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Post by randomdude on Dec 9, 2023 14:56:19 GMT -6
I respect the crap out of his game, but lost a lot of respect for him. To throw a pick 6 and not even try to give an effort to make a tackle right before half. Even worse yelling at coaches while doing so. Disappointing to see.
14-0 Productions tweet: “Ju'Juan Johnson throws a pick 6 with no time on the clock and makes no attempt to tackle the st Thomas more player. Just turns to his coaches and starts screaming and making hand motions like they did something wrong. Gets into verbal yelling match with a coach. With his athletic ability he could have easily stopped a touchdown from being scored! Most unbelievable thing I've ever seen down here.“
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Post by bullethole on Dec 9, 2023 15:13:36 GMT -6
Front runner mentality. It can’t be me!!
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Post by hvilletornado on Dec 9, 2023 16:47:31 GMT -6
Not going on the field for their final offensive play…🤯
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Post by Southplaq on Dec 9, 2023 16:50:23 GMT -6
He was definitely wrong for giving up on the play and started hollering at the sideline instead of trying to pursue the guy to maybe stop the touchdown. I’m not making any excuses for what he did, but I think the young man was simply frustrated. Receivers dropping passes, receivers dropping an easy TD pass. Etc. This is the biggest stage of your high school football career, so emotions are running extremely high. Look at the RB who threw the punch. In a regular season game, he would’t be at the level, emotionally, to do such a dumb thing. I’m not making excuses for J-Squared, but I just think he wanted this so badly and he was so frustrated in that moment, that it got the best of him.
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Post by swla65 on Dec 9, 2023 16:55:26 GMT -6
Not going on the field for their final offensive play…🤯 Not taking up for him I hated the way he acted on the field today it was totally uncalled for costed his team the game imo but he went to the medical tent right before the last play
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Post by hvilletornado on Dec 9, 2023 17:23:50 GMT -6
Not going on the field for their final offensive play…🤯 Not taking up for him I hated the way he acted on the field today it was totally uncalled for costed his team the game imo but he went to the medical tent right before the last play I get that. But, I believe we both know what really happened there.
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Post by bullethole on Dec 9, 2023 17:26:12 GMT -6
He made sure he wasn’t on the field on that 4th and 15 so that he didn’t have to take any responsibility for not getting the first down.
Pretended to be hurt but then came back out on that last short possession. His body language said I don’t care on that possession. Dude lost a lot of respect today.
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Post by ljswank on Dec 9, 2023 18:01:11 GMT -6
First time I've had the opportunity to see him play this year. Impressive as a runner, not so much as a passer today, and to not even give chase on the pick-6 says a great deal to me about his leadership. I know it's only a one-game sample, but he gave the impression today of being a prima-donna. Of course, this is just my opinion and anyone that doesn't agree with it is free to do so, but the eyes don't lie.
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Post by highschoolsportsfan on Dec 9, 2023 18:10:30 GMT -6
Not surprised. Really they have had zero discipline all season look at their penalties all season. They don’t know how to act when it direct go their way.
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Post by Sixpack on Dec 9, 2023 19:16:02 GMT -6
I didn't see the play but from the way it is described on this board there is something seriously wrong when a quarterback throws an interception in a state title game and makes no effort to stop a pick six.
He broke Brock's long standing record and he deserves all the accolades he got for accomplishing that.
But I watched Brock play at Evangel and I can promise you that in that same situation Brock would have given his all to prevent a pick six. Would he have been able to make the tackle? Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know, but I know this. If he didn't make the tackle it sure as hell wouldn't be because he didn't try.
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Post by fisherman1 on Dec 9, 2023 19:23:03 GMT -6
Talked to Asst. coach from Lafayette Christian from Baton Rouge area and he said the preacher who runs the school is downgrading the schedule and taking the 5a schools off schedule.
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Post by easyduzit on Dec 9, 2023 19:35:21 GMT -6
He won’t play a single down at LSU if that’s his attitude.
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Post by legionair on Dec 9, 2023 19:42:37 GMT -6
Talked to Asst. coach from Lafayette Christian from Baton Rouge area and he said the preacher who runs the school is downgrading the schedule and taking the 5a schools off schedule. Their preacher is all about winning . They won’t have the same talent next year which is why they are moving to 2A.
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 10:53:06 GMT -6
Idk how you watch that game and see anything other than this young man giving everything had this game and this season.
He wanted to kneel and go to half, coach called something else.
But to act like this play was indicative of his competitiveness is ridiculous.
And to act like he would or has ever deliberately sat out of plays because of the pressure or anything else is equally as dumb.
If you don't know the kid, don't start hating on him now.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 10, 2023 11:01:55 GMT -6
Talked to Asst. coach from Lafayette Christian from Baton Rouge area and he said the preacher who runs the school is downgrading the schedule and taking the 5a schools off schedule. Their preacher is all about winning . They won’t have the same talent next year which is why they are moving to 2A. This is an interesting comment after they just played up the last 2 seasons. They could have stayed in 2A and had a running clock nearly every week and the girls basketball team could have scored 100 points every game. They moved up when they had a couple of special classes, with arguably the best player in the state in multiple sports. And to the detriment of winning in some other sports.
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Post by bhossmac on Dec 10, 2023 11:17:55 GMT -6
The people who are saying JJ quit on his team and didn't want to be on the field for the final two offensive plays are absolutely nuts. I watched the play where he got hurt live from the sideline. It happened directly across from me. When he fumbled while he was going out of bounds, he stumbled along the sidelines and went down. He stayed down being attended to during the next play, which was third down, and during the entire timeout that LCA called before fourth down. He had to be helped to the medical tent. He returned to the game for the punt return after the defense got a stop, but was limping. He probably shouldn't have been out there for that play either, but I guarantee he thought he could make a play to help his team win.
I had the pleasure of watching Ju'Juan Johnson play live four times over the past two seasons. Unfortunately, he was 0-4 in those games. But he was electric to watch. He's not the most accurate passer, and he missed on some easy passes on Saturday. But he also had two dimes that should have been touchdowns and were straight dropped. His ability to extend plays and make plays with his feet was absolutely elite. Jim Hightower said after the game that Kevin Faulk was the best player he ever coached against, but Ju'Juan is certainly among the very small number of players who are among the best he's ever coached against.
Ju'Juan Johnson is the most productive quarterback to ever play in Louisiana. He's going to be a very successful defensive back in college, and with the right work ethic and determination has a chance to make a lot of money playing football for a living on Sundays. He's certainly among the handful of greatest players I've ever had the chance to see play.
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Post by randomdude on Dec 10, 2023 13:13:34 GMT -6
Ju'Juan Johnson is the most productive quarterback to ever play in Louisiana. I loved watching him play as well and respect him in any argument. I personally don’t agree with that statement. Yardage…sure. Brock Berlin went 60-0, 4 championships, and a Natty.
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Post by legionair on Dec 10, 2023 13:27:31 GMT -6
Their preacher is all about winning . They won’t have the same talent next year which is why they are moving to 2A. This is an interesting comment after they just played up the last 2 seasons. They could have stayed in 2A and had a running clock nearly every week and the girls basketball team could have scored 100 points every game. They moved up when they had a couple of special classes, with arguably the best player in the state in multiple sports. And to the detriment of winning in some other sports. Then why leave and go back to 2A?
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 13:30:37 GMT -6
This is an interesting comment after they just played up the last 2 seasons. They could have stayed in 2A and had a running clock nearly every week and the girls basketball team could have scored 100 points every game. They moved up when they had a couple of special classes, with arguably the best player in the state in multiple sports. And to the detriment of winning in some other sports. Then why leave and go back to 2A? You don't read do you? We said it about 4 times in this thread alone.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 10, 2023 13:33:14 GMT -6
Ju'Juan Johnson is the most productive quarterback to ever play in Louisiana. I loved watching him play as well and respect him in any argument. I personally don’t agree with that statement. Yardage…sure. Brock Berlin went 60-0, 4 championships, and a Natty. Those are team accomplishments. Ju’Juan gained more yards and accounted for more TDs than any player in the 100+ years of high school football in Louisiana. Being “the most productive” is not debatable.
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Post by randomdude on Dec 10, 2023 17:10:51 GMT -6
I loved watching him play as well and respect him in any argument. I personally don’t agree with that statement. Yardage…sure. Brock Berlin went 60-0, 4 championships, and a Natty. Those are team accomplishments. Ju’Juan gained more yards and accounted for more TDs than any player in the 100+ years of high school football in Louisiana. Being “the most productive” is not debatable. Here we go. Let’s get all technical. Producing a win is the most important stat in football. Evangel doesn’t go 60-0 without Brock Berlin. How do we digress? The issue isn’t his production. Isn’t his talent. The issue at hand is that Ju’Juan shocked us all when he quit on that pick 6. You can’t argue with that. His coaches were visibly infuriated with him. That’s what not debatable. Then to go off on his coaches? It’s makes people question his selflessness and character.
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Post by bhossmac on Dec 10, 2023 18:26:30 GMT -6
Ju'Juan Johnson is the most productive quarterback to ever play in Louisiana. I loved watching him play as well and respect him in any argument. I personally don’t agree with that statement. Yardage…sure. Brock Berlin went 60-0, 4 championships, and a Natty. Brock Berlin is the most decorated QB in Louisiana high school history. Ju'Juan Johnson is the most productive.
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Post by bhossmac on Dec 10, 2023 18:30:17 GMT -6
Ju'Juan Johnson is the most productive quarterback to ever play in Louisiana. I loved watching him play as well and respect him in any argument. I personally don’t agree with that statement. Yardage…sure. Brock Berlin went 60-0, 4 championships, and a Natty. Also, if we're being technical here, Brock went 45-0 and won three championships. He watched as the team went 15-0 and won a title his freshman year. As another poster said, the wins are team accomplishments, especially when you're not the starting quarterback.
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Post by daman on Dec 10, 2023 18:37:46 GMT -6
I heard he threw his MVP trophy down on the Superdome floor.
I also seen in a quite a few of his game have a poor attitude towards officials and opposing players and not listen to officials.
Good riddance young man, but if you stay with that same attitude, the SEC will eat you up.
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 18:42:45 GMT -6
You don't know the kid, hop off of him. You clearly have something holding you back from seeing what everyone else is seeing.
Don't speak on things you don't know.
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Post by viking27 on Dec 10, 2023 22:53:28 GMT -6
You don't know the kid, hop off of him. You clearly have something holding you back from seeing what everyone else is seeing. Don't speak on things you don't know. I understand you want to defend him. And no one can argue his talent level or production. But a lot of people, myself included, only got to watch him once or twice. And what I saw in that game, when he didn’t attempt to run down the guy who picked him off, says everything. His teammates who also worked all year to get to that point, look up to him as their leader. And for him to be selfish enough to watch them run it back for a touchdown and choose to scream at his receivers and then argue with his coaches afterwards speaks volume of his character. You can’t defend that. Everyone saw it. Everyone saw the coach force him into the field to accept his trophy because he clearly is not mature enough to do it on his own. Then to throw the trophy on the ground… it’s classless, immature, and embarrassing. I honestly could not believe it because I was so excited about getting to watch the kid. I know one moment of weakness does not define a kid, but on the biggest stage he let his teammates and coaches down. They never recovered from that play. And spare me the “he wanted to kneel” bs. Get over it. The coaches call the play and you do it to the best of your ability. You don’t get mad and pout and cost your team 7 points and all the momentum. I’ll forever remember that play when I hear his name. But yea his stats and records are great.
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 23:03:05 GMT -6
You don't know the kid, hop off of him. You clearly have something holding you back from seeing what everyone else is seeing. Don't speak on things you don't know. I understand you want to defend him. And no one can argue his talent level or production. But a lot of people, myself included, only got to watch him once or twice. And what I saw in that game, when he didn’t attempt to run down the guy who picked him off, says everything. His teammates who also worked all year to get to that point, look up to him as their leader. And for him to be selfish enough to watch them run it back for a touchdown and choose to scream at his receivers and then argue with his coaches afterwards speaks volume of his character. You can’t defend that. Everyone saw it. Everyone saw the coach force him into the field to accept his trophy because he clearly is not mature enough to do it on his own. Then to throw the trophy on the ground… it’s classless, immature, and embarrassing. I honestly could not believe it because I was so excited about getting to watch the kid. I know one moment of weakness does not define a kid, but on the biggest stage he let his teammates and coaches down. They never recovered from that play. And spare me the “he wanted to kneel” bs. Get over it. The coaches call the play and you do it to the best of your ability. You don’t get mad and pout and cost your team 7 points and all the momentum. I’ll forever remember that play when I hear his name. But yea his stats and records are great. That's cool, you weren't 2 Yards away from him when he came off the field to hear what was said so you can have your opinion. But I was and will stand on my comments.
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Post by cheezs on Dec 10, 2023 23:23:51 GMT -6
And I'm not defending him not trying to stop the Int return or anything, that's wrong and he knew it afterwards.
But people on here with 0 knowledge of him and his character and leadership talking about him being "classless" are absolutely talking crazy.
And also, no that wasn't even the catalyst of this game. We came out of half and scored our first possession and then dropped a sure TD the next.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Dec 10, 2023 23:26:35 GMT -6
You don't know the kid, hop off of him. You clearly have something holding you back from seeing what everyone else is seeing. Don't speak on things you don't know. I understand you want to defend him. And no one can argue his talent level or production. But a lot of people, myself included, only got to watch him once or twice. And what I saw in that game, when he didn’t attempt to run down the guy who picked him off, says everything. His teammates who also worked all year to get to that point, look up to him as their leader. And for him to be selfish enough to watch them run it back for a touchdown and choose to scream at his receivers and then argue with his coaches afterwards speaks volume of his character. You can’t defend that. Everyone saw it. Everyone saw the coach force him into the field to accept his trophy because he clearly is not mature enough to do it on his own. Then to throw the trophy on the ground… it’s classless, immature, and embarrassing. I honestly could not believe it because I was so excited about getting to watch the kid. I know one moment of weakness does not define a kid, but on the biggest stage he let his teammates and coaches down. They never recovered from that play. And spare me the “he wanted to kneel” bs. Get over it. The coaches call the play and you do it to the best of your ability. You don’t get mad and pout and cost your team 7 points and all the momentum. I’ll forever remember that play when I hear his name. But yea his stats and records are great. I’m an LCA fan and I have to say that I can’t really disagree with anything you said here. And like you said, a lot of people have only gotten to see him a couple of times, with this game being one of them. It’s a shame that that play will be etched in many people’s memories. I would guess that nobody reading this would want our lowest moment to be what defines us, as you mentioned. And to his credit, he tweeted tonight taking ownership of it and saying he will be better and learn from it. But while it was certainly egregious, I hope that most people can remember that we are talking about a teenage kid here, full of emotions and frustration in one of the biggest moments of his life to this point. We all have moments in time that are huge learning experiences for us moving forward. I hope that this one will be something that can propel him to much better things. Finally, again, we are discussing the actions of a kid in a bad moment in his sports life. In the grand scheme of things, taking into account some of the stories that come out about things teenage kids do (in and out of sports), I think if this is the worst thing this young man does, he’s gonna be ok, and that it doesn’t completely discount all that he has accomplished.
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Post by daman on Dec 11, 2023 10:31:51 GMT -6
You don't know the kid, hop off of him. You clearly have something holding you back from seeing what everyone else is seeing. Don't speak on things you don't know. I do know the “kid”. I have tried talking to him. He doesn’t take it well.
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