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Post by LATigerFan on Nov 25, 2017 14:16:45 GMT -6
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Post by kbanes on Nov 25, 2017 14:21:14 GMT -6
No one said they weren't good. They get to go to the dome, and Evangel gets to go home. But the defense you are so high on gave up 155 yards in the first half, and I can't find it in writing anywhere but I was told Evangel had a little over 300 yards total. That is a lot of yards to only get in the red zone one time. Perhaps the 12 penalties for 97 yards had something to do with that. When you tack on an extra 10 to 20 yards to each drive it makes life a little tough. Add the yardage that those penalties took away from Evangel and they easily had another 100 yards of offense. Here is what great defense actually looks like. Catholic had 68 yards at halftime. The only time Catholic crossed midfield in the first half was due to a facemask penalty thrown from 30 yards down the field when no reff near the pile saw it. Catholic had 37 yards offense in the second half, for a total of 105 for the game. That is what actual defense looks like. Yet the guys who played by far the best defense and the guys who also played by far the best offense, will be cleaning our their lockers next week. Well, since there is no way that Catholic could have possibly beaten Evangel with out those dirty cheating refs that were not from the Baton Rouge area but were obviously looking to cheat EC out of their rightful championship, I accept that we allow your definition of winning to be most offense yards and fewest yards allowed. EC TO THE DOME!!!!! You must lead an interesting life. (And by interesting, I mean "sad") kbanes
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 25, 2017 14:51:56 GMT -6
What were the penalty stats for Catholic?
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 25, 2017 14:54:11 GMT -6
No one said they weren't good. They get to go to the dome, and Evangel gets to go home. But the defense you are so high on gave up 155 yards in the first half, and I can't find it in writing anywhere but I was told Evangel had a little over 300 yards total. That is a lot of yards to only get in the red zone one time. Perhaps the 12 penalties for 97 yards had something to do with that. When you tack on an extra 10 to 20 yards to each drive it makes life a little tough. Add the yardage that those penalties took away from Evangel and they easily had another 100 yards of offense. Here is what great defense actually looks like. Catholic had 68 yards at halftime. The only time Catholic crossed midfield in the first half was due to a facemask penalty thrown from 30 yards down the field when no reff near the pile saw it. Catholic had 37 yards offense in the second half, for a total of 105 for the game. That is what actual defense looks like. Yet the guys who played by far the best defense and the guys who also played by far the best offense, will be cleaning our their lockers next week. Well, since there is no way that Catholic could have possibly beaten Evangel with out those dirty cheating refs that were not from the Baton Rouge area but were obviously looking to cheat EC out of their rightful championship, I accept that we allow your definition of winning to be most offense yards and fewest yards allowed. EC TO THE DOME!!!!! You must lead an interesting life. (And by interesting, I mean "sad") kbanes OH OH!!!!!! you did it now. Get ready for a 35-Paragraph response with lots of red letters and a complaint to the admin about a personal attack 🤣
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Post by BGH on Nov 25, 2017 15:15:22 GMT -6
Well, since there is no way that Catholic could have possibly beaten Evangel with out those dirty cheating refs that were not from the Baton Rouge area but were obviously looking to cheat EC out of their rightful championship, I accept that we allow your definition of winning to be most offense yards and fewest yards allowed. EC TO THE DOME!!!!! You must lead an interesting life. (And by interesting, I mean "sad") kbanes OH OH!!!!!! you did it now. Get ready for a 35-Paragraph response with lots of red letters and a complaint to the admin about a personal attack 🤣 Kind of funny how this works. You keep telling lies, and I get banned. I'll bet that makes you feel big and important.
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Post by mt on Nov 25, 2017 15:20:54 GMT -6
Lighten up guys. It was a great defensive game.
Yes there were a lot of penalties, many legitimate.
Fact remains like Pinion said the offense had so urgency, the deep threat couldn’t get open. Catholic was much quicker than they expected it seems and Catholic outcoached them. A lot of ball control, they found something with the run with the qb and that third phase of special teams. The kicker took Washington big play return ability completely out of the game and that was gigantic.
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Post by mt on Nov 25, 2017 15:21:21 GMT -6
It’s a lot easier to got 40-50 after a Washington return than 70-80 after a touchback
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 25, 2017 15:21:44 GMT -6
OH OH!!!!!! you did it now. Get ready for a 35-Paragraph response with lots of red letters and a complaint to the admin about a personal attack 🤣 Kind of funny how this works. You keep telling lies, and I get banned. I'll bet that makes you feel big and important. You got banned? I didn't know Anything about that! You were the LSL #2 poster in 2016. Who would ban BGH?
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Post by BGH on Nov 25, 2017 15:26:42 GMT -6
No one said they weren't good. They get to go to the dome, and Evangel gets to go home. But the defense you are so high on gave up 155 yards in the first half, and I can't find it in writing anywhere but I was told Evangel had a little over 300 yards total. That is a lot of yards to only get in the red zone one time. Perhaps the 12 penalties for 97 yards had something to do with that. When you tack on an extra 10 to 20 yards to each drive it makes life a little tough. Add the yardage that those penalties took away from Evangel and they easily had another 100 yards of offense. Here is what great defense actually looks like. Catholic had 68 yards at halftime. The only time Catholic crossed midfield in the first half was due to a facemask penalty thrown from 30 yards down the field when no reff near the pile saw it. Catholic had 37 yards offense in the second half, for a total of 105 for the game. That is what actual defense looks like. Yet the guys who played by far the best defense and the guys who also played by far the best offense, will be cleaning our their lockers next week. Well, since there is no way that Catholic could have possibly beaten Evangel with out those dirty cheating refs that were not from the Baton Rouge area but were obviously looking to cheat EC out of their rightful championship, I accept that we allow your definition of winning to be most offense yards and fewest yards allowed. EC TO THE DOME!!!!! You must lead an interesting life. (And by interesting, I mean "sad") kbanes I never said anything like that. I simply made an observation that you were overstating the defensive ability of Catholic. As has already been pointed out on this board, Catholic won the always important special teams battle decisively. Two blocked kicks, when I can't recall Evangel having one all year. the other smart thing they did was milk every last second off of the clock on each possession. That is how Catholic won their trip to the dome, and they deserve it. If we are going to talk about things being interesting or "sad". I think it is interesting or "sad" that you have tried to put words in my mouth.
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Post by BGH on Nov 25, 2017 15:32:33 GMT -6
Kind of funny how this works. You keep telling lies, and I get banned. I'll bet that makes you feel big and important. You got banned? I didn't know Anything about that! You were the LSL #2 poster in 2016. Who would ban BGH? You know full well that I was banned for about a month. Either that, or you don't read the board. I had no intention of coming back (mostly because of you, but also TC Can't Hang), but someone emailed me and asked me to.
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 25, 2017 16:31:11 GMT -6
You got banned? I didn't know Anything about that! You were the LSL #2 poster in 2016. Who would ban BGH? You know full well that I was banned for about a month. Either that, or you don't read the board. I had no intention of coming back (mostly because of you, but also TC Can't Hang), but someone emailed me and asked me to. Didn't. Know you were banned I've been off the board for 5 months before I returned a month ago . Well, glad you decided to come back. But you aren't always the victim. You take your shot at people also.
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Post by thetruth14 on Nov 25, 2017 18:16:28 GMT -6
You know full well that I was banned for about a month. Either that, or you don't read the board. I had no intention of coming back (mostly because of you, but also TC Can't Hang), but someone emailed me and asked me to. Didn't. Know you were banned I've been off the board for 5 months before I returned a month ago . Well, glad you decided to come back. But you aren't always the victim. You take your shot at people also. you gotta have tough skin to talk with tc can’t hang or he will run you over
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Post by pinion on Nov 26, 2017 12:53:59 GMT -6
Humm. 19 replies to the original question, and not a single person has offered up the possibility that Catholic might be able to play a little defense. Catholic might be able to play a little defense. Football in the Baton Rouge Metro might be a little bit better than some people suppose. Scoring statistics might be a little deceiving when your out of division schedule is Parkview Baptist, Zachary, U-High, St. Thomas More, and Teurlings Catholic. Yes, there is a distinct possibility that Catholic is pretty good. Nah, that can't be it. kbanes I don't think anyone is suggesting that Catholic can't play defense. However, it's pretty obvious that Evangel is floundering on offense. When you have a team like Evangel sniping players from defense to play on offense and/or play both ways, there is a problem. And just to be completely real with it, ECA hasn't put much offense on the field for a few seasons. This season it just really got to where it cannot be ignored. This season, ECA put a punishing defense on the field and then there were some kids that played not-defense. Catholic is obviously a pretty good team or they wouldn't have even made to the game with ECA. They field a pretty good team every year and have for several years. If they're as good as you imply, they should run off against Curtis in the championship game. Because they beat ECA and ECA was picked to win it all. If Catholic beats Curtis for the DivI championship, I'll expect Catholic to play a 6A power from Texas next season so they can solidify their status. And really, I ain't even being a jerk about it. If Catholic wins DivI, they should schedule a Texas top 6A top 5 team for next season and make a statement with that game.
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Post by kbanes on Nov 26, 2017 17:27:05 GMT -6
Pinion, I have absolutely no idea how Catholic will fare against JC. I had idea how they would do against EC. I'm not really a fan at all.
It just seemed bizarre that EC could lose in the semifinals and nobody even consider that EC biggest problem that night was Catholic, not EC. Seems a little biased. And closed minded.
"they should run off against Curtis in the championship game. Because they beat ECA and ECA was picked to win it all."
Again, might the problem be that EC isn't as good as people thought? Thats what I've been hearing for 2 days now, since Catholic couldn't possibly be that good. Consistency, please.
"I'll expect Catholic to play a 6A power from Texas next season so they can solidify their status."
So, a Div I championship in 2015 and reaching the Finals in 2017 doesn't say anything for its status? Potentially 2 championships in 3 years wouldn't settle their status? I suspect that both Catholic and most people in the Baton Rouge Metro area couldn't give a flying fig about a 6A team from Texas. If that is what some in North Louisiana thinks that "status" is derived from, that I can understand why they are butt hurt. I suspect that Catholic will be just fine with another Div I Championship.
But, whatever.
kbanes
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 26, 2017 20:17:50 GMT -6
I'm a huge fan of ECA. I admire the program and the work ethic ,but I think some of the fans can be perceived as arrogant and cocky. All I heard this year was stuff like, I watched Curtis play Parkview, and I watched Curtis play Easton, and Rummel and they aren't that good this year. They are weak. They spent time here thrashing Curtis' offense and defense and pointing out every issue they could find to discredit them . All the while they were dissecting Curtis and pointing out every issue, they failed to do the same to ECA. After the Rummel game, I made a comment that the coach better work on the offense before next week and the responses from the ECA fans were, "We will be fine" (typical fan denial) Well, 6 points scored sent them home the next week. Well,You can blame the refs all you want to but there is no excuse for only scoring 6 points. I bought into the hype too, and picked ECA to win it all, but after the Rummel game, the weak offense (against a good defensive plan) was exposed. Maybe Kbanes is right. Maybe you guys weren't as good as you thought you were and beating up on weak teams with weak defenses gave you all a false sense of security on offense.
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Post by kbanes on Nov 26, 2017 21:33:15 GMT -6
Just to clear something up. I was not saying that EC wasn't as good as their fans thought. I have no idea how good or bad they are because I haven't seen them play, and probably wouldn't know if I saw them 6 times. I just found it strange that NO ONE considered the possibility that Catholic was pretty good, possibly as good as EC, considering that that they have beaten EC the last 2 times that they have played (2015 for the Championship, and this year in the Semis). Thats with a coaching change in between.
I think that the real problem is that people form opinions when they don't really have sufficient data. Because there are no common opponents, assuming that EC is automatically better than Catholic (or that Catholic is automatically better that EC) is pure folly. The only even remotely significant data is that Catholic beat EC 2 years ago. And that data is so old as to be statistically useless.
Most of the opinions rendered on this board are based on fandom, not data.
Case in point, if you think that you know how is going to win in the De La Salle v U High game, you are fooling yourself. There is NO supporting data for either team. If you declare that you know who is going to win, and that team wins? Congrats. You made a lucky guess with 50-50 odds.
For what its worth, I think that its possible that EC just had a bad night, and they might win 7 of 10 times these guys play. But they might lose 7-10, too.
kbanes
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Post by mt on Nov 26, 2017 21:35:00 GMT -6
Just to clear something up. I was not saying that EC wasn't as good as their fans thought. I have no idea how good or bad they are because I haven't seen them play, and probably wouldn't know if I saw them 6 times. I just found it strange that NO ONE considered the possibility that Catholic was pretty good, possibly as good as EC, considering that that they have beaten EC the last 2 times that they have played (2015 for the Championship, and this year in the Semis). Thats with a coaching change in between. I think that the real problem is that people form opinions when they don't really have sufficient data. Because there are no common opponents, assuming that EC is automatically better than Catholic (or that Catholic is automatically better that EC) is pure folly. The only even remotely significant data is that Catholic beat EC 2 years ago. And that data is so old as to be statistically useless. Most of the opinions rendered on this board are based on fandom, not data. Case in point, if you think that you know how is going to win in the De La Salle v U High game, you are fooling yourself. There is NO supporting data for either team. If you declare that you know who is going to win, and that team wins? Congrats. You made a lucky guess with 50-50 odds. For what its worth, I think that its possible that EC just had a bad night, and they might win 7 of 10 times these guys play. But they might lose 7-10, too. kbanes Kbanes you just told me to “take that for data” 😂 kidding kidding. I understand where you’re coming from.
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Post by BGH on Nov 27, 2017 18:27:06 GMT -6
It just seemed bizarre that EC could lose in the semifinals and nobody even consider that EC biggest problem that night was Catholic, not EC. Seems a little biased. And closed minded. Again, might the problem be that EC isn't as good as people thought? Thats what I've been hearing for 2 days now, since Catholic couldn't possibly be that good. Consistency, please. Were you at the game? I was at the game Friday night, and I still think Evangel is a far better team than Catholic. From what I heard the Catholic coach say, it sounded like he felt the same way. He was very proud on his team for executing the game plan and keeping it close to the end. They ran every second off the clock they could on each possession and hoped they would have a chance to win at the end. Even though their offense did NOTHING, they were able to keep the game close, and more importantly they WON. Unlike you, he did not imply that Evangel was not a good team, in fact he did just the opposite. I also saw the game in 2015 and it was a game that Evangel should not have lost either. In 2015 I was leaving the stadium to beat the traffic with just under a minute and a half left to play, because Evangel just took over the ball on downs and there was NO WAY Evangel could lose, yet they did lose. By the way, that was a much better Catholic team in 2015 than the one I saw this past Friday. It is heartbreaking to see this happen twice within three years, to the same opponent. Though it may sound like "sour gs" I am convinced Evangel was the best team both times. I am also convinced that Evangel was out-coached both times. None of that matters, because Catholic has the 2015 Trophy, and will be playing for the 2017 Trophy. Evangel will be sitting at home.
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Post by BGH on Nov 27, 2017 18:43:48 GMT -6
Humm. 19 replies to the original question, and not a single person has offered up the possibility that Catholic might be able to play a little defense. I don't think anyone is suggesting that Catholic can't play defense. However, it's pretty obvious that Evangel is floundering on offense. When you have a team like Evangel sniping players from defense to play on offense and/or play both ways, there is a problem. And just to be completely real with it, ECA hasn't put much offense on the field for a few seasons. This season it just really got to where it cannot be ignored. This season, ECA put a punishing defense on the field and then there were some kids that played not-defense. Pinion, hortdaddy came and sat with me at the game Friday night. It was the first time he had been to an Evangel game in a couple of years. He kept saying, what in the world are they doing as Evangel kept trying to run the ball up the middle. I told him welcome to our world for the last couple of years. He was as amazed as me that Evangel was not trying to throw the ball while Catholic had 8 in the box. He said the same thing I have been thinking the last three years; this is not Evangel football. I think Evangel has the talent to be a very good spread team again. But I also think their current coaching staff has no inclination to use those skills. You can't just turn it on and off like a faucet, you have to use. I have heard rumors since the beginning of the year that there may be a coaching shake-up for next year, and I hope that is so. As good as Curtis and West Monroe have been the last 20 plus years, I have often said I would rather watch them stripe the field, than watch either one of those teams on offense. I am almost starting the feel the same about Evangel.
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Post by pinion on Nov 27, 2017 20:42:00 GMT -6
Pinion, I have absolutely no idea how Catholic will fare against JC. I had idea how they would do against EC. I'm not really a fan at all. It just seemed bizarre that EC could lose in the semifinals and nobody even consider that EC biggest problem that night was Catholic, not EC. Seems a little biased. And closed minded. "they should run off against Curtis in the championship game. Because they beat ECA and ECA was picked to win it all." Again, might the problem be that EC isn't as good as people thought? Thats what I've been hearing for 2 days now, since Catholic couldn't possibly be that good. Consistency, please. "I'll expect Catholic to play a 6A power from Texas next season so they can solidify their status." So, a Div I championship in 2015 and reaching the Finals in 2017 doesn't say anything for its status? Potentially 2 championships in 3 years wouldn't settle their status? I suspect that both Catholic and most people in the Baton Rouge Metro area couldn't give a flying fig about a 6A team from Texas. If that is what some in North Louisiana thinks that "status" is derived from, that I can understand why they are butt hurt. I suspect that Catholic will be just fine with another Div I Championship. But, whatever. kbanes You seem awfully butthurt to not be a fan. Or maybe it's just that you are a fan of whomever ECA is playing. Either is fine by me, really. I think ECA is better than anybody in the state on offense. Unfortunately for them, you have to have offense and defense. The biggest problem for ECA wasn't Catholic, it was their own piss poor excuse for an offense. If catholic is okay with getting 2nd place on the season, so be it. If a team wants to be an elite team, winning a Louisiana championship here and there ain't gonna do it. If Catholics aspirations are only to win the occasional championship, then they should be tickled with that. I don't doubt you have little concern for 6A Texas teams because most of Louisiana doesn't have the nuts to line up against one of them. Rather than play a real team, they'd rather play a team 2 classes lower. If that's what those teams want, more power to them.
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Post by kbanes on Nov 27, 2017 21:28:47 GMT -6
Pinion, I went to Vicksburg (MS) High School, and my kids went to Scotlandville before Scotlandville restarted football. I've been to a game every weekend this season, (Ive been to a game every weekend for the past 10 years) but only 2 of them involved Catholic. So, I have no special love for Catholic. There are probably 5 teams in Baton Rouge Metro that I see more than Catholic.
I really don't have any thoughts on EC. Only seen them play once. As I said, I had no idea how that game would turn. I guess you could say that my problem was with EC fans.
But I get your point now. You might be able to beat EC, but you aren't a real team until you beat a Texas 6A team. I hope you get the irony there. EC can't beat a team that theoretically can't beat a Texas 6A team. You just lowered EC ANOTHER notch.
And I hope that you will continue your thought process by claiming that all LHSAA state champions in the last few years are actually inferior to North Louisiana teams if they didn't play a Texas team. Rummel, Landry-Walker, Zachary, Acadiana, Jesuit, you are all just fake champions that don't deserve your titles.
Again, come up with any excuse you want to diminish Catholic. 2 EC losses to them in the last three years is probably good enough to take EC off of Catholic's "worry list".
Parting shot: EC couldn't beat U-High.
kbanes
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Post by indy on Nov 27, 2017 21:34:37 GMT -6
They probably couldn’t beat DeLaSalle or John Curtis either. Just saying
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Post by fuzzy on Nov 27, 2017 21:50:21 GMT -6
Pinion, I have absolutely no idea how Catholic will fare against JC. I had idea how they would do against EC. I'm not really a fan at all. It just seemed bizarre that EC could lose in the semifinals and nobody even consider that EC biggest problem that night was Catholic, not EC. Seems a little biased. And closed minded. "they should run off against Curtis in the championship game. Because they beat ECA and ECA was picked to win it all." Again, might the problem be that EC isn't as good as people thought? Thats what I've been hearing for 2 days now, since Catholic couldn't possibly be that good. Consistency, please. "I'll expect Catholic to play a 6A power from Texas next season so they can solidify their status." So, a Div I championship in 2015 and reaching the Finals in 2017 doesn't say anything for its status? Potentially 2 championships in 3 years wouldn't settle their status? I suspect that both Catholic and most people in the Baton Rouge Metro area couldn't give a flying fig about a 6A team from Texas. If that is what some in North Louisiana thinks that "status" is derived from, that I can understand why they are butt hurt. I suspect that Catholic will be just fine with another Div I Championship. But, whatever. kbanes You seem awfully butthurt to not be a fan. Or maybe it's just that you are a fan of whomever ECA is playing. Either is fine by me, really. I think ECA is better than anybody in the state on offense. Unfortunately for them, you have to have offense and defense. The biggest problem for ECA wasn't Catholic, it was their own piss poor excuse for an offense. If catholic is okay with getting 2nd place on the season, so be it. If a team wants to be an elite team, winning a Louisiana championship here and there ain't gonna do it. If Catholics aspirations are only to win the occasional championship, then they should be tickled with that. I don't doubt you have little concern for 6A Texas teams because most of Louisiana doesn't have the nuts to line up against one of them. Rather than play a real team, they'd rather play a team 2 classes lower. If that's what those teams want, more power to them. You lost me at ECA has the best offense in the state. They don't even have the best offense in the city.
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Post by kbanes on Nov 27, 2017 23:34:12 GMT -6
Pinion,
I started to feel bad about doubting your theory that the only way to make your bones was to play a Texas 6A team. I decided to check on the EC past performance to gauge their success in these titanic struggles against the best of Texas.
Using the LHSAA web site list of Schedules and results (available from 2009-2010 to the present), I found out the following:
Since 2009, EC has not played a Texas 6A team. This may be misleading, as Texas 6A did not exist until 2014. (Let that sink in for a minute. EC has never played a Texas 6A team.)
Since 2009 EC has played 3 Texas 5A teams. They have lost to Allen Texas twice, by a combined score of 73-17. In 2012, they beat 5A Texas High 54-7. Texas High finished 3-7 that year.
Their only other wins against out of state competiton is a 62-0 win over 2A Idabel Ok (7-5), in 2015 and a 30-6 win over 3A Jefferson County Ms.(4-7) in 2009. The three wins are to teams with a combined 14-17 record.
They have lost to:
1A Shiloh Christion, Ak 5A Union Ok, twice 4A Lafayette Ms. 5A St. Josephs PA
So, in the last 9 years, EC has beaten 1 5A Texas team that could't do better than 3-7, 1 2A Oklahoma team, and 1 3A Mississippi team. 7 losses. Is that is the North Louisiana requirement to be considered "elite"?
Maybe you need to find a different method to demean Catholic. And please put some thought into it this time.
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Post by jgjetson on Nov 27, 2017 23:51:35 GMT -6
Yeah, it's just crazy really. they pulled a few guys that have always played defense and started playing them a lot on offense. And then they suffer on defense because of it. they still have a solid defense. but suck on offense. Evangel hasn't played with much urgency in several seasons. It's like they just hit the field and figure "we win or we dont" and completely rely on a strong defense. that's carried them a bit. Until they screwed with the defense enough to where they aren't as solid as they should be. Now i do agree there. I saw the dominant Evangel teams and if they got a lead they went for the kill. This years and last years teams seem to get a lead and say “hey defense we did our job” MT they haven't had offense all season LAB played them in Fall scrimmage right before allegations came down at evangel and they won 14-8 and one score was because the do rqn the ball down to the 7 yard line other than that they couldn't move the ball it was shocking because we were so use to evangel being high powered offense
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Post by mt on Nov 27, 2017 23:53:39 GMT -6
Now i do agree there. I saw the dominant Evangel teams and if they got a lead they went for the kill. This years and last years teams seem to get a lead and say “hey defense we did our job” MT they haven't had offense all season LAB played them in Fall scrimmage right before allegations came down at evangel and they won 14-8 and one score was because the do rqn the ball down to the 7 yard line other than that they couldn't move the ball it was shocking because we were so use to evangel being high powered offense Oh i know i as at the spring game vs Landry Walker the Final was 6-0. But as the topic is, the offense simply isn’t good. They try to power run then go deep and it’s just not there for whatever reason
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Post by jgjetson on Nov 27, 2017 23:57:56 GMT -6
MT they haven't had offense all season LAB played them in Fall scrimmage right before allegations came down at evangel and they won 14-8 and one score was because the do rqn the ball down to the 7 yard line other than that they couldn't move the ball it was shocking because we were so use to evangel being high powered offense Oh i know i as at the spring game vs Landry Walker the Final was 6-0. But as the topic is, the offense simply isn’t good. They try to power run then go deep and it’s just not there for whatever reason No identity! QB had nice arm too ! Online was suspect but our dline is pretty good but they didn't impress and I watched a Catholic high team that never should have St Aug ! If St Augs QB just throws the ball away instead of trying to juke ppl and losing 10 yards they win because Catholic offense couldn't do a thing with St Aug D
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Post by mt on Nov 28, 2017 0:04:34 GMT -6
Oh i know i as at the spring game vs Landry Walker the Final was 6-0. But as the topic is, the offense simply isn’t good. They try to power run then go deep and it’s just not there for whatever reason No identity! QB had nice arm too ! Online was suspect but our dline is pretty good but they didn't impress and I watched a Catholic high team that never should have St Aug ! If St Augs QB just throws the ball away instead of trying to juke ppl and losing 10 yards they win because Catholic offense couldn't do a thing with St Aug D Another fact!!
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Post by BGH on Nov 28, 2017 10:03:11 GMT -6
Pinion, I started to feel bad about doubting your theory that the only way to make your bones was to play a Texas 6A team. I decided to check on the EC past performance to gauge their success in these titanic struggles against the best of Texas. Using the LHSAA web site list of Schedules and results (available from 2009-2010 to the present), I found out the following: Since 2009, EC has not played a Texas 6A team. This may be misleading, as Texas 6A did not exist until 2014. (Let that sink in for a minute. EC has never played a Texas 6A team.) Since 2009 EC has played 3 Texas 5A teams. They have lost to Allen Texas twice, by a combined score of 73-17. In 2012, they beat 5A Texas High 54-7. Texas High finished 3-7 that year. Their only other wins against out of state competiton is a 62-0 win over 2A Idabel Ok (7-5), in 2015 and a 30-6 win over 3A Jefferson County Ms.(4-7) in 2009. The three wins are to teams with a combined 14-17 record. They have lost to: 1A Shiloh Christion, Ak 5A Union Ok, twice 4A Lafayette Ms. 5A St. Josephs PA So, in the last 9 years, EC has beaten 1 5A Texas team that could't do better than 3-7, 1 2A Oklahoma team, and 1 3A Mississippi team. 7 losses. Is that is the North Louisiana requirement to be considered "elite"? Maybe you need to find a different method to demean Catholic. And please put some thought into it this time. I am not Pinion but I would like to respond to a few things you have put out. But first let me correct a few of your errors. Allen Texas is a 6A football school with over 5 thousand students. The LHSAA tries to fit schools into what class they would be in Louisiana, not what class they are in their own state. Allen is the defending 6A State Champs, and they are currently ranked #1 in Texas and still in the playoffs. You also seem to have left out 7A Defending Illinois State Champ East St that Evangel beat earlier this years. They were undefeated (except to Evangel) and ranked #1 until they lost in the quarterfinals last week. You only went back to 2009 but Evangel has a much longer history of playing out-of-state teams than that, but i will stick to your numbers. You pointed out the records of three out-of-state teams that Evangel has beaten, but you fail to realize that those teams were coming off State Championship runs which is why Evangel scheduled them in the first place. The games were not scheduled for easy wins. You also point out that Evangel lost 5 games to 4 different teams you listed, but you failed to give us the records of those teams. Each one of those teams were Nationally ranked when Evangel played them. That little 1A Shiloh Christian was actually playing in a higher Arkansas classification and was built by Gus Malzahn who is now at Auburn. Regardless, Evangel has not performed well against those type teams since 2009. I would even go back 2004 and say Evangel has taken their lumps against out of state teams. But what is funny, is that even though you are making light of Evangel's schedule ......... they won 3 State Championships and were runner-up once since 2009, and 6 State Championships with 2 runner-ups since 2004. So when you are demeaning Evangel, what does that say about the state of Louisiana High School Football in general? Since you have chosen to turn this into a North/South "thing", I will add fuel to that fire. I have long seen south Louisiana fans brag about how great football is here, especially in South Louisiana, yet they NEVER go test themselves against good out-of-state teams. There are a few exceptions but it is rare. So while you are busy running down Evangel, please give us Catholics stats against outside competition. Go ahead and give us Catholics signature win or wins in the last 20 years.
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Post by Southplaq on Nov 28, 2017 10:23:45 GMT -6
They probably couldn’t beat DeLaSalle or John Curtis either. Just saying Oh oh. Stuff just got real!!!
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