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Post by chalmetteowl on Mar 19, 2024 22:00:22 GMT -6
“ I personally saw Southside's basketball team this year and there are athletes there. “ That don’t play football. Under the previous regime
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Post by tubbyraymondsghost on Mar 20, 2024 5:53:31 GMT -6
That begs the question of did any basketball kids at Natchitoches Central come out for football last year? Not kids who already played both sports. New kids who came out for football for the first time.
Anyone know the answer to that?
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 20, 2024 7:44:13 GMT -6
That begs the question of did any basketball kids at Natchitoches Central come out for football last year? Not kids who already played both sports. New kids who came out for football for the first time. Anyone know the answer to that? I don't know his football history, but Camryn Davis was one of the leading receivers in the state and one of the stars on the basketball team at NCHS. Not sure who else played both sports, but I'm not intimately familiar with either roster. Let me be clear, I'm not expecting every good athlete in every other sport to automatically start to play football just because Jess Curtis was hired as the football coach. But kids want to be a part of a winning program. It may take a couple of years, but if Jess creates a winning environment, more kids will come out to play. Take a look at what has happened at Ruston. Most of the basketball team decided to play football this year. Aidan Anding went from star guard to starting cornerback with multiple Division I football offers. Joran Parker started at wide receiver. Both of those guys were major contributors to the football state championship team. Five or six football players played on Ruston's semifinal basketball team. If you can get the best athletes at your school contributing in multiple sports, you have a better likelihood of creating a well-rounded, winning sports department.
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Post by lhsaamemes on Mar 20, 2024 7:56:15 GMT -6
That begs the question of did any basketball kids at Natchitoches Central come out for football last year? Not kids who already played both sports. New kids who came out for football for the first time. Anyone know the answer to that? I don't know his football history, but Camryn Davis was one of the leading receivers in the state and one of the stars on the basketball team at NCHS. Not sure who else played both sports, but I'm not intimately familiar with either roster. Let me be clear, I'm not expecting every good athlete in every other sport to automatically start to play football just because Jess Curtis was hired as the football coach. But kids want to be a part of a winning program. It may take a couple of years, but if Jess creates a winning environment, more kids will come out to play. Take a look at what has happened at Ruston. Most of the basketball team decided to play football this year. Aidan Anding went from star guard to starting cornerback with multiple Division I football offers. Joran Parker started at wide receiver. Both of those guys were major contributors to the football state championship team. Five or six football players played on Ruston's semifinal basketball team. If you can get the best athletes at your school contributing in multiple sports, you have a better likelihood of creating a well-rounded, winning sports department. Attachments:
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Post by bullethole on Mar 20, 2024 8:37:24 GMT -6
"But kids want to be a part of a winning program. It may take a couple of years, but if Jess creates a winning environment, more kids will come out to play."
Southside is 26-10 with a quarterfinal appearance and a district championship in the last 3 years playing in a district with Acadiana and Carencro and an occasionally tough Sam Houston, as well as playing always good Notre Dame in non-district and they have beaten them the last two years. That's basically three straight years of 9-3. In their 5 years of varsity competition, Southside is a healthy 35-20.
What exactly do you mean by "if Jess creates a winning environment"?
I'd say that environment already exists. Let's don't create a false illusion that if Southside goes 7-3 this year that it was somehow the magic of Jess Curtis. That would be completely demeaning to the previous staff that has apparently worked very hard and done an outstanding job of getting that program off the ground and running.
EDIT: I agree with the other post about Southside's schedule this year. I think Neville, Madison Prep, Acadiana and Carencro are losses before the season starts. Notre Dame is a 50/50 game. From what knowledge I have of Southside (which isn't much beyond what I can get off of the internet) I'd say 6-4 is their absolute ceiling in regular season. 5-5 is the most likely outcome. Anything below that and you have to start asking questions.
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Post by JustAFootballDude on Mar 20, 2024 10:45:32 GMT -6
Basketball players don't typically flock to smash mouth, run heavy offenses.
I think that is evident in the last regime being pretty successful, but still not getting basketball players out for football.
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Post by CLEAN on Mar 20, 2024 10:46:53 GMT -6
Basketball players don't typically flock to smash mouth, run heavy offenses. I think that is evident in the last regime being pretty successful, but still not getting basketball players out for football. Landon Baptiste and Bryson Williams were on the quarterfinal teams. Both around 6-4, outstanding athletes.
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Post by JustAFootballDude on Mar 20, 2024 11:46:49 GMT -6
Basketball players don't typically flock to smash mouth, run heavy offenses. I think that is evident in the last regime being pretty successful, but still not getting basketball players out for football. Landon Baptiste and Bryson Williams were on the quarterfinal teams. Both around 6-4, outstanding athletes. Key word was typically. There are always going to be exceptions.
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 20, 2024 12:57:00 GMT -6
Basketball players don't typically flock to smash mouth, run heavy offenses. I think that is evident in the last regime being pretty successful, but still not getting basketball players out for football. This is more of where I was going. I shouldn't have used the phrase "winning environment" because that already exists at Southside. What I meant was if Jess Curtis brings the style of football to Southside that he brought to Natchitoches Central, it should be easier to get some of those athletes that didn't want to play in the veer. Jess didn't try to play smashmouth football at NCHS, and I'm pretty sure he won't at Southside. I know Jess is a polarizing figure, but it is weird to me that Southside has been a quality program, goes out and hires a championship coach, and posters are saying the ceiling of the team is 6-4 with four straight automatic losses to start the season.
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Post by bullethole on Mar 20, 2024 13:58:19 GMT -6
I didn't see anyone saying they would lose 4 straight to start the season. I personally said they would lose to Neville Week 2 and Madison Prep Week 3 and then lose to Acadiana and Carencro in District. I also said that I'd give them a 50/50 chance against Notre Dame in Week 1. I think they win the other 5. I also said if they finish below .500 then they may need to take a look at the direction they are headed.
Again just going by what little I know about Southside, they have BEEN a smashmouth team from Day 1. There is nothing gentle or subtle about the veer if you are good at it. It's right down your throat 40-50 plays a game. I would also think it takes a ton of daily and weekly reps over and over and over to be good at it. It's what their talent dictates. They don't have the kids to spread it out, throw it around, beat you in space, etc. Offensively I think that Southside's style in past seasons is what Curtis likes and wants. Maybe not the veer but more like what they did at Many just pulverizing people on offense.
I think what Curtis did at Natchitoches Central was dictated by having a lot of athletes, getting a last minute move-in at quarterback and being in a "point a minute" district that he knew he had to score a lot of points to have a chance. Also, the Harper guy was available as an OC and that's what he knows. I don't think it's something Curtis will do again. Offensively, I think Southside's kids and Curtis are a good pairing.
The big question mark in my opinion is what is he going to do on defense. If you have ever watched Many (I've seen them 4 or 5 times over the years) they lock up man to man everywhere and bring the house on every play. All game long. Every play. I assume that's what he did at Natchitoches Central as well. I can't see that working at Southside with the kids he will have. Not enough speed or athleticism. A passing team like a Sam Houston would have a field day. Veer teams like Carencro and Acadiana would find a weakness and wear it out.
I see them going 5-5. Possibly a low playoff seed.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Mar 20, 2024 15:26:05 GMT -6
I didn't see anyone saying they would lose 4 straight to start the season. I personally said they would lose to Neville Week 2 and Madison Prep Week 3 and then lose to Acadiana and Carencro in District. I also said that I'd give them a 50/50 chance against Notre Dame in Week 1. I think they win the other 5. I also said if they finish below .500 then they may need to take a look at the direction they are headed. Again just going by what little I know about Southside, they have BEEN a smashmouth team from Day 1. There is nothing gentle or subtle about the veer if you are good at it. It's right down your throat 40-50 plays a game. I would also think it takes a ton of daily and weekly reps over and over and over to be good at it. It's what their talent dictates. They don't have the kids to spread it out, throw it around, beat you in space, etc. Offensively I think that Southside's style in past seasons is what Curtis likes and wants. Maybe not the veer but more like what they did at Many just pulverizing people on offense. I think what Curtis did at Natchitoches Central was dictated by having a lot of athletes, getting a last minute move-in at quarterback and being in a "point a minute" district that he knew he had to score a lot of points to have a chance. Also, the Harper guy was available as an OC and that's what he knows. I don't think it's something Curtis will do again. Offensively, I think Southside's kids and Curtis are a good pairing. The big question mark in my opinion is what is he going to do on defense. If you have ever watched Many (I've seen them 4 or 5 times over the years) they lock up man to man everywhere and bring the house on every play. All game long. Every play. I assume that's what he did at Natchitoches Central as well. I can't see that working at Southside with the kids he will have. Not enough speed or athleticism. A passing team like a Sam Houston would have a field day. Veer teams like Carencro and Acadiana would find a weakness and wear it out. I see them going 5-5. Possibly a low playoff seed. Here’s the deal. He’s brought in to beat Acadiana and Carencro. Do you ever see the school having enough athletes to do so with Curtis in charge?
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Post by JustAFootballDude on Mar 20, 2024 15:50:39 GMT -6
I didn't see anyone saying they would lose 4 straight to start the season. I personally said they would lose to Neville Week 2 and Madison Prep Week 3 and then lose to Acadiana and Carencro in District. I also said that I'd give them a 50/50 chance against Notre Dame in Week 1. I think they win the other 5. I also said if they finish below .500 then they may need to take a look at the direction they are headed. Again just going by what little I know about Southside, they have BEEN a smashmouth team from Day 1. There is nothing gentle or subtle about the veer if you are good at it. It's right down your throat 40-50 plays a game. I would also think it takes a ton of daily and weekly reps over and over and over to be good at it. It's what their talent dictates. They don't have the kids to spread it out, throw it around, beat you in space, etc. Offensively I think that Southside's style in past seasons is what Curtis likes and wants. Maybe not the veer but more like what they did at Many just pulverizing people on offense. I think what Curtis did at Natchitoches Central was dictated by having a lot of athletes, getting a last minute move-in at quarterback and being in a "point a minute" district that he knew he had to score a lot of points to have a chance. Also, the Harper guy was available as an OC and that's what he knows. I don't think it's something Curtis will do again. Offensively, I think Southside's kids and Curtis are a good pairing. The big question mark in my opinion is what is he going to do on defense. If you have ever watched Many (I've seen them 4 or 5 times over the years) they lock up man to man everywhere and bring the house on every play. All game long. Every play. I assume that's what he did at Natchitoches Central as well. I can't see that working at Southside with the kids he will have. Not enough speed or athleticism. A passing team like a Sam Houston would have a field day. Veer teams like Carencro and Acadiana would find a weakness and wear it out. I see them going 5-5. Possibly a low playoff seed. Here’s the deal. He’s brought in to beat Acadiana and Carencro. Do you ever see the school having enough athletes to do so with Curtis in charge? If the thought is that athletes will flock to Southside because of Jess Curtis’ name, the answer is no. Kids down here don’t know who Jess Curtis is. Competition for kids is also a lot stiffer here than it was at Many (non-existent). He’s gonna have to fight STM, LCA, ARCA, LARCA, Tuerlings, Catholic NI, AES, etc etc etc for those athletes. I think it’ll be an interesting experiment for sure and we get to see how good Jess Curtis really is.
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Post by indy on Mar 20, 2024 15:56:24 GMT -6
I didn't see anyone saying they would lose 4 straight to start the season. I personally said they would lose to Neville Week 2 and Madison Prep Week 3 and then lose to Acadiana and Carencro in District. I also said that I'd give them a 50/50 chance against Notre Dame in Week 1. I think they win the other 5. I also said if they finish below .500 then they may need to take a look at the direction they are headed. Again just going by what little I know about Southside, they have BEEN a smashmouth team from Day 1. There is nothing gentle or subtle about the veer if you are good at it. It's right down your throat 40-50 plays a game. I would also think it takes a ton of daily and weekly reps over and over and over to be good at it. It's what their talent dictates. They don't have the kids to spread it out, throw it around, beat you in space, etc. Offensively I think that Southside's style in past seasons is what Curtis likes and wants. Maybe not the veer but more like what they did at Many just pulverizing people on offense. I think what Curtis did at Natchitoches Central was dictated by having a lot of athletes, getting a last minute move-in at quarterback and being in a "point a minute" district that he knew he had to score a lot of points to have a chance. Also, the Harper guy was available as an OC and that's what he knows. I don't think it's something Curtis will do again. Offensively, I think Southside's kids and Curtis are a good pairing. The big question mark in my opinion is what is he going to do on defense. If you have ever watched Many (I've seen them 4 or 5 times over the years) they lock up man to man everywhere and bring the house on every play. All game long. Every play. I assume that's what he did at Natchitoches Central as well. I can't see that working at Southside with the kids he will have. Not enough speed or athleticism. A passing team like a Sam Houston would have a field day. Veer teams like Carencro and Acadiana would find a weakness and wear it out. I see them going 5-5. Possibly a low playoff seed. Here’s the deal. He’s brought in to beat Acadiana and Carencro. Do you ever see the school having enough athletes to do so with Curtis in charge? No with or without athletes. Southside is not Sabine Parish. If anyone truly believes Jess will compete for a state title there is nuts. I believe he can have winning seasons but even a shot at a district title is far fetched.
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Post by faraway on Mar 20, 2024 17:27:16 GMT -6
People in this thread are either pretending he’s not or ignoring the fact that Josh Fontenot is a damn good coach. Look at his last few years in Crowley vs what Crowley has been since he’s left. Night and day
Edit to add: I don’t think Southside is some sleeping giant and that Jess just walked into some untapped goldmine
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Post by JustAFootballDude on Mar 20, 2024 18:36:06 GMT -6
People in this thread are either pretending he’s not or ignoring the fact that Josh Fontenot is a damn good coach. Look at his last few years in Crowley vs what Crowley has been since he’s left. Night and day Edit to add: I don’t think Southside is some sleeping giant and that Jess just walked into some untapped goldmine This right here. Fontenot definitely got a lot, if not all, out of those kids at Southside. There’s no “untapped potential” or some “hidden goldmine” there.
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Post by tigerfan7997 on Mar 21, 2024 8:00:43 GMT -6
People in this thread are either pretending he’s not or ignoring the fact that Josh Fontenot is a damn good coach. Look at his last few years in Crowley vs what Crowley has been since he’s left. Night and day Edit to add: I don’t think Southside is some sleeping giant and that Jess just walked into some untapped goldmine This right here. Fontenot definitely got a lot, if not all, out of those kids at Southside. There’s no “untapped potential” or some “hidden goldmine” there. Let's not turn him inti Lombardi, he was a good coach, at a good school, who did a professional job, and did what he was supposed to. He did not underachieve, but he really did not overachieve either. Southside is the premiere public school in Lafayette, in a REALLY good area; The ONLY thing they lacked was a Home Football Stadium; EVERYTHING else was top notch. Curtis will bring a different mentality to the Defense, but who knows if that leads to success. I would figure Curtis is an upgrade, but time will tell. As far as a Hidden gold mine; NOT really... This will be the West Monroe of the South; Big, Strong, kinda slow, and a 2nd round exit...
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Post by bluebonnetspearman on Mar 21, 2024 8:41:28 GMT -6
Many's trademark all during the Curtis years was defense but that was at the 2A level and in a very weak district and not having to play, much less beat, any private schools to win in the playoffs. Before the split and before Sabine's open enrollment started Many wasn't exactly a threat or a state power.
Whether people in Many want to admit it or not they WERE and ARE drawing from the entire parish and there are a ton of athletes in Zwolle, Florien, Negreet and Pleasant Hill,judging by their basketball accomplishments, and a lot of them ended up at Many playing football.
Whether people in Many want to admit it or not, Many couldn't get past the quarterfinals before the split. One trip to the Dome in the late 80's and a semi final game somewhere along the way when Feaster was there in the late 90's I think. I think there was a quarterfinal game under Keith Menard but they lost to Evangel in the 2000's sometime. Other than that, not much. Then the split happens and Sabine goes to open enrollment and VOILA!!! Many is suddenly a state power. That's not a coincidence.
Whether people in Many want to admit it or not the split and open enrollment made you a state power. Before that you were slightly above average. I have seen Many play over the last several years. I am a fan of their style on both sides of the ball and the aggressiveness of their kids. But let's be honest. They are no different than say a Union or an Oak Grove. They are a team playing lower division ball while getting kids from their entire parish and getting good coaching and not having to play private schools to get to the Dome.
I think Curtis and his coaches were entirely out of their depth at Natchitoches Central and he will be out of his depth at Southside unless he finds some good help. 5A is a whole other animal from 2A in talent, depth, public relations and coaching. Some guys are just good small ball, small town coaches and should stay there.
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 21, 2024 9:22:41 GMT -6
Many's trademark all during the Curtis years was defense but that was at the 2A level and in a very weak district and not having to play, much less beat, any private schools to win in the playoffs. Before the split and before Sabine's open enrollment started Many wasn't exactly a threat or a state power. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not they WERE and ARE drawing from the entire parish and there are a ton of athletes in Zwolle, Florien, Negreet and Pleasant Hill,judging by their basketball accomplishments, and a lot of them ended up at Many playing football. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not, Many couldn't get past the quarterfinals before the split. One trip to the Dome in the late 80's and a semi final game somewhere along the way when Feaster was there in the late 90's I think. I think there was a quarterfinal game under Keith Menard but they lost to Evangel in the 2000's sometime. Other than that, not much. Then the split happens and Sabine goes to open enrollment and VOILA!!! Many is suddenly a state power. That's not a coincidence. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not the split and open enrollment made you a state power. Before that you were slightly above average. I have seen Many play over the last several years. I am a fan of their style on both sides of the ball and the aggressiveness of their kids. But let's be honest. They are no different than say a Union or an Oak Grove. They are a team playing lower division ball while getting kids from their entire parish and getting good coaching and not having to play private schools to get to the Dome. I think Curtis and his coaches were entirely out of their depth at Natchitoches Central and he will be out of his depth at Southside unless he finds some good help. 5A is a whole other animal from 2A in talent, depth, public relations and coaching. Some guys are just good small ball, small town coaches and should stay there. This is just complete and total fabrication. Full stop: Lies. Sabine Parish does not have open enrollment. If Sabine Parish had open enrollment, Many would have been classified as a select school the past two years. It doesn't. Many, like several other schools, including D-1 Non-Select champion Ruston, is the only football school in the parish, so students who want to play that sport are allowed to attend. The fact of the matter is an overwhelming majority of students who play football at Many are zoned for Many. Kids from Zwolle are not going to Many. They're playing basketball at Zwolle because of the history of that community. This has been discussed ad nauseum on this board. Many did benefit from some transfers because of Jess Curtis and the coaches that he hired, such as Jo Cryer, Carson Curtis and Tackett Curtis (unless I'm mistaken Gunner Curtis did not play at Many).
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Post by bluebonnetspearman on Mar 21, 2024 9:42:55 GMT -6
Your infatuation with and devotion to Curtis is impressive. I'll give you that.
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Post by bluebonnetspearman on Mar 21, 2024 9:46:50 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school.
NONE!
Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all forced to be "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny.
I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it.
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Post by lhsaamemes on Mar 21, 2024 10:01:27 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. Attachments:
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Post by lhsaamemes on Mar 21, 2024 10:01:41 GMT -6
Many's trademark all during the Curtis years was defense but that was at the 2A level and in a very weak district and not having to play, much less beat, any private schools to win in the playoffs. Before the split and before Sabine's open enrollment started Many wasn't exactly a threat or a state power. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not they WERE and ARE drawing from the entire parish and there are a ton of athletes in Zwolle, Florien, Negreet and Pleasant Hill,judging by their basketball accomplishments, and a lot of them ended up at Many playing football. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not, Many couldn't get past the quarterfinals before the split. One trip to the Dome in the late 80's and a semi final game somewhere along the way when Feaster was there in the late 90's I think. I think there was a quarterfinal game under Keith Menard but they lost to Evangel in the 2000's sometime. Other than that, not much. Then the split happens and Sabine goes to open enrollment and VOILA!!! Many is suddenly a state power. That's not a coincidence. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not the split and open enrollment made you a state power. Before that you were slightly above average. I have seen Many play over the last several years. I am a fan of their style on both sides of the ball and the aggressiveness of their kids. But let's be honest. They are no different than say a Union or an Oak Grove. They are a team playing lower division ball while getting kids from their entire parish and getting good coaching and not having to play private schools to get to the Dome. I think Curtis and his coaches were entirely out of their depth at Natchitoches Central and he will be out of his depth at Southside unless he finds some good help. 5A is a whole other animal from 2A in talent, depth, public relations and coaching. Some guys are just good small ball, small town coaches and should stay there. This is just complete and total fabrication. Full stop: Lies. Sabine Parish does not have open enrollment. If Sabine Parish had open enrollment, Many would have been classified as a select school the past two years. It doesn't. Many, like several other schools, including D-1 Non-Select champion Ruston, is the only football school in the parish, so students who want to play that sport are allowed to attend. The fact of the matter is an overwhelming majority of students who play football at Many are zoned for Many. Kids from Zwolle are not going to Many. They're playing basketball at Zwolle because of the history of that community. This has been discussed ad nauseum on this board. Many did benefit from some transfers because of Jess Curtis and the coaches that he hired, such as Jo Cryer, Carson Curtis and Tackett Curtis (unless I'm mistaken Gunner Curtis did not play at Many). Attachments:
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Post by airraid on Mar 21, 2024 10:13:31 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. 😂
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Post by indy on Mar 21, 2024 11:07:12 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all forced to be "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. There is a difference somewhat. Acadia has open enrollment but to say they all should be select is misleading. Crowley has a net loss so the open enrollment works against them whereas Iota and Church Point gain. The same could be said for Sabine and other parishes
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Post by JustAFootballDude on Mar 21, 2024 11:15:16 GMT -6
This right here. Fontenot definitely got a lot, if not all, out of those kids at Southside. There’s no “untapped potential” or some “hidden goldmine” there. Let's not turn him inti Lombardi, he was a good coach, at a good school, who did a professional job, and did what he was supposed to. He did not underachieve, but he really did not overachieve either. Southside is the premiere public school in Lafayette, in a REALLY good area; The ONLY thing they lacked was a Home Football Stadium; EVERYTHING else was top notch. Curtis will bring a different mentality to the Defense, but who knows if that leads to success. I would figure Curtis is an upgrade, but time will tell. As far as a Hidden gold mine; NOT really... This will be the West Monroe of the South; Big, Strong, kinda slow, and a 2nd round exit... So Pretty much where they were the last couple of years? And no one is turning Fontenot into Lombardi, but it sure does seem like quite a few people are doing so with Curtis...
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Post by tigerfan7997 on Mar 21, 2024 11:18:31 GMT -6
Let's not turn him inti Lombardi, he was a good coach, at a good school, who did a professional job, and did what he was supposed to. He did not underachieve, but he really did not overachieve either. Southside is the premiere public school in Lafayette, in a REALLY good area; The ONLY thing they lacked was a Home Football Stadium; EVERYTHING else was top notch. Curtis will bring a different mentality to the Defense, but who knows if that leads to success. I would figure Curtis is an upgrade, but time will tell. As far as a Hidden gold mine; NOT really... This will be the West Monroe of the South; Big, Strong, kinda slow, and a 2nd round exit... So Pretty much where they were the last couple of years? And no one is turning Fontenot into Lombardi, but it sure does seem like quite a few people are doing so with Curtis... Lmao! When all you get to watch is CENLA football... He was Lombardi... In Lafayette he will just be another good coach at a good school.
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 21, 2024 11:48:44 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all forced to be "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. Again, this is such utter BS. There is a HUGE difference between open enrollment and a parish having only one football school. In Rapides Parish, any student can enroll in any high school in the parish for whatever reason they want. I live in Pineville, but my parents graduated from ASH so I want to go to ASH. OK. I live in Boyce, but I want to play basketball at Peabody. OK. I live in Pineville but want to play baseball at Tioga. OK. I live in Alexandria but want to be in Pineville's band. I'm zoned for Peabody, but I want ASH or Pineville's academics. OK. It doesn't matter the reason. A parish that has only one football school can take only kids who want to play football. They can't take a basketball player or a baseball player or a softball player or a cross-country runner or anybody else for any other reason besides playing football. And they have to remain a part of that program their entire career or risk being sent back to their zoned school. That is a massive difference, and to pretend it's not is extremely disingenuous. My biggest complaint about everybody who gripes about how much this benefits Many (and Oak Grove) is nobody says a word about it happening at Ruston. Ruston can get kids from Grambling, Choudrant, Simsboro, Dubach, anywhere in the parish if they want to be a part of the football program. Do people use that to try to diminish the accomplishments of Jerod Baugh or the Bearcats? I've never heard anybody complain.
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Post by bullethole on Mar 21, 2024 11:52:28 GMT -6
So Pretty much where they were the last couple of years? And no one is turning Fontenot into Lombardi, but it sure does seem like quite a few people are doing so with Curtis... Lmao! When all you get to watch is CENLA football... He was Lombardi... In Lafayette he will just be another good coach at a good school. Exactly right.
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Post by bullethole on Mar 21, 2024 12:09:54 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all forced to be "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. Again, this is such utter BS. There is a HUGE difference between open enrollment and a parish having only one football school. In Rapides Parish, any student can enroll in any high school in the parish for whatever reason they want. I live in Pineville, but my parents graduated from ASH so I want to go to ASH. OK. I live in Boyce, but I want to play basketball at Peabody. OK. I live in Pineville but want to play baseball at Tioga. OK. I live in Alexandria but want to be in Pineville's band. I'm zoned for Peabody, but I want ASH or Pineville's academics. OK. It doesn't matter the reason. A parish that has only one football school can take only kids who want to play football. They can't take a basketball player or a baseball player or a softball player or a cross-country runner or anybody else for any other reason besides playing football. And they have to remain a part of that program their entire career or risk being sent back to their zoned school. That is a massive difference, and to pretend it's not is extremely disingenuous. My biggest complaint about everybody who gripes about how much this benefits Many (and Oak Grove) is nobody says a word about it happening at Ruston. Ruston can get kids from Grambling, Choudrant, Simsboro, Dubach, anywhere in the parish if they want to be a part of the football program. Do people use that to try to diminish the accomplishments of Jerod Baugh or the Bearcats? I've never heard anybody complain. A) Your second paragraph is ridiculous. Do you honestly think that there aren't Many-zoned kids at Zwolle or Florien or Negreet because they want to play basketball or baseball or softball there? I recall when Florien softball girls were as good as anyone in the state a few years back and Many was a below average team. Do you really think there weren't any girls on that Florien team that were zoned for Many? Or maybe they just want to be at a smaller school, or maybe they just want to go to school with Cousin Susie out at Negreet. Do you really think the school board is going to tell them no? Do you honestly believe that there are no kids at Many who are not in Many's zone and yet don't play football? You are a fool if you do. No one is going to kick any kid out for any reason, because it then opens up a Pandora's box of public questioning and scrutiny by parents that shines a light that gets seen by those outside the parish and by the LHSAA. You are living in a state of delusion that is created by your obvious blind admiration of a coach instead of looking at reality. B) No one says anything about Ruston because Coach Baugh seems to be a stand-up, low key guy who got humbled several years ago and learned to have some class. They are also in 5A, so there is no real advantage gained by getting kids from other schools in the parish. No one is going to complain about a 5A school getting a kid from Simsboro when they are playing great opponents. They still have to play the best of the best big boys and would do just fine against John Curtis or any of the other Catholic Leaguers if they were select. They also play in the district with West Monroe, Ouachita and a pretty good ASH. They also play a brutal non-district schedule. Take a look at this coming year's schedule!! They aren't hiding from anyone. A kid from Grambling or Dubach ain't going to change any of that.
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Post by JustAFootballDude on Mar 21, 2024 12:22:17 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all forced to be "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. Again, this is such utter BS. There is a HUGE difference between open enrollment and a parish having only one football school. In Rapides Parish, any student can enroll in any high school in the parish for whatever reason they want. I live in Pineville, but my parents graduated from ASH so I want to go to ASH. OK. I live in Boyce, but I want to play basketball at Peabody. OK. I live in Pineville but want to play baseball at Tioga. OK. I live in Alexandria but want to be in Pineville's band. I'm zoned for Peabody, but I want ASH or Pineville's academics. OK. It doesn't matter the reason. A parish that has only one football school can take only kids who want to play football. They can't take a basketball player or a baseball player or a softball player or a cross-country runner or anybody else for any other reason besides playing football. And they have to remain a part of that program their entire career or risk being sent back to their zoned school. That is a massive difference, and to pretend it's not is extremely disingenuous. My biggest complaint about everybody who gripes about how much this benefits Many (and Oak Grove) is nobody says a word about it happening at Ruston. Ruston can get kids from Grambling, Choudrant, Simsboro, Dubach, anywhere in the parish if they want to be a part of the football program. Do people use that to try to diminish the accomplishments of Jerod Baugh or the Bearcats? I've never heard anybody complain. So what you are saying is that a 2A football program that can pull kids from any other school in its parish because it is the only football playing school in the parish, technically giving it 4A enrollment numbers to pull from, is not at an advantage over another 2A football program that can only pull from the 2A enrollment on their campus? In no way is Many in the same type of situation as Loreauville.
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