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Post by piratefan on Jun 30, 2016 19:37:30 GMT -6
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Post by LivingstonNerd on Jun 30, 2016 20:06:36 GMT -6
Not our fault he failed to do his job. From what I remember he barely attempted to solve the issues that were presented to him upon his arrival here. Sounds to me like he misses his old job in Nevada where the only school he got complaints about was Bishop Gorman.
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Post by Rick James on Jun 30, 2016 20:29:49 GMT -6
My guess is we will get a resignation from Mr Bonine very soon. He has burned all bridges now.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 1, 2016 1:40:14 GMT -6
well he's not wrong... though he is part of the problem
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Post by xcat on Jul 1, 2016 7:56:33 GMT -6
My guess is we will get a resignation from Mr Bonine very soon. He has burned all bridges now. Yeah - what a bone-headed thing to say about the organization that you "lead".
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 1, 2016 8:10:09 GMT -6
Not our fault he failed to do his job. From what I remember he barely attempted to solve the issues that were presented to him upon his arrival here. Sounds to me like he misses his old job in Nevada where the only school he got complaints about was Bishop Gorman. This post is the epidemy of what is wrong with the LHSAA. Like spoiled children unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions. The cause of the DUMPSTER FIRE, is NOT Mr. Bonine. I an not his greatest fan, but we must put the blame for setting the LHSAA trash heap fire where it squarely belongs. There is NO human alive today who could have come in and corrected the issues. 1. He did not create the problem, it existed and the initial vote was taken long before he was even a candidate for the job. 2. EVERY attempt at reconciliation or options for any fix, has been shot down by the PUBLIC SCHOOL PRINCIPALS. EVERY single one offered by the private sector was DOA. And despite the lies and distortion on this board there were multiple offerings. 3. Not only did the public principals not want or try to reconcile, they voted to EXPAND the rift to more sports. 4. Mr. Bonine is required by moral and ethical standards to give an accurate representation to the NFHS board of directors. To LIE about the condition of the association could lead to a loss of accreditation from the NFHS. DUMPSTER FIRE is an accurate description of the attitudes, mentality and temperament of the public school principals. After all, they lit the fire, and then poured on gasoline. 5. The LHSAA is on the verge of losing up to 33% maybe more of its membership within the next two years along with up to 40% of its revenue, maybe more. It is not financial, administratively or ethically as an organization sound. They use the wording "Institutional Control", The LHSAA no longer long past the loss of 'Institutional Control" over its member schools which have moved to an era of lawlessness with no moral or ethical sense of FAIR PLAY. Will it survive, Yes. But it may very well have to seek protection from the courts in the form of bankruptcy in the near future. The question is now remaining whether it can keep it's non-profit status as it has wrongfully sought to punish a portion of its membership who by the bylaws established have done NO WRONG! The LHSAA is a DUMPSTER FIRE and it will consume the whole organization if not put out or moved away from the building shortly.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 1, 2016 9:13:17 GMT -6
The LHSAA has to be reported to the NFHS as violating its charter:
2.1 This Association is organized exclusively for charitable, religious, educational, and scientific purposes, including for such
purposes as the making of distributions to organizations that qualify as exempt organizations under section 501(c)(3) of
the Internal Revenue Code, or the corresponding section of any future federal tax code, and including the following:
1. To promote, regulate, and direct the interscholastic athletic activities of Louisiana high schools that are members of
the Association.
2. To assist, advise, and aid schools in organizing and conducting interscholastic sports.
3. To protect members of the Association by preparing and enforcing eligibility rules that will equalize and stimulate
wholesome competition.
4. To prevent the exploitation of member schools’ programs by special interest groups.
5. To preserve the game for the boys and girls and not sacrifice the boys and girls to the game.
6. To promote the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play in all athletic contests.
7. Any other activity, which is legal for a 501(c)(3) organization to do
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Post by indy on Jul 3, 2016 19:34:40 GMT -6
The LHSAA has to be reported to the NFHS as violating its charter: 2.1 This Association is organized exclusively for charitable, religious, educational, and scientific purposes, including for such
purposes as the making of distributions to organizations that qualify as exempt organizations under section 501(c)(3) of
the Internal Revenue Code, or the corresponding section of any future federal tax code, and including the following:
1. To promote, regulate, and direct the interscholastic athletic activities of Louisiana high schools that are members of
the Association.
2. To assist, advise, and aid schools in organizing and conducting interscholastic sports. 3. To protect members of the Association by preparing and enforcing eligibility rules that will equalize and stimulate
wholesome competition. 4. To prevent the exploitation of member schools’ programs by special interest groups. 5. To preserve the game for the boys and girls and not sacrifice the boys and girls to the game. 6. To promote the spirit of sportsmanship and fair play in all athletic contests.
7. Any other activity, which is legal for a 501(c)(3) organization to do A good article: www.theadvertiser.com/story/sports/high-school/2016/07/02/lhsaa-despite-unprofessionalism-bonine-had-some-good-points/86636280/
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Post by kbanes on Jul 3, 2016 19:53:32 GMT -6
Well, iknownuthing, I'm not sure what you are trying to say here.
You have text in different sizes and colors, and I don't know if you are trying to emphasize particular parts, or if it was inadvertent.
My guess is that you say that the LHSAA is violating its charter by failing to do the things in red.
So...
I can't see anything here in the charter that the LHSAA should worry about. The issue that we have is open enrollment vs. closed enrollment, and the (real or perceived) advantages to be gained with open enrollment.
The problem with accusing the LHSAA of resolving this issue in an unfair manner is that many other state associations have resolved it the very same way (Tennessee, for instance). Some states, have gone even further, and are living with two distinct state associations. (Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, that I know of.)
The question becomes, how can the LHSAA be in violation of its charter, when it has the same solution as other states? In fact, some other states are worse. (A case can be made that the split is EXACTLY what they should be allowed to do under Item 3 above.
Can anyone tel me which states allow select and non-selects to compete at all levels, including playoffs?
Maybe your intent to your post was different than I interpreted.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 19:01:13 GMT -6
Not our fault he failed to do his job. From what I remember he barely attempted to solve the issues that were presented to him upon his arrival here. Sounds to me like he misses his old job in Nevada where the only school he got complaints about was Bishop Gorman. This post is the epidemy of what is wrong with the LHSAA. Like spoiled children unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions. The cause of the DUMPSTER FIRE, is NOT Mr. Bonine. I an not his greatest fan, but we must put the blame for setting the LHSAA trash heap fire where it squarely belongs. There is NO human alive today who could have come in and corrected the issues. 1. He did not create the problem, it existed and the initial vote was taken long before he was even a candidate for the job. 2. EVERY attempt at reconciliation or options for any fix, has been shot down by the PUBLIC SCHOOL PRINCIPALS. EVERY single one offered by the private sector was DOA. And despite the lies and distortion on this board there were multiple offerings. 3. Not only did the public principals not want or try to reconcile, they voted to EXPAND the rift to more sports. 4. Mr. Bonine is required by moral and ethical standards to give an accurate representation to the NFHS board of directors. To LIE about the condition of the association could lead to a loss of accreditation from the NFHS. DUMPSTER FIRE is an accurate description of the attitudes, mentality and temperament of the public school principals. After all, they lit the fire, and then poured on gasoline. 5. The LHSAA is on the verge of losing up to 33% maybe more of its membership within the next two years along with up to 40% of its revenue, maybe more. It is not financial, administratively or ethically as an organization sound. They use the wording "Institutional Control", The LHSAA no longer long past the loss of 'Institutional Control" over its member schools which have moved to an era of lawlessness with no moral or ethical sense of FAIR PLAY. Will it survive, Yes. But it may very well have to seek protection from the courts in the form of bankruptcy in the near future. The question is now remaining whether it can keep it's non-profit status as it has wrongfully sought to punish a portion of its membership who by the bylaws established have done NO WRONG! The LHSAA is a DUMPSTER FIRE and it will consume the whole organization if not put out or moved away from the building shortly. 1) Your assertation is that there is a problem. MOST disagree with you. 2) There is nothing to "reconciliate" from. It is a natural progression that many states have already went towards, and many more soon will 3) Again, nothing to "reconcile" 4) If any CEO of any company (or head coach of any sports team) coined the organization they were in charge of as a "dumpster fire", they would be relieved of their job almost immediately if not sooner. He can thank the Public School Principals for not doing so......yet. 5) A r.eduction in schools also means a reduction is overall costs. Buh-Bye The bottom line is simply this, this ship has sailed, as it has in many more states. We will not move forward. Friday nights will soon be filled with football all across this great state. Rivalries still exist and will be played. NOTHING prevents ANYONE from playing each other during the regular season is both schools agree to do so, as has always been the case. The new playoff format is refreshing, in place, and will be improved upon, regardless of the wishes of the uninformed media, parents, and butthurt select school coaches who see this a problem in their attainment of previous student athletes.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 4, 2016 20:41:01 GMT -6
This post is the epidemy of what is wrong with the LHSAA. Like spoiled children unwilling to accept responsibility for their own actions. The cause of the DUMPSTER FIRE, is NOT Mr. Bonine. I an not his greatest fan, but we must put the blame for setting the LHSAA trash heap fire where it squarely belongs. There is NO human alive today who could have come in and corrected the issues. 1. He did not create the problem, it existed and the initial vote was taken long before he was even a candidate for the job. 2. EVERY attempt at reconciliation or options for any fix, has been shot down by the PUBLIC SCHOOL PRINCIPALS. EVERY single one offered by the private sector was DOA. And despite the lies and distortion on this board there were multiple offerings. 3. Not only did the public principals not want or try to reconcile, they voted to EXPAND the rift to more sports. 4. Mr. Bonine is required by moral and ethical standards to give an accurate representation to the NFHS board of directors. To LIE about the condition of the association could lead to a loss of accreditation from the NFHS. DUMPSTER FIRE is an accurate description of the attitudes, mentality and temperament of the public school principals. After all, they lit the fire, and then poured on gasoline. 5. The LHSAA is on the verge of losing up to 33% maybe more of its membership within the next two years along with up to 40% of its revenue, maybe more. It is not financial, administratively or ethically as an organization sound. They use the wording "Institutional Control", The LHSAA no longer long past the loss of 'Institutional Control" over its member schools which have moved to an era of lawlessness with no moral or ethical sense of FAIR PLAY. Will it survive, Yes. But it may very well have to seek protection from the courts in the form of bankruptcy in the near future. The question is now remaining whether it can keep it's non-profit status as it has wrongfully sought to punish a portion of its membership who by the bylaws established have done NO WRONG! The LHSAA is a DUMPSTER FIRE and it will consume the whole organization if not put out or moved away from the building shortly. 1) Your assertation is that there is a problem. MOST disagree with you. 2) There is nothing to "reconciliate" from. It is a natural progression that many states have already went towards, and many more soon will 3) Again, nothing to "reconcile" 4) If any CEO of any company (or head coach of any sports team) coined the organization they were in charge of as a "dumpster fire", they would be relieved of their job almost immediately if not sooner. He can thank the Public School Principals for not doing so......yet. 5) A r.eduction in schools also means a reduction is overall costs. Buh-Bye The bottom line is simply this, this ship has sailed, as it has in many more states. We will not move forward. Friday nights will soon be filled with football all across this great state. Rivalries still exist and will be played. NOTHING prevents ANYONE from playing each other during the regular season is both schools agree to do so, as has always been the case. The new playoff format is refreshing, in place, and will be improved upon, regardless of the wishes of the uninformed media, parents, and butthurt select school coaches who see this a problem in their attainment of previous student athletes. 1. See the emperor's new close, don't they look wonderful. 2. of course not, you cannot reconcile with those who refuse to compromise. The public school principals have dealt a major blow to the LHSAA. 3. More gasoline. 4. No, you obviously have no understanding of the responsibilities of a CEO. For a NEW CEO to come in and say 'everything's all right" is to lead that organization to irresponsibility and collapse. Many new CEO come in and take organizations to bankruptcy to try and save it. Whoever is Mr Bonine's replace will be will have to make that same decision. And of course they will try to blame Mr. B. But the real problem is the principals. 5. You seem to be thinking that the LHSAA's financials are a zero sum game. You must be watching too much CNN. Basic accounting and economics along with introductory business management at the high school level, should teach you that a drop and revenue will produce a drop in cost. The two are mutually exclusive. The rent will not change, the lease payments on the vehicles will not change. The cost to operate day to day will not change. The salaries will not change. (well not at first). You will still have to educate the coaches, audit forms and do the things that must be done daily to have viable organization. There is not a single company that can remain viable with a 40% reduction in revenue without major change. Heck the state of Louisiana cannot remain viable with 25% increase in tax revenue. They raised taxes $2.4BB and yet the budget is still $600MM short. Either member schools will have to cough up more money or the LHSAA will have to cease some operation and cut sports. Think, soccer, cross country winter track, wrestling, swimming and possibly volleyball all going away. Maybe even more. Yes the ship has sailed and it can point to people like you who are jumping up and down with glee at its destruction. The new playoff format is a disaster and the public school principals will only force additional changes on private schools. You think you have struck a death blow to private schools, but actually it will be their ultimate liberation from tyranny.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Jul 5, 2016 7:18:49 GMT -6
The bottom line is simply this, this ship has sailed, as it has in many more states. We will not move forward. Friday nights will soon be filled with football all across this great state. Rivalries still exist and will be played. NOTHING prevents ANYONE from playing each other during the regular season is both schools agree to do so, as has always been the case. The new playoff format is refreshing, in place, and will be improved upon, regardless of the wishes of the uninformed media, parents, and butthurt select school coaches who see this a problem in their attainment of previous student athletes. here's the problem... soon, teams are going to want to play (like they always have in some cases), and people like you are gonna say "NOPE!!!!!! Wrong League!!!!"
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Post by btown on Jul 5, 2016 9:36:09 GMT -6
The bottom line is simply this, this ship has sailed, as it has in many more states. We will not move forward. Friday nights will soon be filled with football all across this great state. Rivalries still exist and will be played. NOTHING prevents ANYONE from playing each other during the regular season is both schools agree to do so, as has always been the case. The new playoff format is refreshing, in place, and will be improved upon, regardless of the wishes of the uninformed media, parents, and butthurt select school coaches who see this a problem in their attainment of previous student athletes. here's the problem... soon, teams are going to want to play (like they always have in some cases), and people like you are gonna say "NOPE!!!!!! Wrong League!!!!" A lot of "what ifs" out there, nothing has happen. They keep talking about breaking away and about money. Someone tell me how many fans showed up from Calvary at the Notre Dame vs Calvary game this past year. I will get blasted for saying this but so what, public schools bring fans to games not private. Yes there are a few public schools that have a large fan base, Notre Dame being one. Privates need public schools just like public schools need privates. Privates can break away if they want, but LHSAA will not be the only ones feeling it in the pocket book. So blast away!!!
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Post by indy on Jul 5, 2016 10:34:07 GMT -6
here's the problem... soon, teams are going to want to play (like they always have in some cases), and people like you are gonna say "NOPE!!!!!! Wrong League!!!!" A lot of "what ifs" out there, nothing has happen. Â They keep talking about breaking away and about money. Â Someone tell me how many fans showed up from Calvary at the Notre Dame vs Calvary game this past year. Â I will get blasted for saying this but so what, public schools bring fans to games not private. Â Yes there are a few public schools that have a large fan base, Notre Dame being one. Â Privates need public schools just like public schools need privates. Privates can break away if they want, but LHSAA will not be the only ones feeling it in the pocket book. Â So blast away!!! It's ic to think that public schools bring the fans. Schedule west St Mary or Jenerette and tell me how that works out. Many Public and private schools have great fan support and many don't. A complete split will hurt everybody but the LHSAA will bear the biggest hit. No Buisness can withstand a 40-5o% drop in revenue without major ramifications. Privates will have a great start with heavy hitting benefactors but ultimately will have to cash flow. Time will tell.
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Post by pinion on Jul 5, 2016 11:14:55 GMT -6
Bottom line is that the pro split folks were NEVER going to work with Bonine to get things righted. Early on he was asked (I think before he even got here) about the split and such, his response was that he wanted to see if a resolution could be had where everybody was back together or to where everybody was happy. From that point to now, the pro split folks have been unwilling to work with him on anything. As well as being unwilling to compromise anything.
As for public schools bringing the fans. I don't know about all that. Last season, Byrd and Parkway brought the fans. Airline and Haughton was represented about as well as could be expected. Though, Airline didn't have nearly as many fans show up as I'd figured. Southwood and Capt.Shreve was pretty much pathetic. I think there were more folks at the JV game than the Varsity games (for both). Honestly, I don't think Southwood had more than about 15-20 people, at best, when we played them.
Teams that are good generally have pretty good fan support and will pack the house. If a public school isn't that great, they're not going to have many fans show up. It's been that way from 1A to 5A. Private schools are generally going to carry about the same amount of fans from year to year, based on the size of the school.
All of that being said, I hope the private schools can come together and get out of the LHSAA. The LHSAA has not, is not, and will not ever do anything for private schools that they can't do in another organization. Staying in does nothing but continue to support an organization that is working against them and does not want them there.
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Post by btown on Jul 5, 2016 11:41:13 GMT -6
A lot of "what ifs" out there, nothing has happen. They keep talking about breaking away and about money. Someone tell me how many fans showed up from Calvary at the Notre Dame vs Calvary game this past year. I will get blasted for saying this but so what, public schools bring fans to games not private. Yes there are a few public schools that have a large fan base, Notre Dame being one. Privates need public schools just like public schools need privates. Privates can break away if they want, but LHSAA will not be the only ones feeling it in the pocket book. So blast away!!! It's ic to think that public schools bring the fans. Schedule west St Mary or Jenerette and tell me how that works out. Many Public and private schools have great fan support and many don't. A complete split will hurt everybody but the LHSAA will bear the biggest hit. No Buisness can withstand a 40-5o% drop in revenue without major ramifications. Privates will have a great start with heavy hitting benefactors but ultimately will have to cash flow. Time will tell. I wish you would breakdown this 40%-50% revenue for me.
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Post by Raven on Jul 5, 2016 12:38:36 GMT -6
It's ic to think that public schools bring the fans. Schedule west St Mary or Jenerette and tell me how that works out. Many Public and private schools have great fan support and many don't. A complete split will hurt everybody but the LHSAA will bear the biggest hit. No Buisness can withstand a 40-5o% drop in revenue without major ramifications. Privates will have a great start with heavy hitting benefactors but ultimately will have to cash flow. Time will tell. I wish you would breakdown this 40%-50% revenue for me. if roughly 30% of your dues-paying members leave an organization, that is a big blow to your finances. Administrative costs however, will remain roughly the same, unless they plan to lay people off or take pay cuts. In addition, if members do leave it will be akin to a divorce. Any assets owned by the LHSAA will have to be divided proportionally with the schools that are leaving. But specifically regarding attendance at games... I do agree that winning public schools and winning private schools both bring strong crowds through the gates. But when you check out the average to below average teams, a non-winning private school more often than not, will bring in more fans than a non-winning public school. Even at away games. At least this is true for football at the 1A/2A level. There were games when we played 3A and 4A public schools who brought fewer fans than we had cheerleaders. These were mostly Baton Rouge teams like Belaire and Broadmoor. But it can happen at rural schools too. About 10 years ago, when Kentwood was struggling through a couple of mediocre seasons, we had a game there and I could have counted the number of fans on the home side without even taking off my shoes. Last time we were there (I think it was 2013) the stadium was packed because they were winning again. Now I realize that may not be the case everywhere, but I find it to be true more often than not.
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Post by btown on Jul 5, 2016 12:51:25 GMT -6
I wish you would breakdown this 40%-50% revenue for me. if roughly 30% of your dues-paying members leave an organization, that is a big blow to your finances. Administrative costs however, will remain roughly the same, unless they plan to lay people off or take pay cuts. In addition, if members do leave it will be akin to a divorce. Any assets owned by the LHSAA will have to be divided proportionally with the schools that are leaving. But specifically regarding attendance at games... I do agree that winning public schools and winning private schools both bring strong crowds through the gates. But when you check out the average to below average teams, a non-winning private school more often than not, will bring in more fans than a non-winning public school. Even at away games. At least this is true for football at the 1A/2A level. There were games when we played 3A and 4A public schools who brought fewer fans than we had cheerleaders. These were mostly Baton Rouge teams like Belaire and Broadmoor. But it can happen at rural schools too. About 10 years ago, when Kentwood was struggling through a couple of mediocre seasons, we had a game there and I could have counted the number of fans on the home side without even taking off my shoes. Last time we were there (I think it was 2013) the stadium was packed because they were winning again. Now I realize that may not be the case everywhere, but I find it to be true more often than not. The magic word in all of this is "IF". No one has a magic ball that is telling them what is going to happen. Again private schools breaking off sounds good, probably works good in New Orleans and Laf. area for all sports. But what happen to all the other private schools that may not have the numbers close to their school when it comes to scheduling basketball, softball and baseball. It will be hard traveling during the week, say for a school like St. Louis or a Menard.
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Post by Raven on Jul 5, 2016 14:01:10 GMT -6
if roughly 30% of your dues-paying members leave an organization, that is a big blow to your finances. Administrative costs however, will remain roughly the same, unless they plan to lay people off or take pay cuts. In addition, if members do leave it will be akin to a divorce. Any assets owned by the LHSAA will have to be divided proportionally with the schools that are leaving. But specifically regarding attendance at games... I do agree that winning public schools and winning private schools both bring strong crowds through the gates. But when you check out the average to below average teams, a non-winning private school more often than not, will bring in more fans than a non-winning public school. Even at away games. At least this is true for football at the 1A/2A level. There were games when we played 3A and 4A public schools who brought fewer fans than we had cheerleaders. These were mostly Baton Rouge teams like Belaire and Broadmoor. But it can happen at rural schools too. About 10 years ago, when Kentwood was struggling through a couple of mediocre seasons, we had a game there and I could have counted the number of fans on the home side without even taking off my shoes. Last time we were there (I think it was 2013) the stadium was packed because they were winning again. Now I realize that may not be the case everywhere, but I find it to be true more often than not. The magic word in all of this is "IF". No one has a magic ball that is telling them what is going to happen. Again private schools breaking off sounds good, probably works good in New Orleans and Laf. area for all sports. But what happen to all the other private schools that may not have the numbers close to their school when it comes to scheduling basketball, softball and baseball. It will be hard traveling during the week, say for a school like St. Louis or a Menard. For district games I can see that as a problem. But there are plenty of smaller private schools in the Lake Charles/Alexandria areas for those schools to fill out a schedule. Baseball wouldn't be too bad, as you could schedule a district tournament and play all your district games over a weekend and only have to travel once. Not sure what to do about basketball. Would be difficult to play that many games in one weekend. Maybe only schedule district games for the weekends when there is more time to travel. Or they could be revolutionary and just not have districts anymore. You just have to play a certain number of teams from within your classification each season to qualify for the playoffs, which would be determined by a power point system and not dependent at all on a district format. It would definitely be something to think about.
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Post by btown on Jul 5, 2016 14:26:28 GMT -6
The magic word in all of this is "IF". No one has a magic ball that is telling them what is going to happen. Again private schools breaking off sounds good, probably works good in New Orleans and Laf. area for all sports. But what happen to all the other private schools that may not have the numbers close to their school when it comes to scheduling basketball, softball and baseball. It will be hard traveling during the week, say for a school like St. Louis or a Menard. For district games I can see that as a problem. But there are plenty of smaller private schools in the Lake Charles/Alexandria areas for those schools to fill out a schedule. Baseball wouldn't be too bad, as you could schedule a district tournament and play all your district games over a weekend and only have to travel once. Not sure what to do about basketball. Would be difficult to play that many games in one weekend. Maybe only schedule district games for the weekends when there is more time to travel. Or they could be revolutionary and just not have districts anymore. You just have to play a certain number of teams from within your classification each season to qualify for the playoffs, which would be determined by a power point system and not dependent at all on a district format. It would definitely be something to think about. Name the smaller private schools in the Lake Charles/Alexandris area. Hamilton is the only one in Lake Charles, none in Alexandria. Not even talking about district, games in general.
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Post by Raven on Jul 5, 2016 15:30:42 GMT -6
For district games I can see that as a problem. But there are plenty of smaller private schools in the Lake Charles/Alexandria areas for those schools to fill out a schedule. Baseball wouldn't be too bad, as you could schedule a district tournament and play all your district games over a weekend and only have to travel once. Not sure what to do about basketball. Would be difficult to play that many games in one weekend. Maybe only schedule district games for the weekends when there is more time to travel. Or they could be revolutionary and just not have districts anymore. You just have to play a certain number of teams from within your classification each season to qualify for the playoffs, which would be determined by a power point system and not dependent at all on a district format. It would definitely be something to think about. Name the smaller private schools in the Lake Charles/Alexandris area. Hamilton is the only one in Lake Charles, none in Alexandria. Not even talking about district, games in general. Hamilton, St. Eds, Vermilion Catholic, any of the Lafayette schools... Lafayette and Lake Charles area schools are already combined for district games in 5A. It would work just as well for smaller schools. There are also a number of TAPPS schools just across the border. Holy Savior Menard is close enough to Opelousas (OCHS, Wesminster), Delta Charter, St. Mary's and Sacred Heart of Ville Platte to easily schedule those teams. Don't forget University Academy who is also located in Rapides Parish. Grace Christian is also in the Alexandria area. They have all sports except football. And there may still be some public schools who aren't afraid to play them in the regular season.
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Post by btown on Jul 5, 2016 18:22:33 GMT -6
Name the smaller private schools in the Lake Charles/Alexandris area. Hamilton is the only one in Lake Charles, none in Alexandria. Not even talking about district, games in general. Hamilton, St. Eds, Vermilion Catholic, any of the Lafayette schools... Lafayette and Lake Charles area schools are already combined for district games in 5A. It would work just as well for smaller schools. There are also a number of TAPPS schools just across the border. Holy Savior Menard is close enough to Opelousas (OCHS, Wesminster), Delta Charter, St. Mary's and Sacred Heart of Ville Platte to easily schedule those teams. Don't forget University Academy who is also located in Rapides Parish. Grace Christian is also in the Alexandria area. They have all sports except football. And there may still be some public schools who aren't afraid to play them in the regular season. Again ok for football, but other sports distance does not do good for kids during a school week. But you know what it does not matter "if" is still big word.
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Post by indy on Jul 5, 2016 19:01:05 GMT -6
It's ic to think that public schools bring the fans. Schedule west St Mary or Jenerette and tell me how that works out. Many Public and private schools have great fan support and many don't. A complete split will hurt everybody but the LHSAA will bear the biggest hit. No Buisness can withstand a 40-5o% drop in revenue without major ramifications. Privates will have a great start with heavy hitting benefactors but ultimately will have to cash flow. Time will tell. I wish you would breakdown this 40%-50% revenue for me. 30-33 % with dues from privates leaving. And even a retard will agree that 7-15% in loss of sponsors revenue will happen. Geez!
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Post by btown on Jul 5, 2016 19:27:38 GMT -6
I wish you would breakdown this 40%-50% revenue for me. 30-33 % with dues from privates leaving. And even a retard will agree that 7-15% in loss of sponsors revenue will happen. Geez! Even a retard can see that is only opinion and nothing to support the numbers. Geez!
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Post by indy on Jul 5, 2016 19:45:44 GMT -6
30-33 % with dues from privates leaving. And even a retard will agree that 7-15% in loss of sponsors revenue will happen. Geez! Even a retard can see that is only opinion and nothing to support the numbers. Geez! You asked, I answered. True, much of this is opinions, but dumbass questions is just dumbass questions. And many answers are simply put, ic. Geez
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 6, 2016 9:01:54 GMT -6
here's the problem... soon, teams are going to want to play (like they always have in some cases), and people like you are gonna say "NOPE!!!!!! Wrong League!!!!" A lot of "what ifs" out there, nothing has happen. They keep talking about breaking away and about money. Someone tell me how many fans showed up from Calvary at the Notre Dame vs Calvary game this past year. I will get blasted for saying this but so what, public schools bring fans to games not private. Yes there are a few public schools that have a large fan base, Notre Dame being one. Privates need public schools just like public schools need privates. Privates can break away if they want, but LHSAA will not be the only ones feeling it in the pocket book. So blast away!!! Be sensible about something for once. It really will take some time to get everything setup. I fully expect that this year, for most of the year, there will be no movement. But after football season you will see the movements begin. As of now, the willingness to wait and hope that people would be reasonable, which they were not, has delayed and made any movement for the coming year unattainable. But 2017-2018 will be a different story.
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Post by iknownuthing on Jul 6, 2016 9:17:48 GMT -6
Hamilton, St. Eds, Vermilion Catholic, any of the Lafayette schools... Lafayette and Lake Charles area schools are already combined for district games in 5A. It would work just as well for smaller schools. There are also a number of TAPPS schools just across the border. Holy Savior Menard is close enough to Opelousas (OCHS, Wesminster), Delta Charter, St. Mary's and Sacred Heart of Ville Platte to easily schedule those teams. Don't forget University Academy who is also located in Rapides Parish. Grace Christian is also in the Alexandria area. They have all sports except football. And there may still be some public schools who aren't afraid to play them in the regular season. Again ok for football, but other sports distance does not do good for kids during a school week. But you know what it does not matter "if" is still big word. You assume that non football will be retained with the same scheduling as the LHSAA. There are several models such as weekend tournaments for rural districts. For example in baseball, you could take the USSSA model and hold thursday thru saturday format. Local teams within acceptable driving distances play on Thursday night with out of town teams playing Friday night and a round robin on Saturday with seeding. Since I am an advocate of dissolution of the district format, it would require some organization to setup regional tournaments per class size that would be required. While public school people will look at this and scarf private school would realize as the opportunity to host as a fund raiser for each school in the region. Logistics would have to be worked out, but it could be done. Ultimately what will be done will be for the ACADEMIC betterment of the athletes so that people are not traveling to 3AM to get back home on a school night.
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Post by btown on Jul 6, 2016 10:12:52 GMT -6
Again ok for football, but other sports distance does not do good for kids during a school week. But you know what it does not matter "if" is still big word. You assume that non football will be retained with the same scheduling as the LHSAA. There are several models such as weekend tournaments for rural districts. For example in baseball, you could take the USSSA model and hold thursday thru saturday format. Local teams within acceptable driving distances play on Thursday night with out of town teams playing Friday night and a round robin on Saturday with seeding. Since I am an advocate of dissolution of the district format, it would require some organization to setup regional tournaments per class size that would be required. While public school people will look at this and scarf private school would realize as the opportunity to host as a fund raiser for each school in the region. Logistics would have to be worked out, but it could be done. Ultimately what will be done will be for the ACADEMIC betterment of the athletes so that people are not traveling to 3AM to get back home on a school night. Will not have a dog in the hunt so my opinion counts for "0". But with that being said, a school may get to host one tournament a season. Sounds good but what about the student body and fans attendance of home games. Seems like with this set up it will kill school spirit for athletics. In basketball, softball and baseball you have at least one home game per week, with the way you put it that is out the window for rural private schools.
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Post by pinion on Jul 6, 2016 11:06:31 GMT -6
You assume that non football will be retained with the same scheduling as the LHSAA. There are several models such as weekend tournaments for rural districts. For example in baseball, you could take the USSSA model and hold thursday thru saturday format. Local teams within acceptable driving distances play on Thursday night with out of town teams playing Friday night and a round robin on Saturday with seeding. Since I am an advocate of dissolution of the district format, it would require some organization to setup regional tournaments per class size that would be required. While public school people will look at this and scarf private school would realize as the opportunity to host as a fund raiser for each school in the region. Logistics would have to be worked out, but it could be done. Ultimately what will be done will be for the ACADEMIC betterment of the athletes so that people are not traveling to 3AM to get back home on a school night. Will not have a dog in the hunt so my opinion counts for "0". But with that being said, a school may get to host one tournament a season. Sounds good but what about the student body and fans attendance of home games. Seems like with this set up it will kill school spirit for athletics. In basketball, softball and baseball you have at least one home game per week, with the way you put it that is out the window for rural private schools. Well, killing off private schools is what you people want, so what's your complaint? If you're right, you get what you wanted all along. if all that is indeed what happens. I don't think it will. It seems to me that a lot of this doom and gloom may backfire and we may see numbers at private school grow. Given this split garbage (that normal thinking folk can see is just a stab at private schools) and the constant waste of tax dollars at public schools, and the sub-par education that goes with many public schools, I can certainly see an increase in numbers at private schools.
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Post by btown on Jul 6, 2016 11:49:51 GMT -6
Will not have a dog in the hunt so my opinion counts for "0". But with that being said, a school may get to host one tournament a season. Sounds good but what about the student body and fans attendance of home games. Seems like with this set up it will kill school spirit for athletics. In basketball, softball and baseball you have at least one home game per week, with the way you put it that is out the window for rural private schools. Well, killing off private schools is what you people want, so what's your complaint? If you're right, you get what you wanted all along. if all that is indeed what happens. I don't think it will. It seems to me that a lot of this doom and gloom may backfire and we may see numbers at private school grow. Given this split garbage (that normal thinking folk can see is just a stab at private schools) and the constant waste of tax dollars at public schools, and the sub-par education that goes with many public schools, I can certainly see an increase in numbers at private schools. So that means everyone’s pockets have feeled up with money to pay for private schools. Hate to break your heart but private school attendance numbers for the state have been going down each year. If someone can afford to send their kid to private school and want to they are already doing it. The split does not change that. 5% drop across the state and 17% drop in the New Orleans, Baton Rouge area. Article out of NOLA. Notre Dame has even showed a drop going from 3A to 2A, unless someone is controling enrollment.
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