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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 11:06:21 GMT -6
If any school, public or private, funds/stipends tuition to any student in that school, no matter if they play athletics or not, then said school will play in a select bracket both regular season and playoffs.
LHSAA can survey financial records.
Here is what would happen. Those schools who actively "scholarship" kids, would be in another league. Plain and simple. Now, select school folks, debate amongst yourselves.
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Post by pinion on Apr 18, 2016 11:15:47 GMT -6
If any school, public or private, funds/stipends tuition to any student in that school, no matter if they play athletics or not, then said school will play in a select bracket both regular season and playoffs. LHSAA can survey financial records. Here is what would happen. Those schools who actively "scholarship" kids, would be in another league. Plain and simple. Now, select school folks, debate amongst yourselves. So then every public school would be "select" since all those kids are there on the public dime.
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 11:16:05 GMT -6
If any school, public or private, funds/stipends tuition to any student in that school, no matter if they play athletics or not, then said school will play in a select bracket both regular season and playoffs. LHSAA can survey financial records. Here is what would happen. Those schools who actively "scholarship" kids, would be in another league. Plain and simple. Now, select school folks, debate amongst yourselves. So, the private schools that don't pay stipends, scholarships, financial aid, vouchers, etc. would NOT be in this league?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 12:26:49 GMT -6
Anyone can choose to be in it, but those who provide financial aid in any manner, to any student, athlete or not, MUST be in this league. Lets call a spade a spade. This puts the rubber to the road.
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Post by eag on Apr 18, 2016 13:16:58 GMT -6
Anyone can choose to be in it, but those who provide financial aid in any manner, to any student, athlete or not, MUST be in this league. Lets call a spade a spade. This puts the rubber to the road. So if I give aid to a clarinet player my football team has to play select? Brilliant, hits right at the heart of the issue! Kind of like moving Ecole Classique to separate bracket because Winnfield cannot beat Curtis. For the record, and for the millionth time, I do not think a Winnfield can compete with a Curtis year in and year out. So I'm all about figuring out what to do with a Curtis. I just fail to see how moving all these other schools helps at all, because the list of schools that cannot compete with them includes a ton of private schools too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2016 15:28:42 GMT -6
Anyone can choose to be in it, but those who provide financial aid in any manner, to any student, athlete or not, MUST be in this league. Lets call a spade a spade. This puts the rubber to the road. So if I give aid to a clarinet player my football team has to play select? Brilliant, hits right at the heart of the issue! Kind of like moving Ecole Classique to separate bracket because Winnfield cannot beat Curtis. For the record, and for the millionth time, I do not think a Winnfield can compete with a Curtis year in and year out. So I'm all about figuring out what to do with a Curtis. I just fail to see how moving all these other schools helps at all, because the list of schools that cannot compete with them includes a ton of private schools too. I agree with this. I don't know why they did not just put the classifications back together as they were and use the performance committee (whatever they are to be called) that moves the power houses up to either 5A or have a super class and call it 6A. Treat all powerhouse programs the same. But I would make it where they have to move up in every sport. I think that would take care of the issue about select schools not "speaking up" or whatever the latest excuse is. But it would make ALL of the powerhouse programs compete against each other. No more "picking" the class to avoid the other powerhouses.
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Post by btown on Apr 18, 2016 16:29:02 GMT -6
So if I give aid to a clarinet player my football team has to play select? Brilliant, hits right at the heart of the issue! Kind of like moving Ecole Classique to separate bracket because Winnfield cannot beat Curtis. For the record, and for the millionth time, I do not think a Winnfield can compete with a Curtis year in and year out. So I'm all about figuring out what to do with a Curtis. I just fail to see how moving all these other schools helps at all, because the list of schools that cannot compete with them includes a ton of private schools too. I agree with this. I don't know why they did not just put the classifications back together as they were and use the performance committee (whatever they are to be called) that moves the power houses up to either 5A or have a super class and call it 6A. Treat all powerhouse programs the same. But I would make it where they have to move up in every sport. I think that would take care of the issue about select schools not "speaking up" or whatever the latest excuse is. But it would make ALL of the powerhouse programs compete against each other. No more "picking" the class to avoid the other powerhouses. I believe that they did try to vote something about a competition committee, but it was voted down. This also would a big move to bring it back together. All programs should have a chance to be evaluated and placed in the class they belong. Some schools need to go down a class to give their program a chance to develop.
If they would stop trying to back door the split, give it a chance, the principals would work on improving the system. But it is a fight just to keep what they voted on, can never look to the future, always in the past.
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Post by deadman318 on Apr 18, 2016 16:38:58 GMT -6
I agree with this. I don't know why they did not just put the classifications back together as they were and use the performance committee (whatever they are to be called) that moves the power houses up to either 5A or have a super class and call it 6A. Treat all powerhouse programs the same. But I would make it where they have to move up in every sport. I think that would take care of the issue about select schools not "speaking up" or whatever the latest excuse is. But it would make ALL of the powerhouse programs compete against each other. No more "picking" the class to avoid the other powerhouses. I believe that they did try to vote something about a competition committee, but it was voted down. This also would a big move to bring it back together. All programs should have a chance to be evaluated and placed in the class they belong. Some schools need to go down a class to give their program a chance to develop.
If they would stop trying to back door the split, give it a chance, the principals would work on improving the system. But it is a fight just to keep what they voted on, can never look to the future, always in the past.
Yeah, but some principals will NEVER change... That is the problem... The Airline principal, who I hear is a pretty solid guy, was quoted once as saying his mission was to make sure that Calvary and Evangel couldn't play any non-district games in Louisiana... Regardless of how people are... Tough to change their opinions no matter how much progress you make....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 7:07:06 GMT -6
I agree with this. I don't know why they did not just put the classifications back together as they were and use the performance committee (whatever they are to be called) that moves the power houses up to either 5A or have a super class and call it 6A. Treat all powerhouse programs the same. But I would make it where they have to move up in every sport. I think that would take care of the issue about select schools not "speaking up" or whatever the latest excuse is. But it would make ALL of the powerhouse programs compete against each other. No more "picking" the class to avoid the other powerhouses. I believe that they did try to vote something about a competition committee, but it was voted down. This also would a big move to bring it back together. All programs should have a chance to be evaluated and placed in the class they belong. Some schools need to go down a class to give their program a chance to develop.
If they would stop trying to back door the split, give it a chance, the principals would work on improving the system. But it is a fight just to keep what they voted on, can never look to the future, always in the past.
You give the principals way more credit than I do. This split vote was lazy, spiteful, and short-sighted. They wanted to stick it to the privates. Not deal with he ones who are the issue, just all of them. There have been many examples given of small private schools that simply use athletics as the extracurricular high school experience enhancer it should be. Doesn't matter! We started the BS mantra of "denying enrollment" as an athletics benefit. These principals have placed the entire LHSAA in jeopardy of legislative intervention, a potential competitive high school association, and twisted the student athletes in the mist of it all. I would be SURPRISED if they come up with anything close to a solution. Someone will have to develop a real solution and present it to the principals before any change will occur. For what it is worth, I do not like this new proposal either. It really isn't better than the current split. You simply cannot have teams that are similar in size compete for district honors all season, and then group some of them in a different size to compete for post season. All the while keeping some in the same classification size. It is either compete regular season and post season, or neither.
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Post by btown on Apr 19, 2016 7:14:06 GMT -6
I believe that they did try to vote something about a competition committee, but it was voted down. This also would a big move to bring it back together. All programs should have a chance to be evaluated and placed in the class they belong. Some schools need to go down a class to give their program a chance to develop.
If they would stop trying to back door the split, give it a chance, the principals would work on improving the system. But it is a fight just to keep what they voted on, can never look to the future, always in the past.
You give the principals way more credit than I do. This split vote was lazy, spiteful, and short-sighted. They wanted to stick it to the privates. Not deal with he ones who are the issue, just all of them. There have been many examples given of small private schools that simply use athletics as the extracurricular high school experience enhancer it should be. Doesn't matter! We started the BS mantra of "denying enrollment" as an athletics benefit. These principals have placed the entire LHSAA in jeopardy of legislative intervention, a potential competitive high school association, and twisted the student athletes in the mist of it all. I would be SURPRISED if they come up with anything close to a solution. Someone will have to develop a real solution and present it to the principals before any change will occur. For what it is worth, I do not like this new proposal either. It really isn't better than the current split. You simply cannot have teams that are similar in size compete for district honors all season, and then group some of them in a different size to compete for post season. All the while keeping some in the same classification size. It is either compete regular season and post season, or neither. Then you are no different than the principals you talk about. It is either your way our the high way. We will never go back to the old system, so they need to take what we have and continue to improve on it. As long as they(principals) have to fight to keep what they have they will never be able to move forward.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 7:15:08 GMT -6
I believe that they did try to vote something about a competition committee, but it was voted down. This also would a big move to bring it back together. All programs should have a chance to be evaluated and placed in the class they belong. Some schools need to go down a class to give their program a chance to develop.
If they would stop trying to back door the split, give it a chance, the principals would work on improving the system. But it is a fight just to keep what they voted on, can never look to the future, always in the past.
You give the principals way more credit than I do. This split vote was lazy, spiteful, and short-sighted. They wanted to stick it to the privates. Not deal with he ones who are the issue, just all of them. There have been many examples given of small private schools that simply use athletics as the extracurricular high school experience enhancer it should be. Doesn't matter! We started the BS mantra of "denying enrollment" as an athletics benefit. These principals have placed the entire LHSAA in jeopardy of legislative intervention, a potential competitive high school association, and twisted the student athletes in the mist of it all. I would be SURPRISED if they come up with anything close to a solution. Someone will have to develop a real solution and present it to the principals before any change will occur. For what it is worth, I do not like this new proposal either. It really isn't better than the current split. You simply cannot have teams that are similar in size compete for district honors all season, and then group some of them in a different size to compete for post season. All the while keeping some in the same classification size. It is either compete regular season and post season, or neither. Once again, simple solution. If a private school gives 1 cent of financial aid to any student, anywhere in its system, then they play in a Select league. If they dont, they play with non selects. Simple.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 7:16:22 GMT -6
You give the principals way more credit than I do. This split vote was lazy, spiteful, and short-sighted. They wanted to stick it to the privates. Not deal with he ones who are the issue, just all of them. There have been many examples given of small private schools that simply use athletics as the extracurricular high school experience enhancer it should be. Doesn't matter! We started the BS mantra of "denying enrollment" as an athletics benefit. These principals have placed the entire LHSAA in jeopardy of legislative intervention, a potential competitive high school association, and twisted the student athletes in the mist of it all. I would be SURPRISED if they come up with anything close to a solution. Someone will have to develop a real solution and present it to the principals before any change will occur. For what it is worth, I do not like this new proposal either. It really isn't better than the current split. You simply cannot have teams that are similar in size compete for district honors all season, and then group some of them in a different size to compete for post season. All the while keeping some in the same classification size. It is either compete regular season and post season, or neither. Then you are no different than the principals you talk about. It is either your way our the high way. We will never go back to the old system, so they need to take what we have and continue to improve on it. As long as they(principals) have to fight to keep what they have they will never be able to move forward. Exactly. The private sector wants things they way they were. Thats not gonna happen. Their bullheadedness is the reason we cant "move forward"
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Apr 19, 2016 7:26:16 GMT -6
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I know you keep saying any financial help to any student means that school is select. Does this also mean that if a student with a voucher from the state goes to ABC private school that this school is now select, even if this is the only financial help given?
As far as the voucher system, a parent can send their child to any public school in the Parish as well, so does this mean that if a Public School accepts a voucher student that they are now select as well?
So does this mean that parents who pay to send their child to private school, but still pay taxes for the local school system are now sponsoring/giving aid to students who attend the local Public School? If so that means that every school in the state are select.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 7:28:39 GMT -6
Bob I know you keep saying any financial help to any student means that school is select. Does this also mean that if a student with a voucher from the state goes to ABC private school that this school is now select, even if this is the only financial help given? As far as the voucher system, a parent can send their child to any public school in the Parish as well, so does this mean that if a Public School accepts a voucher student that they are now select as well? So does this mean that parents who pay to send their child to private school, but still pay taxes for the local school system are now sponsoring/giving aid to students who attend the local Public School? If so that means that every school in the state are select. Nope, it means that any child who the private school or its boosters or church, give financial aid to attend their institution, is Select. Simple. Vouchers are random by law, supposedly. Simple
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 7:30:45 GMT -6
Anyone who sends their child to a private school makes a choice. A choice does not relieve any of us of a tax burden, no metter where or how those taxes are spent.
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Post by publicgradprivatedad on Apr 19, 2016 7:59:11 GMT -6
I have a hard time believing that if a student has been going to a Catholic School since Pre-K, that if that parent has lost a job or something that makes it impossible to pay the tuition for their child to attend that if the church/school wants to let them pay partial or no tuition that this is a bad thing. I know many parents that struggle to send their kids to private schools, but still choose to because they believe that it's best for their child.
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 19, 2016 8:17:07 GMT -6
If any school, public or private, funds/stipends tuition to any student in that school, no matter if they play athletics or not, then said school will play in a select bracket both regular season and playoffs. LHSAA can survey financial records. Here is what would happen. Those schools who actively "scholarship" kids, would be in another league. Plain and simple. Now, select school folks, debate amongst yourselves. So then every public school would be "select" since all those kids are there on the public dime. No my friend, this is only for the private schools. Public schools will be exempt from having the LHSAA audit them. More double standard and hypocrisy, discrimination against the minority. It is simply another attempt to diminish the failure of the public system by distracting from the real problems of state education.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 8:34:42 GMT -6
Simple rule. Easy to enforce. The scenarios you gentlemen throw up, would be rare if ever, and certainly could be ruled upon by an appeals committee.
Public schools do not charge tuition, so an audit is uneccessary. Sounds to me like this idea hits a little to close to home for you? If a public school did charge tution for say a magnet situation or whatever, then they could be audited as well.
No hypocrisy. Just cuts to the chase. Lets see, once and for all, who actively paying for kids tuitions, and who is not.
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 19, 2016 8:40:18 GMT -6
You give the principals way more credit than I do. This split vote was lazy, spiteful, and short-sighted. They wanted to stick it to the privates. Not deal with he ones who are the issue, just all of them. There have been many examples given of small private schools that simply use athletics as the extracurricular high school experience enhancer it should be. Doesn't matter! We started the BS mantra of "denying enrollment" as an athletics benefit. These principals have placed the entire LHSAA in jeopardy of legislative intervention, a potential competitive high school association, and twisted the student athletes in the mist of it all. I would be SURPRISED if they come up with anything close to a solution. Someone will have to develop a real solution and present it to the principals before any change will occur. For what it is worth, I do not like this new proposal either. It really isn't better than the current split. You simply cannot have teams that are similar in size compete for district honors all season, and then group some of them in a different size to compete for post season. All the while keeping some in the same classification size. It is either compete regular season and post season, or neither. Then you are no different than the principals you talk about. It is either your way our the high way. We will never go back to the old system, so they need to take what we have and continue to improve on it. As long as they(principals) have to fight to keep what they have they will never be able to move forward. “Measures are too often decided, not according to the rules of justice and the rights of the minor party, but by the superior force of an interested and overbearing majority.” James Madison “Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There was never a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” John Adams I know many of the younger posters on this board and some principals have no idea who these guys are, but you would not be here with out them. They summed up the disaster of what has become the LHSAA in two simple quotes. 70 years later our nation was embroiled in a bloody and unnecessary Civil War, that was not to end slavery but to preserve the union per Abraham Lincoln. When that preservation turned unpopular in the north, he then shifted his stance to include the end of slavery. Lincoln then proceeded to limit the rights of the people, including repeal of habeas corpus and other rights. Funny thing, is for the majority of the war his edicts only effected those states that put him in office. He suppressed his people in the north for he had no rule over the south until after it was conquered. The LHSAA is having a "Civil War" of its own, but not over a just cause or to improve and unify the association, but to discriminate and destroy the association as the goal of the majority. Private schools will have to secede from union with the LHSAA, one day soon. The LHSAA is doomed.
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 19, 2016 8:43:12 GMT -6
Bob I know you keep saying any financial help to any student means that school is select. Does this also mean that if a student with a voucher from the state goes to ABC private school that this school is now select, even if this is the only financial help given? As far as the voucher system, a parent can send their child to any public school in the Parish as well, so does this mean that if a Public School accepts a voucher student that they are now select as well? So does this mean that parents who pay to send their child to private school, but still pay taxes for the local school system are now sponsoring/giving aid to students who attend the local Public School? If so that means that every school in the state are select. Nope, it means that any child who the private school or its boosters or church, give financial aid to attend their institution, is Select. Simple. Vouchers are random by law, supposedly. Simple NO, it means BigBob is a tyrannt wanting to dictate where people send their children to school and how those parents fund their child's education.
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 19, 2016 8:55:34 GMT -6
Simple rule. Easy to enforce. The scenarios you gentlemen throw up, would be rare if ever, and certainly could be ruled upon by an appeals committee. Public schools do not charge tuition, so an audit is uneccessary. Sounds to me like this idea hits a little to close to home for you? If a public school did charge tution for say a magnet situation or whatever, then they could be audited as well. No hypocrisy. Just cuts to the chase. Lets see, once and for all, who actively paying for kids tuitions, and who is not. You are obviously unaware that EVERY private school has to produce and publicly publish its financial aid policy to the public (BESE regulations) and submit reports annually to the LHSAA. The LHSAA regularly audits the records of EVERY athlete at the private schools and looks specifically at how those athlete's tuition is paid based on the financial aid policy of the institution. So tuition assistance is not an issue but another smoke screen that you are using to district from your weak repetitious and venial arguments. It also show a disdain for low income students whose parents frantically search for ways to remove them from the academically failed public system in their areas. You see those students as the public school's property that private schools have no right to interfere with. Speaks volumes of your conscience and character.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 10:04:45 GMT -6
Nope. Wrong again.
Simple, if a private school gives tuition exemption or stipends a kids tution, for any reason, then, they play select. Just another example of the Apples and Oranges. As is, private schools get to select who gets the exemptions. If they didnt, well, everyone would get one that applied.............right?
Select enrollment vs Non select enrollment. Apples and Oranges. Impossible to deny. Keep it coming though Pope Knownothing............I love it!
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Post by gentsandpios on Apr 19, 2016 10:36:07 GMT -6
Nope. Wrong again. Simple, if a private school gives tuition exemption or stipends a kids tution, for any reason, then, they play select. Just another example of the Apples and Oranges. As is, private schools get to select who gets the exemptions. If they didnt, well, everyone would get one that applied.............right? Select enrollment vs Non select enrollment. Apples and Oranges. Impossible to deny. Keep it coming though Pope Knownothing............I love it! Don't care one way or another but have a question. Most of the catholic schools give one rate to kids that are members of a church parish that is a sponsor church for the school and another tuition rate that is higher to kids that don't belong to one of those church parishes. Would that qualify in your mind as tuition assistance for members of the church parish?
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Post by pinion on Apr 19, 2016 10:47:35 GMT -6
Simple rule. Easy to enforce. The scenarios you gentlemen throw up, would be rare if ever, and certainly could be ruled upon by an appeals committee. Public schools do not charge tuition, so an audit is uneccessary. Sounds to me like this idea hits a little to close to home for you? If a public school did charge tution for say a magnet situation or whatever, then they could be audited as well. No hypocrisy. Just cuts to the chase. Lets see, once and for all, who actively paying for kids tuitions, and who is not. I guess public schools fund themselves? No. They don't. That money comes from somewhere. Taxes. Perhaps you consider an audit of those monies as "unnecessary", but I don't. Public schools have a HUGE advantage with all the unquestioned money coming in. I pay for a kid to attend a private school and I pay for kids to attend public schools. My neighbors pay for kids to attend public schools, and they don't even have kids. Yet you still figure that somehow a private school has the advantage. That doesn't even make sense.
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 19, 2016 10:53:29 GMT -6
Nope. Wrong again. Simple, if a private school gives tuition exemption or stipends a kids tution, for any reason, then, they play select. Just another example of the Apples and Oranges. As is, private schools get to select who gets the exemptions. If they didnt, well, everyone would get one that applied.............right? Select enrollment vs Non select enrollment. Apples and Oranges. Impossible to deny. Keep it coming though Pope Knownothing............I love it! That is your opinion and not LHSAA bylaw. You are arguing a mute point. The select non select split had NOTHING to do with assistance because it no private school giving away tuition can sustain itself. It is the same inane argument that says we should raise the minimum wage to a livable wage. It is not sustainable and will result in hurting the people that it claims to help. You do not understand the process by which most private schools operate, or for that matter how business works. There has to be a certain amount of revenue to be viable and sustainable. If an organization, private school, restaurant or athletic organization cannot bring in an excess above break even cost, then it will fail. ONLY, in the government bureaucracy does the idea of endless bottomless money exist. And the state is suffering at the hands of this uncontrolled mentality and entitlement today. It is why public school principals make horrible private school principals and why most public school supporters have no understanding of the financial sacrifice most private school parents take on to educate their children. Not only do we get no benefit from out tax dollars to support the corrupt and failed public system, we pay to educate our children. Yes it is our choice, that choice has NOTHING to do in a decision of whether or not little Jimmiy is going to play football.
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Post by eag on Apr 19, 2016 10:53:31 GMT -6
Bob I know you keep saying any financial help to any student means that school is select. Does this also mean that if a student with a voucher from the state goes to ABC private school that this school is now select, even if this is the only financial help given? As far as the voucher system, a parent can send their child to any public school in the Parish as well, so does this mean that if a Public School accepts a voucher student that they are now select as well? So does this mean that parents who pay to send their child to private school, but still pay taxes for the local school system are now sponsoring/giving aid to students who attend the local Public School? If so that means that every school in the state are select. Nope, it means that any child who the private school or its boosters or church, give financial aid to attend their institution, is Select. Simple. Vouchers are random by law, supposedly. SimpleVouchers are not random. Students must meet certain requirements to be eligible for a voucher. By your definition, they are Select. A kid can indeed be turned down for a voucher.
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Post by btown on Apr 19, 2016 10:55:43 GMT -6
Simple rule. Easy to enforce. The scenarios you gentlemen throw up, would be rare if ever, and certainly could be ruled upon by an appeals committee. Public schools do not charge tuition, so an audit is uneccessary. Sounds to me like this idea hits a little to close to home for you? If a public school did charge tution for say a magnet situation or whatever, then they could be audited as well. No hypocrisy. Just cuts to the chase. Lets see, once and for all, who actively paying for kids tuitions, and who is not. I guess public schools fund themselves? No. They don't. That money comes from somewhere. Taxes. Perhaps you consider an audit of those monies as "unnecessary", but I don't. Public schools have a HUGE advantage with all the unquestioned money coming in. I pay for a kid to attend a private school and I pay for kids to attend public schools. My neighbors pay for kids to attend public schools, and they don't even have kids. Yet you still figure that somehow a private school has the advantage. That doesn't even make sense. Just so I am clear where you stand, you say that private schools have no advantages over a public school?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2016 10:59:40 GMT -6
You give the principals way more credit than I do. This split vote was lazy, spiteful, and short-sighted. They wanted to stick it to the privates. Not deal with he ones who are the issue, just all of them. There have been many examples given of small private schools that simply use athletics as the extracurricular high school experience enhancer it should be. Doesn't matter! We started the BS mantra of "denying enrollment" as an athletics benefit. These principals have placed the entire LHSAA in jeopardy of legislative intervention, a potential competitive high school association, and twisted the student athletes in the mist of it all. I would be SURPRISED if they come up with anything close to a solution. Someone will have to develop a real solution and present it to the principals before any change will occur. For what it is worth, I do not like this new proposal either. It really isn't better than the current split. You simply cannot have teams that are similar in size compete for district honors all season, and then group some of them in a different size to compete for post season. All the while keeping some in the same classification size. It is either compete regular season and post season, or neither. Then you are no different than the principals you talk about. It is either your way our the high way. We will never go back to the old system, so they need to take what we have and continue to improve on it. As long as they(principals) have to fight to keep what they have they will never be able to move forward. So, I will just have to disagree with you on that one. I am WAY different than the principals. I never voted to put my own organization at risk so that I could be called a champion. Please restrict your judgements to things which you actually know. If you make sweeping judgements as a matter of course, you will also one day do something similar as to put off what is good long term for very short term "reward". That is just good advice no matter the subject. Just so you are aware, there are principals at the private schools...
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Post by iknownuthing on Apr 19, 2016 11:03:02 GMT -6
I guess public schools fund themselves? No. They don't. That money comes from somewhere. Taxes. Perhaps you consider an audit of those monies as "unnecessary", but I don't. Public schools have a HUGE advantage with all the unquestioned money coming in. I pay for a kid to attend a private school and I pay for kids to attend public schools. My neighbors pay for kids to attend public schools, and they don't even have kids. Yet you still figure that somehow a private school has the advantage. That doesn't even make sense. Just so I am clear where you stand, you say that private schools have no advantages over a public school? No, there is an distinct advantage to going to private school, it is just not an athletic one. It is an academic and safety one. It is a religious one. The success that nearly all private schools have comes from that factor. Here is a question for you, why is it that in parishes where the public schools excel, the private schools do not? Take St. Tammany parish as an example, very few private schools and the football one is a boarding school. That does not come from recruiting athletes, it comes from recruiting academics. So locals in St. Tammany parish send their kids to public school, and they are very successful on the football field. If you want to stop the flow to private schools make your public school safe and academically successful first. That is the real advantage private school hold, academic success.
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Post by btown on Apr 19, 2016 11:06:28 GMT -6
Then you are no different than the principals you talk about. It is either your way our the high way. We will never go back to the old system, so they need to take what we have and continue to improve on it. As long as they(principals) have to fight to keep what they have they will never be able to move forward. So, I will just have to disagree with you on that one. I am WAY different than the principals. I never voted to put my own organization at risk so that I could be called a champion. Please restrict your judgements to things which you actually know. If you make sweeping judgements as a matter of course, you will also one day do something similar as to put off what is good long term for very short term "reward". That is just good advice no matter the subject. Just so you are aware, there are principals at the private schools... First of all I am very awere that there are principals at private schools because my father is a retired one and I have gotten great insight as to what goes own in some private schools that make it hard on everyone else. Second I can judge you by your comments, you talk bad about the principals just like bigbod talks bad about the privates, so I think I am right own.
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