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Post by lhsaamemes on Mar 21, 2024 12:28:12 GMT -6
There is no difference at all between a Parish that has a declared Open Enrollment and a parish that only has one football playing school that allows kids from any Parish school to attend that football playing school. NONE! Sabine Parish and Rapides Parish are no different from each other except that one is a legally declared Open Enrollment Parish and their schools are all forced to be "Select" and the other is following a Parish guideline and escapes LHSAA scrutiny. I assure you that there are kids from Zwolle, Negreet, Pleasant Hill and Florien that either have or are currently playing football at Many. That's open enrollment, regardless of how you label it. Again, this is such utter BS. There is a HUGE difference between open enrollment and a parish having only one football school. In Rapides Parish, any student can enroll in any high school in the parish for whatever reason they want. I live in Pineville, but my parents graduated from ASH so I want to go to ASH. OK. I live in Boyce, but I want to play basketball at Peabody. OK. I live in Pineville but want to play baseball at Tioga. OK. I live in Alexandria but want to be in Pineville's band. I'm zoned for Peabody, but I want ASH or Pineville's academics. OK. It doesn't matter the reason. A parish that has only one football school can take only kids who want to play football. They can't take a basketball player or a baseball player or a softball player or a cross-country runner or anybody else for any other reason besides playing football. And they have to remain a part of that program their entire career or risk being sent back to their zoned school. That is a massive difference, and to pretend it's not is extremely disingenuous. My biggest complaint about everybody who gripes about how much this benefits Many (and Oak Grove) is nobody says a word about it happening at Ruston. Ruston can get kids from Grambling, Choudrant, Simsboro, Dubach, anywhere in the parish if they want to be a part of the football program. Do people use that to try to diminish the accomplishments of Jerod Baugh or the Bearcats? I've never heard anybody complain. Attachments:
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Post by lhsaamemes on Mar 21, 2024 12:34:09 GMT -6
Again, this is such utter BS. There is a HUGE difference between open enrollment and a parish having only one football school. In Rapides Parish, any student can enroll in any high school in the parish for whatever reason they want. I live in Pineville, but my parents graduated from ASH so I want to go to ASH. OK. I live in Boyce, but I want to play basketball at Peabody. OK. I live in Pineville but want to play baseball at Tioga. OK. I live in Alexandria but want to be in Pineville's band. I'm zoned for Peabody, but I want ASH or Pineville's academics. OK. It doesn't matter the reason. A parish that has only one football school can take only kids who want to play football. They can't take a basketball player or a baseball player or a softball player or a cross-country runner or anybody else for any other reason besides playing football. And they have to remain a part of that program their entire career or risk being sent back to their zoned school. That is a massive difference, and to pretend it's not is extremely disingenuous. My biggest complaint about everybody who gripes about how much this benefits Many (and Oak Grove) is nobody says a word about it happening at Ruston. Ruston can get kids from Grambling, Choudrant, Simsboro, Dubach, anywhere in the parish if they want to be a part of the football program. Do people use that to try to diminish the accomplishments of Jerod Baugh or the Bearcats? I've never heard anybody complain. A) Your second paragraph is ridiculous. Do you honestly think that there aren't Many-zoned kids at Zwolle or Florien or Negreet because they want to play basketball or baseball or softball there? I recall when Florien softball girls were as good as anyone in the state a few years back and Many was a below average team. Do you really think there weren't any girls on that Florien team that were zoned for Many? Or maybe they just want to be at a smaller school, or maybe they just want to go to school with Cousin Susie out at Negreet. Do you really think the school board is going to tell them no? Do you honestly believe that there are no kids at Many who are not in Many's zone and yet don't play football? You are a fool if you do. No one is going to kick any kid out for any reason, because it then opens up a Pandora's box of public questioning and scrutiny by parents that shines a light that gets seen by those outside the parish and by the LHSAA. You are living in a state of delusion that is created by your obvious blind admiration of a coach instead of looking at reality. B) No one says anything about Ruston because Coach Baugh seems to be a stand-up, low key guy who got humbled several years ago and learned to have some class. They are also in 5A, so there is no real advantage gained by getting kids from other schools in the parish. No one is going to complain about a 5A school getting a kid from Simsboro when they are playing great opponents. They still have to play the best of the best big boys and would do just fine against John Curtis or any of the other Catholic Leaguers if they were select. They also play in the district with West Monroe, Ouachita and a pretty good ASH. They also play a brutal non-district schedule. Take a look at this coming year's schedule!! They aren't hiding from anyone. A kid from Grambling or Dubach ain't going to change any of that. Attachments:
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 21, 2024 21:45:02 GMT -6
Again, this is such utter BS. There is a HUGE difference between open enrollment and a parish having only one football school. In Rapides Parish, any student can enroll in any high school in the parish for whatever reason they want. I live in Pineville, but my parents graduated from ASH so I want to go to ASH. OK. I live in Boyce, but I want to play basketball at Peabody. OK. I live in Pineville but want to play baseball at Tioga. OK. I live in Alexandria but want to be in Pineville's band. I'm zoned for Peabody, but I want ASH or Pineville's academics. OK. It doesn't matter the reason. A parish that has only one football school can take only kids who want to play football. They can't take a basketball player or a baseball player or a softball player or a cross-country runner or anybody else for any other reason besides playing football. And they have to remain a part of that program their entire career or risk being sent back to their zoned school. That is a massive difference, and to pretend it's not is extremely disingenuous. My biggest complaint about everybody who gripes about how much this benefits Many (and Oak Grove) is nobody says a word about it happening at Ruston. Ruston can get kids from Grambling, Choudrant, Simsboro, Dubach, anywhere in the parish if they want to be a part of the football program. Do people use that to try to diminish the accomplishments of Jerod Baugh or the Bearcats? I've never heard anybody complain. A) Your second paragraph is ridiculous. Do you honestly think that there aren't Many-zoned kids at Zwolle or Florien or Negreet because they want to play basketball or baseball or softball there? I recall when Florien softball girls were as good as anyone in the state a few years back and Many was a below average team. Do you really think there weren't any girls on that Florien team that were zoned for Many? Or maybe they just want to be at a smaller school, or maybe they just want to go to school with Cousin Susie out at Negreet. Do you really think the school board is going to tell them no? Do you honestly believe that there are no kids at Many who are not in Many's zone and yet don't play football? You are a fool if you do. No one is going to kick any kid out for any reason, because it then opens up a Pandora's box of public questioning and scrutiny by parents that shines a light that gets seen by those outside the parish and by the LHSAA. You are living in a state of delusion that is created by your obvious blind admiration of a coach instead of looking at reality. B) No one says anything about Ruston because Coach Baugh seems to be a stand-up, low key guy who got humbled several years ago and learned to have some class. They are also in 5A, so there is no real advantage gained by getting kids from other schools in the parish. No one is going to complain about a 5A school getting a kid from Simsboro when they are playing great opponents. They still have to play the best of the best big boys and would do just fine against John Curtis or any of the other Catholic Leaguers if they were select. They also play in the district with West Monroe, Ouachita and a pretty good ASH. They also play a brutal non-district schedule. Take a look at this coming year's schedule!! They aren't hiding from anyone. A kid from Grambling or Dubach ain't going to change any of that. Your second paragraph is absolutely insane. Students in every parish are not allowed to go to a school just because they want to. It's the literal purpose of attendance zones. It also doesn't make any sense in that it would apply only to Many. "No one is going to kick any kid out for any reason, because it then opens up a Pandora's box of public questioning and scrutiny by parents that shines a light that gets seen by those outside the parish and by the LHSAA."If that's true, then Many doesn't have any advantage over any other school in the state because they're allowing whoever wants to attend to attend. (For the record, kids are denying the ability to attend certain schools all the time. Even in Rapides Parish, where open enrollment is a thing, students every year get their open enrollment revoked and they have to attend their zoned school. So, yes, they do kick kids out for certain reasons.)
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Post by indy on Mar 22, 2024 17:01:53 GMT -6
A) Your second paragraph is ridiculous. Do you honestly think that there aren't Many-zoned kids at Zwolle or Florien or Negreet because they want to play basketball or baseball or softball there? I recall when Florien softball girls were as good as anyone in the state a few years back and Many was a below average team. Do you really think there weren't any girls on that Florien team that were zoned for Many? Or maybe they just want to be at a smaller school, or maybe they just want to go to school with Cousin Susie out at Negreet. Do you really think the school board is going to tell them no? Do you honestly believe that there are no kids at Many who are not in Many's zone and yet don't play football? You are a fool if you do. No one is going to kick any kid out for any reason, because it then opens up a Pandora's box of public questioning and scrutiny by parents that shines a light that gets seen by those outside the parish and by the LHSAA. You are living in a state of delusion that is created by your obvious blind admiration of a coach instead of looking at reality. B) No one says anything about Ruston because Coach Baugh seems to be a stand-up, low key guy who got humbled several years ago and learned to have some class. They are also in 5A, so there is no real advantage gained by getting kids from other schools in the parish. No one is going to complain about a 5A school getting a kid from Simsboro when they are playing great opponents. They still have to play the best of the best big boys and would do just fine against John Curtis or any of the other Catholic Leaguers if they were select. They also play in the district with West Monroe, Ouachita and a pretty good ASH. They also play a brutal non-district schedule. Take a look at this coming year's schedule!! They aren't hiding from anyone. A kid from Grambling or Dubach ain't going to change any of that. Your second paragraph is absolutely insane. Students in every parish are not allowed to go to a school just because they want to. It's the literal purpose of attendance zones. It also doesn't make any sense in that it would apply only to Many. "No one is going to kick any kid out for any reason, because it then opens up a Pandora's box of public questioning and scrutiny by parents that shines a light that gets seen by those outside the parish and by the LHSAA."If that's true, then Many doesn't have any advantage over any other school in the state because they're allowing whoever wants to attend to attend. (For the record, kids are denying the ability to attend certain schools all the time. Even in Rapides Parish, where open enrollment is a thing, students every year get their open enrollment revoked and they have to attend their zoned school. So, yes, they do kick kids out for certain reasons.) I thought only select schools can accept and deny enrollment?
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Post by bullethole on Mar 22, 2024 17:07:32 GMT -6
Brethoss it took you 36 hours and that’s the best you can come up with? Local school boards don’t do shady things?
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 22, 2024 18:54:59 GMT -6
Brethoss it took you 36 hours and that’s the best you can come up with? Local school boards don’t do shady things? 😂😂😂😂 You really think the school board is involved with who goes to what school? Really? Outside of drawing school district lines, they have no role in school enrollment. School boards are not involved with what goes at a school on a day-to-day basis. Those decisions are made by the central office and/or the school administration. In Rapides Parish, the central office determines whether a student's open-enrollment application is accepted. For the most part, there are no issues with it being accepted. However, open enrollment can be revoked by the school administration for a number of reasons, usually behavior, grade and/or attendance issues. The school board's job is to hold the superintendent accountable, and to approve or deny major plans and changes within the district. If your board members are getting involved with what's happening at your school every day, that's a major overreach of their role. Maybe it happens at certain districts across the state. I can't speak for every single one. That's not the case generally in Rapides Parish.
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Post by mt2003 on Mar 22, 2024 21:56:45 GMT -6
Many's trademark all during the Curtis years was defense but that was at the 2A level and in a very weak district and not having to play, much less beat, any private schools to win in the playoffs. Before the split and before Sabine's open enrollment started Many wasn't exactly a threat or a state power. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not they WERE and ARE drawing from the entire parish and there are a ton of athletes in Zwolle, Florien, Negreet and Pleasant Hill,judging by their basketball accomplishments, and a lot of them ended up at Many playing football. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not, Many couldn't get past the quarterfinals before the split. One trip to the Dome in the late 80's and a semi final game somewhere along the way when Feaster was there in the late 90's I think. I think there was a quarterfinal game under Keith Menard but they lost to Evangel in the 2000's sometime. Other than that, not much. Then the split happens and Sabine goes to open enrollment and VOILA!!! Many is suddenly a state power. That's not a coincidence. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not the split and open enrollment made you a state power. Before that you were slightly above average. I have seen Many play over the last several years. I am a fan of their style on both sides of the ball and the aggressiveness of their kids. But let's be honest. They are no different than say a Union or an Oak Grove. They are a team playing lower division ball while getting kids from their entire parish and getting good coaching and not having to play private schools to get to the Dome. I think Curtis and his coaches were entirely out of their depth at Natchitoches Central and he will be out of his depth at Southside unless he finds some good help. 5A is a whole other animal from 2A in talent, depth, public relations and coaching. Some guys are just good small ball, small town coaches and should stay there. 🤣🤣 you make it sound like Zwolle kids are beating down Manys field house doors to play football... Zwolle kids especially, care about 1 thing: Basketball! They are the most dominant Basketball team in the state of Louisiana now with their 17th Championship.. Same goes for Negreet and Florien and P hill and Converse and Ebarb... Sabine Parish is and will be a Basketball Parish.. I mean hell the national record holders are from right here in Sabine Parish... Many is not an open enrollment parish.. Never has been.. The kids from all the schools come to the football games and support the football team cause damn near every kid in this parish knows each other and they are all friends or family.. Same way every years when the different Basketball teams in the parish are in the playoffs or playing for another state title the Many kids and Many fans are supporting those schools..
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Post by icemanparsons on Mar 23, 2024 6:13:37 GMT -6
I remember when Josh was hired from Crowley High to take over Southside. It was a chance for him to take over a new school in one of the toughest 5A districts in the state. I mean he had people on notice quick. One of my friends from Rayne’s son was Southside’s qb during that season when they beat Carencro and Acadiana. Hate to see him leave there but he definitely made his mark there. GL Josh. Hopefully they find someone just as great of a coach
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Post by bullethole on Mar 23, 2024 7:26:31 GMT -6
Brethoss it took you 36 hours and that’s the best you can come up with? Local school boards don’t do shady things? 😂😂😂😂 You really think the school board is involved with who goes to what school? Really? Outside of drawing school district lines, they have no role in school enrollment. School boards are not involved with what goes at a school on a day-to-day basis. Those decisions are made by the central office and/or the school administration. In Rapides Parish, the central office determines whether a student's open-enrollment application is accepted. For the most part, there are no issues with it being accepted. However, open enrollment can be revoked by the school administration for a number of reasons, usually behavior, grade and/or attendance issues. The school board's job is to hold the superintendent accountable, and to approve or deny major plans and changes within the district. If your board members are getting involved with what's happening at your school every day, that's a major overreach of their role. Maybe it happens at certain districts across the state. I can't speak for every single one. That's not the case generally in Rapides Parish. Good lord! You ARE naive! Lol.
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Post by bullethole on Mar 23, 2024 7:27:36 GMT -6
Many's trademark all during the Curtis years was defense but that was at the 2A level and in a very weak district and not having to play, much less beat, any private schools to win in the playoffs. Before the split and before Sabine's open enrollment started Many wasn't exactly a threat or a state power. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not they WERE and ARE drawing from the entire parish and there are a ton of athletes in Zwolle, Florien, Negreet and Pleasant Hill,judging by their basketball accomplishments, and a lot of them ended up at Many playing football. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not, Many couldn't get past the quarterfinals before the split. One trip to the Dome in the late 80's and a semi final game somewhere along the way when Feaster was there in the late 90's I think. I think there was a quarterfinal game under Keith Menard but they lost to Evangel in the 2000's sometime. Other than that, not much. Then the split happens and Sabine goes to open enrollment and VOILA!!! Many is suddenly a state power. That's not a coincidence. Whether people in Many want to admit it or not the split and open enrollment made you a state power. Before that you were slightly above average. I have seen Many play over the last several years. I am a fan of their style on both sides of the ball and the aggressiveness of their kids. But let's be honest. They are no different than say a Union or an Oak Grove. They are a team playing lower division ball while getting kids from their entire parish and getting good coaching and not having to play private schools to get to the Dome. I think Curtis and his coaches were entirely out of their depth at Natchitoches Central and he will be out of his depth at Southside unless he finds some good help. 5A is a whole other animal from 2A in talent, depth, public relations and coaching. Some guys are just good small ball, small town coaches and should stay there. 🤣🤣 you make it sound like Zwolle kids are beating down Manys field house doors to play football... Zwolle kids especially, care about 1 thing: Basketball! They are the most dominant Basketball team in the state of Louisiana now with their 17th Championship.. Same goes for Negreet and Florien and P hill and Converse and Ebarb... Sabine Parish is and will be a Basketball Parish.. I mean hell the national record holders are from right here in Sabine Parish... Many is not an open enrollment parish.. Never has been.. The kids from all the schools come to the football games and support the football team cause damn near every kid in this parish knows each other and they are all friends or family.. Same way every years when the different Basketball teams in the parish are in the playoffs or playing for another state title the Many kids and Many fans are supporting those schools.. Mmm——hmmmm. And let’s not forget about the kids from the Provencal and Robeline and Marthaville area that have been slipping to Many for a good while now.
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 24, 2024 15:39:50 GMT -6
🤣🤣 you make it sound like Zwolle kids are beating down Manys field house doors to play football... Zwolle kids especially, care about 1 thing: Basketball! They are the most dominant Basketball team in the state of Louisiana now with their 17th Championship.. Same goes for Negreet and Florien and P hill and Converse and Ebarb... Sabine Parish is and will be a Basketball Parish.. I mean hell the national record holders are from right here in Sabine Parish... Many is not an open enrollment parish.. Never has been.. The kids from all the schools come to the football games and support the football team cause damn near every kid in this parish knows each other and they are all friends or family.. Same way every years when the different Basketball teams in the parish are in the playoffs or playing for another state title the Many kids and Many fans are supporting those schools.. Mmm——hmmmm. And let’s not forget about the kids from the Provencal and Robeline and Marthaville area that have been slipping to Many for a good while now. Dude, I don't know how Jess hurt you, but I'm sorry that he did. You have any proof for these insane allegations you're throwing around? What kids playing at Many live in Natchitoches Parish?
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Post by bullethole on Mar 24, 2024 16:17:55 GMT -6
Mmm——hmmmm. And let’s not forget about the kids from the Provencal and Robeline and Marthaville area that have been slipping to Many for a good while now. Dude, I don't know how Jess hurt you, but I'm sorry that he did. You have any proof for these insane allegations you're throwing around? What kids playing at Many live in Natchitoches Parish? Jess? What does Jess have to with this? I thought we were talking about Many. You ARE infatuated aren’t you?
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 25, 2024 10:26:14 GMT -6
Dude, I don't know how Jess hurt you, but I'm sorry that he did. You have any proof for these insane allegations you're throwing around? What kids playing at Many live in Natchitoches Parish? Jess? What does Jess have to with this? I thought we were talking about Many. You ARE infatuated aren’t you? Typically, people who are griping about Many are griping about Jess Curtis. Their success has been synonymous with his leading the football program.
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Post by bullethole on Mar 25, 2024 10:35:32 GMT -6
Jess? What does Jess have to with this? I thought we were talking about Many. You ARE infatuated aren’t you? Typically, people who are griping about Many are griping about Jess Curtis. Their success has been synonymous with his leading the football program. Their success has been synonymous with the Split and the school board voting to allow a kid from any school in the parish to show up at Many and play football. Fixed it for you.
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Post by hasbeen on Mar 25, 2024 11:13:55 GMT -6
I understand if you don't like Many or a certain school, but I will never understand a grown human being that believes we should tell a kid that wants to play football tough s. Need to check your priorities and whether or not you actually think football is important.
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Post by chalmetteowl on Mar 25, 2024 11:40:46 GMT -6
I understand if you don't like Many or a certain school, but I will never understand a grown human being that believes we should tell a kid that wants to play football tough s. Need to check your priorities and whether or not you actually think football is important. We know for a fact the class B principals, a few in Sabine Parish, don’t. Their schools are the same size as ones that do play football yet they don’t A special place in hell goes to Doyle’s principal who let that school get to 3A size without starting a program
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Post by bluebonnetspearman on Mar 25, 2024 12:02:30 GMT -6
I understand if you don't like Many or a certain school, but I will never understand a grown human being that believes we should tell a kid that wants to play football tough s. Need to check your priorities and whether or not you actually think football is important. Is it important? More important than say baseball or basketball or track? Why should football get special treatment? I happen to be a baseball fan but I understand it’s basically a non-revenue sport. I also understand a lot of smaller schools have long histories in baseball, like Hicks or Oak Hill or Runnels or Choudrant. They don’t want football. It’s not in their DNA. It’s not an expense they want. It’s not a priority. Some small schools are traditional basketball powers and don’t want football. Their entire identity is tied up in basketball. That is their priority and their right. If a kid is at one of these schools but desires to play football and it is important enough to him and his parents, then they need to move. The argument that Many has, in theory, a 4A enrollment based on the number of potential kids that they have access to is a legitimate argument. Until people in Sabine Parish and Many admit that, people will continue to cheapen their success. Just me looking at things from the outside. Not bashing anyone or any school.
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Post by hasbeen on Mar 25, 2024 14:14:54 GMT -6
I understand if you don't like Many or a certain school, but I will never understand a grown human being that believes we should tell a kid that wants to play football tough s. Need to check your priorities and whether or not you actually think football is important. Is it important? More important than say baseball or basketball or track? Why should football get special treatment? I happen to be a baseball fan but I understand it’s basically a non-revenue sport. I also understand a lot of smaller schools have long histories in baseball, like Hicks or Oak Hill or Runnels or Choudrant. They don’t want football. It’s not in their DNA. It’s not an expense they want. It’s not a priority. Some small schools are traditional basketball powers and don’t want football. Their entire identity is tied up in basketball. That is their priority and their right. If a kid is at one of these schools but desires to play football and it is important enough to him and his parents, then they need to move. The argument that Many has, in theory, a 4A enrollment based on the number of potential kids that they have access to is a legitimate argument. Until people in Sabine Parish and Many admit that, people will continue to cheapen their success. Just me looking at things from the outside. Not bashing anyone or any school. Its not more important. I totally agree that if there's only one basketball team, tennis team, badminton team... in the parish, that a child's participation should not be denied if the parents are willing to make it happen. And if they don't want to play that's fine too. I do not agree thats a legitimate arguement.
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Post by cheezs on Mar 25, 2024 15:06:06 GMT -6
we should just let parents and students be able to choose any school they want to attend for whatever reason they believe best for them.
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Post by Sixpack on Mar 25, 2024 20:15:29 GMT -6
we should just let parents and students be able to choose any school they want to attend for whatever reason they believe best for them. And what would be the solution when certain schools began drawing all the best athletes and winning all the state titles every year like it was back before the original split? What then, another split? That wouldn't fly.
Or maybe NIL to draw the best athletes since there would be no boundaries. Then the richest areas would win all the championships. That wouldn't fly.
As long as private schools play in the same system as public schools then it looks like select and non select is about as close as you will ever get to parity.
And even that flies like a wounded duck.
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Post by unbiasedobserver on Mar 25, 2024 21:58:08 GMT -6
If we’re being honest, that’s basically what it is now.
The rural schools should have their own brackets. Everyone else together.
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Post by lhsaamemes on Mar 26, 2024 8:31:48 GMT -6
If we’re being honest, that’s basically what it is now. The rural schools should have their own brackets. Everyone else together. Attachments:
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 26, 2024 14:37:41 GMT -6
I understand if you don't like Many or a certain school, but I will never understand a grown human being that believes we should tell a kid that wants to play football tough s. Need to check your priorities and whether or not you actually think football is important. Is it important? More important than say baseball or basketball or track? Why should football get special treatment? I happen to be a baseball fan but I understand it’s basically a non-revenue sport. I also understand a lot of smaller schools have long histories in baseball, like Hicks or Oak Hill or Runnels or Choudrant. They don’t want football. It’s not in their DNA. It’s not an expense they want. It’s not a priority. Some small schools are traditional basketball powers and don’t want football. Their entire identity is tied up in basketball. That is their priority and their right. If a kid is at one of these schools but desires to play football and it is important enough to him and his parents, then they need to move. The argument that Many has, in theory, a 4A enrollment based on the number of potential kids that they have access to is a legitimate argument. Until people in Sabine Parish and Many admit that, people will continue to cheapen their success. Just me looking at things from the outside. Not bashing anyone or any school. This attitude is the absolute dumbest mentality in the world. Football isn't more important than baseball. If a school doesn't offer baseball and a kid wants to play that sport, he has just as much right to go to the nearest school that offers it. It's not that damn hard. This mentality that you must up and move because the school nearest your residence doesn't offer an extracurricular activity that your kid wants is absolutely insane.
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Post by indy on Mar 26, 2024 15:34:55 GMT -6
Is it important? More important than say baseball or basketball or track? Why should football get special treatment? I happen to be a baseball fan but I understand it’s basically a non-revenue sport. I also understand a lot of smaller schools have long histories in baseball, like Hicks or Oak Hill or Runnels or Choudrant. They don’t want football. It’s not in their DNA. It’s not an expense they want. It’s not a priority. Some small schools are traditional basketball powers and don’t want football. Their entire identity is tied up in basketball. That is their priority and their right. If a kid is at one of these schools but desires to play football and it is important enough to him and his parents, then they need to move. The argument that Many has, in theory, a 4A enrollment based on the number of potential kids that they have access to is a legitimate argument. Until people in Sabine Parish and Many admit that, people will continue to cheapen their success. Just me looking at things from the outside. Not bashing anyone or any school. This attitude is the absolute dumbest mentality in the world. Football isn't more important than baseball. If a school doesn't offer baseball and a kid wants to play that sport, he has just as much right to go to the nearest school that offers it. It's not that damn hard. This mentality that you must up and move because the school nearest your residence doesn't offer an extracurricular activity that your kid wants is absolutely insane. Your attitude trying to portray Sabine Parish as squeaking clean is funny. The shenanigans amongst the Bookers and Curtis’s pretty much disqualifies the terms honest, integrity, rule followers, etc.
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Post by cheezs on Mar 26, 2024 15:46:48 GMT -6
we should just let parents and students be able to choose any school they want to attend for whatever reason they believe best for them. And what would be the solution when certain schools began drawing all the best athletes and winning all the state titles every year like it was back before the original split? What then, another split? That wouldn't fly.
Or maybe NIL to draw the best athletes since there would be no boundaries. Then the richest areas would win all the championships. That wouldn't fly.
As long as private schools play in the same system as public schools then it looks like select and non select is about as close as you will ever get to parity.
And even that flies like a wounded duck.People should be able to choose whatever school they feel is best for them and their children. I don't think anything beyond that should matter.
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Post by Sixpack on Mar 26, 2024 19:45:47 GMT -6
People should be able to choose whatever school they feel is best for them and their children. I don't think anything beyond that should matter. Many many years ago that's the way it was. A kid could go to school anywhere in the state he wanted and play any sport he wanted if he was good enough to make the team. He could live in one town and attend school in a diffetrent town many miles away if he wanted to as long as he got to class on time every day. Nobody cared about addresses. Not many people did that but they could have. A lot of good athletes from smaller schools went to nearby larger schools in different towns back then. Especiallky basketball and baseball. The first thing that changed that was civil rights legislation that created new boundaries and enforced school zones. Even then a school's sports teams were not affected other than teams became better because of the arrival of new athletes they didn''t have access to before.
When the 'spit' hit the fan in sports in general and football in particular was the arrival of private schools and LHSAA rules that allowed them to gain an advantage over public schools and build monster programs if that's what they were dedicated to do, all the while playing by the rules. (Rumors and claims of cheating notwithstanding).
That's what caused the split. It has now become so complicated and so devoid of any kind of real control that I don't even keep up with it any more. Sometime I share your opinion that the best way would be to just go back to what it was like "a long long time ago. But nothing ever goes backward. Only forward.
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Post by bhossmac on Mar 26, 2024 20:38:42 GMT -6
This attitude is the absolute dumbest mentality in the world. Football isn't more important than baseball. If a school doesn't offer baseball and a kid wants to play that sport, he has just as much right to go to the nearest school that offers it. It's not that damn hard. This mentality that you must up and move because the school nearest your residence doesn't offer an extracurricular activity that your kid wants is absolutely insane. Your attitude trying to portray Sabine Parish as squeaking clean is funny. The shenanigans amongst the Bookers and Curtis’s pretty much disqualifies the terms honest, integrity, rule followers, etc. indy, It's 100% clear how you feel about Jess Curtis and Many, just like it's 100% clear how I feel. I like Jess, respect what he built in Many, and think he's a great football coach who built a strong program at a school that didn't have much of a football history before he got there. You blame Many for the split and think Jess has only won because he hasn't had to play private schools. That's fine. We are both free to have our opinions. I've never said Sabine Parish is squeaky clean. Now that Jess is gone, I literally don't know a single person there. I just find it funny -- and without question hypocritical -- that the Many haters on this board try to point to perceived advantages that Many has while completely ignoring that Many is not the only school that benefits from that (nor is it at all Many's fault that other schools in the parish don't play football).
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