who ever else might possibly be the next commissioner, having the LHSAA on it, is not a positive mark. At this point in the LHSAA, they don't need an executive director. The principals have control and will continue to self serve. They could save the money but will probably divey it up at the pat on the back convention! Geez
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 22, 2016 7:59:03 GMT -6
If he is intelligent and shewed, he would have already started the job search. My thinking is that he has been looking since January's fiasco of a meeting. If nothing else, the 1st week of June would have been the bellwether to get out of Dodge. Typical, those that set the dumpster on fire will castigate the one who identified and reported the fire. For his resume and who ever else might possibly be the next commissioner, having the LHSAA on it, is not a positive mark. At this point in the LHSAA, they don't need an executive director. The principals have control and will continue to self serve. They could save the money but will probably divey it up at the pat on the back convention! Geez They would have to change the constitution with a majority vote to eliminate the exec...... uh..... wha....... Let's get rid of the ED and maybe the EC too. After all, How can they possibly allow it to remain it is longer needed, just throw it all away. Let's take a vote.
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